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Unread 7th February 2013, 12:37 AM   #51
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That's interesting you would that web designers would just create the mobile sites themselves.


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Sorry, been busy!

Actually Just sold another one today! Usually most sales are coming from Doctors and Lawyers.

Your over thinking the "software" part, you dont even have to be all that experienced. I believe WillR even has Html Mobile templates that would work fine.

I personally code do most of mine in JQuery Mobile, I like the flexibility, and I can optimize the page speeds pretty good.

Im not a web designer by trade, Im not a coder either. To be fair tho, I do know how to code on a medium level and can code in PHP, HTML, CSS....so that helps

Most are my sales are actually coming from Web Designers, not even from the actual client.

Hope this helps!
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I would like to chip in. I've been focusing on mobile for a while now and what I have found is it's much easier to sell to clients I already have some sort of working relationship with.

Also, I like to create a mock-up of a mobile friendly version of their website first and present that to them. That seems to work best for me.

Thus far, I have not had any success using the emailing strategies presenting in most of the WSO's I've purchased. I have only gained one new client this way, but I was actually marketing social media optimization. That got the response, and when I touched base, I mentioned mobile as well and ended up landing that deal.

I think you will have more success with mobile with a Face-to-face approach vs. email. I have generated a lot of interests / and deals that way too. Since, I'm phone shy.. I think it's possible, but not my cup of tea.

There is a lot of money to be made in mobile whether you code the sites yourself or use software. I build my sites both ways. But I agree, it's not as easy as a lot of the WSO's marketed on this forum make it seem. It takes consistent work and a plan. Having a sales person is a great idea if you have the budget or can get them to work on commission.
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Many thanks Social Guy for taking the time to clear that up for me regarding what a responsive site is.

If you don't mind, would you kindly answer another question. If you and your client determine that all that is needed is a simple mobile site, rather than a responsive site, where does the site you build get uploaded, and how? thanks

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We can upload it to a subdomain so it stays on their domain. We also let the the mobile visitors re-direct to our domain (als sub domain with their name in it). This is the method I prefer because you have more control over the site and files.

But if a client wants to get the mobile site on his own (sub) domain I will always do that.
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discounts keyword is good for mobile

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Hello,

The truth is, yes you can make money...

The person who tried 100 times and gave up I don't blame you. Might not be a good thing in your area just yet.

My sister is a Visalus Rep it is a Weight loss niche, she got her FREE BMW in about 4 months. I'm also a Vi Rep and in my area no one has money and we are not near any beaches and a winter snow state.... she is in Sunny Florida people go to the beaches they want to look good... She has moved to a state that has winter and no beaches it took a nose dive.

One place it was easy to sign people up, one place it is not so easy.

Depends on your location and the timing of things.

I'm in a small town but have made about 5 PC websites... I know 3 business right now that does not want a website at all... I offered FREE sites to them no charge ever and they just don't want one.

We are in the top 6 of unemployed Rates people just don't have money... the house on my left 265,000.00 Foreclosed SOLD for 127,000. The house on the right side of me 79,000. Foreclosed SOLD for 16,000.

I have talked to about 5 business and nothing besides I will think about it.

I have ran into many many people who don't even know who their web host is or they don't even own their own domain name... some company set it all up years ago or what ever and have no clue how to get to it to have something changed or updated.

What works for one does not mean it will work for you. Think about that next time you want to buy a WSO.

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If you have a good product and you know how to tell the client how they can benefit from it you can make money... The most important thing to do first is PRE-QUALIFY YOUR CLIENT BEFORE YOU WALK/PHONE/MAIL IN!

I will never visit a client who does not have a website/advertise. My perfect client is somebody who already has an web presence for a year of five (at least). They already worked with IM people. If the just sold them a website changes are they are not very happy with their current IM guy..

