Mobile Validator Query

Young Samurai · 1st Mar 2012, 06:27 AM

Yesterday I decided to do a little tweaking on one of my demo sites.

It had scored 96% on the W3C MobileOK Checker a week ago

and I ran it through again with the intention of correcting the flagged errors and warnings to see if I could up that score.

BUT, the score had fallen to 83%

and a Severe Error message is flagged with the heading " The CSS style sheet is not syntactically valid CSS."

I'm completely at a loss as to the drop in the score.

The ONLY change I had made over the week was adding :hover to the menu items, but even when I remove it the score remains unchanged.

Has anyone seen this severe error before?

Any thoughts welcome.

Quentin · 1st Mar 2012, 07:50 AM

As soon as you start adding any content your score will drop thats why W3 is a pretty factious way of testing your site. Its good to see where you may be falling down but read the things to see if they are worth chasing

Try the new Google Go Mo as it is based more on speed than the old validation rules and in the end I think this is what google and other SE will use.

So sites like youtube only validate around 60% if they have no content and less if they do and yet get millions of views.

Do you want to get views and traffic or do you want to Validate?

Test Your Site

Quentin

Young Samurai · 1st Mar 2012, 09:23 AM

Quentin,

Thanks once more.

GoogleGoMo gives the site a 5 out of 5

It just annoys me that I can't figure out the validator issue.

Originally Posted by Quentin

As soon as you start adding any content your score will drop thats why W3 is a pretty factious way of testing your site. Its good to see where you may be falling down but read the things to see if they are worth chasing

Try the new Google Go Mo as it is based more on speed than the old validation rules and in the end I think this is what google and other SE will use.

So sites like youtube only validate around 60% if they have no content and less if they do and yet get millions of views.

Do you want to get views and traffic or do you want to Validate?

Test Your Site

Quentin

WillR · 3rd Mar 2012, 04:43 AM

Send a link to the W3C results to my PM if you want and I'll take a look for you.

Quentin · 3rd Mar 2012, 07:58 AM

When chasing down things with the W3 validator you can click on the where etc and it will expand showing what you need to do to fix.

Sometimes it may be that your page is over 20KB or a css issue but it is all there for you to hunt down.

If you use any jquery etc it will be hard to fix as it generally has many files and so sends your site over the requirements.

Q

Young Samurai · 3rd Mar 2012, 08:22 AM

I can't believe you two guys -

You must both be up to your necks with your own concerns

and yet you are the first two to respond when some novice has a problem.

Quentin, I know what you mean by the detailed info the validator usually gives. I've about 11 errors and 10 of them are minor with sufficient info given to easily track them and fix.

But the biggy has no real specific info hence my bewilderment.

So, I've taken Will up on his offer.

I'm waiting to be embarrassed when he quickly points out some basic blunder on my part.

Originally Posted by WillR

Send a link to the W3C results to my PM if you want and I'll take a look for you.

Originally Posted by Quentin

When chasing down things with the W3 validator you can click on the where etc and it will expand showing what you need to do to fix.

Sometimes it may be that your page is over 20KB or a css issue but it is all there for you to hunt down.

If you use any jquery etc it will be hard to fix as it generally has many files and so sends your site over the requirements.

Q

WillR · 3rd Mar 2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Young Samurai

I can't believe you two guys -

You must both be up to your necks with your own concerns

and yet you are the first two to respond when some novice has a problem.

I'm a moderator of the Mobile Marketing forum so I try and get in here at least once or twice a day to clean out the rubbish... that's my excuse anyway :-)

Young Samurai · 3rd Mar 2012, 09:52 AM

OK problem resolved by Will quicker than Bolt can cover 100m.

As I suspected a silly error on my part.

A semi-colon out of place.

My silliness is in knowing it was there but not realising that it would be frowned upon so much by the validator.

Hopefully lesson learned.

Back up to 96% with the hover effect I was looking for.

Now to sort out the other issues.

Thanks again to the Good Samaritans.

PS I'm still reading and trying to work out just how insulted I should be by Will's "rubbish" comment.

