Mobile Redirection to mobile version of any page

medialink · 10th May 2012, 12:07 AM

Does anyone know of a mobile redirection plugin for wordpress that allows for visitors to be redirected to the mobile version of the specific page they are visiting rather than all being redirected to a single mobile page?

eg if a visitor is going to mydomain.com/about I want them to be redirected to m.mydomain.com/about rather than just m.mydomain.com.

So far all the plugins I have seen only allow for redirection to a single predetermined page, not redirection to a mobile version of the page they are trying to access.

If there aren't any plugins, does anyone know how this can be done using htaccess?

Thanks

Jon

Kevin Z · 10th May 2012, 11:10 AM

@medialink

We have come across this from time to time. Our free wordpress plugin redirects as you mentioned directly to the homepage.

Because it gets added to the <head> tag of the desktop site the mobile redirect executes on all sub pages of the desktop site as well.

So if you were to hit on your mobi phone http://www.yourdomain.com/about-us/ it would redirect you to the home page.

98% of the time users will either find your site by searching Google Mobile in which case if your mobile sub pages are indexed then it will link to the proper mobile sub page. OR users will tend to hit your domain by direct URL.

So there really isn't a great need for a mobile redirect to direct desktop traffic to the exact mobile page.

With that being said you can always link directly to your internal mobile page such as http://m.yourdomain.com/about-us/

Hope this helps

hellojava · 10th May 2012, 11:48 AM

Where can I find your free redirection plugin? I wish to check it out.

imwantob · 10th May 2012, 02:59 PM

Will R's WSO has a plug-in that will do what you are asking - perhaps you can contact him - http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...2-reviews.html

WillR · 10th May 2012, 06:08 PM

I don't agree with Kevin.

A good mobile redirect script SHOULD allow each and every page of your standard site to be redirected to the mobile equivalent page. If some searches Google for your opening hours and lands on the opening hours page of your main website, then sending them to the homepage of your mobile site is silly and NOT a good user experience. A good mobile redirect script should send them to the equivalent opening hours page on the mobile site.

I haven't seen other redirect plugins that allow different redirect urls for each page/post. My one does but it's not something you can get for free I'm afraid.

Internet_Corporation · 11th May 2012, 12:17 AM

I would not agree with this 100%. If a visitor locates a page of yours and wants that specific information you will quickly lose the visitor if you send them to the home page and leave them to try and find the information they want.

You would be far better using unique redirection code for the vast majority of your key pages and only use a generic redirection to the home page for less important pages.

A good mobile website builder such as ours should offer a unique redirection code for each page created.

It is well worth the extra time to do this, after all it only has to be done the once.

Originally Posted by Kevin Z

@medialink

We have come across this from time to time. Our free wordpress plugin redirects as you mentioned directly to the homepage.

Because it gets added to the <head> tag of the desktop site the mobile redirect executes on all sub pages of the desktop site as well.

So if you were to hit on your mobi phone http://www.yourdomain.com/about-us/ it would redirect you to the home page.

98% of the time users will either find your site by searching Google Mobile in which case if your mobile sub pages are indexed then it will link to the proper mobile sub page. OR users will tend to hit your domain by direct URL.

So there really isn't a great need for a mobile redirect to direct desktop traffic to the exact mobile page.

With that being said you can always link directly to your internal mobile page such as http://m.yourdomain.com/about-us/

Hope this helps

medialink · 11th May 2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by WillR

I don't agree with Kevin.

A good mobile redirect script SHOULD allow each and every page of your standard site to be redirected to the mobile equivalent page. If some searches Google for your opening hours and lands on the opening hours page of your main website, then sending them to the homepage of your mobile site is silly and NOT a good user experience. A good mobile redirect script should send them to the equivalent opening hours page on the mobile site.

I haven't seen other redirect plugins that allow different redirect urls for each page/post. My one does but it's not something you can get for free I'm afraid.

This is what I think also, it seems foolish to settle for a generic redirect of all pages to the same mobile page which is why I started this thread. I was very surprised when I started looking for something to do the job for me and found that every script and plugin I looked at took the lazy option - it's no great programming challenge to redirect each page to it's mobile equivalent.

I have managed to create my own solution for my specific situation now but am still interested in finding out about other scripts and solutions for this. Will is the script you mention included in the WSO linked to in one of the posts above yours?

Thanks

Kevin Z · 11th May 2012, 08:52 AM

I should reiterate my response...

