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Just wondering if anyone wants to share their pricing for managing SMS broadcasts for clients? Do you do it per subscriber or message? Price breaks at X number of messages/month, etc?

I know what MY costs would be, but I don't know what would be considered average/decent pricing for managing text broadcasts and appointment reminder services. I wouldn't want to come in at .05 a message and leave lots of money on the table or do the same and be considered too high and skipped over. For reference I tried contacting a few providers in my area but they seem to want to bundle other services in together and offer things like "unlimited messages" with their services which I have no interest in doing.

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This is always tricky, as there are a lot of variables that go into it. The first thing I do when determining price is I try and come up with a ballpark of how many subscribers I think the business will attract (obviously this will fluctuate, so give yourself room for growth. I then multiply the estimated subscribers by 10 (10 messages per month or 2.5 messages per week).

This gives me a rough estimate of the amount of messages that the business will be using per month. I already know what the costs me per message, so I usually just triple that to come up with a rough number of what I should charge the client.

The hardest part with doing it this way is figuring out the amount of subscribers. Somethings you can do to help figure this out is check the business' FB (if they have one) and see how many fans they have. Usually, if they are already promoting stuff on their fb page, you can probably figure at the very least 50% of those people would opt-in a text list. Then, you can ask the owner/manager an approximate number of people that come in per day or week.

Anyway, I hope that wasn't too confusing, but its what generally works for me. Best of luck!

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Originally Posted by MitchKid View Post

This is always tricky, as there are a lot of variables that go into it. The first thing I do when determining price is I try and come up with a ballpark of how many subscribers I think the business will attract (obviously this will fluctuate, so give yourself room for growth. I then multiply the estimated subscribers by 10 (10 messages per month or 2.5 messages per week).

This gives me a rough estimate of the amount of messages that the business will be using per month. I already know what the costs me per message, so I usually just triple that to come up with a rough number of what I should charge the client.

The hardest part with doing it this way is figuring out the amount of subscribers. Somethings you can do to help figure this out is check the business' FB (if they have one) and see how many fans they have. Usually, if they are already promoting stuff on their fb page, you can probably figure at the very least 50% of those people would opt-in a text list. Then, you can ask the owner/manager an approximate number of people that come in per day or week.

Anyway, I hope that wasn't too confusing, but its what generally works for me. Best of luck!

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10 Messages per month? 2.5 per week?

That kind of message delivery will cause a higher than acceptable number of Opt-Outs

Generally 4 to 6 per month is the tolerance. Anything above that will cause a serious hampering of the ability to build a list.

There are exceptions to the rule, such as people who are subscribing to receive daily specials, etc.

Managed Pricing is a relative arena. It will depend on what your market will bear and the type of business you are working with.

If you price too low you lose potential revenue and if you price too high Business Owners will feel you are over priced.

Many Mobile Marketing Firms will charge $250 a month for a managed account.

We have a tiered pricing model depending on the number of messages they want sent per month and what other services we are offering.

We generally do $149.00 for 4 unique messages or $199.00 for 6 unique messages. We then charge usage of the platform separately.

Of course that pricing includes signage and training of their staff.

I have seen other firms go with a Database Size Model where the price rises in relation to the size of the subscriber list.

Personally I don't like that model because it almost creates a mental barrier in the business owners mind as to how actively they want to add subscribers...and that is bad for business.

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10 Messages per month? 2.5 per week?

That kind of message delivery will cause a higher than acceptable number of Opt-Outs
I use that number to get a general idea to compensate the unknown amount of subscribers. And you are right, I only send at the very most 8 blasts per month, normally its closer to 4-6 like you said. I simply was describing the way that I come up with a rough price without knowing specifically the type of business daniel was targeting.

Depending on the type of business, volume of clientele and other factors, I charge my clients as much as $549 to as little as $99/month. Again, its all relative to what the biz needs.

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Originally Posted by MitchKid View Post

I use that number to get a general idea to compensate the unknown amount of subscribers. And you are right, I only send at the very most 8 blasts per month, normally its closer to 4-6 like you said. I simply was describing the way that I come up with a rough price without knowing specifically the type of business daniel was targeting.

Depending on the type of business, volume of clientele and other factors, I charge my clients as much as $549 to as little as $99/month. Again, its all relative to what the biz needs.

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And in the grand scheme of things, doing what is best for the business is how we retain the client for the long term.

