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Just Like Pulling Teeth!!!!

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Hi, had some depressing news today, that l have to have one of my back, top teeth pulled!

This was due to a skin infection l had on both my hands a year ago, (that went into that area).

It also seems that Root Canals, can create more problems than they fix, (a strong connection to Cancer being the main one).

So, just wondering on your thoughts and experiences?

Is tooth extraction really necessary, or are there other more natural ways to fix the tooth?

Or to git rid of the infection!


Some parts of that tooth are already broken off, but l suppose that l can live with that, but the mild pain, is something l don't want to live with!

But getting it pulled, and then realising later on, that putting raw Garlic on it for a while could have turned it around, without the pulling part?


Appreciate some advise. And all the rest are healthy, apart from this one.

And it is so far back, l can't be seen when smiling, which is good, l don't have a spare $5000 to replace the tooth with another one, especially after dealing with subcreatures!


This looks interesting, anyone else tried this?


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Hi Tyler there., I had the exact same problem and it also included the tooth on the right hand side of my front tooth. My dentist told me that I would have to have a tooth implant and on both.I had an infection in both teeth. I made an appointment with the endodontist for a week later. I got us some websites from England since I do use Homeopathy there.the first thing I did was to slice thin layers of garlic let it sit for 15 minutes and laid it on the infection.I kept it on there for 2 days refreshing it every 3 or 4 hours and the swelling went down. I then took COQ10, astazanthin, astragulis, juiced vegetables, multivitamin with minerals, purified water, I took garlic orally., vit.c. Eat very healthy . The endodontist was freaked out. He said why would the dentist send you to me? when I went back to the dentist he took an xray and said he'd never seen this before the roots were actually growing back onto the bone.I also took olive leaf biocide and grapefruit seed extract also know as GSE.I truly hope this helps you.

  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Root canals can be very expensive and painful and not always completely successful. I was offered that option once and I said just pull the tooth.

    I would recommend getting a second opinion. I had to do that for a more serious problem and, although the problem's seriousness did not change with the second opinion, the cost dramatically dropped.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Root canals can be very expensive and painful and not always completely successful. I was offered that option once and I said just pull the tooth.

      I would recommend getting a second opinion. I had to do that for a more serious problem and, although the problem's seriousness did not change with the second opinion, the cost dramatically dropped.
      Yes, the dentist did say, you can go get a second opinion, before extracting, but l also got an exray, so maybe l should go try the garlic and some kind of affirmations, etc before going to extremes?


      Throw every natural thing at it for the next couple of weeks, and get another xray, then if there is little to no change, then get it pulled?


      What happened after you got it pulled, laurence, where you in so much pain that you had trouble sleeping, or acted like a stroke victum because of the tranquilizer, or looked like Drakulas standin, for the next few hours.

      I would be interested to know!

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Hi, had some depressing news today, that l have to have one of my back, top teeth pulled!
    Sorry to hear it ... and hope it's non-traumatic and that you're better off without it.

    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    It also seems that Root Canals, can create more problems than they fix
    Every tooth has "root canals". They're an anatomical feature. Laymen tend to use the expression "root canal" as an abbreviation of either "root canal filling" or "root canal cleaning" (neither of which, in itself, necessitates extraction of the tooth at all).

    Infection is only one of the common causes for needing that. There are others, too.

    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    So, just wondering on your thoughts and experiences?
    The first word that always comes to mind, for me, in this conext, is "expensive". Dentistry over here seems unbelievably expensive. (There's some available on the National Health Service, too, and that's neither free nor expensive, but my impression is that the "better dentists" are nearly all private ones, whose hourly rates are frightening: they seem to charge a lot more than private MD's/lawyers/comparable professions. They have what seems to me to be a horrible job, though, so maybe they deserve it? As a profession, collectively, throughout "Western" societies they have significantly high suicide-rates, divorce-rates and other problems. Again, significantly more so than MD's.)