The issue is if you are running a totally independent mobile site from your desktop then it will be indexed separately by Google in which case your argument is invalid Will.

When a user searches for "Wills Company Contact " in Google on their smartphone it will display the mobile contact page as a top result if the mobile site is properly indexed and seo'd. Desktop results will only be displayed if the relevant mobile results can't be found within Google.

So why exactly would I want to redirect to sub pages when 98.5% of my mobile traffic is coming from indexed Google searches?

I wouldn't call any approach lazy just different perspectives on how to direct mobile traffic.

As I mentioned the majority of users are fine with the "standard" home page redirect BUT if you want more control and power then a plugin like Wills is most likely your best bet and well worth the investment.

Originally Posted by WillR

I don't agree with Kevin.

A good mobile redirect script SHOULD allow each and every page of your standard site to be redirected to the mobile equivalent page. If some searches Google for your opening hours and lands on the opening hours page of your main website, then sending them to the homepage of your mobile site is silly and NOT a good user experience. A good mobile redirect script should send them to the equivalent opening hours page on the mobile site.

I haven't seen other redirect plugins that allow different redirect urls for each page/post. My one does but it's not something you can get for free I'm afraid.

medialink · 11th May 2012, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Z

I should reiterate my response...
I wouldn't call any approach lazy just different perspectives on how to direct mobile traffic.

It's the programming of nearly all redirect scripts and plugins that I am calling lazy since they don't include the option to redirect to a mobile version of any page, something that isn't difficult to program. If you choose to redirect all mobile traffic to a mobile homepage, that is fine, nothing lazy about that, it's your choice - that approach doesn't suit my specific needs, my choice to redirect to sub-pages (a mobile version of whatever page the visitor is hitting) is something that isn't catered for by 99.9% of solutions, in my opinion, that is lazy programming.

KaylaB · 12th Jun 2013, 11:27 AM

The official word from Google on what it calls "Faulty Redirects", when all the desktop pages redirect to the mobile home page, rather than the corresponding mobile page.

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Changes in rankings of smartphone search results

WillR · 12th Jun 2013, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by KaylaB

The official word from Google on what it calls "Faulty Redirects", when all the desktop pages redirect to the mobile home page, rather than the corresponding mobile page.

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Changes in rankings of smartphone search results

I saw that also Kayla.

It just makes sense that you send people to the mobile version of the info they were actually looking for.

Glad they have come out and said this.

Si Parker · 13th Jun 2013, 10:06 AM

this is precisely why im currently trawling through forums and mobile site creators trying to see if anyone has a relevant plugin or script which will deal with this well.

Google are going to penalise faulty redirect sites rankings according to cutts himself.

Is there any good way to do this does anyone think?

Danny Turner · 14th Jun 2013, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by mukeshkt00

Does anyone know of a mobile redirection plugin for wordpress that allows for visitors to be redirected to the mobile version of the specific page they are visiting rather than all being redirected to a single mobile page

Hi, if you look in my sig you will see a link for plugin that does just that .... sort of...
well it builds the mobile site and once activated it will present a mobile user the wp content wrapped in the mobile template

something that isn't catered for by 99.9% of solutions, in my opinion, that is lazy programming.

and did you know 86.24% of all statistics are meaningless???
just kidding.... I was just thinking about this .. I'm boggled that any redirect only goes to home page, let alone the majority..what a waste of time! - I think you would be better of without a mobile site , getting the right information - poorly formatted would have to be better than the wrong info... no matter how pretty!

It may be a personal thing but...often WP sites with posts on front page will get indexed for a keyword - time passes and that post moves off the front page ... I sometimes come across this when googling stuff..... first thing I do is hit the back button and try another site... why ? 'cause it's quicker than searching around a site for info that maybe good ..

Pipstone · 3rd Jul 2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by medialink

I have managed to create my own solution for my specific situation now but am still interested in finding out about other scripts and solutions for this. Will is the script you mention included in the WSO linked to in one of the posts above yours?

Hi Jon,
Would you mind sharing the solution you have developed?
For some website/business owners I think that it is very important to have desktop pages that redirect to mobile optimised pages- sometimes it just depends on how you direct traffic to your sites.
Thanks,
Phil

KaylaB · 3rd Jul 2013, 10:33 AM

Has anyone got a solution for page to page redirects on Wordpres sites? With the millions of Wordpress sites out there, someone must have come up with a solution to this. Please share!

