In Truth, Has Anyone Made Money Selling Mobile Sites to Offline Clients?

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Hello everyone,

I just bought a well known mobile site creating software, Mobi-o-Matic, which I intend to use in order to create mobile sites for offline businesses. Of course, with my luck, the software will either turn out to be impossible to figure out without a degree from MIT, or the mobile sites I create with it will be of inferior quality - as compared to what others who are experienced in this field can turn out.

So, some of the things that I'm wondering, and your insights into them would be very welcome, are, is it still possible to make money creating these mobile sites, or has this all been taken over and saturated by more experienced factions - meaning web and graphic designers?

Also, if there's still an outside chance that, even at this juncture, I could venture into the field and sell some of these, is Mobi-o-Matic a good weapon of choice for this task? On the surface, it appears to be easy to figure out, almost push button easy, without any coding knowledge required (and, this is a vital feature for me). But, I could be all wrong about it. Any input about this software specifically, good or bad?

Thanks for any help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    I don't do it at all but have met many people who do quite well doing it! Not sure it's as scalable as other models, but it's absolutely a feasible model! Don't know anything about the mobi-o-matic though
    • Profile picture of the author MobileMarketingMogul
      You should be able to sell mobile websites, just start small and approach local businesses or people you know to start with and show them what their competitors are doing
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Kenster,

      Many thanks for taking the time to reply to my query with your advice.

      Jorge
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      I don't do it at all but have met many people who do quite well doing it! Not sure it's as scalable as other models, but it's absolutely a feasible model! Don't know anything about the mobi-o-matic though
  • Profile picture of the author steffanmax
    i tried, i had a prof website (trust me)

    I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

    Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..

    I did not make a single dime, not saying their is no money there, because where their are a market there are money..

    But i will never do that again, i spend a month not earning shit..

    Most other business i have tried, i have made a little amount..

    But this was a walk in a desert..
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Hello steffanmax,

      Your version of this is discouraging, to say the least. But, I thank you for giving me the other side of the coin. Maybe, you did not have good luck because of your location, not than I know where you reside, may not be a heavily populated area, and that there aren't that many potential clients there?

      Originally Posted by steffanmax View Post

      i tried, i had a prof website (trust me)

      I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

      Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..

      I did not make a single dime, not saying their is no money there, because where their are a market there are money..

      But i will never do that again, i spend a month not earning shit..

      Most other business i have tried, i have made a little amount..

      But this was a walk in a desert..
    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by steffanmax View Post

      i tried, i had a prof website (trust me)

      I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

      Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..

      I did not make a single dime, not saying their is no money there, because where their are a market there are money..

      But i will never do that again, i spend a month not earning shit..

      Most other business i have tried, i have made a little amount..

      But this was a walk in a desert..
      One of the quickest ways to fail in this business and any is to do exactly what you did. You approached 100 businesses and then just gave up?

      Why waste all that hard work? The reality is most people do what you did and just give up when things get a little tough or don't work right away.

      I would say get straight back on the horse and keep going. If you are not getting the results you want then take a step back and look at things. The chances are it's something you are doing or could be doing better that is causing the non-existent response rate.

      So test and tweak things and you will get there. But if you give up the only thing you guarantee is that you will make no sales.
    • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
      Originally Posted by steffanmax View Post

      I contacted over 100 local business, maybe 10-20 with an pre-made post website..

      Like -> Hi i saw your website and visited your resturant -> i made this pre-made -> are you interested..
      I think trying to sell mobile websites, or anything for that matter, like this is a mistake when business owners don't really know how they can BENEFIT from a mobile website.

      Sure, if you cold call a few hundred people you may get a few that happen to have a clue what they are and how they can benefit from them, but most business owners don't care about the technology - they just want more customers or diners in their seats, and you need to be upfront with What's In It For Them and help educate them to the benefits a mobile website can provide.
  • Profile picture of the author davehayes
    The Short answer is no, I havn't gone anywhere near this area, as I don't Consider it my strength

    Applied Education is the difference
  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    Mobile is exploding as shown here: and the market is going to be MASSIVE.

