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Unread 9th September 2012, 01:08 AM   #151
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Without a doubt I'd have to vote for WillR's Mobile templates. I used them to make over $6,000 selling mobile sites and suites last month alone.

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easiest solution (what I did to my websites):
- apply a responsive template
- were you expecting more steps? Sorry to disappoint.
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Responsive sucks and is the lazy way.

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easiest solution (what I did to my websites):
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YES! This is a very simple but powerful method. Combined with jQuery you can have a very interactive site.

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That's the problem. People are trying to make mobile equivalents of their main site with all the bells and whistles and weight and code of the main site. A mobile site is not supposed to be a smaller equal to the main site. It's for a very specific purpose and that's usually to get a small amount of information to the mobile user. Location, a click to call, some services and maybe an email form. It's supposed to be very lightweight, load fast and perform a single simple task. That's why (in my opinion) the bloated code filled all bells and whistles "responsive" solution is not the best, most suitable solution if you care for your client and the needs of their mobile visitors. It might be a little bit harder to build a suitable mobile lightweight companion site but it's usually what's required and usually what's best as well.

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Yes, a responsive theme doesn't solve some of the problems a standalone mobile website does. They usually are very heavy in code and aren't optimized for loading times on mobile devices. They also usually show the exact same information to both desktop users and mobile users, just layed out in a different manner. Mobile and desktop users are two very different types of people and should be treated as such. The information on a mobile site should be condensed and prioritized for mobile users. Things like opening hours, directions, menus, etc are what a mobile user is looking for. It's not always going to be the same for a desktop user. Desktop users are generally browsing -- mobile users are generally after a specific piece of information and want it as fast as possible.

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This is the same problem that was found when print companies tried to build websites the same way as glossy brochures - different medium requires a different and separate approach.

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Everyone has different ideas on responsive design. It does not have to be bulky or slow to load. Use it for light weight sites from time to time with great results. Have some customers who swear by it. Have some new customers come my way because other designers try to talk them out of using and they want it, so send them my way

I use SimpleGrid as a base.

I say each for there own. But the bulk of my mobile business is based on mobile jquery. If you stay way from 99% of the guru's bulky templates and learn basic jQuery and DW 5.5+, you will be a lot better off.

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I've tried a bunch, and my ABSOLUTE favorite is My Mobile Business.

The sites are absolutely stunning (there are some crappy looking mobile sites out there), the training is excellent (will make you wish you had a cool Australian accent) and while it seems WP mobile sites are they way to go... they are bloated with scripts and take long to load- a killer to a mobile site.

Will Williams developed these to be extremely light (all php), yet very easy to edit (no programming experience needed, but you will be editing php files. But he makes it easy).

These are sites I've cranked out mobiles sites for in less than 30 minutes

Tampa Marketing & Media Consulting | Done Right Marketing & Media
Eighty-Four, PA Pizza Shop - Danny Jrs Pizza
Brandon FL Preschool – Village Early Learning Center | Brandon's Premier Preschool

(view on a mobile phone, obviously)

I'm not associated with this product, I just really love it- after much frustration with finding a mobile site system.
Great looking sites...they have a very clean look with great functionality.

I did a search on google for "My Mobile Business" and nothing came up, what's the url?
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...I did a search on google for "My Mobile Business" and nothing came up, what's the url?
Look three posts above yours and click on Will's signature link.

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I think the best mobile website builder is one that allows you to
  • Create commercial grade dedicated jQuery Mobile HTML 5 mobile web sites.
  • Creates way more than a typical brochure site - with actual functionality.
  • Does not require that you learn how to program, fill out php templates, be a technical wiz or a graphic designer (tough one, I know).
  • Does not force you to host a site on an expensive server with monthly fees.
  • Once-off cost for the builder, that I can use over and over for multiple domains and clients.
  • Easy to update the website at a client's request.
  • Allow me to focus on the business of selling and marketing mobile websites, rather than the business of making them.

I haven't spotted one yet that does all the above - but when I do I'll let you know

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There are many types of mobile website builder & i share some website for mobile builder :

1. Wapple

2. Mobify Studio

3. Wirenode

4. Mobi10

5. bMobilized

6. Mofuse

7. MobilePress

8. Mobile Plugin

9. Mobile Joomla

10. Magento Mobile

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I like dudamobile for a couple reasons:

1. very easy to update/customize
2. has very useful features like click to call or click for directions etc.
3. no programming knowledge needed what so ever

The only downside is that there is a monthly fee, if you signup as a reseller its only $6/month which I pass on to my clients.

