Not to Bring up Ferguson Again, but This To Me is Priceless

by sbucciarel Banned

Posted: 9 years ago 45 replies

OFF TOPIC

Ferguson has been debated to death, so I hesitated to even post this, but I do really hate the KKK and find most of Anonymous shenanigans fairly amusing. It appears that the KKK threatened violence against anyone in Ferguson who protested, and Anonymous took over their two largest Twitter accounts and their websites have been offline for 20 hrs or so via DDoS attacks.

They posted this recently to their Twitter account ... lol.
Twitter Acct here https://twitter.com/kukluxklanusa
Story here Anonymous statement: KKK is a terrorist group, KKK responds poorly | ZDNet

Joe Mobley

9 years ago

Perhaps Anonymous could extend their services to existing terrorist groups that have recently rioted, burned and looted businesses in Ferguson.

Just saying.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Perhaps Anonymous could extend their services to existing terrorist groups that have recently rioted, burned and looted businesses in Ferguson.

Just saying.

Joe Mobley

Yeah ... like maybe the Ferguson cops
Anonymous Exposes Cop as Member of KKK Behind Letter Threatening to Kill Ferguson Protesters | Filming Cops

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Joe Mobley

9 years ago

In the news videos I saw, it was not "the Ferguson cops" who were rioting, burning and looting businesses and threatening future violence if they did not get their way.

I'm sorry, Al Sharpton, the KKK and Anonymous have very similar levels of respectability in my view.

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Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Yeah ... like maybe the Ferguson cops
Anonymous Exposes Cop as Member of KKK Behind Letter Threatening to Kill Ferguson Protesters | Filming Cops

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Cops who are a member of the KKK and send letters threatening lethal force against legal protestors have a low rate of respectability in my view.

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Joe Mobley

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Cops who are a member of the KKK and send letters threatening lethal force against legal protestors have a low rate of respectability in my view.

Perhaps we differ in our definition of "legal protesters." Recent history would seem to indicate that some groups in Ferguson are struggling with that definition also.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Perhaps we differ in our definition of "legal protesters." Recent history would seem to indicate that some groups in Ferguson are struggling with that definition also.

Joe Mobley

Guess you didn't take the hint that I really wanted to talk about Anonymous vs the KKK and Twitter and Unicorns, and not yet another Ferguson rant thread, but I guess some never get their fill of punditry.

... so back on track and looking at the fun in this ... the KKK Twitter feed is going like this after the KKK apparently saw the Youtube video that Anon made for them ....

Nov 16

Ku Klux Klan: Anonymous is nothing but a bunch of wannabes. They won't take any action. We will not be brought down by some low-lives behind a screen.

Ku Klux Klan: Anonymous is nothing but an act. Don't be worried by this, fellow klansmen.

Someone else: be very worried

Ku Klux KlanOur Kommunity is not at all scared of the threats from anonymous. Just try us. You'll regret it

.... and then ....

Anon: 16 NOV 2014 09:11:47 You should've expected us. #OpKKK continues to be a success. Freedom will prevail.

Anon: UPDATE: Anonymous will release a statement on THIS account tomorrow at 03:00 GMT (21 hours from now) regarding the seizing of this account.

then a beautiful Unicorn is posted.

Ok ... maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is hilarious.

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- sbucciarel Banned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  lol ... we might get a couple of good memes out of this. I love a good meme.
  
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Ok ... maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is hilarious.

It is hilarious, and I also love that they have outed several Klans members. Good stuff!
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- ThomM 9 years ago
  
  Ok ... maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is hilarious.
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  It is hilarious, and I also love that they have outed several Klans members. Good stuff!
  
  That was hands down one of the funniest things I've seen in a while
  
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- sbucciarel Banned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  It is hilarious, and I also love that they have outed several Klans members. Good stuff!
  
  Yes, they do have more. Said they want to verify before releasing all of the names so that none that are innocent get named wrongly.
  
