Chris Rock on Rich People: Agree or Disagree?

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Chris Rock, recently made a statement in New York magazine concerning the perks rich people get. While the basic premise is not entirely new. The divide seems to be getting wider, faster.

What's your thoughts?

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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Yeah, Rock just commented on Rich people as it relates to First Class Flying in a Plane. He really didn't elaborate on much else.

      I think if he continues to spout of ALL the stuff poor people are missing out on he will have a Riot at his own Concerts

      Better to not rub it in peoples' faces
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Most of it was about celebrities, not just rich people. He's a comedian, and a damn good one. These observations are said in a comedic way, even though there is some truth to it.

        I've seen his concerts, I've seen his last few videos about how to not get harassed by police, and other subjects. He's very bright.

        Here's a sample;

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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          He's a comedian, and a damn good one. These observations are said in a comedic way, even though there is some truth to it.
          He's an intelligent guy but he has NEVER made me laugh.

          Just has NEVER been funny to me.

          It is ironic because many in the Black community refer to Rock as an 'Uncle Tom' with the Humor like that in the video you present above.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            He's an intelligent guy but he has NEVER made me laugh. Not sure why.

            But he has NEVER been funny to me.
            No idea. Humor is complex. For example, Adam Sandler isn't funny to me. I don't know if I've ever laughed at anything he's said. Most British humor is lost on me. That doesn't mean it's not funny, only that it isn't resonating as funny to me. Will Ferrell has me in stitches. Ricky Gervais does too.

            The second Horrible Bosses movie, had me laughing so hard, I embarrassed my wife.

            The Three Stooges made me laugh as a kid, now they bore me to tears. The Pink Panther movies used to kill me, now....not so much.


            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            So is multi-millionaire Rock offering to fly coach to protest the rich perks????

            Yeah, right.
            Kay; They aren't perks. They are paid for in the ticket price. Rich people don't fly free.

            And the gifts he was talking about were swag bags for celebrities, getting perks for free, as part of publicity. He just bunched wealthy people with celebrities together, because it made a better narrative.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              No idea. Humor is complex. For example, Adam Sandler isn't funny to me. I don't know if I've ever laughed at anything he's said. Most British humor is lost on me. That doesn't mean it's not funny, only that it isn't resonating as funny to me. Will Ferrell has me in stitches. Ricky Gervais does too.


              Yes Adam Sandler has had some decent Movies but I have not much got into his humor.

              For the life of me I will NEVER understand what is so funny about that Live singing rendition he does for the Days of Hanukkah or whatever it is.

              One of the most overrated, unfunny things I have ever heard of in entertainment industry
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            He's an intelligent guy but he has NEVER made me laugh.

            Just has NEVER been funny to me.
            Just curious who you think is funny Robert. I agree with you on Adam Sandler, but think Rock is funny and very sharp also.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              Just curious who you think is funny Robert. I agree with you on Adam Sandler, but think Rock is funny and very sharp also.
              His voice is so annoying to me I just cannot hear anything else.

              Just an annoying sound I cant get used too.

              So it makes everything unfunny to me.
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              • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                His voice is so annoying to me I just cannot hear anything else.

                Just an annoying sound I cant get used too.

                So it makes everything unfunny to me.
                Yeah. I get you don't like him, but who do you think is funny?
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                • Profile picture of the author discrat
                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  Yeah. I get you don't like him, but who do you think is funny?
                  I like Bill Cosby

                  No seriously, Iam not big into stand up comedians. More situational comedy.

                  Like old Tim Conway on Carol Burnett show with live impromptu.

                  Or a few old Eddie Murphy movies, also Steve Martin and Chris Farley
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        • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Most of it was about celebrities, not just rich people. He's a comedian, and a damn good one. These observations are said in a comedic way, even though there is some truth to it.

          I've seen his concerts, I've seen his last few videos about how to not get harassed by police, and other subjects. He's very bright.

          Here's a sample;

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ
          As with all good comedy there's an element of truth and exaggeration in it. But judging by recent news headlines, it may not be that far off.

          I know one of the two biggest talks my friends and I've had with our sons is
          #1 ... The facts of life
          and
          #2 ... What to do if pulled over or confronted by police.
          Like keep your hands visible. Yes sir, no sir. No sudden moves, stay in the car unless told to get out, etc.