I'm my own boss now for a little more than a year and this has worked out good for me, last year I sold some clients a mobile website + social media plan, they are so happy with my work that I can now build a complete new website for them (responsive), the mobile website was €239,- the new website will be €2.000,- I have more examples like that and have learned a lot from Willr, Jay Moreno, John Durham and a lot of other guys in the mobile/offline marketing discussions forum!

Pre qualify, mind-set, enthusiasm and some good tools/products will get you a good start!
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I once made $80.000+ in 3 months (no-work) and how did you do this? Offline or online?
It was a cashback website why are you asking ? People are making 80.000 offline, online and in-space.. Stupid question

But it should be easy for you, as you are the coach, I will never be a coach, only a student..
Because i hate selling crap.

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I sell 50+ mobi sites a week with the same as Ahebo.com . If you need the template Skype me at hammer.web.solutions . This market is huge and growing so we as warriors MUST profit from it. GL !

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Also I have mobile sites builder plugin so contact me !

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My apologies to you WillR and to everyone else; I didn't even know what the Multiquote function was for.

Unfortunately, now that you brought it to my attention, I don't seem to be able to use it. I hit the Multiquote link and nothing happens. What am I supposed to do before clicking on it for it to work?
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Please try and use the 'Multiquote' feature when replying to a number of posts at the same time. It makes it easier for everyone. That way you only need one post to reply rather than replying to every post separately.

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I think the discussion on how to build the actual mobile sites is quite useful.

There is another angle to it which is: how to get the leads in the first place? I would recommend this tool called mobipeep.com which makes it easy to find hundreds of businesses without mobile sites without having to check each one individually on your own phone!

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i tried, i had a prof website (trust me)

I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..

I did not make a single dime, not saying their is no money there, because where their are a market there are money..

But i will never do that again, i spend a month not earning shit..

Most other business i have tried, i have made a little amount..

But this was a walk in a desert..
No offense but your approach doesn't seem right at all.

Don't try and put people off of this just because you had a poor approach.
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No offense but your approach doesn't seem right at all.

Don't try and put people off of this just because you had a poor approach.
Agree and not.. If i dont see any money in a week i move to another business approche.. It have worked for me time to time, and i am only getting smarter faster..

To many people are stuck in the same pattern, look around.

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Agree and not.. If i dont see any money in a week i move to another business approche.. It have worked for me time to time, and i am only getting smarter faster..

To many people are stuck in the same pattern, look around.
A whole week, wow. Maybe thats the problem. What business is established in a week. Good Luck with that strategy.
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This is a very interesting topic. I have a few colleagues that have actually seen results but just not appearing to be substantial to me.

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A whole week, wow. Maybe thats the problem. What business is established in a week. Good Luck with that strategy.
Sounds more like Steffan's doing market research and trying to find out if there is a need for the product.

So IMO if (big if) Steffan has a good script, a good offer and a targeted list, a week is plenty of time to find out if there's a substantial market for a product.

BUT at this point I have a hard time believing there isn't a good market for mobile sites in substantial markets (cities).

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i tried, i had a prof website (trust me)

I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..

I did not make a single dime, not saying their is no money there, because where their are a market there are money..

But i will never do that again, i spend a month not earning shit..

Most other business i have tried, i have made a little amount..

But this was a walk in a desert..
Did you just do e-mails only? What other forms of communication did you use when you contacted these businesses? Did you follow back up with these businesses? I am trying to figure out, out of 100 businesses you did not get 1 !
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It does work I even signed a contract yesterday for $1350 plus $120 monthly but it wasn't just mobile site. It was for a website redesign and a mobile site.

Here is a short story: I saw in a magazine a travel agency biz ad (half page) so they might have money for advertising. They didn't even put a website link on it but just an email adress.
I google their site and finally found it on top of Google. It was real amateurism web design, couldn't believe myself.
Then at bottom there was the footer link powered by ..nameofcompanydesign.com I check that company and it land on those parked pages with full of adsense ads.
I suppose thet this web design company have been out of business since months but the travel agency don't even know this.

