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Atlantis' Legendary Metal "Orichalcum" Discovered in a Sunken Ship

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Atlantis' Legendary Metal Found in Shipwreck : Discovery News


leaming cast metal called orichalcum, which was said by Ancient Greeks to be found in Atlantis, has been recovered from a ship that sunk 2,600 years ago off the coast of Sicily.
The lumps of metal were arriving to Gela in southern Sicily, possibly coming from Greece or Asia Minor. The ship that was carrying them was likely caught in a storm and sunk just when it was about to enter the port.
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"The wreck dates to the first half of the sixth century," Sebastiano Tusa, Sicily's superintendent of the Sea Office, told Discovery News. "It was found about 1,000 feet from Gela's coast at a depth of 10 feet."

Very Intereseting!


I wonder what else this shhip holds. Wonder where thi was being delivered from and to. Hmm..
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    "It was found about 1,000 feet from Gela's coast at a depth of 10 feet."
    And it took how many years to find it?
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, FIRST of all, orichalcum is apparently not really a metal. It is apparently an ALLOY! That is a VERY important distinction, because it then isn't some weird mysterious foreign element, but rather a cheap alloy, that is not that unusual.

    HOW does a ship sink 10 feet below water, and 1000 feet off the coast, and NOBODY is saved or escapes? And NO evidence is found?

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    • Profile picture of the author Jamie Thompson
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      OK, FIRST of all, orichalcum is apparently not really a metal. It is apparently an ALLOY! That is a VERY important distinction, because it then isn't some weird mysterious foreign element, but rather a cheap alloy, that is not that unusual.

      HOW does a ship sink 10 feet below water, and 1000 feet off the coast, and NOBODY is saved or escapes? And NO evidence is found?

      Steve
      There is a pure form of it written in the history books.

      The actual alloy is gold and copper. However orichalcum was written about being mined and the mines running out. So ho knows what this is?

      ø Orichalcum | Gold Alloys | Coin And Bullion Pages ø
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Jamie Thompson View Post

        There is a pure form of it written in the history books.

        The actual alloy is gold and copper. However orichalcum was written about being mined and the mines running out. So ho knows what this is?

        ø Orichalcum | Gold Alloys | Coin And Bullion Pages ø
        You DO realize that there ARE alloys that are mined too, right? TODAY, they take the alloys, like white gold, for example, and smelt them. One type of white gold, for example, that looks more like lead, is gold and silver.

        ALSO, there IS a RED GOLD which is often subdued, and called ROSE GOLD. There are ALL SORTS of types of such gold. They behave and look differently and, at least until the later 20th century, ALL had a value second only to gold. WHY? Because they were all alloys MADE with gold, and were often used for jewelry of some sort, or some kind of art.

        BTW RED/ROSE gold has COPPER as a major part! Colored gold - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Interesting - but which is it? 6th century or 2,600 years. That's a thousand year difference in two paragraphs. I wonder if they just left out BC accidentally in that sentence.

    Achaeologists have found that mining was going on over by Sumeria in the mountains (can't remember the name of that range) 11,000 years ago so there's a good chance that they were able to work with alloys. While there is a belief that Atlantis was a real place because of early literary reference, nobody really knows for sure because a continent that disappeared has yet to be found. It's very possible those 11,000 year ago miners may have called an alloy the same name because of early "legends".

    Not saying this wasn't an interesting story. It is. Just needs a few things purported a little more clearly.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Interesting - but which is it? 6th century or 2,600 years. That's a thousand year difference in two paragraphs. I wonder if they just left out BC accidentally in that sentence.

      Achaeologists have found that mining was going on over by Sumeria in the mountains (can't remember the name of that range) 11,000 years ago so there's a good chance that they were able to work with alloys. While there is a belief that Atlantis was a real place because of early literary reference, nobody really knows for sure because a continent that disappeared has yet to be found. It's very possible those 11,000 year ago miners may have called an alloy the same name because of early "legends".

      Not saying this wasn't an interesting story. It is. Just needs a few things purported a little more clearly.
      Back then apparently the Atlantiens, and another very advanced race, (Indian based, can't remember the name) had a war, and destroyed their civilizations.

      Or sent humanity back to the stone age!

      Plausible, since there are artifacts from that era on the Moon, and the Earth. Probably some artifact tech, still operating in Bermuda.

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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Back then apparently the Atlantiens, and another very advanced race, (Indian based, can't remember the name) had a war, and destroyed their civilizations.

        Or sent humanity back to the stone age!

        Plausible, since there are artifacts from that era on the Moon, and the Earth. Probably some artifact tech, still operating in Bermuda.
        Not sure how they sent Humanity back to the Stone age when they're talked about a great deal by Plato. I wouldn't really consider Plato a stone age man. In fact there are lots of people that think Plato made it all up.

        Atlantis (Ancient Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς νῆσος, "island of Atlas") is the name of a fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias, where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges "Ancient Athens", the pseudo-historic embodiment of Plato's ideal state
        Out of interest I'd be very keen to see more about these artifacts from that time period that made there way to the moon and what kind of artifact 'tech' is in Bermuda triangle and why's it there? Sorry for all the questions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Not sure how they sent Humanity back to the Stone age when they're talked about a great deal by Plato. I wouldn't really consider Plato a stone age man. In fact there are lots of people that think Plato made it all up.

          Out of interest I'd be very keen to see more about these artifacts from that time period that made there way to the moon and what kind of artifact 'tech' is in Bermuda triangle and why's it there? Sorry for all the questions.
          Without looking it up, I believe it was Homer and not Plato?
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Without looking it up, I believe it was Homer and not Plato?
            Too be honest you might well be right, I was just going by what I read here on Wiki and I didn't read all of it.