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I bought some WSOs and I just love everything I learned and they are really good choices, Will products is an example.

But I must say goMobi is a very good and simple option trough OpenSRS

I pay $2.50 for each active site and I have a WYSIWYG interface with drag and drop concept.

Just a few clicks and site done with cery cool features.
They will release a new version that will be more awesome.

Using goMobi with other hosting company, it's more expensive $5+ , I really advise OpenSRS.

You can also offer a free 30 day trial to your clients, since you have it in all your new created websites using opensrs.

Just my 2 cents =)
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Can you advise what is the best mobile website builder that is cost effective?
Mobile Marketing XT seems pretty good.
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I think it's important to not only consider the design, but also the functionality of the mobile site being built - especially the redirect script. I've seen lots of scripts that will automatically redirect a mobile user to the mobile site from the standard site they arrive on, but I haven't found a good script that will allow the user to go back to the standard site if they prefer.

If you just include a link to the standard site, most scripts will just keep redirecting theme back to the mobile even if they want to stay on the standard site. Maybe a good option would be to have a popup of some type that gives them the option in the first place to go to mobile website (without redirect script).

I'm not trying to get off topic, I just think these things are good things to consider when evaluating a mobile website builder, or if you are doing the work yourself, or outsourcing it. I'd be interesting in knowing if anyone has any ideas about a good mobile website builder that has these type of features, or maybe some good resources for the scripts as mentioned.
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I think it's important to not only consider the design, but also the functionality of the mobile site being built - especially the redirect script. I've seen lots of scripts that will automatically redirect a mobile user to the mobile site from the standard site they arrive on, but I haven't found a good script that will allow the user to go back to the standard site if they prefer.

If you just include a link to the standard site, most scripts will just keep redirecting theme back to the mobile even if they want to stay on the standard site. Maybe a good option would be to have a popup of some type that gives them the option in the first place to go to mobile website (without redirect script).

I'm not trying to get off topic, I just think these things are good things to consider when evaluating a mobile website builder, or if you are doing the work yourself, or outsourcing it. I'd be interesting in knowing if anyone has any ideas about a good mobile website builder that has these type of features, or maybe some good resources for the scripts as mentioned.
Any decent redirect script will NOT send them back to the mobile site if they go to the standard site. I use a redirect script that allows for that and there are plenty of them available out there. Just do a bit of searching.

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Any decent redirect script will NOT send them back to the mobile site if they go to the mobile site.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your statement. Please explain if you get a chance.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your statement. Please explain if you get a chance.
I made a mistake. All I was saying was that any half decent redirect script nowadays should NOT send people in a loop when they attempt to go back to the standard website.

Here's a Wordpress one you can download for free:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...y-v1-free.html

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WillR - OK thanks. Yes, a lot of the ones I've seen, and some of the big ones, just do the redirect one way and don't allow the option to go back. I've also seen this in a lot of mobile website templates. Thanks for the wordpress suggestion - I'd also love to know of a good script, maybe something up to date, that has this type of functionality, a script that can be used on standard websites (enter code into each page, etc).
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I got an ad from NetObjects yesterday and they were giving 30 day trials of their mobile site builder Mosiac. I tried it and it looks pretty cool. Anybody have any thoughts/experiences with this. Here's my site I made in about 10 minutes. 518 Cafe - Home Page

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Modesty prevents Will from mentioning that his own Script (when you buy his "My Mobile Business" WSO) does exactly what you're asking. It includes a link from the mobile website back to the full size website and it knows that you came from the mobile website so it will not send you back there in an endless loop if you follow his instructions.

Click on the banner in WillR's signature to buy his business and you'll be all set to not only have that scrip but a fantastic Business In A Box as well.