  This kind of thing is what I love about Internet culture. I've been around long enough to see the evolution from BBS to newsgroups to now Facebook and the Twitterverse. A single event can cause Twitter to erupt with either outrage or hilarious memes at a moment notice. Anonymous is also a large of the culture, and since I'm mostly on their side of an issue, I love to see this kind of take down ... the Westboro church one made my day as well. I guess you can say I'm easily amused.
  
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Joe Mobley

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Obviously, my mistake.

Not to Bring up Ferguson Again, but This To Me is Priceless

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Update: Anonymous posts kkk leaders credit card number, home address, etc... Lol

http://rt.com/usa/209875-anonymous-kkk-leader-dox/

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Kay King

9 years ago

To me, that puts Anonymous (or the "hacktivists") on the same level as the KKK. On social media, the KKK and Anonymous are involved in an "I can act stupider than you" contest.

inks to two documents containing data alleged to be Ancona's home address, Social Security number, credit card details, social media profiles, tax records and information on his family.

That's just wrong. You don't release financial information - and you don't target wives and children of someone you dislike. As usual, Anonymous crossed the line.

When I see Anonymous post the standard "We are Anonymous - We are Legion" I think of a bunch of misfits hiding behind masks.

Oh wait - doesn't that also describe members of the KKK???

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

To me, that puts Anonymous (or the "hacktivists") on the same level as the KKK. On social media, the KKK and Anonymous are involved in an "I can act stupider than you" contest.

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Oh wait - doesn't that also describe members of the KKK???

The pastebin of that information has been removed but really ... Anonymous on the same level as the KKK. Sure. KKK is a terrorist organization that has killed thousands of people during its lifetime, either because they didn't care for their religion, race, culture or that the victims supported the same. If that's the same thing to you ... so be it, but I could care less about the rights of a murdering terrorist organization.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

That's just wrong. You don't release financial information - and you don't target wives and children of someone you dislike. As usual, Anonymous crossed the line.

Oh cry me a river. You didn't even read

" pertain to Frank Ancona, the self-described Imperial Wizard of the Missouri-based Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan."

His name aint Smith. He put his own family as "targets" (whatever that means) when he self identified himself and his family name as associated with leadership of a hate group.

The only people I am sorry for in this is the linen and scissors sellers. What with the decline of crafts among our youth they need every sale of white sheets and scissors they can get.

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

My name is pretty rare. I went on ancestry.com, and I haven't yet encountered ANYONE with the same name! I went through a lot of sources, and found only like 1 other reference, STILL, many have misspelled my name HORRIBLY wrong, or associated others with things I have done, or even my picture. ALSO, I have found that some people DO have the same name I have, and are even approximately the same age! I one time found that a book store had a loyalty member with my name in another state. So using a persons name as the SOLE way to identify them is just DUMB! Is anonymous SURE they got the right info and right guy?

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Kurt 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

My name is pretty rare.

That is unique...not sure why, but I always thought your name was Steve.
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- seasoned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  That is unique...not sure why, but I always thought your name was Steve.
  
  I meant my WHOLE name. But YEAH, NO variant of steve is likely to be rare. Heck, Steven Jobs and Stephen Wozniak are two good examples. And Stephen Hawking, But whether you use first, last, first and last, or even first MIDDLE and last, it is not SO unique that it reliably identifies. Both my father and William(AKA BILL) gates have names that are SO uncommon that they could have numbers after them. BOTH are technically "The THIRD".
  
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Frank Donovan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Have you tried a search using other spellings, such as Steev, or Steave?

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

. So using a persons name as the SOLE way to identify them is just DUMB!

No whats dumb is you thinking there might be two people named Frank Ancona who are Imperial wizards in Missouri (in case you missed it your "SOLE" argument just fell flat)

That and your total inability to use a search engine to verify that anonymous wasn't the one that made the identification but Frank Ancona himself even before this incident.

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

You REALLY think that he changed his name on credit cards and his address to say "IMPERIAL WIZARD"?