          Plus, I constantly drill him on it before giving him my car keys. He used to give me the eye rolls and sigh. Not anymore for some reason.
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

            As with all good comedy there's an element of truth and exaggeration in it. But judging by recent news headlines, it may not be that far off.

            I know one of the two biggest talks my friends and I've had with our sons is
            #1 ... The facts of life
            and
            #2 ... What to do if pulled over or confronted by police.
            Like keep your hands visible. Yes sir, no sir. No sudden moves, stay in the car unless told to get out, etc.

            Plus, I constantly drill him on it before giving him my car keys. He used to give me the eye rolls and sigh. Not anymore for some reason.
            GOOD advice! Just so all know, I am WHITE, and a WHITE officer once stopped me for NO reason, and said he almost shot me! He told me to NEVER get out of the car, and keep my hands on the steering wheel. He stopped me at about 1:30AM, and I was tired. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that WHITES have the SAME problem.

            Police officers DO have a LOT to worry about, and take their lives in their hands with any interaction. They want to hold as many cards as possible. So they would prefer you to be in an inferior position, like in the car, and with your hands visible, and restricted, like on the steering wheel.

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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              GOOD advice! Anyway, I wanted to let you know that WHITES have the SAME problem.

              Steve
              Bullsh!t , is all I can say to that
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Bullsh!t , is all I can say to that
                Sorry, It's TRUE!

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          • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            And the gifts he was talking about were swag bags for celebrities, getting perks for free, as part of publicity. He just bunched wealthy people with celebrities together, because it made a better narrative.
            Not surprising coming from an industry that awards and pats itself on the back roughly 50 times per year

            Can you say "narcissism"

            Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post


            I know one of the two biggest talks my friends and I've had with our sons is
            #1 ... The facts of life
            and
            #2 ... What to do if pulled over or confronted by police.
            Like keep your hands visible. Yes sir, no sir. No sudden moves, stay in the car unless told to get out, etc.
            I've had the same 2 talks with my sons. Especially #2. You'd be surprised how often even white teens get pulled over - especially when they have long hair (they were both in heavy metal bands). They got harassed often...even now in their mid 20's.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

              Not surprising coming from an industry that awards and pats itself on the back roughly 50 times per year

              Can you say "narcissism"
              It's all marketing. It isn't narcissism. These people's livelihood depends on how people perceive them....how well they are known. Do you think they actually enjoy going to one event after another? Going on endless talk shows...answering the same questions...trying to sound like this movie...is their dream movie.

              They are all clawing to the top....in an industry where only the top 1% make any money at all.

              I sit with national speakers...and listen to them position themselves as popular, in demand, wealthy....and they are still getting this check to pay last month's bills. They drop names, dress well......and are acting. They attend events they don't enjoy, and are friendly with people they hate.

              Of course, that doesn't describe everyone, or every instance. But it's a very common theme. A celebrity's job is being a celebrity. At the "self awarding events"...they are working.

              Narcissists? Some, I suppose.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                It's all marketing. It isn't narcissism. These people's livelihood depends on how people perceive them....how well they are known. Do you think they actually enjoy going to one event after another? Going on endless talk shows...answering the same questions...trying to sound like this movie...is their dream movie.

                They are all clawing to the top....in an industry where only the top 1% make any money at all.

                I sit with national speakers...and listen to them position themselves as popular, in demand, wealthy....and they are still getting this check to pay last month's bills. They drop names, dress well......and are acting. They attend events they don't enjoy, and are friendly with people they hate.

                Of course, that doesn't describe everyone, or every instance. But it's a very common theme. A celebrity's job is being a celebrity. At the "self awarding events"...they are working.

                Narcissists? Some, I suppose.
                I have no idea. I suppose some enjoy it and some don't. But I wasn't referring to promotional junkets for a new movie. I was talking about all the awards shows.

                I actually read that there are close to 600 awards shows in ALL of the entertainment industry around the world EVERY YEAR.