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fiverr is a great place for doing this, cheap & quality services there...
Cheap - maybe.
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I think the best mobile website builder is one that allows you to
  • Create commercial grade dedicated jQuery Mobile HTML 5 mobile web sites.
  • Creates way more than a typical brochure site - with actual functionality.
  • Does not require that you learn how to program, fill out php templates, be a technical wiz or a graphic designer (tough one, I know).
  • Does not force you to host a site on an expensive server with monthly fees.
  • Once-off cost for the builder, that I can use over and over for multiple domains and clients.
  • Easy to update the website at a client's request.
  • Allow me to focus on the business of selling and marketing mobile websites, rather than the business of making them.

I haven't spotted one yet that does all the above - but when I do I'll let you know
John, this is a great list, and I totally agree.

I would probably add that a comprehensive set of features, including the ability to support mobile commerce, is also important to that "perfect" solution.

EzMobileSiteGenerator comes pretty close to what you're looking for, though it is not perfect, and I have a few tweaks that I implement before I deliver to the client. I will say this, though. ezMSG has improved a great deal with added features since I bought it last December, and it's my platform of choice for starter mobile sites.

I designed a new set of templates with color combinations that I think are pleasing, and I can crank out a basic site in 15 minutes, using the client submitted data via an online form.

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I have been using Mobile Marketing XT and I really do like it. But,, It's expensive. Almost $400. It's the simple drag and drop. The only thing I don't like is that they don't let you host elsewhere. But, they do offer a lot of stuff to go with it. They have a video that shows all about it.

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p.s. I have WillR's and Neil's as well. I have a variety and am still looking for anything new and more advanced and easier. I pretty much am looking for one that comes with a secretary to take my dictation and build the site for me. Please,, if you know where I can find this,, pretty please,, let me know.

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dudamobile works for me
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Management-Ware Webelement is the best mobile Website builder.

you can create a professional mobile website on less than 2 hours without writing a single html code line.

The software cost less than 200$. You can create unlimited mobile Websites and there is no monthly fee. The license is for life.
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Management-Ware Webelement is the best mobile Website builder.

you can create a professional mobile website on less than 2 hours without writing a single html code line.

The software cost less than 200$. You can create unlimited mobile Websites and there is no monthly fee. The license is for life.
Webelement looks interesting and they have a 50% off deal on at the moment but there don't appear to be any examples of sites created with it. Do you know of any? (The discount is only until 1 Oct.)
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Lots of great self-hosted options being shared here - Wordpress themes, the two WSOs, jQuery mobile and responsive design templates.

For the hosted equivalent you should checkout Googles "hot to go mo" resource, which has all of the best links.

I can't link directly (post count) but if you search howtogomo and then click "Build Your Site" you should see them all.

Duada has been mentioned a few times already, but there are a few other good ones in there.
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So Far I do not know of any poduct which does not have some limitaion or the other, pointed out - either by users or competitors.

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I haven't looked around too much, but I use DudaMobile. It works just fine. Clients are happy, I don't have to do a ton of work.

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I've built for churches using MobilizeMy.com, it's easy to use.
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I found a professional software: Product Overview - NetObjects Fusion XII

https://netobjects.mobi/

Not tried yet.
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I have been using a service that allows you to roll your own theme over at ThemeRoller | jQuery Mobile and import it. End up with some pretty cool looking sites after you get use to it.

You get 30 days free to try it all out The Fastest Mobile Prototyping - Codiqa

There is not an affiliate program and I am not trying to get anything out of this other than a thanks from Max - whom is a great fellow! (Ben too) so please tell him Terry sent you

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Without any dough I suggest something that is using JqueryMobile Framework for maximum compatibility.

If you can find yourself a software that is based on JqueryMobile test it and see if it's doing what you want. Be careful before you choose a framework because the mobile market is really segmented.

You need something that will work on all mobile devices without having to do all the tests yourself…Who get access to all mobile devices? ;-)

Management-Ware Webelement an easy to use Mobile website builder software. A good Mobile website design software
Google Maps Contact Extractor, a google maps extractor
Contact List Builder an easy to use Yellow pages scraper software
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jQuery Mobile is even fun to play with.

I have shopped on ebay, craigs list and backpage for phones. Picked up iPhone 3 with cracked screen, couple of Android and one blackberry. Least I can get an idea of how designs look like. Little smart shopping and little time, got a whole $120 invested.

I just use the phones on WiFi to test my new ideas.