    I lost a top, back tooth last week, and will soon lose a bottom back tooth as well (post-radiotherapy bone necrosis - not infection, and I wouldn't be alive at all without having had the treatment that caused this problem as a side-effect, so I'm very badly-placed indeed to complain about it!). "Fortunately" only back teeth that won't show at all, and that are/were of very limited use to me anyway.

    The teeth I'm losing are "wisdom teeth", so I'm becoming more stupid, too.

    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Is tooth extraction really necessary, or are there other more natural ways to fix the tooth?
    I think it depends on what's wrong with them, and what the cause was/is.

    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Appreciate some advise.
    I'm different from you - call me a skepchick but I get my dental information and advice only from people who have been to dental school, just like I take my medical information and advice only from people who have been to medical school.

    Wishing you better quickly and smoothly, Shane!

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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      ...call me a skepchick but I get my dental information and advice only from people who have been to dental school, just like I take my medical information and advice only from people who have been to medical school. .
      Just this once... you can call me a skepchick too. Even though, well, you know.

      But I can't emphasize enough the harm you can cause yourself by clinging to unsubstantiated claims of miracle cures to actual medical problems.

      By all means, try the natural route (if you don't mind garlic breath), but don't do it at the expense of your overall health. Make the appointment for a few weeks out, try your miracle cure, and when (yes, when) it fails, you'll still be in the queue to actually solve the problem.

      This is not quite the same, but let it be a cautionary tale.

      My brother was diagnosed with a horrible form of cancer in February. He was told, in no uncertain terms, that there might be a treatment route. But it was aggressive treatment, and there was no time to spare.

      My brother, not ever being one to let anyone tell him what to do, spent his time, hope and energy aggressively pursuing a cannabis oil treatment first, reserving the option to switch to chemo if the cannabis did not show great promise quickly. He had seen all of the youtube videos, read all the wonderful miracle testimonials, and was convinced he would become the new poster boy for this treatment option.

      He really wanted it to work. And maybe it would have. Except he was dead by the first week of July.

      The only thing that could have saved him, or at least bought him the time to wrap up his affairs and go out on something resembling his terms, would have been to listen to everybody that loved him and begged him to listen to his doctors. Doctors are the ones who read and understand the science.

      Yeah, this is science.

      Go online and try to find a single scientific paper extolling the double-blind tested virtues of garlic for dental infections. If you find it, discuss it as a treatment option with your dentist.

      If not, well, treat it as folklore. It won't likely hurt you, but if it actually helps you then you win (even though it was probably just a placebo).
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      • Profile picture of the author Cali16
        Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

        Just this once... you can call me a skepchick too. Even though, well, you know.
        Well, Jack, you don't look like a skepchick to me... but maybe if you're wearing some pretty pumps (that aren't visible in your photo) I might reconsider my viewpoint...

        On a more serious note, though, I am so sorry to hear about your brother. I've lost my father and sister to cancer, and that was despite aggressive conventional treatments. But I also know the potential dangers of going alternative routes...some work, many don't, and everybody's different. There are so many factors to consider, it can be hard to determine the best route to choose. Personally, I'd prefer any alternatives to chemotherapy and / or radiation for cancer, but I'd certainly want them to be well substantiated. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to take all the preventative measures I can (considering my family history!).

        @Shane - I'm not sure any of us can be helpful without knowing a lot more specifics - combined with having a medical, naturopathic, or dental degree - but hey, those are minor details!

        One site that may be helpful if you want to research holistic / alternative remedies is EarthClinic.com. If you find something that seems to work for a lot of people there, then I'd recommend doing further research on it. Also, just because garlic and supplements worked for this other person, doesn't mean they will work for you - especially if you're attempting to treat something that may have a different underlying cause.

        I think two of the most important things to consider are 1) how urgent having this tooth pulled is, and 2) what the potential consequences are if you don't have it pulled - and you really need to get that information from your dentist if you haven't already (and if I missed it in your post, my apologies). Those would be the two most important considerations for me, if I were in your shoes.