WillR · 3rd Jul 2013, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by sip

Google are going to penalise faulty redirect sites rankings according to cutts himself.

I don't think they will penalize sites. They will just favor those sites that have things setup correctly.

Originally Posted by KaylaB

Has anyone got a solution for page to page redirects on Wordpres sites? With the millions of Wordpress sites out there, someone must have come up with a solution to this. Please share!

I have a WP plugin inside my course that allows each page/post to be redirected to wherever you want.

I'm making some small changes to it and thinking of then giving it away for free to everyone.

Danny Turner · 3rd Jul 2013, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by KaylaB

Has anyone got a solution for page to page redirects on Wordpres sites? With the millions of Wordpress sites out there, someone must have come up with a solution to this. Please share!

Yes.. see my sig

once the WP Easy Mobile plugin is activated - any page or post for that site will show the page/post content 'wrapped' in the mobile website format.
Only the home page is different - it is redirected to the mobile 'main' page - where the custom mobile menu (+ any other content you choose) is displayed
Danny

KaylaB · 4th Jul 2013, 12:36 PM

Thanks Will and Danny.

Will - I have your course so I will look for the plugin!

thanks

Stewart Alexander · 4th Jul 2013, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by WillR

I have a WP plugin inside my course that allows each page/post to be redirected to wherever you want.

I'm making some small changes to it and thinking of then giving it away for free to everyone.

Will, do you have a redirect that does the same job for mobile sites built in html?

Thanks

WillR · 4th Jul 2013, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Stewart Alexander

Will, do you have a redirect that does the same job for mobile sites built in html?

Thanks

If you are using HTML Stewart then it's actually easier. If using HTML site you need to manually install any redirect script you have into the header of each page. So when you put the redirect script on each page you would just specify inside that redirect code where you want that particular page to redirect to.

MrIMVO · 29th Jul 2014, 03:21 PM

It's been a year now and was wondering if more plugins or methods have been developed to allow for a page to m.page redirect.

Also, in Wordpress, is it even possible to put a redirect on a specific page? Or is the only option to place it in the header?

thanks,
mike

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medialink Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Mobile Redirection to mobile version of any page Share on: Does anyone know of a mobile redirection plugin for wordpress that allows for visitors to be redirected to the mobile version of the specific page they are visiting rather than all being redirected to a single mobile page? eg if a visitor is going to mydomain.com/about I want them to be redirected to m.mydomain.com/about rather than just m.mydomain.com. So far all the plugins I have seen only allow for redirection to a single predetermined page, not redirection to a mobile version of the page they are trying to access. If there aren't any plugins, does anyone know how this can be done using htaccess? Thanks Jon

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Kevin Z brickandmobile.com War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 309 Thanks: 60 Thanked 106 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Mobile Redirection to mobile version of any page Share on: @medialink We have come across this from time to time. Our free wordpress plugin redirects as you mentioned directly to the homepage. Because it gets added to the <head> tag of the desktop site the mobile redirect executes on all sub pages of the desktop site as well. So if you were to hit on your mobi phone http://www.yourdomain.com/about-us/ it would redirect you to the home page. 98% of the time users will either find your site by searching Google Mobile in which case if your mobile sub pages are indexed then it will link to the proper mobile sub page. OR users will tend to hit your domain by direct URL. So there really isn't a great need for a mobile redirect to direct desktop traffic to the exact mobile page. With that being said you can always link directly to your internal mobile page such as http://m.yourdomain.com/about-us/ Hope this helps
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WillR Digital Marketer War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 12,475 Thanks: 1,984 Thanked 8,187 Times in 4,079 Posts	Re: Mobile Redirection to mobile version of any page Share on: I don't agree with Kevin. A good mobile redirect script SHOULD allow each and every page of your standard site to be redirected to the mobile equivalent page. If some searches Google for your opening hours and lands on the opening hours page of your main website, then sending them to the homepage of your mobile site is silly and NOT a good user experience. A good mobile redirect script should send them to the equivalent opening hours page on the mobile site. I haven't seen other redirect plugins that allow different redirect urls for each page/post. My one does but it's not something you can get for free I'm afraid.
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Si Parker SEO Expert War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: UK Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Mobile Redirection to mobile version of any page Share on: this is precisely why im currently trawling through forums and mobile site creators trying to see if anyone has a relevant plugin or script which will deal with this well. Google are going to penalise faulty redirect sites rankings according to cutts himself. Is there any good way to do this does anyone think?

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