    But for now its still in its infancy like any other new advertising format. It takes a while for business owners to figure out how valuable it is. Its just like selling websites was when the internet started exploding.

    I'm just getting started and so far, I've sent out 2 mockups to businesses I already have a relationship with (via e-mail) and sold 1 - 13 page mobile site for $500. Just a fluke? Maybe but I think the key is finding the right prospects....businesses that could really benefit like restaurants, locksmiths, etc.

    And personally, I'm only going after ones that are already spending money on advertising/marketing and are doing well. So if I drive by a restaurant and its busy on Tuesday evening and I see they are already advertising and have a nice site, etc. they are a prime prospect.
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Thanks you PaulintheSticks,

      What you're sharing here gives me sufficient confidence and impetus to look upon this business as more than just a "maybe," and more like what I want to make it: an actual, workable, profitable business model. Many thanks to you.
      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      Mobile is exploding as shown here: The Mobile Movement: Understanding Smartphone Consumers - YouTube and the market is going to be MASSIVE.

      But for now its still in its infancy like any other new advertising format. It takes a while for business owners to figure out how valuable it is. Its just like selling websites was when the internet started exploding.

      I'm just getting started and so far, I've sent out 2 mockups to businesses I already have a relationship with (via e-mail) and sold 1 - 13 page mobile site for $500. Just a fluke? Maybe but I think the key is finding the right prospects....businesses that could really benefit like restaurants, locksmiths, etc.

      And personally, I'm only going after ones that are already spending money on advertising/marketing and are doing well. So if I drive by a restaurant and its busy on Tuesday evening and I see they are already advertising and have a nice site, etc. they are a prime prospect.
    • Profile picture of the author alritch.merin
      This is a very informative and inspiring post. Thank you very much for this.

      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      Mobile is exploding as shown here: The Mobile Movement: Understanding Smartphone Consumers - YouTube and the market is going to be MASSIVE.

      But for now its still in its infancy like any other new advertising format. It takes a while for business owners to figure out how valuable it is. Its just like selling websites was when the internet started exploding.

      I'm just getting started and so far, I've sent out 2 mockups to businesses I already have a relationship with (via e-mail) and sold 1 - 13 page mobile site for $500. Just a fluke? Maybe but I think the key is finding the right prospects....businesses that could really benefit like restaurants, locksmiths, etc.

      And personally, I'm only going after ones that are already spending money on advertising/marketing and are doing well. So if I drive by a restaurant and its busy on Tuesday evening and I see they are already advertising and have a nice site, etc. they are a prime prospect.
  • Profile picture of the author Social Guy
    Yes, last year I started my business and started with mobile sites/social media, I then moved to responsive sites (bigger clients, 'bigger needs'). My company is a two men show now (third person is coming into play). My focus for 2013 will be back to mobile sites. (in combination with the responsive sites we are building now) The third person who will be working with us will be 100% mobile focused (design/building)
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Thanks Social Guy,

      I'm not sure what a responsive site is, but what you're telling us about how things are going for you with the mobile sites business is very inspirational, at least from my end.

      You're not only making this work for you, but are obviously doing well. Much luck to you.
      Originally Posted by Social Guy View Post

      Yes, last year I started my business and started with mobile sites/social media, I then moved to responsive sites (bigger clients, 'bigger needs'). My company is a two men show now (third person is coming into play). My focus for 2013 will be back to mobile sites. (in combination with the responsive sites we are building now) The third person who will be working with us will be 100% mobile focused (design/building)
    • Profile picture of the author tim205
      Sounds like a good strategy. Let us know how it is working out for you this year!
  • Profile picture of the author Jarrod
    Answer to initial question: In truth, yes I have.

    Reply to above post by steffanmax and anyone who may have been discouraged by the outlook it offers:

    My experience was not all too different. Contacted well over 100 businesses in November, sold literally one, and for dirt cheap. The got a couple more in December. Then a few more in January. Now referrals are starting to come in as well.

    Am I banking big time? Heck no, but each month is better than the last!

