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High School In 1970 Vs 2015

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Some great comparisons

High School In 1970 Vs 2015. This Is So Accurate It Hurts.
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    Yup. Maybe an exaggeration....but true enough.
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    Utter horse crap. But still good for a laugh. And boy do I need some of that.
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      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Utter horse crap. But still good for a laugh. And boy do I need some of that.

      Really? What was your school experience in 1970?
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      • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Really? What was your school experience in 1970?
        Oh give it a rest Joe.
        This an obvious poke at pre- and post- 9/11 American paranoia.
        Waay too generalized with high doses of utter bullsh*t.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Interesting look on things .I guess the point in this piece is to show whether or not things were better off in our Society back then in 1970. Which apparently a lot of people think so.

          Also you could say this...


          1970
          " A black talented and smart basketball player had almost a nil chance of getting into an SEC school.As there were only two players/students at this time

          2015
          " The black talented and smart basketball player is rightfully embraced by ALL divisions of College Athletics and Academia


          1970
          A black basketball , football, or baseball Coach ? Are you kidding me ? They were still looked upon almost as sub human by much of America.

          2015
          " America finally started getting smart and now black hirees in all these professions are rightfully implemented.


          1970
          Corporate Executives were leery of approaching any African Americans for any positions of high office

          2015
          We have a Black president need I say more !


          So this notion of whether we have such a crappy Society we live in is ALL Subjective based on who you talk to.


          Go ask General Colin Powell of which he prefers , 2015 or 1970
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Interesting look on things .I guess the point in this piece is to show whether or not things were better off in our Society back then in 1970. Which apparently a lot of people think so.

            Also you could say this...


            1970
            " A black talented and smart basketball player had almost a nil chance of getting into an SEC school.As there were only two players/students at this time

            2015
            " The black talented and smart basketball player is rightfully embraced by ALL divisions of College Athletics and Academia


            1970
            A black basketball , football, or baseball Coach ? Are you kidding me ? They were still looked upon almost as sub human by much of America.

            2015
            " America finally started getting smart and now black hirees in all these professions are rightfully implemented.


            1970
            Corporate Executives were leery of approaching any African Americans for any positions of high office

            2015
            We have a Black president need I say more !


            So this notion of whether we have such a crappy Society we live in is ALL Subjective based on who you talk to.


            Go ask General Colin Powell of which he prefers , 2015 or 1970
            Except the original post wasn't about society in general but about school.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

              Except the original post wasn't about society in general but about school.
              Some of what I wrote about was and could be related to High school. In other wards many of the Black High School seniors had little option to attend certain Universities in the US back in 1970.

              So part of it is truly relevant

              The point of the article is not to be just specific as it relates to High school in of itself.

              If you think that was what this Article was about then you are misinterpreting it. And not correctly looking at the big picture of the inherent meaning behind it. And why it was written.

              The fact of the matter is the article used High School to exhibit the view of some people towards the decay of values and ideas and behaviors in our Society( notably the Youth) from 1970 to present day.

              I was presenting counter arguments that prove in some aspects and in SOME peoples' views things have not decayed since 1970 but actually have gotten better

              As I have duly noted in many Threads before this, it is very subjective to analyze Society and decide whether we have progressed or regressed over a period of time.
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              • Profile picture of the author ThomM
                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Some of what I wrote about was and could be related to High school. In other wards many of the Black High School seniors had little option to attend certain Universities in the US back in 1970.

                So part of it is truly relevant

                The point of the article is not to be just specific as it relates to High school in of itself.

                If you think that was what this Article was about then you are misinterpreting it. And not correctly looking at the big picture of the inherent meaning behind it. And why it was written.

                The fact of the matter is the article used High School to exhibit the view of some people towards the decay of values and ideas and behaviors in our Society( notably the Youth) from 1970 to present day.

                I was presenting counter arguments that prove in some aspects and in SOME peoples' views things have not decayed since 1970 but actually have gotten better

                As I have duly noted in many Threads before this, it is very subjective to analyze Society and decide whether we have progressed or regressed over a period of time.
                True but I think you're reading way more into the post then was intended.
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              Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

              Except the original post wasn't about society in general but about school.
              True that it wasn't really about High School.

              But it reflected other changes....in other areas of our society.

              And some are positive, and a few are negative.

              But the High School comparison really hit home, because I was in high school in 1970. and the differences were only slightly exaggerated.