        Anyway, I hope you are able to save your tooth, if possible.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

          Well, Jack, you don't look like a skepchick to me... but maybe if you're wearing some pretty pumps (that aren't visible in your photo) I might reconsider my viewpoint...
          And just think: Jack and I were hoping to keep it quiet-ish that he sometimes borrows my shoes ...

          Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

          Those would be the two most important considerations for me, if I were in your shoes.
          It's getting hard to retain shoes, around here ...
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            And just think: Jack and I were hoping to keep it quiet-ish that he sometimes borrows my shoes ...



            It's getting hard to retain shoes, around here ...
            Which shoes does Jack borrow?

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Tagiscom,

              Technically Alexa is right. There is an area in the tooth for the nerve. If a dentist simply filled this, it could doom you to intense pain, and there could be related problems. SO, if it gets too far, they try to basically destroy that nerve, and THEN fill the tooth. THAT is what they call the root canal. I don't see HOW it could give you cancer. BTW you NEED to have a skilled person give you a second(SECOND TO YOUR OWN) opinion on the status of anything in your mouth. The best one for that is a DENTIST.

              A root canal IS generally preferable to getting your tooth pulled. Pulling teeth can be unpredictable. Some may look easy, and be hard, and some may seem hard and be easy. ALSO, all things being equal, the ones in the back would be worse, and could require surgery. They are harder to reach, have more complex roots, and the root could be aligned such that the tooth CAN'T be pulled! The only way to get an idea about this is with an XRAY.

              If I had a choice, I would get the root canal. SURE it may initially hurt more, MAYBE! SURE it may take longer, MAYBE! But you would have a solid tooth that likely wouldn't give you many future problems.

              BTW, if you see the word part: "Homeopath", ******RUN******! ANOTHER thing. An infection can quickly spread, and you do NOT want it spreading down a nerve! People can get bells palsy, and a whole string of related conditions, and possibly even DIE from such a thing. You can also get blood poisoning. It can affect the heart. It is UNREAL what a damaged nerve in one tooth can do.

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              Yes, good points, and l have had an X-ray done, the tooth in question doesn't have any weird roots below, so it shouldn't be a nightmare to pull.

              Some do, but thankfully it is none of those! And the two teeth on either side are healthy!

              I read about the cancer one, best to Google it for more info,! Strong correlation between cancer and that!

              Not sure about the root canal one, the top parts of my tooth are already gone, just one side, and a shard left.

              So stay with a dodgy tooth and swish Coconut oil about, or get it pulled and do my stroke victum look for the next two hours, then hope that l am not in too much pain!

              Or do a Dracula impersonation if l eat something!


              Unfortunately good points Steve!

              I expect a thousand under my pillow from the tooth fairy if l go through with this!

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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                If bits are breaking off a tooth it's time to pull it out. If a tooth is loose in its' socket it's time to pull it out.

                I have had both those things happen in the last 5 years, both back teeth.. In both cases the dentist deadened the pain with an anesthetic spray.

                A little pain when the anesthetic wears off later but gone by the next morning.

                Nothing else you can do really. There are a lot of people who swear by a toothpaste alternative called Toothsoap. A site of that name sells it. (.com) It is actually a soap replacement for toothpaste and it claims to improve gum health. Have tried it and it takes a bit of getting used too. You should read up on it. It is a preventative measure to perhaps avoid future extractions and cavities.

                Your mouth really does feel clean after using it. I admit though, I did not use it for long as it, despite being flavoured, is like brushing your teeth with soap. My bad.
                hmmm, l haven't been to a dentist for 10 or 15 years, and with the exception of this nasty one, perfect!

                But l have to admit, that l drink filtered water most of the day, so that helps.

                And am a bit fanatical about cleaning!


                Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it!

                The staff down there, think that it is no big deal, and l shouldn't look like l am getting a limb knocked off, (which l did).

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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                Yes, good points, and l have had an X-ray done, the tooth in question doesn't have any weird roots below, so it shouldn't be a nightmare to pull.

                Some do, but thankfully it is none of those! And the two teeth on either side are healthy!

                I read about the cancer one, best to Google it for more info,! Strong correlation between cancer and that!

