Why do people drink raw or unpasteurised milk?

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The death of a Victorian toddler and cases of four other children who became seriously ill after drinking unpasteurised cow's milk have prompted safety concerns. So what is unpasteurised milk and why are people drinking it?
  • Profile picture of the author Cali16
    Because pasteurization kills a lot of important nutrients in milk, among other things. Many people who can't tolerate pasteurized milk are able to tolerate raw milk.

    Here's an excellent article on the benefits of raw milk: Raw Milk Reality: Benefits of Raw Milk

    My 4 siblings and I grew up on raw milk - came straight from the milk cows we had on our farm. None of us ever got sick from drinking it. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I could access it easily. In the meantime I use whole, organic, 100% grass fed milk that's pasteurized.

    Grass fed and organic are important as well, as cows were never meant to eat corn, soy, and other grains. Their diet impacts the nutritional content of the milk, meat, and bones (for bone broth) - not to mention the ethical aspect. Factory farmed cows are treated cruelly, which is also why I buy 100% grass fed beef and dairy as much as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
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    There's a huge difference in what you're saying and the event mentioned in the OP.

    You're talking about getting milk pretty much straight from the cow. The event in the OP went through a number of different stages before it got to the consumers, shipping to the factory, bottling, shipping to the supermarkets, sitting on the supermarket shelves, etc..

    The particular milk products that caused the events were never meant for human consumption, they were supposed to be for bathing in. I'm not sure of the specifics but it sounds like they were sold from the same section of the supermarket as other dairy products, rather than the hygiene/beauty section they should've been in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Whateverpedia, I didn't see a link to any news story, but appreciate the additional info. I was merely answering the question he posed in the title of the thread, as well as in his post - i.e. why do people drink raw or unpasteurized milk.

      Yes, there are occasional stories of children becoming deathly ill from drinking raw milk, and that is heartbreaking (but what you describe is entirely different - he didn't make that clear in his post). Most of the time it's due to unsafe or unclean milking and / or handling procedures.

      It sounds like the store selling the product is mostly to blame for putting a product not meant for consumption in the food section. Very unfortunate.
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    Cali16

    I agree. I know people who live on dairy farms and swear by it. Having partaken of the milk myself, I found it to be a bit too rich for my taste, but I appreciate the health benefits.

    BTW, here's a link to the story: http://www.theguardian.com/australia...-seriously-ill
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Cali - you didn't see it because it's not there. If this milk was in the wrong section, then the store is at fault.

    I swear by raw. It's not very easy to get here and costs an arm and a leg when you can get it, but it's fresh so it's safe. Look at sour cream - which is...um...cream that went sour. Why do people not get sick from that? When someone screams about the unsafety of real, natural food -something is very wrong. One of those things can be washing the containers at the farm with chlorine instead of iodine.

    I grew up where the local dairy farmer sold all of the milk locally - raw and very rarely did anyone get sick from it, let alone die.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Thanks for the link, Whateverpedia. However, the article title is a bit sensationalized and misleading, since this wasn't regular raw milk meant for consumption. It doesn't really clarify the difference between "raw milk for bathing" and "raw milk meant for drinking" - so The Guardian is essentially lumping them together unfairly.

      The story would be quite different if the headline had indicated this was a cosmetic product that had been consumed by children...

      Unfortunately, whenever there's any incident whatsoever, despite the extremely low risk (I'm talking about raw milk for drinking, not bathing), it gets major media attention and turns into fear mongering. Personally, I resent the laws making raw milk illegal - the demand for it is there, but getting lawmakers to listen and honor consumer's ability to make intelligent choices for themselves is very difficult.

      There have been multiple petitions here in the states for the legalization of raw milk (it's legal in a few states to varying degrees - in my state you have to buy a herd share from one of the small number of farms who offer it (in addition to the cost of the milk), and then go pick it up each week - you can't buy it in the store here).