                Sorry, but that seems excessive to me. MANY livelihoods depend on perception - including mine. But I don't need an ego stroke to know how good I am at what I do. My work begets more work. Good actors get more work because they are good actors - or know a lot of producers

                There were big stars way back when there were only 3 awards shows too. But the TV, Movie and Music industries produce a LOT of fodder these days, so I suppose it makes sense to have all the shows. But please, don't try to convince me of it's virtue. It's as much to do with egos as it is publicity and livelihood
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            Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

            #2 ... What to do if pulled over or confronted by police.
            Like keep your hands visible. Yes sir, no sir. No sudden moves, stay in the car unless told to get out, etc.

            Plus, I constantly drill him on it before giving him my car keys. He used to give me the eye rolls and sigh. Not anymore for some reason.

            First...I'm truly sorry you have to have that talk with your son.

            One Sunday, I was working in my retail store. It was closed. I heard a noise in the back, and opened the back door. A policeman and a police dog were standing there. Someone had called, reporting that they saw someone inside my store.

            I said "Can I pet your dog?"

            Cop- "Do not pet the dog. Do not touch the dog. Why are you here?"
            Me- "I own the store. I'm working, and heard a noise out here."
            Cop "Can you prove it's your store?"
            Me (Smart ass me) "See my shirt? It says The Sweeper Store in huge letters. My license plate says SWEEPER. I've been here for 30 years. I have the key. It's my store"
            Cop "Show me some ID"......so I did. Because I knew that he was A. Just doing his job, and he is trained to do specific procedures....and B. Covering his own butt, if I wasn't really supposed to be there.

            Really, I just wanted to pet the dog. And after I showed my ID, we talked about dogs for awhile, I offered him a can of soda....and he left. After he did his duty..he wasn't a bad guy.

            But I know that you had to have the talk with your son, and that's wrong. Hopefully, he won't have to have that talk with his son.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              It's all marketing. It isn't narcissism.
              I'm going to have to disagree with you here, ol' chappy. The acting profession is a magnet for the narcissistic. I would flip the statement to the fact being that some aren't narcissists. Could I provide factual evidence? Probably. Am I going to? No. Too much effort for a Friday morning


              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              First...I'm truly sorry you have to have that talk with your son.
              Why are you sorry? Every parent should have that talk with their children. My dad had it with me. Maybe if every parent - regardless of color - had the talk with their children, we'd have less of these instances.
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                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Every parent should have that talk with their children. My dad had it with me. Maybe if every parent - regardless of color - had the talk with their children, we'd have less of these instances.
                This.

                I was getting the talk thirty-five years ago from my stepdad who was a cop at the time.
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                I'm going to have to disagree with you here, ol' chappy. The acting profession is a magnet for the narcissistic. I would flip the statement to the fact being that some aren't narcissists. Could I provide factual evidence? Probably. Am I going to? No. Too much effort for a Friday morning.
                You think you are disagreeing, but you aren't. You're just adding information. Acting is a magnet for narcissists, as is professional speaking. But that's not why there are so many award shows. Award shows feature nothing but stars, get high viewership, and the ad rates are high. There are deals with the "swag bag" suppliers, deals with dress makers, jewelry companies...and the actors get exposure. It's marketing. One huge reason to have an awards show...is to get the stars to appear for free.

                It's like producing a movie, and using heavy product placement, and getting toy sales from the characters. It's marketing, a business. And if you just took out the fact that they were applauding each other...it's a smart business model.


                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Why are you sorry? Every parent should have that talk with their children. My dad had it with me. Maybe if every parent - regardless of color - had the talk with their children, we'd have less of these instances.
                I'm sorry because the talk is more necessary, because of the color of his skin. You are right though, every parent should have that talk.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  You think you are disagreeing, but you aren't. You're just adding information.
                  In an attempt to be concise, I left myself unclear. Awards shows are not "all marketing," although marketing is a great deal of it. If the industry didn't have a narcissistic bent, one or two shows would be sufficient.



                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  I'm sorry because the talk is more necessary, because of the color of his skin. You are right though, every parent should have that talk.
                  It isn't more necessary. Something either is or isn't necessary. This talk we're referencing should be considered necessary by everyone. I'd even go so far as to say that this "talk" is even more important for everyone than "The Talk" (you know, the one your parents apparently severely screwed up).