                Not sure about the root canal one, the top parts of my tooth are already gone, just one side, and a shard left.

                So stay with a dodgy tooth and swish Coconut oil about, or get it pulled and do my stroke victum look for the next two hours, then hope that l am not in too much pain!

                Or do a Dracula impersonation if l eat something!


                Unfortunately good points Steve!

                I expect a thousand under my pillow from the tooth fairy if l go through with this!

                OK, I MISSED the part about how bad the tooth was. HAVE IT PULLED! REALIZE that if it is as bad as you seem to indicate, they may STILL effectively give you a root canal. That is BAD! I have heard about NIGHTMARE situations because a tooth was so bad, etc... HOPEFULLY you will have the luck I had with a couple wisdom teeth. The dentist said he would recommend to his BROTHER that he have the teeth removed, and they were healthy but practically right on the hinge! They had FOUR roots! They were hard to SEE, much less reach. So what would happen? It turned out that the roots were like turned about themselves, but mostly not actually in bone. They came out FAR easier than I would ever have imagined. I was supposed to keep the holes irrigated with salt water until they healed, and there was NO pain, and NO complications. So you MIGHT luck out. If you DON'T though, realize that people have been through it before.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Shane,

    I had two back teeth pulled, one about a month ago the other two weeks ago. One was broken and causing extreme pain to the touch. The other was broken and abscessed, causing extreme pain sensitivity to hot and cold.

    The abscessed tooth hurt like hell to get pulled. An abscessed tooth doesn't numb as readily. In my case, it was like having a tooth pulled without a pain suppressant. The other tooth didn't hurt at all, I just felt a little pressure and it was over. So that's something to think about -- waiting too long can lead to an abscessed tooth, which can be much more painful to have extracted.

    As for after the extractions, the dentist gave me a prescription for pain, but I didn't need it either time. It's still sitting in the cupboard, unused.

    I'd be highly skeptical of the garlic thing. It wouldn't hurt to try it I suppose, if you don't wait too long to have the tooth pulled if it doesn't work. More x-rays will cost more money though, as will a second opinion unless you have insurance that covers those things.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I had a back tooth pulled about 20 years ago and would only wish it on my worst enemy.

    The dentist said I was a real trooper.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Shane,

    I will send you a pm that may or may not help you make a decision.
    My story is a rather extreme one so I would rather not make it public in here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I had a back tooth pulled about 20 years ago and would only wish it on my worst enemy.

      The dentist said I was a real trooper.
      Are you sure is wasn't more like 100 years ago, before Novocain was invented? You do seem rather ancient, old boy. (<- "old boy" is my best British affectation.)


      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Shane,

      I will send you a pm that may or may not help you make a decision.
      My story is a rather extreme one so I would rather not make it public in here.
      Well Laurence, you certainly know how to arouse curiosity. I can see the WSO coming already:
      Don't Have a Tooth Pulled Until You Read this Damning Report: How to Avoid Oral Hell


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    There's always the DIY solution...

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Sorry to hear it ... and hope it's non-traumatic and that you're better off without it.

      Every tooth has "root canals". They're an anatomical feature. Laymen tend to use the expression "root canal" as an abbreviation of either "root canal filling" or "root canal cleaning" (neither of which, in itself, necessitates extraction of the tooth at all).

      Infection is only one of the common causes for needing that. There are others, too.

      I lost a top, back tooth last week, and will soon lose a bottom back tooth as well (post-radiotherapy bone necrosis - not infection, and I wouldn't be alive at all without having had the treatment that caused this problem as a side-effect, so I'm very badly-placed indeed to complain about it!). "Fortunately" only back teeth that won't show at all, and that are/were of very limited use to me anyway.

      The teeth I'm losing are "wisdom teeth", so I'm becoming more stupid, too.


      I'm different from you - call me a skepchick but I get my dental information and advice only from people who have been to dental school, just like I take my medical information and advice only from people who have been to medical school.

      Wishing you better quickly and smoothly, Shane!