    By the end of 2013 over 50% of all web traffic will be mobile. There is money to be made and I will get my chunk of it!!!
  • Profile picture of the author sirox
    I'll chip in here with some different view that has been largely ignored when it comes to marketing to "offline" clients, be it selling mobile sites, or in the early days, selling websites/designs, or social media, or any other services.

    And that is that you must treat it, set it up, and operate it as a local business yourself.

    You need a local presence. You need a sales person to go out and get orders, you need a guy/gal to actually full the orders (i.e. making the sites), and then you need a guy/gal to do the support.

    You will most likely fail if you:

    1) Think you can do all these by yourself.
    2) Think you will make enough money fast
    3) Not prepared to stick it out for at least a good amount of time for the local businesses to take notice, while making no money
    4) Think your "making mobile sites for local businesses" business is no different than any other local business, such as a restaurant, a shop, or a local dentist.

    So, before you jump into any such business servicing local clients/businesses, you should use the above as your "yardstick" to see if you are going to make it or not.

    The bottom line, you must be prepared, both mentally and financially, for a good stretch of dry spell, i.e. working hard without income, before your "own" local business can take off.

    You can certainly shorten this dry spell by being well-funded to afford hiring good face-to-face salesperson(s) (if you are not one yourself) going at it aggressively, persistently.

    Just like any other local businesses you plan to make money from, set up yours like one first.

    So, are you an online marketer or are you an offline business owner?

    IMHO, you can't be both at the same time as a one man operation.
  • Profile picture of the author cshilling22
    Mobile websites are an easy sell if you can get in front of the decision maker with a mock-up and have a reasonable price. Here is your website on a phone now, here is what it could be. This is a powerful demonstration. I usually use a QR code as well to pull it up so they can see more possibilities. I am selling the website but I really want to sell them on all of the ways my company can help their business make more money. That is how you build long-term success and loyal clients.
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Since you make it sound so easy, would you be able to share with us what types of businesses, in particular, you are successfully targeting with this approach? Are you going after dentists, car dealers, real estate pros, etc.,?

      Jorge
      Originally Posted by cshilling22 View Post

      Mobile websites are an easy sell if you can get in front of the decision maker with a mock-up and have a reasonable price. Here is your website on a phone now, here is what it could be. This is a powerful demonstration. I usually use a QR code as well to pull it up so they can see more possibilities. I am selling the website but I really want to sell them on all of the ways my company can help their business make more money. That is how you build long-term success and loyal clients.
  • Profile picture of the author mgoddo
    I sell at least one a month ... Not bad. I usually sell them for around $600 to $700.

    I don't use any software to make them tho, all custom
    • Profile picture of the author WealthPro2
      Originally Posted by mgoddo View Post

      I sell at least one a month ... Not bad. I usually sell them for around $600 to $700.

      I don't use any software to make them tho, all custom
      Hi mgoddo

      Can you please share with us how you develop these mobile site without using any software?
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      Thanks for your input. You provide me with hope and encouragement. You're right pulling down $600 - $700 each is "not bad" at all.

      Unfortunately for me, I'm not skilled enough to be able to create them from scratch as you're able, I'll have to stick to using software, but you prove that there's a market out there for them.

      Jorge
      Originally Posted by mgoddo View Post

      I sell at least one a month ... Not bad. I usually sell them for around $600 to $700.

      I don't use any software to make them tho, all custom
  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    This forum makes it seem a lot easier than it actually is. However, when there is a will, there is a way.
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      I'm sorry, Tyler, forgive my ignorance. Can you elaborate on your comment?

      Are you saying that, based on your own experience in this field, you think that some of the respondents to this thread on this Forum make things sound easier than you have personally found things to be marketing mobile sites?

      Or, is your statement your own general opinion?

      Jorge
      Originally Posted by Tyler S View Post

      This forum makes it seem a lot easier than it actually is. However, when there is a will, there is a way.
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Jorge,

    Please try and use the 'Multiquote' feature when replying to a number of posts at the same time. It makes it easier for everyone. That way you only need one post to reply rather than replying to every post separately.
    • Profile picture of the author jorgemv
      My apologies to you WillR and to everyone else; I didn't even know what the Multiquote function was for.