Olathe Honda owner gets confused with KKK leader - Kansas City Business Journal

Linked in says there are *******FIVE******** ON THEIR SYSTEM, that have the SAME name!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank D. Ancona
Senior Country Study Manager at Genentech in Medical Affairs
San Francisco Bay Area
Frank Ancona
Frank Ancona
Business Teacher at Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools
Greensboro/Winston-Salem, North Carolina Area
Frank Ancona
Frank Ancona
Greater Atlanta Area
Frank T. Ancona NRP, CIC
Frank T. Ancona NRP, CIC
Paramedic, AHA Instructor at Maimonides Medical Center
Greater New York City Area
frank ancona
frank ancona
designer at Pegasus International
Lafayette, Louisiana Area

So he is SIMULTANEOUSLY in Missouri, louisiana, New York, Georgia, California, and North Carolina?

Sorry, but you can NEVER prove something is unique, but it took me a few minutes to prove frank ancona is NOT!!!!!!

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Kurt 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

My name is pretty rare.

Originally Posted by Kurt

That is unique...not sure why, but I always thought your name was Steve.

Originally Posted by seasoned

I meant my WHOLE name.

Steve

So you prefer being called by your whole name Pretty Rare and not just Pretty or Mr. Rare then???? Sorry, but unlike Claude, I have a hard time calling another man "Pretty".
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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

You REALLY think that he changed his name on credit cards and his address to say "IMPERIAL WIZARD"?

Sigh.....what a nitwitish strawman. Does thinking that way ever not give you a headache?

Here -

KKK recruitment fliers distributed in Alabama

I think its safe to say if you identify yourself in a national paper as being something that its not anonymous's fault that you got identified as such.

I will wait with bated breath at what torturous mental gymnastics you will employ to defy the hint of any real rationality on your part.

So he is SIMULTANEOUSLY in Missouri, louisiana, New York, Georgia, California, and North Carolina?

Um no which is why he is identified as the imperial wizard Frank Ancona in MO. You obviously flop at reading comprehension.

Sorry, but you can NEVER prove something is unique, but it took me a few minutes to prove frank ancona is NOT!!!!!!

What you proved hardly needed proving based on other post I have seen you make in relations to race. There is no further need to prove your irrationality. Thats been well established.
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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Update: Anonymous posts kkk leaders credit card number, home address, etc... Lol

http://rt.com/usa/209875-anonymous-kkk-leader-dox/

And nobody asks WHY? WHAT would they do with that info? Will they simply harass him, or try to kill him? Will they buy stuff with his credit card number?

I wonder! Will you laugh as hard when it is YOUR information?

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Right Steve ... Anonymous is known for being ruthless killers. Oh wait ... that's the KKK. I'm fairly certain that they've changed their credit card number and Anonymous does not hack to go on a shopping spree. The KKK made direct threats of death both to protestors and to Anonymous members themselves... not the other way around, as you would suggest.

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

OH, so they publish it in a paper that ONLY ones that know the number read? That is MORONIC! It wouldn't even be REPORTED! NOPE! It will get around and anyone could find it.

I NEVER suggested that the protestors or anonymous made any overt personal threats, though YOU ADMITTED they made a COVERT one, complete with facilitation! I merely said that publishing their addresses, which may NOT even be their addresses, and their credit cards WHERE FRAUD IS NOT OWED BY THEM, is a BAD and DUMB move.

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Midnight Oil

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Update: Anonymous posts kkk leaders credit card number, home address, etc... Lol

Anonymous posts KKK leader?s personal data online in ongoing war over Ferguson ? RT USA

Think maybe they'll do the same to the domestic terrorists who burned and destroyed businesses owned by the citizens of Ferguson?

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Kay King

9 years ago

The KKK today is far removed from what it used to be - thank goodness for that. I'm sorry the organization still exists in any form - but today it's mostly blather and bluster of people who hold on to the past and to a ludicrous sense of entitlement and superiority. Anonymous members seem to think they are above the law and justify activity that violates the rights or property of others...and seem to have the same sense of entitlement and superiority.

I have absolutely no respect for either the KKK or Anonymous and their hoods and masks.

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Claude Whitacre 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

and their hoods and masks.

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

And OTHERS now have their sense of entitlement, and I have no respect for THEM either!