      .
      Thanks Alexa, good to know that l am not the only one that is falling apart, but still looks good externally!
      Least l think so!!!

      Probably right about the garlic one, but l will still look into it, though!

      Just like you, it is so far back smiling won't show it, well it is the second last top tooth, so as for a tooth that went sour because of a viral infection, probably the best one to loose.

      Still sucks, thought! Considering all my teeth are great, no filings, etc. Just this nasty one, to mess up my perfect score!

      X-rays in Au, with Medicare are free, but it is $60 for a checkup, and $130+ for the tooth pulling bit.


      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I had a back tooth pulled about 20 years ago and would only wish it on my worst enemy.

      The dentist said I was a real trooper.
      Gee, thanks a lot that really helps!!!!

      Now, where is my garlic?
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Hi, had some depressing news today, that l have to have one of my back, top teeth pulled!

    This was due to a skin infection l had on both my hands a year ago, (that went into that area).

    It also seems that Root Canals, can create more problems than they fix, (a strong connection to Cancer being the main one).

    So, just wondering on your thoughts and experiences?

    Is tooth extraction really necessary, or are there other more natural ways to fix the tooth?

    Or to git rid of the infection!


    Some parts of that tooth are already broken off, but l suppose that l can live with that, but the mild pain, is something l don't want to live with!

    But getting it pulled, and then realising later on, that putting raw Garlic on it for a while could have turned it around, without the pulling part?


    Appreciate some advise. And all the rest are healthy, apart from this one.

    And it is so far back, l can't be seen when smiling, which is good, l don't have a spare $5000 to replace the tooth with another one, especially after dealing with subcreatures!


    This looks interesting, anyone else tried this?


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    Hi Shane,

    My Dad's a Doctor, but as in Juris Doctor aka attorney, and I've never been to med school.

    However, I've never heard of a link between a Root Canal procedure and cancer.

    I have heard of a connection between bad teeth and gums and serious heart issues.

    And, of course you never want to mess around with an infection in the head. It can cause
    problems in the brain if it passes through the blood brain barrier.

    With respect to the natural cures - such as garlic - you may be too far along because your original
    infection was a year ago. So we don't know when your tooth infection started.

    The guy in the article you quoted seems to have taken many things and you don't know the doses,
    nor how you will react to what all is in the recipe. (I once used a whole bunch of herbs and teas - without
    proper guidance - to 'detox'. Something caused me to get a week long case of the hiccups that did not go away until we found the right traditional medicine that stopped the muscle spasms.)

    So, if you try the natural route, work with your Dentists and Doctors, and trained/certified
    Naturopathic Doc or herbalist to see if there is time, or if you have to do a traditional procedure NOW.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Tagiscom,

    Technically Alexa is right. There is an area in the tooth for the nerve. If a dentist simply filled this, it could doom you to intense pain, and there could be related problems. SO, if it gets too far, they try to basically destroy that nerve, and THEN fill the tooth. THAT is what they call the root canal. I don't see HOW it could give you cancer. BTW you NEED to have a skilled person give you a second(SECOND TO YOUR OWN) opinion on the status of anything in your mouth. The best one for that is a DENTIST.

    A root canal IS generally preferable to getting your tooth pulled. Pulling teeth can be unpredictable. Some may look easy, and be hard, and some may seem hard and be easy. ALSO, all things being equal, the ones in the back would be worse, and could require surgery. They are harder to reach, have more complex roots, and the root could be aligned such that the tooth CAN'T be pulled! The only way to get an idea about this is with an XRAY.

    If I had a choice, I would get the root canal. SURE it may initially hurt more, MAYBE! SURE it may take longer, MAYBE! But you would have a solid tooth that likely wouldn't give you many future problems.

    BTW, if you see the word part: "Homeopath", ******RUN******! ANOTHER thing. An infection can quickly spread, and you do NOT want it spreading down a nerve! People can get bells palsy, and a whole string of related conditions, and possibly even DIE from such a thing. You can also get blood poisoning. It can affect the heart. It is UNREAL what a damaged nerve in one tooth can do.