Jay Moreno · 3rd Mar 2012, 03:40 PM

am a bit late to the party but feel free to send me your url and ill see whats causing the other 4% - if your already getting 96% i would suggest its fine but if your a perfectionist or OCD feel free to PM me

Young Samurai · 3rd Mar 2012, 04:03 PM

Jay,

Thanks for the offer.

I reckon file and image size is probably the biggest issue.

When I've checked that out I may take you up on the offer.

Originally Posted by Jay Moreno

am a bit late to the party but feel free to send me your url and ill see whats causing the other 4% - if your already getting 96% i would suggest its fine but if your a perfectionist or OCD feel free to PM me

WillR · 3rd Mar 2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Young Samurai

PS I'm still reading and trying to work out just how insulted I should be by Will's "rubbish" comment.

You shouldn't be offended at all because if your posts are still showing then it means you are NOT part of that rubbish

1st Mar 2012, 06:27 AM	#1
Young Samurai In search of knowledge Join Date: 2010 Location: N. Ireland, the Golfing capital of the world Posts: 473 Thanks: 68 Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts	Mobile Validator Query Share on: Yesterday I decided to do a little tweaking on one of my demo sites. It had scored 96% on the *W3C MobileOK Checker* a week ago and I ran it through again with the intention of correcting the flagged errors and warnings to see if I could up that score. BUT, the score had fallen to *83%* and a Severe Error message is flagged with the heading " The CSS style sheet is not syntactically valid CSS." I'm completely at a loss as to the drop in the score. The ONLY change I had made over the week was adding :hover to the menu items, but even when I remove it the score remains unchanged. Has anyone seen this severe error before? Any thoughts welcome.
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1st Mar 2012, 07:50 AM	#2
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Validator Query Share on: As soon as you start adding any content your score will drop thats why W3 is a pretty factious way of testing your site. Its good to see where you may be falling down but read the things to see if they are worth chasing Try the new Google Go Mo as it is based more on speed than the old validation rules and in the end I think this is what google and other SE will use. So sites like youtube only validate around 60% if they have no content and less if they do and yet get millions of views. Do you want to get views and traffic or do you want to Validate? Test Your Site Quentin
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WillR Digital Marketer War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 12,475 Thanks: 1,984 Thanked 8,187 Times in 4,079 Posts	Re: Mobile Validator Query Share on: Send a link to the W3C results to my PM if you want and I'll take a look for you.
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3rd Mar 2012, 07:58 AM	#5
Quentin Web Marketing For Profit War Room Member Join Date: 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1,162 Times in 528 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Re: Mobile Validator Query Share on: When chasing down things with the W3 validator you can click on the where etc and it will expand showing what you need to do to fix. Sometimes it may be that your page is over 20KB or a css issue but it is all there for you to hunt down. If you use any jquery etc it will be hard to fix as it generally has many files and so sends your site over the requirements. Q
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3rd Mar 2012, 09:52 AM	#8
Young Samurai In search of knowledge Join Date: 2010 Location: N. Ireland, the Golfing capital of the world Posts: 473 Thanks: 68 Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Mobile Validator Query Share on: OK problem resolved by Will quicker than Bolt can cover 100m. As I suspected a silly error on my part. A semi-colon out of place. My silliness is in knowing it was there but not realising that it would be frowned upon so much by the validator. Hopefully lesson learned. Back up to 96% with the hover effect I was looking for. Now to sort out the other issues. Thanks again to the Good Samaritans. PS I'm still reading and trying to work out just how insulted I should be by Will's "rubbish" comment.
	*Kyle*

3rd Mar 2012, 03:40 PM	#9
Jay Moreno Mobile+WP = JumpMobi.com War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 1,270 Thanks: 301 Thanked 449 Times in 309 Posts	Re: Mobile Validator Query Share on: am a bit late to the party but feel free to send me your url and ill see whats causing the other 4% - if your already getting 96% i would suggest its fine but if your a perfectionist or OCD feel free to PM me
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