The over all best route is to own WillR's PHP version of mobile site builder and learn jQuery. Between the two you can build what is needed.

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If you are based on ecommerce portal or website, then you can try with Mobile eCommerce App|mcommerce App|Mobile commerce App for free. They are converting your ecommerce website to mobile commerce app at absolutely free of cost and also generating mobile websites in Just 2 to 3 working days.

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This looks like a mobile app service rather than mobile website...
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I would recommend Wapple and Mobify Studio... Wapple is a user friendly..try it
I have also used Wapple and it really works good for developing mobile websites.
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Management-Ware Webelement that was mentioned at #179 has potential, (although I believe the poster was a Troll - 6 posts, 3 of which recommend Management-Ware products). I say potential because although it is on sale I don't believe it should be yet. It's desktop software (the trial version crashed my PC so I had to use it on a laptop) but appears to tick most of the boxes and (when working) is fairly functional.

Why do I think it shouldn't be on sale yet? Well, apparently they release bug fix updates every 2 weeks (which sounds like a beta to me), there is no documentation and some of the internal help instructions don't make sense. Apart from that the support staff are rude, don't speak great English and don't respond when you challenge what they say.

Worth keeping an eye on as if they ever get it to a commercial standard.

Terry, you're obviously an expert on mobile website builders. If you get a chance to try this out I'd be interested in your opinion...
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Worth checking out this new WSO - Mobile Website Builder Software [IMS Commerce] - No Coding,Quality jQuery,Rapid Sites,Download Now!

jQuery Mobile & HTML5 with commerce and digital delivery.
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Unread 9th October 2012, 04:14 AM   #193
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Unread 9th October 2012, 04:18 AM   #194
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LOL. Ok, I did not mean to holler.

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Actually Winsto, KCNL's statement about the developer being non-responsive was retracted after my post (which was accidentally deleted - see #37) stating that the plugin was JUST updated. KCNL made that statement a day or so before a major update of the EZMSG plugin was released to show a VERY responsive developer.

Here we are again, on the cusp of version 3.0 of the plugin being released (with an HTML export feature so that sites built with plugin can standalone from Wordpress) and there is a need to debunk further myths about the plugin or the commitment of the developer.

Irene, the developer of the plugin, actually uses EZMSG herself in her own offline business to service mobile clients. As a result there is an apparent commitment to make sure that the plugin works well and that new features are added. Furthermore, there is a thriving community on her thread, now 24 pages long, proving that several hundred if not thousands are having success with the plugin.

If you had problems getting the plugin to work you should have submitted a ticket to Irene (she would have helped) or you should have posted to her thread where other users have been more than willing to answer questions. If your questions could not be answered and you couldn't get the plugin to work she does provide a 100% Money Back Guarantee (as seen on page 1 of her thread).

Bottom line there is a guarantee, help is available, and the plugin absolutely does work.

It is because of the Developer's support and commitment to the plugin that I believe EZ Mobile Site Generator is one of the best mobile website builders available - and it keeps getting better.
I couldn't agree with you more Legacy3. Been using ezmobilesitegenerator and very happy with it.

I get great result and so easy to use, its like fill in the blanks and you're done.

Regarding "non-responsive" developer, I sent an email to the support and Irene came back to me in no time at all and solved the issue. Irene is very supportive and she knows how to look after her customers.

I just received an email from her that she will be going to the hospital for about 3 - 4 days and she promised that as soon as she comes out of the hospital, she'll get back to us again and release the new update. Actually she even released another update as somehow some users are having trouble when exporting, so she fixed that issue first before even going to the hospital. Is that what you call a "non responsive" developer:confused: I don't think so.

Anyway that's my two bobs, And NO, I'm not Irene's affiliate, just one happy camper.

Cheers.
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I use brickandmobile.
The sites look pretty cool and they are very customizable.

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Without a doubt I'd have to vote for WillR's Mobile templates. I used them to make over $6,000 selling mobile sites and suites last month alone.
I second that WillR is the best
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I've used WillR & Quentin's programs too. You can't go wrong with either one and both include excellent training. In my opinion, it's best to have full control over the sites and the hosting.

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@Jackmoon, are you a white label reseller? Their pricing is not available online.
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Thumbs up for SnackWebsites.com (if you want an easy to build fully...)

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