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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    If bits are breaking off a tooth it's time to pull it out. If a tooth is loose in its' socket it's time to pull it out.

    I have had both those things happen in the last 5 years, both back teeth.. In both cases the dentist deadened the pain with an anesthetic spray.

    A little pain when the anesthetic wears off later but gone by the next morning.

    Nothing else you can do really. There are a lot of people who swear by a toothpaste alternative called Toothsoap. A site of that name sells it. (.com) It is actually a soap replacement for toothpaste and it claims to improve gum health. Have tried it and it takes a bit of getting used too. You should read up on it. It is a preventative measure to perhaps avoid future extractions and cavities.

    Your mouth really does feel clean after using it. I admit though, I did not use it for long as it, despite being flavoured, is like brushing your teeth with soap. My bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Benedict
    I've had 3 RCT's already, in my upper incisors. Thing is, it's not painful at all (or perhaps I had a strong pain tolerance). I had no choice but to undergo RCT, otherwise, I won't be able to smile.

    When I had experienced excruciating pain and had to rely on meds/pain reliever for a week, (I was like taking one tablet every four hours or whenever it strikes), I didn't think of prolonging the pain since I already spent $$$ for consultation fee, so, I had no choice but to undergo RCT.

    The pain is unfathomable. It made me sleepless for a couple of nights.

    My dentist told me if I could stand the pain of excavating the tooth, then she wouldn't have to give me a shot of anesthesia. Who wants to feel the pain of injection(shot/jab)?

    1st RCT had three sessions. 8 years ago
    2nd RCT had only one session. 3 years ago
    3rd RCT had five sessions. 1 year ago


    Now, since I've read some articles with regards to the link of RCT to cancer, I'm a little confused and worried.

    For the OP, you've got to think of this carefully before having RCT. Not to scare you or what, but this is something you have to be cautious with.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay - my 2 cents.

    Shane, garlic might help with infection. Swishing and rinsing with hyrdrogen peroxide and or warm salt water will help infection, at least to minimize it. Then swishing with coconut oil can keep new infection from forming. But................

    If the tooth is broken, nothing is going to keep infection away or fix that tooth but dentistry. While a tooth with just a cavity can now be remineralized (always could be but they didn't tell us that) a broken tooth is just that - broken.

    I've had both of my top wisdom teeth out and despite all the horror stories I had to endure just before having them pulled - the she died from it, or the he couldn't ever eat normally again variety of nightmare stories that people so "helpfully" relate before your appointment - I never had any pain from it. Seriously none. Once the shot wore off (can't remember the name of the med but what they numb your tooth with) I was supposed to wait xx hours before eating. That was the hard part for me. I was hungry and they wanted to make sure to give the wound time to plug. I couldn't wait so settled for a big tub of not so nutritious ice cream and washed it down with some good antiseptic warm tea. Then later when it was okay, I ate a full plate of solid food.

    Yeah - it was that painful and traumatic. If it's the pain of having it pulled you're worried about, don't. If you just try to ignore it when it's broken, I don't care what "natural" you use, you'll have continual infections and problems. Broken is broken. Get it FIXED.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay - my 2 cents.

      Shane, garlic might help with infection. Swishing and rinsing with hyrdrogen peroxide and or warm salt water will help infection, at least to minimize it. Then swishing with coconut oil can keep new infection from forming. But................

      If the tooth is broken, nothing is going to keep infection away or fix that tooth but dentistry. While a tooth with just a cavity can now be remineralized (always could be but they didn't tell us that) a broken tooth is just that - broken.

      I've had both of my top wisdom teeth out and despite all the horror stories I had to endure just before having them pulled - the she died from it, or the he couldn't ever eat normally again variety of nightmare stories that people so "helpfully" relate before your appointment - I never had any pain from it. Seriously none. Once the shot wore off (can't remember the name of the med but what they numb your tooth with) I was supposed to wait xx hours before eating. That was the hard part for me. I was hungry and they wanted to make sure to give the wound time to plug. I couldn't wait so settled for a big tub of not so nutritious ice cream and washed it down with some good antiseptic warm tea. Then later when it was okay, I ate a full plate of solid food.

