what your greatest conspiracy you believe in?

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There are so many conspiracy theories out there which one do you actually believe in? For me it has to be JFK assignation. I truley believe that a shadow government wanted to see Kennedy dead because they fear him. Fear that he would do things his way and not being their puppet.

The shadow government wanted a cold war so they could have a reason to build up their resources and shady deals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by oWEN tEBB View Post

    For me it has to be JFK assignation.
    Do you mean with Marilyn Monroe, or with others? He had rather a lot of assignations, I heard. (I don't know how Jackie could tolerate it. )

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    • Profile picture of the author peterj
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Do you mean with Marilyn Monroe, or with others? He had rather a lot of assignations, I heard. (I don't know how Jackie could tolerate it. )

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      He had a lot of assignations but only one assasination.

      For me it's the Illuminati, the buggers are everywhere, behind everything.

      They're behind you right now. Turn around real quick and you might catch a glimpse.

      And there's a few frequently frequenting the OTF.
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    I don't believe any conspiracy theory. Everything I believe is documented fact.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I don't believe any conspiracy theory. Everything I believe is documented fact.
      I believed a few conspiracy theories. One was considered lunacy by nearly everyone I spoke with. It is now acknowledged fact, and people only doubt HOW far it goes. MANY ended up just that way. One I believed for over a decade, especially since if it weren't true, detractors would be lying about OTHER things. IT was acknowledged as true only this week. GEE, SOME people doubt even though I saw like live shows proving them, and some are on youtube!

      SERIOUSLY guys, conspiracies happen ALL the time! EVEN when they are televised, and people watch them INTENTLY, they seem to miss key parts that show rules are being broken for some powermongers agenda, and how laws are being broken left and right.

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        I believed a few conspiracy theories. One was considered lunacy by nearly everyone I spoke with. It is now acknowledged fact, and people only doubt HOW far it goes. MANY ended up just that way. One I believed for over a decade, especially since if it weren't true, detractors would be lying about OTHER things. IT was acknowledged as true only this week. GEE, SOME people doubt even though I saw like live shows proving them, and some are on youtube!

        SERIOUSLY guys, conspiracies happen ALL the time! EVEN when they are televised, and people watch them INTENTLY, they seem to miss key parts that show rules are being broken for some powermongers agenda, and how laws are being broken left and right.

        Steve
        Proven just this week? I'm trying to think of what the heck that could be. If you're looking not to turn this thread into a rage fest - can you at least pm me which issue that is?
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Hmmm, keeping out of this one!

          And they, (ESA) have conclusively proven recently that one of Mars moons Phobos, is hollow.

          There are other theorys, but documented proof is yet to surface!

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by oWEN tEBB View Post

    There are so many conspiracy theories out there which one do you actually believe in? For me it has to be JFK assignation. I truley believe that a shadow government wanted to see Kennedy dead because they fear him. Fear that he would do things his way and not being their puppet.

    The shadow government wanted a cold war so they could have a reason to build up their resources and shady deals.
    Frankly, I DOUBT JFK was planning to do some of the things he was alleged to be planning. He DID, however, seem to give a nod to a couple. Had he done so, it would have endangered a lot of the TRUE conspiracies today. ONE is PROVEN to some degree, There are about maybe 5 sub theories. ANOTHER one is PROVEN an average of at least once a year! But there is one huge piece of evidence that has Germany scratching their heads and OPENLY accusing the US of ANOTHER conspiracy!

    HEY, someone took all the obviously TRUE parts to the conspiracy, and added maybe a couple that are certainly true in spirit, but maybe not literally. They wrapped it up in a nice story, and created an entertaining video. Sit back and ENJOY:


    BTW calling this "the American dream" is a part of ANOTHER conspiracy!

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  • Profile picture of the author HN
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    Let's define the conspiracy theory first...

