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Breathe, And They'll Know You're In There

by positivenegative
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To the best of my knowledge we don't have this in the UK, yet, but do you think this is a good thing - for rooting out suspects, or a bad thing - as in if this becomes commonplace . . . what next?

At least 50 US police forces are believed to be equipped with radars that can send signals through walls. The Range-R sends out radio waves that can detect the slightest movements, including breathing, from as much as 50ft away.
Radar that 'sees' through walls raises privacy concerns
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

    To the best of my knowledge we don't have this in the UK, yet, but do you think this is a good thing - for rooting out suspects, or a bad thing - as in if this becomes commonplace . . . what next?



    Radar that 'sees' through walls raises privacy concerns
    NO radar, infrared, or similar device has the resolution to tell you precisely what is there. Supposedly devices like what you described HAVE been available though. Outside of doing something like looking for buried things where they shouldn't be, listening for sounds were they shouldn't be, or searching an open area that should be void of people, I think this is a violation of the 4th amendment.

    That said, L&O and MONK BOTH had episodes with DISASTERS averted because these devices were used in cases like I described.

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    Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

    To the best of my knowledge we don't have this in the UK, yet, but do you think this is a good thing - for rooting out suspects, or a bad thing - as in if this becomes commonplace . . . what next?



    Radar that 'sees' through walls raises privacy concerns
    It could be a good thing in the case of a collapsed building in trying to locate living people who are trapped. Like all of this type of technology though, it's very much a double edged sword.
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    • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      It could be a good thing in the case of a collapsed building in trying to locate living people who are trapped. Like all of this type of technology though, it's very much a double edged sword.
      Agreed.

      I think the problem is when this type of equipment is used for covert police surveillance in instances where it otherwise would never usually be openly sanctioned.

      Apart from that, I can just imagine the countless situations that this could be used in if it fell into the wrong hands.

      e.g. . . outside hotel rooms spying on cheating wives/husbands

      e.g. . . vacuum cleaner salesmen hammering at your door (knowing you are in)
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    In the US they have equipment that can "see" through the walls. It's similar to the x-ray machines that the TSA uses at the airports, but detects motion as well. Cable TV is also 2 way, and they can watch you via your cell phone cameras and computer web cams. And they do. We have a multi billion dollar data center being built (I believe it is now complete) in Utah that stores all this data and is capable of profiling every citizen in the country.

    I would imagine that the UK has the same technology.

    If you want to know what can be done - and is - the best place to search is the patent office or website. You wouldn't believe some of the surveillance patents there are. The patents also show exactly who owns the technology.
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    Seems doesn't work through metal.
    FLIR units would've been better.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Seems doesn't work through metal.
      FLIR units would've been better.
      A lot of that stuff doesn't work through any shiny metal. The age of tinfoil is truly on us now, no longer just an air raid siren for the apatternicity skiptic crowds.

      I wonder if it could be FLIR that the survelliance vans are driving. I know they can see inside your house but not sure that the TSA strip scanners, which they claim to be using, are, in fact, all they are using in those vans. They can see movement, and I don't think the x-ray scanners can.

      They also have aural detection and I am not sure what material you would need to use to stop that, either.
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