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We generally do $149.00 for 4 unique messages or $199.00 for 6 unique messages. We then charge usage of the platform separately.
So you charge $149 or $199 and then the text usage per month. Let's say you charge $.07 per text and the customer only has 20 opt-ins. Does that mean you charge $149 / $199 + $1.40? Or do you have a minimum monthly charge for text messages too?

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Originally Posted by 512 Designs View Post

So you charge $149 or $199 and then the text usage per month. Let's say you charge $.07 per text and the customer only has 20 opt-ins. Does that mean you charge $149 / $199 + $1.40? Or do you have a minimum monthly charge for text messages too?

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Their Setup Fee covers the first 30 days during which time we are working with them to build their subscriber list. By the time they hit their second month their list is ALWAYS much larger than 20 subscribers.

We also don't charge 7 Cents a Text...thats a bit too much. We arent turning a profit on Text Messages.

Keep in mind that I did say "Generally"...thats for a fully managed account with a subscriber base.

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Originally Posted by HypeText View Post

Their Setup Fee covers the first 30 days during which time we are working with them to build their subscriber list. By the time they hit their second month their list is ALWAYS much larger than 20 subscribers.

We also don't charge 7 Cents a Text...thats a bit too much. We arent turning a profit on Text Messages.

Keep in mind that I did say "Generally"...thats for a fully managed account with a subscriber base.
I'm curious as to why you don't turn a profit on individual texts too. It seems to be a good idea to have some cushion built into the texts as well at least for admin side or incase you need to switch providers.

BTW Hypetext, after seeing your posts in several other threads I just went to your site. You did a great job and I also like your implementation of the QR Code. You may, however, want to take a look at your mobile site. When I visited your m site from my iPhone it was very tiny. Even though I could clearly see it was intended for mobile, there seems to be something there that makes your page to wide and thus too small to view without pinch and zoom.
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Originally Posted by Legacy3 View Post

I'm curious as to why you don't turn a profit on individual texts too. It seems to be a good idea to have some cushion built into the texts as well at least for admin side or incase you need to switch providers.

BTW Hypetext, after seeing your posts in several other threads I just went to your site. You did a great job and I also like your implementation of the QR Code. You may, however, want to take a look at your mobile site. When I visited your m site from my iPhone it was very tiny. Even though I could clearly see it was intended for mobile, there seems to be something there that makes your page to wide and thus too small to view without pinch and zoom.
I should say that Text Messages arent the basis of our profit...of course their is a cushion and they do go on a plan...

I will check out the IPhone issue on the mobile site....It shows fine on my Android though.

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HypeText and MitchKid,

Do you require businesses to sign contracts or service agreements? If so, what is the length? Do you give price breaks for longer contracts and how do you break the pricing down for these time periods?
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HypeText and MitchKid,

Do you require businesses to sign contracts or service agreements? If so, what is the length? Do you give price breaks for longer contracts and how do you break the pricing down for these time periods?
I can't speak for Mitchkid, but we choose to allow the Merchant to go Month to Month and do not lock them into a Contract. We just feel it's better to control attrition thru Service rather than holding them Hostage.

Our Clients do sign a Service Agreement as we feel it's best to have the information in Black & white so that the client knows what to expect from us as well as what is expected of them.

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Originally Posted by Legacy3 View Post

HypeText and MitchKid,

Do you require businesses to sign contracts or service agreements? If so, what is the length? Do you give price breaks for longer contracts and how do you break the pricing down for these time periods?
Yea I go month to month, its low risk for both parties involved. I have been doing this for about 7 months now and the vast majority of my clients have stayed with me without any issues doing it this way. If for some reason they want out, its an easy termination. Im all about staying drama free and simple
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Originally Posted by Legacy3 View Post

Hypetext,
Would you please PM me a copy of your Service Agreement? I have one for mobile websites but am looking for a good SMS agreement. Thanks.



MitchKid,
If you have a service agreement please PM a copy. Thanks.
Legacy,

Our Service agreement is more of an order form that references our own Terms of Service on our Website so I am not sure how much good it would do you.

I think I have a Generic one somewhere...I will see if I can dig it us and send you a copy...but keep in mind it's still best to have an Attorney draw one up as Laws are different area to area

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Originally Posted by Legacy3 View Post

Thank you Hype Text! It's a good starting point.
No problem...

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