    I find pretty entertaining what Keir Cutler says about conspiracy in this video starting from the 10th minute.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by HN View Post

      Let's define the conspiracy theory first...
      Easy. "Conspiracy theory" is the phrase people have been slip programmed to start screaming like air raid sirens when someone starts studying issues and finding correlations between powerful people and their actions regarding that issue. It's been used to make others feel silly if they listen to evidence, and to feel the person with the info is presumably nuts, therefore negating any possibility of serious debate or research that may uncover a very bona fide issue.
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    EBOLA!!!

    not yet so popular, but wait when someone get filthy rich and half world dies.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by dadaas View Post

      EBOLA!!!

      not yet so popular, but wait when someone get filthy rich and half world dies.
      Are you saying that there is a way to get filthy rich from Ebola...and only half the world has to die?

      I'm listening.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Conspiracy is basically about a group of people that decide to do something, generally partially secret, and often considered nefarious. Google says:

    a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
    the action of plotting or conspiring.

    Theory is an idea that the person considers plausible but has not yet been tested.

    Wikipedia says: Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking.

    So are there conspiracies? YEP! Are theories all false? OF COURSE NOT! SOME are even assumed to be FACT! The THEORY of EVOLUTION, for example, is considered to be fact even though it is far from it. NOBODY has EVER seen a true mammal evolve to lay an egg. NOBODY has EVER seen an egg legger evolve to have a live birth. Nobody has ever seen an animal change to be something massively different. Mutations happen all the time and most are either meaningless or harmful.

    Anyway, think about it! That video spoke of one conspiracy with thomas jefferson. Well, there WERE two others, that are effectively one.

    You see, some people figured that a group of people wanted to overthrow the country. The conspiracy EVEN said they dressed up like "american indians", to do what some might have considered a stupid little meaningless prank at the time! MAN, it even came to have a funny name. And nobody could prove it, so they got away with it. YEAH, the group wrote a manifesto of sorts. And YEAH, they overthrew the country! Apparently they WERE among those that looked like indians. The event was "the boston tea party" The new country came to be known as the USA. The manifesto is the constitution.

    Of course, we could talk about ANOTHER conspiracy! For DECADES, the BIGGEST argument ANYONE had against it was "Well, the government could never keep a secret!" MY retort to that has ALWAYS been the same! OF COURSE THEY CAN! THEY HAVE! But EVEN if you were 100% right, the FACT that such a "theory" exists shows they DIDN'T IN THIS CASE! SO, you see that the argument is illogical. It would be like arguing with me that it isn't daytime yet, because the sun shines during the day, while you shield your eyes from the bright noon daylight.

    OK, a group of people thought the government had a secret plot of land. They even had a special name for it. ON that special plot of land, they supposedly had a super secret militarized base that tested aircraft that were beyond current technology, and considered to be alien... THEN, it devolves into ANOTHER theory, that is still considered to be only a theory.

    Well, all the crazy rumors of that place, except the alien stuff, are ESTABLISHED FACT now! The government has owned up to it. There have been LAW SUITS! Clinton passed a law codifying that they could NOT be sued, due to the top secret nature. SHOWS, including montels, have gone to see the base and how it is protected. They WILL SHOOT YOU to prevent you from getting close. They shut down a nearby mountain used to observe some aircraft. THEY apparently generally call it Groom Lake, so they can identify it easily in a non descript way, but it IS also called area 51.

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    BTW they are now claiming the UN created ebola to kill africans. YEAH, there IS a conspiracy, and it is FACT! African custom, at least in some areas, is for the family to have a kind of wake and prepare and show the body for a while. They ALSO don't embalm, etc.... So any disease, like ebola, can easily spread. This disease has been known about in the US for over 30 years! It is NOT new! It predates any real activity on agenda 21!

    ALSO, news for the conspiracy theorists on this theory. The UN plan would be primarily against whites and most asians. IRONIC, I know, but if you look at most of the reasons they give, they haven't historically fit africa.

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    Yep definitely JFK was done in by the warmongers in the brass and the spooks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I don't believe in conspiracy theories. Everything I believe in...is a fact. A bona fide, certified, proven fact.