            Atlantis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

            I was just saying I don't think it was a war between Atlantis and another nation that sent the entire world back to the stone age, when the likes of Plato came afterwards.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              Not sure how they sent Humanity back to the Stone age when they're talked about a great deal by Plato. I wouldn't really consider Plato a stone age man. In fact there are lots of people that think Plato made it all up.



              Out of interest I'd be very keen to see more about these artifacts from that time period that made there way to the moon and what kind of artifact 'tech' is in Bermuda triangle and why's it there? Sorry for all the questions.
              Well, this is speculation on my part, as to the time period, for these things, but the first has been dated at more than 12,000 years old, and the second apart from being real, and purposely buried by NASA, has obviously been placed there by an advanced race!

              If we have most likely found a UFO, from that time period, then the tower on the Moon is more than likely. Adding to the fact that rumors have been spreading that these advanced cultures did have flying machines, that used antigravity.

              The Black Knight, A 13000 Year Old Alien Satellite?

              I computer enhanced this before, on an old thread, and found individual metal plates and what looks like windows and hatches, etc.

              Odd,s on a genuine UFO than asteroid!



              Tried to find the Apollo images of this thing sticking out of the darker moon background, but it isn't available.

              NASA buried most of these images, or all, since l couldn't find the original images.

              But whatever this thing is, it is very tall, and had or has guide wires on each side, at least the original image had this!

              Obvious question is, if it wasn't anything worthwhile then why did NASA delete them all?

              Obvious second question is, why are all the BS video easy to find, and the more likely to be genuine ones, buried or much harder to find???

              Some gov, and Google made a deal with anything that might upset them, so that the keywords would become ineffective after a while, so put up a video that threatens their power, and you won't find it, unless you are lucky!



              This guy isn't on drugs, or a nut, he just seems like a normal guy who went through this thing.

              This could be an ancient space/ time tunnel or wormhole from those times. After all if they were very advanced, and had flyer machines, or UFO,s then why not?

              A more detailed video, tells about what he experienced, and how it perfectly mirrors what scientists believe a wormhole would feel and look like. Although scientists believe it would require tremendous energy in a small space, but maybe there are shortcuts?

              THE LOST CITY OF ATLANTIS – The Facts | Strange Unexplained Mysteries

              Destroyed by an earthquake bought about by misusing advanced tech,?

              The Vimanas - The Ancient Flying Machines

              Fascinating stuff, consider the Nazi's messed around with morphing metals and high spin rates to create antigravity.

              But all they got was splitting headaches, and an irritating noise, eventhough the tech, had promise. Maybe they got the initial idea form ancient texts?

              Probably, as they said in Raiders, Hitler really was a nut on all of this, and saw the potential of ancient texts talking about ancient tech, that is more advanced than ours, well at least officially!

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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Thanks Shane.

                If it does exist, I'm probably leaning on rising sea levels to explain the disappearance and due to man's inability to find a 2000 odd year old ship a few feet down and 1 km off the coast, or aircraft that vanish in the sea in modern times, I'd say we've bugger all chance of finding it.

                Check out the image below of sea levels going back 16,000 years over Britain.

                http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content...oggerland2.jpg
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Thanks Shane.

                  If it does exist, I'm probably leaning on rising sea levels to explain the disappearance and due to man's inability to find a 2000 odd year old ship a few feet down and 1 km off the coast, or aircraft that vanish in the sea in modern times, I'd say we've bugger all chance of finding it.

                  Check out the image below of sea levels going back 16,000 years over Britain.

                  http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content...oggerland2.jpg
                  Although it might be at one of the poles?

                  A few sci-fi movies dabble into all of this, and create cool storylines with it!

                  Although not the blob, interesting idea, but a bit dumb!

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                • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Thanks Shane.

                  If it does exist, I'm probably leaning on rising sea levels to explain the disappearance and due to man's inability to find a 2000 odd year old ship a few feet down and 1 km off the coast, or aircraft that vanish in the sea in modern times, I'd say we've bugger all chance of finding it.

                  Check out the image below of sea levels going back 16,000 years over Britain.

                  http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content...oggerland2.jpg
                  1KM is about 3280.84 feet. STILL, my question is valid, but 1000FEET is practically right next door. To put this in terms most in the US can understand easily, it is less than 3 average size city blocks away, or not even 7 laps in a small pool, like most apartment buildings have.

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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              Too be honest you might well be right, I was just going by what I read here on Wiki and I didn't read all of it.

              Atlantis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              I was just saying I don't think it was a war between Atlantis and another nation that sent the entire world back to the stone age, when the likes of Plato came afterwards.
              Actually, now that I think about it some more, I think you're correct about Plato. Although I think Plato got much of his info from earlier texts.

              Homer wrote about Troy.
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                Actually, now that I think about it some more, I think you're correct about Plato. Although I think Plato got much of his info from earlier texts.

                Homer wrote about Troy.
                Yes, I did read the Wiki thing in the end at it does mention Homer and Troy. I think Plato borrowed a lot of earlier writings to create his stuff and as such seems to get most of the credit for it.
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Without looking it up, I believe it was Homer and not Plato?
            Homer. I never saw anything (that I remember anyway) about Plato referencing any earlier civilizations of controversial existence.

            A lot of literature from the ancients referenced past civilizations - lost civilizations. When the Ilsams took out the Library of Alexandria they destroyed what was probably our only full reference to the past we'll have have. We can only hope that maybe there's another one like it somewhere that escaped destruction that we just haven't found yet.
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            • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              When the Ilsams took out the Library of Alexandria
              I'm not quite sure who the "Ilsams" are, but the Library seems to have been burned down Julius Caesar - accidentally.
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