      Our food is so grossly over treated in various ways due to so-called safety issues. In the name of protecting everyone from every possible germ and so on, we've pretty much destroyed the vast amount of nutrition in so many of our foods via irradiation, pasteurization, other types of heat processing, bleaching, and other sterilization / decontamination / purification procedures - not to mention genetic modification or the toxic chemicals often used to grow it. Many of these"safety" procedures themselves trigger or contribute to myriad serious health issues, especially as those foods are consumed over time.

      Another good example of this is almonds - you can't buy raw almonds in the U.S. due to a very small number of people getting sick at some point from eating them, even though that risk is extremely small. The problem is, as with milk, pasteurizing almonds destroys vital nutrients.

      We do this to so much of our food it's nothing short of ridiculous. No wonder we've become increasingly sick, fat, and unhealthy. You can't thrive on dead food.

      It's ironic that many kid's foods - particularly cereals, beverages (sodas, juices), and candy - are loaded with toxic chemicals, preservatives, and dyes - but such a big deal is made over the dangers of raw milk. Raw milk is quite safe - if it comes from healthy cows and is handled properly.

      (Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now...!)
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Why do people drink raw or unpasteurized milk?

        Because nothing goes better with a sammy made from six day old turkey luncheon meat.

        Get to know that 'good' is.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The idea of selling a product that looks like, or is, milk that is so tainted is just WRONG! STILL, many companies try to figure out how to sell effectively WASTE! It is like the FED selling shredded and improper currency, or companies selling poorly designed;/packaged products.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      There have been multiple petitions here in the states for the legalization of raw milk (it's legal in a few states to varying degrees - in my state you have to buy a herd share from one of the small number of farms who offer it (in addition to the cost of the milk), and then go pick it up each week - you can't buy it in the store here).
      Here in New York you can buy raw milk from the farm (or at farmer markets) as long as it has been inspected first.
      Like you I grew up drinking raw milk straight from the cows teat.
      In fact when I would go outside to play as a kid I carried one of those collapsible cups in my pocket just for that, well that and drinking water from one of the many springs around here.
      I'd also bring home a quart or two from the farm up the road when I'd help milk their cows.
      I also really like Goats milk and have been thinking about getting a couple goats just for the milk.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        So what is unpasteurised milk and why are people drinking it?
        It's what comes from a cow - pretty simple.

        Banning raw milk because some kids were allowed to drink a milk meant for cosmetic purposes....is just stupid.

        Healthy cows, milked in a well kept environment on a farm, produce wonderful raw milk (and lovely cream) often consumed by those who live on the farm.

        I would never buy commercial unpasteurized milk...because you don't know where it comes from. Overly sensationalized story - only thing it proves is that parents need to supervise what their children are eating and drinking! I'll bet that somewhere on that "bath milk" it clearly stated "not for human consumption".
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          It's what comes from a cow - pretty simple.

          Banning raw milk because some kids were allowed to drink a milk meant for cosmetic purposes....is just stupid.
          Not only THAT, but it would be hypocritical, etc.... Did YOU know that Alcohol is a kind of universal solvent? Did you know it is WIDELY USED? etc....? So HOW do they keep people under 21 from going to any drug store, or convenience store and buy it to drink? I mean you can be 5yo and LEGALLY buy alcohol almost anywhere! They ADULTERATE it! If someone decided to buy the adulterated product, and drink it, they could REALLY be in trouble! Of course there are different kinds of alcohol and many would be bad ANYWAY, but STILL.....

          If we will ban milk because tainted varieties, for other uses, may be drunk, we might as well bring back prohibition for the SAME reason. We ALSO may set back a number of technologies quite a bit. Alcohol is used FAR more frequently than you may think! Wash your windows? Do you have pickles? Mustard? ketchup? Some cleansers? Windex? ALL somewhat traditionally have alcohol or its close cousin vinegar. VINEGAR is FRENCH for (sour wine)!

          I'll bet that someone on that "bath milk" it clearly stated "not for human consumption".
          If it is adulterated in any way, it certainly SHOULD. ALSO, since there is no reason to avoid it in such a case, it likely had some ingredients added to retard spoilage. Milk can spoil VERY fast, especially at room temperature.

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