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Unread 31st May 2013, 12:47 AM   #1
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I'm not sure if I put that correctly or not. But I have many years of working in direct sales/home party companies. I want to start a service providing mobile websites for consultants that have a Company page, but it's not optimized for mobile. Problem is, there is no way to do a redirect unless it can be added in the little html personalization section most of them have. No way to get into the actual back end of their site.

I've thought about creating a landing page for them, so that they would promote that page. Then if their customer is using mobile, they would be redirected. But if they were a regular customer they could just click thru to the main page. I have a reseller account, so could provide an entire package.

Or would it work to have it not even be a landing page (as such) but a page that automatically forwards the person based on using mobile or not.

Any ideas, suggestions would be much appreciated!

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Can you point to a sample and indicate which section can be personalized?
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Yes thanks! My best girlfriend sells Avon, and this is her company site:

AVON Representative PATTY ZASLOFF serving the Spring Hill, FL area

The entire center section of the main page below the big graphic is editable by her.

She can also change her contact info in the upper right corner.

Most of these sites will have an "about me" type page and you can use html if you want.

Most of the redirect info says you have to put the code in the <head></head> section but that is not something that MOST direct sellers can access.

Thanks for any help!
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Originally Posted by mzwizard View Post

Yes thanks! My best girlfriend sells Avon, and this is her company site:

AVON Representative PATTY ZASLOFF serving the Spring Hill, FL area

The entire center section of the main page below the big graphic is editable by her.

She can also change her contact info in the upper right corner.

Most of these sites will have an "about me" type page and you can use html if you want.

Most of the redirect info says you have to put the code in the <head></head> section but that is not something that MOST direct sellers can access.

Thanks for any help!
Hi Lorian,

If your friend has no access to the main site (her Avon rep site) where she could place a mobile redirect script, then her best bet is to get a domain name for herself, host it on her own account, and make its index file redirect users based on their viewing device (or user-agent).

If the user is on a desktop/laptop he or she will be redirected to her Avon rep site (the one she currently uses), if they're on a smart phone, they would be redirected to a mobile version of the site. The mobile version will need to be created and hosted under her new domain in a sub-directory such as "m".

Of course, the new website address (ie, the new domain) will need to become the one that gets marketed to potential clients.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks! That's what I was thinking. She has her own domain that she promotes and at this point redirects to the company site - AvonIsAwesome.com

So I could just setup a blank page with the redirects and it would decide which one to forward the viewer too? So they would never see that page?

or make a landing page that also forwards but would be seen in case of the redirect not working for some reason?

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or make a landing page that also forwards but would be seen in case of the redirect not working for some reason?

Lorian
Yes, that's a pretty good idea - the landing page being the last option in the "if"statement.

Also, the landing page could just be an iFrame of the current site (http://pattyz.avonrepresentative.com), this way, if all fails, the viewer will just be presented with http://pattyz.avonrepresentative.com without the need for any extra, unnecessary clicks on their end.


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Yes, that's a pretty good idea - the landing page being the last option in the "if"statement.
On second thought, I'm not sure how a third option could easily be incorporated here.

The way I do mobile redirects is via the use of user-agents (this would also apply if the redirect was done using device screen size, which I think is precarious at best).

The way a redirect script works is as follows:

if viewer is on a user-agent that is that of a mobile device, then redirect viewer to mobile site; otherwise, present viewer with standard (non-mobile) site.

I can't think of a simple way to add a third option; ie, if redirect doesn't work at all as far as sending viewer to either versions, then present user with this - this being a landing page.

So, to cover all bases (meaning if the redirect doesn't work for whatever reason) and keep it simple, just make the redirect script act as follows:

if viewer is on a user-agent that is that of a mobile device, then redirect viewer to mobile site; otherwise, present viewer with AvonIsAwesome.com, which would consist of an iFame of http://pattyz.avonrepresentative.com.

Worst case scenario, the script doesn't pick up the user-agent of a mobile device and simply shows the AvonIsAwesome.com site. Just make the mobile site reside in AvonIsAwesome.com/m, or any other sub-directory.

By doing it this way, you're essentially alleviating the need to send the viewer directly to http://pattyz.avonrepresentative.com, which isn't really necessary in this instance.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks John...

One question...where do I PUT the script since I don't have access to the <head> area?
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The script would go in the index file of AvonIsAwesome.com... I'm assuming that's her domain and her hosting account; she should be free to put whatever she'd like on its index file.

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Duh.....no kidding. Cute but not too smart here sometimes. Of course she (and I) have total access to her actual domain. Thanks SO much to everyone for your help!
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Duh.....no kidding. Cute but not too smart here sometimes. Of course she (and I) have total access to her actual domain. Thanks SO much to everyone for your help!
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Cute but not too smart here sometimes. Of course she (and I) have total access to her actual domain.
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where do I PUT the script since I don't have access to the <head> area?
Yes, you're the genius.

"Your friend" is sure to get the help she's looking for with your attitude.

Way to be rude to the one person helping you, ingrate.

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OMG, I totally did NOT mean that about the folks helping me!

I meant it about ME! That was somehting I should have realized and not asked such a stupid question.

I'm SO SORRY....please forgive me....the last thing I wanted to do was to rude everyone out!

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Damn..now that I reread what I wrote it definitely sounded rude as hell.

I'm totally embarrassed, and feel like a total horse's ass.

I'm so sorry.
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Don't worry about it, it's a simple misunderstanding... It happens in forums. All good and I wish you guys the best of luck.

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Is there such a thing as a "bidirectional redirect"? Still working on a way to create mobile sites for the direct sellers that are using the main company site. My friend that sells avon has a domain name that she redirects to the company site. So I figure I could create a landing page that immediately redirects based on device.

if mobile I want it to redirect to the mobile site, but if desktop (or tablet I guess) I want it to redirect to the consultant's company page.

Is that possible?
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