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Nice move, GreenPeace. Keep it up!

by NRabosa
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They surely have made an impression, Out with the old, In with the new.

Peru Strikes Back After Greenpeace's Nazca Lines Stunt - NBC News

Of all places, why did they choose the Nazca Lines? I guess when push comes to shove, shock advertising such as this deserves severe punishment. Note: They only got 6 months, for chrissakes!
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I love Greenpeace and am not only shocked that they did this, I'm a little angry at them. We all know we need to stop letting corporations trash our planet - but desecrating ancient artifacts sure isn't helping that message. At all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Of all the times I've seen people and organisations shooting themselves in the foot, this is right up there.
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    It's not as bad as it looks.

    For sure it's a dumb idea, however it wasn't like they made any permanent markings on the ground. in fact with a strong gust of wind the whole thing would be gone.

    Still, a dumb idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author Electrical
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      It's not as bad as it looks.

      For sure it's a dumb idea, however it wasn't like they made any permanent markings on the ground. in fact with a strong gust of wind the whole thing would be gone.

      Still, a dumb idea.
      The article says that they made footprints there that would last a long time and they also destroyed one of the most important lines in the dirt.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      It's not as bad as it looks.

      For sure it's a dumb idea, however it wasn't like they made any permanent markings on the ground. in fact with a strong gust of wind the whole thing would be gone.

      Still, a dumb idea.
      In fairness looking at the ground I couldn't see a footprint anywhere or a line destroyed but it did say this in the article, though a 1000's of years seems a bit rich.

      "You walk there and the footprint is going to last hundreds or thousands of years," The Guardian quoted Castillo as saying. "And the line that they have destroyed is the most visible and most recognized of all."
      Whether it's true or not, I agree, dumb idea. I think it's more the sacredness of the area to the Peruvians that's really caused this as I can't see any destroyed line, mind you, I wouldn't if it had been destroyed.

      Another point, if the footprints of the Green Peace activists lasted 1000's of years, they'd be, um, probably a bit sacred by then too.

      Sorry, just thinking out loud.
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      • Profile picture of the author Electrical
        I wonder what would have happened if they put their letters on the side of the pyramids?
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        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
          Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

          I wonder what would have happened if they put their letters on the side of the pyramids?
          It'd attract lots of publicity, probably not the type they want though.
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          • Profile picture of the author Electrical
            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            It'd attract lots of publicity, probably not the type they want though.
            I'm thinking they would probably be shot before they finished. Hell, before they even started climbing the side lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              There is a line between concern and fanaticism and occasionally Greenpeace and other similar organizations get too full of their own message and violate the lines.

              When a group supposedly dedicated to the environment violates or damages an environment to push their agenda - they lose my support.

              I don't understand people who say "they shouldn't have done it but it wasn't a big deal". I think this is inexcusable.

              "We fully understand that this looks bad," Greenpeace said. "Rather than relay an urgent message of hope and possibility to the leaders gathering at the Lima UN climate talks, we came across as careless and crass."
              I don't buy that. I expect they knew just how crass it was - but thought THEIR message was more important and made a deliberate decision to do it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by Electrical View Post

              I'm thinking they would probably be shot before they finished. Hell, before they even started climbing the side lol.
              I'm not sure really, I think you can climb them anyway, at least at some times.

              They'd probably still shoot them though, they'd wait for them to get down first too so as not to get any claret on the pyramids.

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    Originally Posted by NRabosa View Post

    They surely have made an impression, Out with the old, In with the new.

    Peru Strikes Back After Greenpeace's Nazca Lines Stunt - NBC News

    Of all places, why did they choose the Nazca Lines? I guess when push comes to shove, shock advertising such as this deserves severe punishment. Note: They only got 6 months, for chrissakes!
    They COULD have started a photoshop enhanced rumor! WHY do this in real life? Do you have ANY idea how large this must be?

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    The more I think about it the more ironic it becomes.

    We are outraged over an ancient site being desecrated - but the living ecosystem, not so much? Corporations are actually threatening the existence of everything on earth right now, so their message, pretty much, does take precedence to all others. What relevance do these artifacts have when there are no humans left to wonder about them?
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The more I think about it the more ironic it becomes.

      We are outraged over an ancient site being desecrated - but the living ecosystem, not so much? Corporations are actually threatening the existence of everything on earth right now, so their message, pretty much, does take precedence to all others. What relevance do these artifacts have when there are no humans left to wonder about them?
      Don't get me wrong! I HATE the polluted food, water, land, etc... But Greenpeace apparently poisoned and littered ACRES of land! THAT is bad enough, but WORSE when you consider that they could have done it for a fraction of the cost and trouble, and NOT hurt the site AT ALL!!!!!

      I could have done it without leaving the couch, or missing a TV program!

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        We are outraged over an ancient site being desecrated - but the living ecosystem, not so much?
        Yes, it is outrageous. It's possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time. This was more outrageous to me because it's another example of a group or a few ignoring the history/rights/tradition/values of others to pursue their own agenda.

        Why?

        Because THEY decided what THEY have to say is MORE IMPORTANT than preservation of natural treasures/artifacts held dear by others.

        Because THEY think some English words (in a non-English country) carry more weight than a site of historical significance.

        It is a big deal and it should not be excused.
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