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Unread 12th Sep 2012, 01:05 PM   #1
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New screen size... Will that change anything with a template for mobile such as Will R's template??

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Well I hear its supposed to be faster and thinner too so that may come into play in making a difference

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Originally Posted by Mike McAleer View Post

New screen size... Will that change anything with a template for mobile such as Will R's template??
I doubt it as mobile sites are designed for mobiles not iPhones specifically. They need to work on screens from 3.5 upto 5.3 inches across.

I COULD be wrong but I'm sure WillR will be along shortly to let us know.

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Originally Posted by Mike McAleer View Post

New screen size... Will that change anything with a template for mobile such as Will R's template??
If you use a redirect based on screen size, then that's definitely something you will need to account for. The iPhone 5's screen resolution is 1136 x 640 px, which means that it's the first iPhone that has a pixel width greater than a (somewhat) common desktop monitor display width (1024 px).

So in my opinion... IF you use a screen size-based redirect (as opposed to a user agent redirect), then you should create conditional rules in your redirect code that account for (at a minimum) the iPhone 5 and Samsung Galaxy S3 screen resolutions.

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<script type="text/javascript">

if ((screen.width == 1136) && (screen.height == 640)) { /* iPhone 5 */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    } else if ((screen.width == 1280) && (screen.height == 720)) { /* Galaxy S3 */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    } else if (screen.width < 1024) { /* the vast majority of all other mobile devices */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    }

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The only thing it means is people will now be able to see more of your mobile website than they could before. In terms of viewing, the width of the display hasn't changed, only the height.

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Originally Posted by WillR View Post

In terms of viewing, the width of the display hasn't changed, only the height.
Unless of course they're viewing in landscape mode.


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Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

Unless of course they're viewing in landscape mode.
True, but I find most mobile sites are made or (and usually viewed) in portrait.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

Unless of course they're viewing in landscape mode.
Correct. But in terms of the actual screen width value, on iphones it doesn't change whether you are viewing it in landscape mode or portrait.

iPhone Portrait Mode -- 320 x 480



iPhone Landscape Mode -- 320 x 480





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Originally Posted by WillR View Post

Correct. But in terms of the actual screen width value, on iphones it doesn't change whether you are viewing it in landscape mode or portrait.
I didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing that out!

BTW, do you know of any other popular phones that do that, or is it just the iPhone?


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Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

I didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing that out!

BTW, do you know of any other popular phones that do that, or is it just the iPhone?
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Not sure about the others. Android phones seem to change deepening on the orientation of the phone (which makes sense) but the iphone has always kept the same values regardless of the orientation.

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lolX Iphone 5 just shatup and take my money


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Thank u so much
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If you need any testing done on a site feel free to send me a pm as i have the iphone 5 so am more than happy to test it for you.The phone is great and the bigger screen fantastic but i will say the battery life is totally crap and in my experience i am getting nowhere near the promised talk times , but your usage may vary



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Does anyone have iphone 5 yet,how much does it cost back in states?
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Does the iPhone5 support flash? I hope not

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I believe that bigger screen will just enable users to see more of a mobile website. However, since the processor speed is different it may need some sort of alteration to a mobile website. However, since all other aspects of iPhone 5 is the same as iPhone 4S, not much difference will be there between the visibility of a mobile website on the new phone.
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Biggest issues i have seen are related to mobile web apps on the iphone5.

You will need a conditional statement to address the different start up page dimensions if you are using full screen mode with your mobile web apps.

Also you will need to address some minor changes to your viewport width too to make sure that when your web app is in full screen mode it doesn't leave borders at the top and bottom of your page.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

If you use a redirect based on screen size, then that's definitely something you will need to account for. The iPhone 5's screen resolution is 1136 x 640 px, which means that it's the first iPhone that has a pixel width greater than a (somewhat) common desktop monitor display width (1024 px).

So in my opinion... IF you use a screen size-based redirect (as opposed to a user agent redirect), then you should create conditional rules in your redirect code that account for (at a minimum) the iPhone 5 and Samsung Galaxy S3 screen resolutions.

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<script type="text/javascript">

if ((screen.width == 1136) && (screen.height == 640)) { /* iPhone 5 */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    } else if ((screen.width == 1280) && (screen.height == 720)) { /* Galaxy S3 */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    } else if (screen.width < 1024) { /* the vast majority of all other mobile devices */
    window.location = 'http:www.MobileWebsite.com';
    }

</script>
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nothing to worry for websites owners..no change in iPhone 5 file formats
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Now iOS 6 on the way. iO6 offers you a range of other useful features, such as Do Not Disturb, ability to create the list of very important people, iCloud, Enhanced App Store, New Clock app for iPad, FaceTime and others. By and large, the iOS 6 update is exciting lots of users who own third generation iPad and iPhone 4S. And remember that you really do not need to run out and buy iPhone 5 for taking advantages of all the new features of iOS 6.
That's a but obvious thing mfred90,Apple provides it's iOS update for all their smart phone models. But iOS 6 seems a bit buggy, a lot of people are downgrading from iOS 6 back to iOS 5.x.x

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New screen size compare to all other versions of iPhone. That may affect the iPhone app which are developed in earlier versions of iPhone.

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Originally Posted by Jay Moreno View Post

Biggest issues i have seen are related to mobile web apps on the iphone5.

You will need a conditional statement to address the different start up page dimensions if you are using full screen mode with your mobile web apps.

Also you will need to address some minor changes to your viewport width too to make sure that when your web app is in full screen mode it doesn't leave borders at the top and bottom of your page.

Hope that helps

Cheers,

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Jay,

Would you mind sharing what that conditional statement looks like? And do these go in the <head> ??

Also, what mod's are required to the viewport code?
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Jay,

Would you mind sharing what that conditional statement looks like? And do these go in the <head> ??

Also, what mod's are required to the viewport code?
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this should cover most of what you need - iPhone 5 and iOS 6 for HTML5 developers, a big step forward: web inspector, new APIs and more | Breaking the Mobile Web

i would actually recommend passing a global variable or dropping a cookie - so your not continually having to rerun the conditional since its javascript based thats if your sites are php based.

really depends what and where you need to use it - for the viewport then you do need to run it in the head section of your page.

hope that helps

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@dantehicks

this should cover most of what you need - iPhone 5 and iOS 6 for HTML5 developers, a big step forward: web inspector, new APIs and more | Breaking the Mobile Web

i would actually recommend passing a global variable or dropping a cookie - so your not continually having to rerun the conditional since its javascript based thats if your sites are php based.

really depends what and where you need to use it - for the viewport then you do need to run it in the head section of your page.

hope that helps

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Yessir, that is exactly what I need. Thanks for your help!
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