      Yeah - it was that painful and traumatic. If it's the pain of having it pulled you're worried about, don't. If you just try to ignore it when it's broken, I don't care what "natural" you use, you'll have continual infections and problems. Broken is broken. Get it FIXED.
      Yes, thanks Sal, it is more rotten inside and top parts of the tooth breaking off, over time!

      I freaked out when it first happened, (l know what the actor out of the Fly, (modern one) felt like).

      I suspect that if l go down the natural route, then over time more of the tooth will disappear, and it will get progressively harder to pull.

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        A quick update, the tooth is gone, and it is hardly noticeable,...well there is some pain, but not the "mad as hell" sort!

        I looked like someone who had a stroke on the left side afterwards, (tried not to smile), and thankfully after biting down on some gowls for an hour the bleeding pretty much stopped!

        The dentist scared me to death initially saying, he might not be able to extract all the roots, and it could lead to cutting into the gum to get to it all or affecting the space underneath that affect the nasal area.

        But l had little choice and thankfully he got the lot without much misery on my part!


        Relieved it is over, l might need a filling on one, (one tooth in the x-ray looked suspect) but after that it will be a walk in the park.


        Thanks everyone!


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        • Profile picture of the author Cali16
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          A quick update, the tooth is gone, and it is hardly noticeable,...well there is some pain, but not the "mad as hell" sort!
          Glad to hear you got it fixed without any complications and minimal pain! That must be a big relief.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          A quick update, the tooth is gone, and it is hardly noticeable,...well there is some pain, but not the "mad as hell" sort!

          I looked like someone who had a stroke on the left side afterwards, (tried not to smile), and thankfully after biting down on some gowls for an hour the bleeding pretty much stopped!
          Ifyou are paralyzed, hopefully it will dissipate, or you can compensate. But the drugs they use often have that effect for even several hours.

          The dentist scared me to death initially saying, he might not be able to extract all the roots, and it could lead to cutting into the gum to get to it all or affecting the space underneath that affect the nasal area.
          I tried to prepare you ALSO! SOME people even have a separate visit scheduled to go to a doctor that does SURGERY. Of course you were scared enough. But that is why I spoke of roots and initially said a root canal might be better.(BEFORE I realized how damaged the tooth was(

          But l had little choice and thankfully he got the lot without much misery on my part!


          Relieved it is over, l might need a filling on one, (one tooth in the x-ray looked suspect) but after that it will be a walk in the park.


          Thanks everyone!
          GLAD TO HEAR IT! Take antibiotics, if prescribed, Gargling salt water is good anyway. Even the hole will seem to disappear.

          HEY, at least, after it heals, you won't have to worry about THAT one again!

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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            Salt water is good to take anyway.
            Just to prevent any dramas, gurgle the salt water Shane, don't drink it.
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              Just to prevent any dramas, gurgle the salt water Shane, don't drink it.
              Good point! OK, WHERE is the embarrassed emoticon?

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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                Good point! OK, WHERE is the embarrassed emoticon?

                Steve
                I knew that you knew that Steve, just thought I'd chuck it out there as you're a bright chap and I didn't want others downing pints of salt water on your advice.

                Here you go though Steve....

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

                  Glad to hear you got it fixed without any complications and minimal pain! That must be a big relief.
                  Yep!

                  Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                  Ifyou are paralyzed, hopefully it will dissipate, or you can compensate. But the drugs they use often have that effect for even several hours.



                  I tried to prepare you ALSO! SOME people even have a separate visit scheduled to go to a doctor that does SURGERY. Of course you were scared enough. But that is why I spoke of roots and initially said a root canal might be better.(BEFORE I realized how damaged the tooth was(



                  GLAD TO HEAR IT! Take antibiotics, if prescribed, Gargling salt water is good anyway. Even the hole will seem to disappear.