      Unfortunately, now that you brought it to my attention, I don't seem to be able to use it. I hit the Multiquote link and nothing happens. What am I supposed to do before clicking on it for it to work?
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Jorge,

      Please try and use the 'Multiquote' feature when replying to a number of posts at the same time. It makes it easier for everyone. That way you only need one post to reply rather than replying to every post separately.
  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    I've actually had more success by building, or remaking, a businesses existing website and then providing a mobile optimized version of the site as part of the package. I think every business needs a mobile website, especially restaurants, but they just don't seem to get it yet like they should when presented with that alone.

    I have a restaurant client that gets 30% of its traffic to the mobile site. I think that is pretty standard for a restaurant, and I could see that easily going to 50% this year. I met with that client yesterday and the owner thanked me over and over for helping to explode their business over the last 2 years. Granted, the mobile site is just one thing I've done for them, but it is definitely a part of the whole equation.

    If you are having trouble selling just the mobile site, then try adding another service that adds value - like SMS list building or email opt in, or whatever. From my experience, you have to prove yourself over a period of time, but once you do, they don't question your judgement at all. Make them more money in any way you can and they don't question the next idea you have.
  • Profile picture of the author chanellno1
    I would like to chip in. I've been focusing on mobile for a while now and what I have found is it's much easier to sell to clients I already have some sort of working relationship with.

    Also, I like to create a mock-up of a mobile friendly version of their website first and present that to them. That seems to work best for me.

    Thus far, I have not had any success using the emailing strategies presenting in most of the WSO's I've purchased. I have only gained one new client this way, but I was actually marketing social media optimization. That got the response, and when I touched base, I mentioned mobile as well and ended up landing that deal.

    I think you will have more success with mobile with a Face-to-face approach vs. email. I have generated a lot of interests / and deals that way too. Since, I'm phone shy.. I think it's possible, but not my cup of tea.

    There is a lot of money to be made in mobile whether you code the sites yourself or use software. I build my sites both ways. But I agree, it's not as easy as a lot of the WSO's marketed on this forum make it seem. It takes consistent work and a plan. Having a sales person is a great idea if you have the budget or can get them to work on commission.
  • Profile picture of the author satriasaka
    discounts keyword is good for mobile
  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Hello,

    The truth is, yes you can make money...

    The person who tried 100 times and gave up I don't blame you. Might not be a good thing in your area just yet.

    My sister is a Visalus Rep it is a Weight loss niche, she got her FREE BMW in about 4 months. I'm also a Vi Rep and in my area no one has money and we are not near any beaches and a winter snow state.... she is in Sunny Florida people go to the beaches they want to look good... She has moved to a state that has winter and no beaches it took a nose dive.

    One place it was easy to sign people up, one place it is not so easy.

    Depends on your location and the timing of things.

    I'm in a small town but have made about 5 PC websites... I know 3 business right now that does not want a website at all... I offered FREE sites to them no charge ever and they just don't want one.

    We are in the top 6 of unemployed Rates people just don't have money... the house on my left 265,000.00 Foreclosed SOLD for 127,000. The house on the right side of me 79,000. Foreclosed SOLD for 16,000.

    I have talked to about 5 business and nothing besides I will think about it.

    I have ran into many many people who don't even know who their web host is or they don't even own their own domain name... some company set it all up years ago or what ever and have no clue how to get to it to have something changed or updated.

    What works for one does not mean it will work for you. Think about that next time you want to buy a WSO.

    Richard Dean
  • Profile picture of the author Social Guy
    If you have a good product and you know how to tell the client how they can benefit from it you can make money... The most important thing to do first is PRE-QUALIFY YOUR CLIENT BEFORE YOU WALK/PHONE/MAIL IN!

    I will never visit a client who does not have a website/advertise. My perfect client is somebody who already has an web presence for a year of five (at least). They already worked with IM people. If the just sold them a website changes are they are not very happy with their current IM guy..

