Why I think some people should be forced to run 20 miles a day.

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LOL, pretty funny read Richard, and l don't mean that in a personal way, l just haven't seen you dig in teeth like l or others here do!

But she lives in England, isn't the weather so bad over there, with the nasty rain and such, fat people have a good reason to stay at home?


Yes, she should say, l can't help eating this s*** because the elves put it there, or Santa delivers every day to our house?


Yes, l see individuals which are overweight in these carts at the shopping centre's, and feel sorry for then that some disability doesn't give them the option to lose weight. But l agree that someone like this that eats this crap all day long and rely's on a free scooter, does need outside help.

Well, send the boys around with some baseball bats, and kindly tell her to go walk around the country once or twice!



She can't help it, after all all that GMO has modified her genetic mackup, maybe she should sue; make millions so she can pig out in style?


Well she and her daughter can't help it, they are fat, overweight slobs with low IQ's!


Yes, l hate to say it, but she probably got another 1000 pounds for the media stint! Probably get a bigger fridge.

I think he's on their side. Maybe. Possibly. Perhaps.

You may take issue thats your right but calling someone else's opinion narrow minded shows you can't tolerate differing points of view...

Some say Obesity, some say Lifestyle Choice...

No. Obesity isn't a choice. But overeating is. Not being responsible for how you eat, or if you exercise, is a choice.

I'm nearly 100 pounds overweight. I accomplished that by not exercising, and eating enough to feed a family of four. That's why I'm fat. That's how you get fat. You take in more calories than you burn.

Overweight people don't deserve hatred. Grossly overweight people don't deserve criticism.

But they also don't deserve sympathy. It's not like we have no idea what causes obesity. It's not as though it's a mystery as to how to lose weight.

Richard isn't narrow minded...except that being narrow is more attractive, and will allow you to live a more mobile life.



Being obese is a disease, in the same way having long hair is a disease.

Right - and everyone child that plays organized sports deserves a 'participation trophy' - win or lose!

In rare instances obesity is a disease. Usually it's nothing more than a combination of bad choices, lack of self control before the fact, poor nutritional education and lack of will power after the fact.

When you tell people that they have a disease you give them permission to not try to do anything to overcome their situation. It's destructive because it does nothing more than exacerbate the problem.

Take it from someone who has lost over 100 pounds, twice.

Cheers. - Frank

ACTUALLY, they ARE ripping off MONEY! The "TAXES" are what the "political elite" call the money they STEAL to pay for favors! BTW I HATE the word elite here!

The media and they THEMSELVES call them "elite", and imply the #1 meaning above. Meanwhile, they are only peripherally in #2, and are just SCUM!

But YEAH, some of the poorest have this as a "lifestyle", and may even have lots of other ways they are bringing money in, so they are claiming poverty simply so they can get that much more on other peoples backs.

NOBODY would argue that paying less is an incentive. I think you have it BACKWARDS! Those that do less and risk less MAKE less!

FUNNY you should say this! A lot of the "political elite" say that SAME thing and often the VERY VERY poor AGREE with them! Frankly, I NEVER did! The ones in the top of the various branches should be paid LESS! WHY?

1. They generally do LITTLE good if anything!
2. They get a TON of benefits!
3. They get LOTS of free time.
4. They work far less time.
5. MOST aren't even qualified.

Steve

I'm sure you're totally right.

This is just a thread about the two people in the article and their attitude to eating, exercising and not working.

Yes, Agree

Surely not?!

Article quote, Janice said: "It costs £1 for a pasta ready meal, so why bother spending money on ingredients to cook?"

Answer... Why ? So you can have a chance to live to see 50 !!

That being said these women are just plain reckless. This really upsets me as there are many morbidly obese people who are responsible and for some reason or another ( whether it be a biological predisposition or a handicap or depression or a sedentary lifestyle etc..etc..) are morbidly obese.

Lets do not lump all these people with these two morons.
Please !!

Before I begin, a brief note for Zeus136.

I put a caveat in my post, I do hope you read it, it was there from the beginning. Here it is again.

As you can see, the bolded part refers to everyone with any kind of weight problem outside of the article. The bit in Italic is referring to the 2 people in the article.

Here's a story for you and any others that think I'm narrow minded or hateful which is not true. I know several people including my sister who have a weight problem. One of these people eats healthier than I do, exercises more than I do and looks after herself better than I do but bless her, she just doesn't seem to lose weight. Her 2 sisters are exactly the same. I suspect they may have some underlying issue that I doubt she's prepared to tell the world about, and I feel sorry for her.

Here's the point though. If she decided to give up the gym and the healthy food and instead went on a diet like those in the article and ate chocolate and crisps all day she'd get very big, even obese. She could then give up work and claim benefits and live just like those two, eating all day, getting paid better than most people and making sure that gym membership is never reactivated.

Also you need to understand what she brings in. Over 33k a year. The average wage at the start of last year was £26,500 for the whole of the UK. She lives in Fife, in Scotland, which is far cheaper than London. Look at the link below from last year and scroll through all the jobs to see what the average people earn here for actually doing various jobs and going to work.

UK average salary is £26,500 but figures reveal huge pay gap between rich and poor - official earnings list - Mirror Online

In fact I read a story once that back in the time when we all dwelled in caves and were hunter gatherer's, that the people who naturally don't put on weight were the ones that perished over the harsh winters whereas those able to bulk up during the summer months survived to see another one. That could be BS but perhaps today those people that put on weight very easily are the ones that used to survive in a world very unlike the one we live in today.

Either way, I'll tell you why I don't think these two people have a disease and are doing this for a life style choice below.

I'm not suggesting for one minute all overweight people are lazy or anything like that. I appreciate there are genuine medical and in some cases psychological issues. I'm just talking about these two in the article and others like that.


Sir, I take issue with your inability to read a newspaper article for what it is or read caveats at the end of posts. Here is why I take issue with your entire post.

I'm talking about these 2 people in the article.

1. The lady worked for ten years before she ate so much she chose to stop working. Lets look at that. She used to work. I suspect the work she did was either below or maybe even equal to the average wage (She was a call centre manager). Now she brings in well over the average wage and doesn't have to work. You say disease. I say lifestyle choice.

2. So now the disease has fully kicked in. She chooses not to eat fruit and healthy food as it's too expensive, even though she gets paid well above average wage.

3. She chooses not to diet because she tried it and it didn't work.

4. She chooses to buy paper plates so she doesn't have to wash up. Since when did that disease make you so lazy you buy plates to chuck away after eating instead of washing up normal plates while at the same time justifying eating junk food because it's cheaper than healthy food?

5. Her daughter doesn't have a gym membership and never will. She chose to not do any exercise and Janice actually said, and you really need to pay attention to this as you're saying she has a disease and I'm saying she has chosen this...

Read that again and again and again Zeus. See those dots at the end? That's where Janice forgot to add ..."and having to go to work".

You say disease, I say nonsense.

I remember you. You look just like in your old avatars and you're still writing.