                  Without the Birds and the Bees talk, I'm pretty sure we'd still figure out how to procreate. How to handle yourself when confronted by authority is not so evident.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                    How to handle yourself when confronted by authority is not so evident.
                    Dan; Handling yourself, when confronted by an authority figure...isn't an approach I would teach my son.

                    But in your case, it explains a lot.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      Dan; Handling yourself, when confronted by an authority figure...isn't an approach I would teach my son.

                      But in your case, it explains a lot.
                      I was going to put an equivalent quip in there, but felt it was overkill.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      In an attempt to be concise, I left myself unclear. Awards shows are not "all marketing," although marketing is a great deal of it. If the industry didn't have a narcissistic bent, one or two shows would be sufficient.
                      .
                      Dan; My point is that they are profitable to the producers of the shows. So the producers create lots of them. The actors don't produce the shows. They may be the narcissists.....but the people putting on all these awards shows? Are business people.

                      The people that put on (in a related story) multi-day events, with lots of speakers? They put them on solely because they are profitable. If ten events a year are profitable, twenty is twice as profitable.

                      Awards shows are like reality shows. Relatively cheap to produce, and have a high readership. The back deals on awards shows (sponsors) are another incentive for lots of shows.

                      The only reason there isn't an awards show every night, is that the audience would stop watching, ad revenues would disappear, sponsorship would go away....it wouldn't be profitable.

                      It's a business. The people acting in the shows are narcissists perhaps...but the producers? No.



                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      I was going to put an equivalent quip in there, but felt it was overkill.
                      Sorry, not retro witticism credit allowed. I don't make up the rules.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        It's a business. The people acting in the shows are narcissists perhaps...but the producers? No.
                        You don't think producers and studio heads are narcissists? Clearly, you're mad.





                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        Sorry, not retro witticism credit allowed. I don't make up the rules.
                        Fair enough.
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                        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                          Dan; My point is that they are profitable to the producers of the shows. So the producers create lots of them. The actors don't produce the shows. They may be the narcissists.....but the people putting on all these awards shows? Are business people.

                          The people that put on (in a related story) multi-day events, with lots of speakers? They put them on solely because they are profitable. If ten events a year are profitable, twenty is twice as profitable.

                          Awards shows are like reality shows. Relatively cheap to produce, and have a high readership. The back deals on awards shows (sponsors) are another incentive for lots of shows.

                          The only reason there isn't an awards show every night, is that the audience would stop watching, ad revenues would disappear, sponsorship would go away....it wouldn't be profitable.

                          It's a business. The people acting in the shows are narcissists perhaps...but the producers? No.

                          Sorry, not retro witticism credit allowed. I don't make up the rules.

                          Well, then it's not so special to get an award I guess. I mean, with all the awards shows, any half-way decent actor can almost expect one

                          Talk about devaluing something...


                          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                          You don't think producers and studio heads are narcissists? Clearly, you're mad.


                          Fair enough.

                          And drunk with power! Hahahaha!
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                          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                            Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                            Well, then it's not so special to get an award I guess. I mean, with all the awards shows, any half-way decent actor can almost expect one

                            Talk about devaluing something...
                            Mike; It's worse than that. Celebrities are contacted that they have won an award, as a way to get them to appear for free. Groups do this all the time....

                            A college giving an honorary degree, is part of the compensation. Sometimes, all the compensation, for a commencement address.

                            And to get listed in Who's Who? They spam business people and tell them that they have been selected...as the sole marketing method to sell copies of the directory.

                            And....associations are started by celebrities, and business people...for the purpose of awarding themselves an award, to use in marketing, and the association name lends credibility.

                            Do you have any idea how many times I've been notified by an organization, that I have won an award? Over a hundred times. All they want me to do is speak at their event...for free..and pay my own expenses. For a couple of years, I actually did it....what a noobie mistake. Industries that supply me, give me awards....instead of a lower price, or instead of a quantity discount. The association for my core industry, has me speak at their event every year. I get paid. Everyone else gets an award. I used to have a couple of large boxes, full of sales awards...company awards...I just got tired of moving the box (heavier every year) every ten years, and threw them away. If well known actors accepted every "award" offered to them, it would be a full time job.