    I'm my own boss now for a little more than a year and this has worked out good for me, last year I sold some clients a mobile website + social media plan, they are so happy with my work that I can now build a complete new website for them (responsive), the mobile website was €239,- the new website will be €2.000,- I have more examples like that and have learned a lot from Willr, Jay Moreno, John Durham and a lot of other guys in the mobile/offline marketing discussions forum!

    Pre qualify, mind-set, enthusiasm and some good tools/products will get you a good start!
  • Profile picture of the author HammerNiko
    I sell 50+ mobi sites a week with the same as Ahebo.com . If you need the template Skype me at hammer.web.solutions . This market is huge and growing so we as warriors MUST profit from it. GL !
    • Profile picture of the author ronr
      :rolleyes:

      Originally Posted by HammerNiko View Post

      I sell 50+ mobi sites a week with the same as Ahebo.com . If you need the template Skype me at hammer.web.solutions . This market is huge and growing so we as warriors MUST profit from it. GL !
  • Profile picture of the author HammerNiko
    Also I have mobile sites builder plugin so contact me !
  • Profile picture of the author wendigital13
    This is a very interesting topic. I have a few colleagues that have actually seen results but just not appearing to be substantial to me.
  • Profile picture of the author 4webmaster
    It does work I even signed a contract yesterday for $1350 plus $120 monthly but it wasn't just mobile site. It was for a website redesign and a mobile site.

    Here is a short story: I saw in a magazine a travel agency biz ad (half page) so they might have money for advertising. They didn't even put a website link on it but just an email adress.
    I google their site and finally found it on top of Google. It was real amateurism web design, couldn't believe myself.
    Then at bottom there was the footer link powered by ..nameofcompanydesign.com I check that company and it land on those parked pages with full of adsense ads.
    I suppose thet this web design company have been out of business since months but the travel agency don't even know this.

    I email the travel agency with something like this: I've visit your site and to be honest didn't find any info about what I was looking for, your website looks bad but I can help you with a website redesign, I also visit the link at footer ....

    Next day I get an email from their travel agent, she replied me that she will forward my message to the manager. Later, I receive an email from the manager for an appointment. Before I went to that appointment I work up to 1:30 AM to get a mockup of website and mobile site ready.
    And the day of our meeting, contract was signed.
    • Profile picture of the author rmx
      I've had similar experiences.

      I don't want be negative because you had a good experience but in some ways it just reinforces that it's easier to sell regular websites (that includes a mobile site) than it is to sell mobile websites to businesses that already have websites. Of course you can sell mobile sites by themselves but in truth most business owners either don't understand them, can't see a need for them or see a need but are still reluctant to pay for "another website" when they don't think their main website is helping them.

      If you are a real sales person you can do it, but it's not just as easy as showing how their website looks on a mobile phone and how it could look with a mobile version.

      It still takes salesmanship and skill and often they will ask about a regular website instead. That's not a bad thing, just often the reality in my experience.

      RMX


      Originally Posted by 4webmaster View Post

      It does work I even signed a contract yesterday for $1350 plus $120 monthly but it wasn't just mobile site. It was for a website redesign and a mobile site.

      Here is a short story: I saw in a magazine a travel agency biz ad (half page) so they might have money for advertising. They didn't even put a website link on it but just an email adress.
      I google their site and finally found it on top of Google. It was real amateurism web design, couldn't believe myself.
      Then at bottom there was the footer link powered by ..nameofcompanydesign.com I check that company and it land on those parked pages with full of adsense ads.
      I suppose thet this web design company have been out of business since months but the travel agency don't even know this.

      I email the travel agency with something like this: I've visit your site and to be honest didn't find any info about what I was looking for, your website looks bad but I can help you with a website redesign, I also visit the link at footer ....

      Next day I get an email from their travel agent, she replied me that she will forward my message to the manager. Later, I receive an email from the manager for an appointment. Before I went to that appointment I work up to 1:30 AM to get a mockup of website and mobile site ready.
      And the day of our meeting, contract was signed.

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