      For example, one day I was talking to her, and SHE wasn't even listening to what had happened IN THAT other place. You would THINK that it was true, but it wasn't. And everywhere there is evidence of the other thing.

      But here is where it gets INTERESTING! One guy wasn't sure about it, but we found out later that it was TRUE!! You can't just IGNORE the facts! It isn't even close.

      I doubt that it was even something like that. At least that's what was said AT FIRST.
      There are no "CONSPIRACY THEORIES"...because they are fact. How ELSE would you explain it? There is no WAY!

      You MAY NOT believe it, but it's TRUE. Quantum Physics tells us that if it is imagined, it's true. So anything I say is real. At least not yet. So we'll see it for what it is.
      According to MONSANTO, everything is radiant, but the gnomes can't figure it out, and so there you have it. I guess that's Big Pharma for you.

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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I don't believe in conspiracy theories. Everything I believe in...is a fact. A bona fide, certified, proven fact.

        For example, one day I was talking to her, and SHE wasn't even listening to what had happened IN THAT other place. You would THINK that it was true, but it wasn't. And everywhere there is evidence of the other thing.

        But here is where it gets INTERESTING! One guy wasn't sure about it, but we found out later that it was TRUE!! You can't just IGNORE the facts! It isn't even close.

        I doubt that it was even something like that. At least that's what was said AT FIRST.
        There are no "CONSPIRACY THEORIES"...because they are fact. How ELSE would you explain it? There is no WAY!

        You MAY NOT believe it, but it's TRUE. Quantum Physics tells us that if it is imagined, it's true. So anything I say is real. At least not yet. So we'll see it for what it is.
        According to MONSANTO, everything is radiant, but the gnomes can't figure it out, and so there you have it. I guess that's Big Pharma for you.

        I dressed myself this morning.
        I have DONE the same thing before, many times! They have said otherwise, but they IGNORE what the truth is!! They LIE, and I wish I could say more. When I was 7 years old, the same things were being done DURING school hours!! I predicted all this YEARS ago when I said we couldn't go on much longer before all those who are behind this ate LUNCH while still holding the bag! Yet, people didn't listen to me and I was made to SIT in the CORNER of that class!! People could call THAT a conspiracy, but who would believe a BAG could be such a SECRET? Man, I wish I was KING!

        I, myself included, have seen it all happen, HUNDREDS of times, while not even being around to witness! It's TRUE! Some may say, how can that be? They LIE! It's going on all over the WORLD, now, even before THEY, and even some others, acknowledge where this first originated!!! Were they right? YEP!!! Can it be STOPPED? NOPE! Can there be another BAG? OF COURSE THERE CAN! Bags are made of paper. That's WHY they call them PAPER BAGS!!!

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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          I have DONE the same thing before, many times! They have said otherwise, but they IGNORE what the truth is!! They LIE, and I wish I could say more. When I was 7 years old, the same things were being done DURING school hours!! I predicted all this YEARS ago when I said we couldn't go on much longer before all those who are behind this ate LUNCH while still holding the bag! Yet, people didn't listen to me and I was made to SIT in the CORNER of that class!! People could call THAT a conspiracy, but who would believe a BAG could be such a SECRET? Man, I wish I was KING!

          I, myself included, have seen it all happen, HUNDREDS of times, while not even being around to witness! It's TRUE! Some may say, how can that be? They LIE! It's going on all over the WORLD, now, even before THEY, and even some others, acknowledge where this first originated!!! Were they right? YEP!!! Can it be STOPPED? NOPE! Can there be another BAG? OF COURSE THERE CAN! Bags are made of paper. That's WHY they call them PAPER BAGS!!!

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    • Profile picture of the author Midnight Oil
      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Yep definitely JFK was done in by the warmongers in the brass and the spooks.
      Wrong. It was Erik Lehnsherr. He was briefly kept imprisoned under the Pentagon for his crime.

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