                            Watch movies much? The review industry and awards shows are promoting the movie, and lending credibility...social proof...that the movie is great.

                            It's...all....marketing. There isn't anything evil about it, but it's all a business. Actors may be partly in the business because they are narcissists...but they are just attending. They are really just part of the hired help. The producers of the movie, or event.....are generating money. To them, it's math.

                            Are you old enough to remember the "Good Housekeeping Seal Of Approval"? Consumers really believed that it meant that the company had passed some sort of test. They did. They passed the test of buying multiple pages of advertising in Good Housekeeping Magazine.

                            Is an Oscar really earned? Probably. But the show is put on to generate revenue...not honor the film stars and directors. If the show didn't generate a direct profit for the event producers...it wouldn't exist.
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                              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                              Mike; It's worse than that. Celebrities are contacted that they have won an award, as a way to get them to appear for free. Groups do this all the time....

                              A college giving an honorary degree, is part of the compensation. Sometimes, all the compensation, for a commencement address.

                              And to get listed in Who's Who? They spam business people and tell them that they have been selected...as the sole marketing method to sell copies of the directory.

                              And....associations are started by celebrities, and business people...for the purpose of awarding themselves an award, to use in marketing, and the association name lends credibility.

                              Do you have any idea how many times I've been notified by an organization, that I have won an award? Over a hundred times. All they want me to do is speak at their event...for free..and pay my own expenses. For a couple of years, I actually did it....what a noobie mistake. Industries that supply me, give me awards....instead of a lower price, or instead of a quantity discount. The association for my core industry, has me speak at their event every year. I get paid. Everyone else gets an award. I used to have a couple of large boxes, full of sales awards...company awards...I just got tired of moving the box (heavier every year) every ten years, and threw them away. If well known actors accepted every "award" offered to them, it would be a full time job.

                              Watch movies much? The review industry and awards shows are promoting the movie, and lending credibility...social proof...that the movie is great.

                              It's...all....marketing. There isn't anything evil about it, but it's all a business. Actors may be partly in the business because they are narcissists...but they are just attending. They are really just part of the hired help. The producers of the movie, or event.....are generating money. To them, it's math.

                              Are you old enough to remember the "Good Housekeeping Seal Of Approval"? Consumers really believed that it meant that the company had passed some sort of test. They did. They passed the test of buying multiple pages of advertising in Good Housekeeping Magazine.

                              Is an Oscar really earned? Probably. But the show is put on to generate revenue...not honor the film stars and directors. If the show didn't generate a direct profit for the event producers...it wouldn't exist.
                              Totally hear you Claude.

                              But just to be clear - I don't think it's evil, or even wrong. I just think it's funny and narcissistic

                              But I solved that years ago - I watch exactly NONE of them. Because when all is said and done, I don't care.

                              Um, I USED to like Billy Crystals openings at the Oscars though. Some were pretty funny.
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                                Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                                Totally hear you Claude.

                                But just to be clear - I don't think it's evil, or even wrong. I just think it's funny and narcissistic

                                But I solved that years ago - I watch exactly NONE of them. Because when all is said and done, I don't care.

                                Um, I USED to like Billy Crystals openings at the Oscars though. Some were pretty funny.
                                I watch the Oscars sometimes.

                                I don't want you to think that I think the Oscars are rigged, or that the people don't deserve to win, only that the events themselves are produced to be profitable.
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                                • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                  I watch the Oscars sometimes.

                                  I don't want you to think that I think the Oscars are rigged, or that the people don't deserve to win, only that the events themselves are produced to be profitable.
                                  Deserve is a relative term. I've at times wondered just WHY a movie gets best picture or an actor gets best actor... LOL.

                                  I don't think they're rigged either. Just too many. Like "reality" tv shows.
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                                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                  I watch the Oscars sometimes.

                                  I don't want you to think that I think the Oscars are rigged, or that the people don't deserve to win, only that the events themselves are produced to be profitable by a bunch of narcissists.
                                  .Fixed it.
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              First...I'm truly sorry you have to have that talk with your son.

              One Sunday, I was working in my retail store. It was closed. I heard a noise in the back, and opened the back door. A policeman and a police dog were standing there. Someone had called, reporting that they saw someone inside my store.