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Anonymous members seem to think they are above the law and justify activity that violates the rights or property of others...and seem to have the same sense of entitlement and superiority.

One major difference between the KKK and Anonymous.

The KKK target innocent people who just happen to be different to them.

Anonymous targets people who harm innocent people.

As long as they keep exposing the KKK, Westboro Baptists, banksters and other enemies of the people, I say more power to the likes of Anonymous, Assange, Manning and Snowden.

On a side note, the members of the KKK are now so inbred, the average African American is probably genetically closer to being Aryan than they are.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Yeah ... like maybe the Ferguson cops
Anonymous Exposes Cop as Member of KKK Behind Letter Threatening to Kill Ferguson Protesters | Filming Cops

I have no sympathy for the rioters looting businesses. That's just self-defeating. But police action preceding that has been equally stupid and self-defeating. Stupid is as stupid does.
(Is anyone surprised that a Ferguson cop is among the ranks of the KKK?)

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Anonymous has more information from a mole at the police station about the Ferguson cop links to the KKK, but they won't release it until they find the link themselves because the mole is afraid for his life if they do expose it. It would be obvious that he gave that info to Anonymous. I think that we're going to see a big shake-up in the Ferguson police dept. once the Dept. of Justice is done with their investigation.

As for the riots .. most don't condone robbing, burning and looting. That's not a legal protest. Anonymous reacted to death threats against legal protestors, and the KKK has now included Anonymous members in their death threats.

As for their hacktivist activities exposing KKK members and their data in Ferguson ... Yay Anonymous. KKK is a terrorist hate group and I could care less about rights of a terrorist organization, as I've said.

Anyone who believes that the KKK is just full of hot air today and not the same criminal organization that they've always been is wrong. There are fewer numbers of these assholes, but they are still the same murdering thugs they've always been.

2014

The man accused in Sunday's shootings at a Jewish community center and a Jewish retirement home near Kansas City, which left three people dead, is a 73-year-old former grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks "hate groups and domestic terrorists."
Frazier Glenn Cross, also known as Glenn Miller, is accused of killing three people Sunday in Kansas City. He allegedly attacked them at a Jewish community center and a Jewish retirement facility.

Frazier Glenn Cross, also known as Glenn Miller, is accused of killing three people Sunday in Kansas City. He allegedly attacked them at a Jewish community center and a Jewish retirement facility.
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Frazier Glenn Cross, who goes by the name Glenn Miller, is accused of premeditated murder in the first degree in the shootings in Overland Park, Kan., according to information posted online by the Johnson County (Kan.) Sheriff's Office.

The poverty law center says Cross has served at least two jail terms, including "three years in federal prison after being indicted on weapons charges and for plotting robberies and the assassination of [poverty law center] founder Morris Dees."

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I'm just against things like identifying people with common characteristics. It is like a who done it where they figure a person that killed is left handed, and they nail the first left hander they see. There may be SEVERAL suspects that are left handed. There may be some that do the particular action in a left handed way. There may be some that are ambidextrous.

BTW I have tried my left hand to do EVERYTHING! Sometimes I switch off. And I have ALWAYS worn watches on the side that apparently only left handers do. So ****I*** could get pegged if they look for a left hander, even though I am NOT!

I heard of a rapist that once got off because they determined blood type from semen. They caught the guy, and let him go because he was the WRONG blood type! They eventually found that what they were checking in the semen and blood could be DIFFERENT! It WAS unusual, but not impossible.

As for this guy and the KKK? You don't just wake up and do these things. I bet the KKK has people that NEVER would do such things, and most that would have NEVER been KKK members. It is simply that the KKK is a place in the US where many like that can associate.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I'm just against things like identifying people with common characteristics.

Steve

They posted videos of Ancona that Ancona made and uploaded to Youtube. They posted pictures of him. It isn't a matter of posting the name of someone who is left-handed and someone who is right-handed gets the blame ... unless of course, he's his identical evil twin.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The video, and claims made by one guy have nothing to do with the uniqueness of a name.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

The video, and claims made by one guy have nothing to do with the uniqueness of a name.