                  HEY, at least, after it heals, you won't have to worry about THAT one again!

                  Steve
                  Yes, after about two hours, l could feel the anesthetic wearing off and a dull pain in that area!

                  Yes, he said at worst, if he couldn't get it all out, that cutting into the gum and complications with the nasal areas could result.

                  Well, having to sign a legal form, go to the nearest hospital and get knocked out, was the worst case scenario, but thankfully that didn't happen! Phew.

                  No antibiotics, were given since it was a grab the surgical pliers and tug away, sort of deal!

                  He did also mention that the tips were developing abscesses, which others here have said is a lot more painful to get out!

                  So lucky l got it yanked!


                  Well, after talking to everyone here, another small part broke off, and l was able to crush it like chalk, as well as another piece becoming loose.

                  Clear evidence to me, that the sooner it is pulled the better!


                  Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                  Good point! OK, WHERE is the embarrassed emoticon?

                  Steve
                  Here you go!

                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  I knew that you knew that Steve, just thought I'd chuck it out there as you're a bright chap and I didn't want others downing pints of salt water on your advice.

                  Here you go though Steve....

                  That isn't an Emicon, this is an Emicon!

                  Aussie gag!


                  And l do need to swish some salting water around tomorrow onwards, but not the first day, which is now!


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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The idea of the salt water is just to keep that pocket clean and moist, and provide a bad environment for bacteria, so it heals completely, without infection. It was suggested to me, when I had this type of work done, and was a low effort deal that worked.

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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      The idea of the salt water is just to keep that pocket clean and moist, and provide a bad environment for bacteria, so it heals completely, without infection. It was suggested to me, when I had this type of work done, and was a low effort deal that worked.
      This makes complete sense, of course. Salt water is well-known to be antibacterial, to some extent, and surgeons recommend it for some other similar/related purposes, too.

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    I also swish with salt water to keep my teeth WHITE. It's as excellent for whitening as it is for bacteria control. It also draws out any infection that might try to start up.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I also swish with salt water to keep my teeth WHITE. It's as excellent for whitening as it is for bacteria control. It also draws out any infection that might try to start up.
      I'd always wondered why Aboriginal people always had white teeth. I found out that they use salt to keep them clean.

      Since then I've been putting salt on my toothpaste when I brush. It hasn't exactly turned them whiter than white, but it has had an effect.
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      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        I'd always wondered why Aboriginal people always had white teeth. I found out that they use salt to keep them clean.

        Since then I've been putting salt on my toothpaste when I brush. It hasn't exactly turned them whiter than white, but it has had an effect.
        You could add a little baking soda and/or hydrogen pyroxide to that mix for more whitening.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

          You could add a little baking soda and/or hydrogen pyroxide to that mix for more whitening.
          And cocaine does wonders for dreams!
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            And cocaine does wonders for dreams!
            I had a bad experience with snuff when I was five or so.
            It was actually tobacco. My older siblings and I sniffed it.
            I got a bloody nose and have never been able to stand
            the thought of inhaling anything through my nose.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Well, Shane, I am glad everything worked out OK.
    I have an employee getting about every tooth replaced with dentures.
    Two surgeries down and I think one to go.

    You probably already know this, but get your good stomach bacteria
    built back up after you run your course of antibiotics.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Well, Shane, I am glad everything worked out OK.
      I have an employee getting about every tooth replaced with dentures.
      Two surgeries down and I think one to go.

      You probably already know this, but get your good stomach bacteria
      built back up after you run your course of antibiotics.
      Nasty!

      No, l didn't need the horse sized penicillin tablets again! Thank goodness, hate those things!

      Just need to take the headache tablets, (which taste horrible) every few hours, and swish some salty water about 4 times a day!

      You can't take Disprins, because they thin the blood to much and can make something like this worse!

      And avoid strenuous exercises otherwise l will look like Draculas stand-in again, well yesterday l was that and half my face was frozen!

      I got a funny look from the lady serving me afternoon tea, but that was about it!

      The pain is a bit less today, so l should have a full recovery!

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