              I said "Can I pet your dog?"

              Cop- "Do not pet the dog. Do not touch the dog. Why are you here?"
              Me- "I own the store. I'm working, and heard a noise out here."
              Cop "Can you prove it's your store?"
              Me (Smart ass me) "See my shirt? It says The Sweeper Store in huge letters. My license plate says SWEEPER. I've been here for 30 years. I have the key. It's my store"
              Cop "Show me some ID"......so I did. Because I knew that he was A. Just doing his job, and he is trained to do specific procedures....and B. Covering his own butt, if I wasn't really supposed to be there.

              Really, I just wanted to pet the dog. And after I showed my ID, we talked about dogs for awhile, I offered him a can of soda....and he left. After he did his duty..he wasn't a bad guy.

              But I know that you had to have the talk with your son, and that's wrong. Hopefully, he won't have to have that talk with his son.
              Yeah, it is bad that you had to go through that, but what if it WEREN'T your store? It sounds like he did a good job. And they probably don't want the dogs to get used to others, and might be afraid you will do something.

              Although unlikely, someone COULD have stolen your keys, taken your vehicle, and may have put on a shirt that was there.

              BTW, that is the SAME sort of thing that happened with Gates! HE was MORE obstinate, and offered less evidence and a lower form of ID, so if I were the police, I would likely have done the SAME thing! HE got a short arrest, probably out of spite for all the hassle, and YOU just have a little anecdote because, even though you think you were a smart ass, YOU complied!

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        • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
          Thanks for the video. That was the funniest thing I've seen all day
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Most of it was about celebrities, not just rich people. He's a comedian, and a damn good one. These observations are said in a comedic way, even though there is some truth to it.

          I've seen his concerts, I've seen his last few videos about how to not get harassed by police, and other subjects. He's very bright.

          Here's a sample;

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Here's an excellent Rolling Stone article/interview with Rock.

            "I work my jokes out the same way they do polls for the president. I go into clubs randomly - nothing to advertise that I'm going to be there - and try out the jokes. If they work, they stay in the act, and if they don't, they don't stay. And those jokes seemed fine. Anyway, it wasn't any edgier than when Sam Kinison did the jokes about Jesus' last words - and I was with him that night, his guest at Saturday Night Live. I was at Catch a Rising Star, joking about crack at this white club on the Upper East Side, with no one laughing except one guy in the back row, who turned out to be Sam. He's like, "Hey, what are you doing tomorrow? I'm hosting Saturday Night Live. You want to come?" I saw him do Jesus' last words - like, he was doing the hammer thing, banging on the stage. I watched him snort coke right before he went on! I was Pat Boone compared to that night."

            Chris Rock: The Rolling Stone Interview | Rolling Stone
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        So is multi-millionaire Rock offering to fly coach to protest the rich perks????

        Yeah, right.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    'Twas ever thus.

    It's just becoming more and more pronounced with the middle class disappearing.

    And it will end as it always has - tea being thrown into Boston harbour, the Bastille being stormed, etc., etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    The kind of perks Chris is talking about is fairly moot. The rich do get perks up the ying, though. I've lived in the upper end of small town America and there is favoritism, law bending, cronyism etc in the upper levels the keep the well off a privileged class in a lot of ways that aren't wallet connected.

    The main problem with the middle class disappearing is that it is taking the bridge to social mobility with it. It's one long jump between the surf class to the ruling class. Jumping middle class levels into the rich class is far easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Chris Rock was WRONG about SO much! First of all, VERY few fly first class for next to nothing, and most of THEM paid for COACH!!!!!! First class on most airlines on most flights now is a JOKE! I KNOW, I have been there, INCLUDING getting it for a "song"!

    First class varies from being basically a slightly more comfortable coach with a mere PRETENSE of luxury(Like real glass glasses instead of plastic cups), to something far better than we had in the1960s(Selection of decent hot meals, individual movie selection. swivel bucket seats that recline, etc.... But this is relatively uncommon, ESPECIALLY on domestic, and short distance, flights.).