Steve

Your counter arguments to overwhelming and indisputable evidences have nothing to do with rationality is a more pertinent observation.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Your counter arguments to overwhelming and indisputable evidences have nothing to do with rationality is a more pertinent observation.

No argument, just proof. As I said, if 5 people have the same first and last name, and 4 seem to have the same whole name, it is MORONIC to say a given person with that name is the same guy, as they seemed to have done with the credit and maybe the address.

Oh well, apparently one innocent person was hurt ALREADY because people LIKE YOU failed to realize that. HEY, it doesn't hurt ME one bit. I hope whoever did that is rich and finds himself in court, and possibly in jail.

And NO, I am NOT talking about people like the franc arcona, that HOPEFULLY, identified HIMSELF as the imperial wizard, on his linked in account. With people like you and anonymous, one must wonder, however, if that account was hacked and HE is innocent.

You REALLY think the WORLD got together and made a world wide registry for your name and you are the ONLY guy WORLD WIDE with that name? UNREAL! How do you explain George foreman? GRANTED, they have a special suffix, but that is often left off at some point. SO, that is 6 people named George Foreman. I guess he keeps them straight through the nicknames.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

No argument, just proof. As I said, if 5 people have the same first and last name, and 4 seem to have the same whole name, it is MORONIC

Psychological projection always surfaces at some point in your irrational positions. would this be any different? I would think not.

to say a given person with that name is the same guy, as they seemed to have done with the credit and maybe the address.

Yes we have established that you cannot read a lick. If you had you would have seen that they had far more than just a name.

Oh well, apparently one innocent person was hurt ALREADY because people LIKE YOU failed to realize that

Yes I had everything to do with this. I am anonymous..the...ummmm entire group. Did you glean that from linked in as well? You are a smart fellow. I am also Snowden's African American twin. Meanwhile judging by everything i have read from you in any thread even vaguely related to race people LIKE YOU have a lot to do with why the KKK still thinks they have a reasonable rational position.

With people like you and anonymous, one must wonder, however, if that account was hacked and HE is innocent.

Well he's white...I would expect you based on your other posts to think he might be innocent even if he is the grand wizard of the KKK. I understand how your thought processes go. Show me who you cry on behalf of and I'll show you who you love.

You REALLY think the WORLD got together and made a world wide registry for your name and you are the ONLY guy WORLD WIDE with that name? UNREAL! How do you explain George foreman? GRANTED,

and back to the nitwitish strawmen as If any one was identified just by name. I told you your "SOLE" argument flopped but like most things it went right over your head.

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HeySal

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Perhaps Anonymous could extend their services to existing terrorist groups that have recently rioted, burned and looted businesses in Ferguson.

Just saying.

Joe Mobley

Uh.............perhaps it's because these people are not organized online? I don't think I've ever heard of a Burn Ferguson website.

I also believe this was a purposely escalated problem. Nothing but.

I don't really know enough about what's going on down there to know if these riots are justifiable anger or just a lot of entitled crap, though. I can imagine that cops are not completely innocent since such explosive anger exists down there. If it didn't, those damned politicians and Sharpton couldn't have stirred this up to this level.

Still - looting and burning your neighbors stores is NOT the way to get back at a corrupt police force. How does tearing your community members lives to crap solve militia police brutality? They have chosen the wrong method of action. Period. I'm just hoping that the rest of us don't feel the repercussions when these fools all start a war in that zone.

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9 years ago

RIOTS are NOT legal!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 9 years ago

Oh, that Ferguson.

Not even this Ferguson?

To be honest, I saw the word Ferguson and thought "Why is Suzanne starting a thread about football/soccer?". The British media have apparently had such an impression on me, over the years, that even I have come to associate the word with Manchester United's former manager!

(Apologies for side-tracking

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ThomM

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Oh, that Ferguson.

Not even this Ferguson?

(Apologies for side-tracking

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Don't feel bad Alexa. When I see Ferguson my first thought is always about Craig Ferguson

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socialentry 9 years ago

With organization like the KKK and anonymous, the US is turning into mob rule.

Someone should intervene to restore order.
Now who could that b????
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