I email the travel agency with something like this: I've visit your site and to be honest didn't find any info about what I was looking for, your website looks bad but I can help you with a website redesign, I also visit the link at footer ....

Next day I get an email from their travel agent, she replied me that she will forward my message to the manager. Later, I receive an email from the manager for an appointment. Before I went to that appointment I work up to 1:30 AM to get a mockup of website and mobile site ready.
And the day of our meeting, contract was signed.
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I've had similar experiences.

I don't want be negative because you had a good experience but in some ways it just reinforces that it's easier to sell regular websites (that includes a mobile site) than it is to sell mobile websites to businesses that already have websites. Of course you can sell mobile sites by themselves but in truth most business owners either don't understand them, can't see a need for them or see a need but are still reluctant to pay for "another website" when they don't think their main website is helping them.

If you are a real sales person you can do it, but it's not just as easy as showing how their website looks on a mobile phone and how it could look with a mobile version.

It still takes salesmanship and skill and often they will ask about a regular website instead. That's not a bad thing, just often the reality in my experience.

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It does work I even signed a contract yesterday for $1350 plus $120 monthly but it wasn't just mobile site. It was for a website redesign and a mobile site.

Here is a short story: I saw in a magazine a travel agency biz ad (half page) so they might have money for advertising. They didn't even put a website link on it but just an email adress.
I google their site and finally found it on top of Google. It was real amateurism web design, couldn't believe myself.
Then at bottom there was the footer link powered by ..nameofcompanydesign.com I check that company and it land on those parked pages with full of adsense ads.
I suppose thet this web design company have been out of business since months but the travel agency don't even know this.

I email the travel agency with something like this: I've visit your site and to be honest didn't find any info about what I was looking for, your website looks bad but I can help you with a website redesign, I also visit the link at footer ....

Next day I get an email from their travel agent, she replied me that she will forward my message to the manager. Later, I receive an email from the manager for an appointment. Before I went to that appointment I work up to 1:30 AM to get a mockup of website and mobile site ready.
And the day of our meeting, contract was signed.
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A whole week, wow. Maybe thats the problem. What business is established in a week. Good Luck with that strategy.
Problem? What problem ? I have been making money since I was 14.. My strategy works for me, find your own startegy.. THIS IS MINE!!!:p

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Did you just do e-mails only? What other forms of communication did you use when you contacted these businesses? Did you follow back up with these businesses? I am trying to figure out, out of 100 businesses you did not get 1 !
I did made i finished website for like 20-40+ websites. Mobile. Send them the link(to a demo version of how it would look", and "salesletter"..

I contacted little over 100, had a pro website..
proatmobile.com - Closed it down after a week.

I am not getting 1 out of every 100 client..
Thats like getting 1 out of every 100 girls.. you approche

I dont like that statistics but thats only me

One of my friend have a "big" iphone reperation company, he has a hard time getting clients online, but offline, and mouth to mouth has been the key to hes succes. If i took that approche, i agree, things would maybe look different..

But its hard to sell to someone who dont know they need it, i like to find what people need, and then they buy from me..

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Sounds more like Steffan's doing market research and trying to find out if there is a need for the product.

So IMO if (big if) Steffan has a good script, a good offer and a targeted list, a week is plenty of time to find out if there's a substantial market for a product.

BUT at this point I have a hard time believing there isn't a good market for mobile sites in substantial markets (cities).
1 you dont need a list. 2. The offer dont need to be good, it can also be Free.
Why big if?

Every man can earn money he's way there is no blueprint to succes.. Hard work is not even the blueprint.. Sometimes you are just lucky..

How many % of millionaires have an email list? 0,10%-0,50%.. Yeah the list most be the key..

If you are doing IM and need scripts, you should spend the 50 hours it take to learn to program, its worth it..

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Sounds like a good strategy. Let us know how it is working out for you this year!
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