    ALSO, most people generally won't let you into a lounge unless you PAY in some way, and the cost can be very high. It is like a country club, and may cost several hundred dollars a year. HEY, Warren Buffet HATES the way the airlines are. He doesn't even fly them. He even bought the company HE dealt with. Here is who HE flies with:

    https://www.netjets.com/AboutNetJets/

    And YEAH, you probably wouldn't fly their airline unless you had a big enough group or need, a rich benefactor, or were filthy rich.

    And they probably won't pay you to wear something unless you are a leader of prospects, or a popular celebrity. WHY? ADVERTISING! SO, Warren Buffet might never get that kind of deal.

    Still, it is amazing. Rock is filthy rich! As a comedian, he probably gets invited to gala events to even fill a seat! He may get invited to a lounge by a big benefactor or to help cheer people up. He might get suits or whatever. But he IS rich.

    MEANWHILE, the middle class have taxes and various costs passed along and it even hurts the economy, etc... And the government steals money from the middle class on the pretense to move it to the lower class, and end up hurting BOTH! But nobody complains about THEM!

    Are the rich rich? YEP! NOBODY knows how rich bill gates is. If he could get 100% of what he has been CLAIMED to have, he could easily fund over 27,000 peoples retirements at a good income level. I'm talking about an average of $125,000/year EACH for 16years assuming an average income of 0%! That is pretty rich. 16years is the average life expectancy after 65yo. STILL, much of that money is not that liquid and/or predictable.

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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
    It's funny that most celebrities actually get so much stuff for free & everybody is dying to get their picture. Lifestyles of the rich & famous I guess. There is only one Chris Rock though & he is awesome
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  • Profile picture of the author pauljones99
    Rich people have spare money..everyone else don't have 2 pennies. Why cAN'T POOR PEOPLE BECOME RICH? Most prefer to waste their time or don't want to. Their choice!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by pauljones99 View Post

      Rich people have spare money..everyone else don't have 2 pennies. Why cAN'T POOR PEOPLE BECOME RICH? Most prefer to waste their time or don't want to. Their choice!!!
      WOW! You think if you can save money, you are RICH!?!?!?!? If you don't have even 2 pennies left at the end of the month, it is worse than poor. CUT BACK! If you can't, TRY TO GET AHEAD! If you can't, try to do something else. But you should ALWAYS try to have a reserve, and NEVER pay all that you have.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I think that most of these perks mentioned in the article are not a "rich" person thing, but more of a "famous" person thing. The free stuff - like wearing the jewelry - disappears if you're just a rich CEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    Chris Rock, recently made a statement in New York magazine concerning the perks rich people get. While the basic premise is not entirely new. The divide seems to be getting wider, faster.

    What's your thoughts?

    Here's the short article.
    There are no FREE perks for being rich. Every single once of those perks has been paid for somewhere along the line. Even the tax breaks and advantages arent really intended to advantage the rich. They're intended to encourage investment and savings. It just happens that the rich do a lot more of that than the rest of us.

    First class perks are not free.... not until they start handing out first class tickets for free. Trust me, rich people PAID for those perks. Ever see the price of a first class ticket? It's not x2. It's x10.

    The rest of the stuff is more about celebrity than money. Nobody pays invisible rich people just for showing up. It's the flamboyantly visible rich people. And that's mostly in the frail ego driven world of clubs, fashion, celebrity and promotions.

    The real difference is that rich people can AFFORD to pay for all this stuff, directly and indirectly. Casually. Without caring. While the rest of us have to cut grocery coupons to eat.

    But they aren't getting it for free. Any more than that "free" room and "free" drinks at the vegas casino are really free.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Bill Cosby was EVEN given an honorary military title! It has been rescinded! He was ALSO forced to step down from a university board. UMASS asked him to step down also!

    I wonder how long it will be before the whole basis of everything he has ever done is removed. They clearly are trying. The next step would be rewriting any related history.

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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Some people are way richer than average. Some people are very poor. What is there to disagree with? I'm sure poor kids have seen rap videos flaunting wealth not to mention just about any TV show or movie that present daily life as more well-to-do than it would be for most Americans, I'd humbly reckon. That said, Chris Rock's comedy does work with me, sometimes not what he is saying but his delivery of it.
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