              Another difference was;

              In 1970, a teacher would hit you with a hardwood board...that really hurt, for talking back to a teacher. And we would take it, and probably learn not to do it again.

              Today? I'm not in High School. But I'm guessing it isn't the same.

              Of course, in 1970, people didn't wear seat belts, and driving while drunk, wasn't even a crime (that got punished.)

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              I was presenting counter arguments that prove in some aspects and in SOME peoples' views things have not decayed since 1970 but actually have gotten better
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              I didn't see it as a counter argument. I just saw it as additional information.

              In almost every meaningful way, I like it better now, but...Man....we are sure coddling the young. At least that's my point of view.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Of course, in 1970, people didn't wear seat belts, and driving while drunk, wasn't even a crime (that got punished.)
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Another difference was;

                In 1970, a teacher would hit you with a hardwood board...that really hurt, for talking back to a teacher. And we would take it, and probably learn not to do it again.
                Yeah, 1978 and 1979, my fifth grade Teacher Mrs. Gwinn was old school.

                She had this huge Old Wooden Paddle with holes in it. And she would pound the hell out of any boys that misbehaved ( of course, paddling girls was never an option). Incidentally, the holes made the paddle accelerate faster and put more sting in it

                She also everyday read a passage from the Bible and never missed it.

                Things have changed, no doubt
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                In almost every meaningful way, I like it better now, but...Man....we are sure coddling the young. At least that's my point of view.
                Yeah, boys were boys back then. I remember in 1st grade everyday I would be chased by this group of other kids. I told them one day I was tired of it and I was going to turn around and swing.

                I closed my eyes one day and just swung around and by chance I nailed this kid named Randy square on the chin and he bleed something fierce. He had to get stitches. The Principle never even called my Mom or anything.

                I told my Mom and Dad about it years later.

                I guess it wasn't right not to call my parents but back then it was no big deal. Probably wasn't a good thing but they let us kids handle it our own way.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                  Yeah, boys were boys back then. I remember in 1st grade everyday I would be chased by this group of other kids. I told them one day I was tired of it and I was going to turn around and swing.

                  I closed my eyes one day and just swung around and by chance I nailed this kid named Randy square on the chin and he bleed something fierce. He had to get stitches. The Principle never even called my Mom or anything.

                  I told my Mom and Dad about it years later.

                  I guess it wasn't right not to call my parents but back then it was no big deal. Probably wasn't a good thing but they let us kids handle it our own way.
                  Yea, fights were sometimes broken up by teachers. Sometimes not. But it was settled, and that was that.

                  Calling the parents? Probably if there was a trip to the hospital. But call parents because you were in a fight? Never.

                  One kid (in high school) in my gym class, told a woman teacher to go F..herself. The gym teacher found out, and beat the kid in front of the gym class. He even kicked him in the ribs a couple times. A real beating. That was the end of it.

                  To me, he went too far. But the kid was respectful to Mrs. Snell...from that day forward.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                True that it wasn't really about High School.

                But it reflected other changes....in other areas of our society.

                And some are positive, and a few are negative.

                But the High School comparison really hit home, because I was in high school in 1970. and the differences were only slightly exaggerated.

                Another difference was;

                In 1970, a teacher would hit you with a hardwood board...that really hurt, for talking back to a teacher. And we would take it, and probably learn not to do it again.

                Today? I'm not in High School. But I'm guessing it isn't the same.

                Of course, in 1970, people didn't wear seat belts, and driving while drunk, wasn't even a crime (that got punished.)


                I didn't see it as a counter argument. I just saw it as additional information.

                In almost every meaningful way, I like it better now, but...Man....we are sure coddling the young. At least that's my point of view.
                In 1970 I was raising a family so I'm a little ahead of you there Claude Just like Discrats rant about racism then doesn't apply to the original post, neither does wearing seat belts or drunk driving.
                I do agree that we are coddling the young now especially in schools.
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            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Interesting look on things .I guess the point in this piece is to show whether or not things were better off in our Society back then in 1970. Which apparently a lot of people think so.

            Also you could say this...


            1970
            " A black talented and smart basketball player had almost a nil chance of getting into an SEC school.As there were only two players/students at this time

            2015
            " The black talented and smart basketball player is rightfully embraced by ALL divisions of College Athletics and Academia


            1970
            A black basketball , football, or baseball Coach ? Are you kidding me ? They were still looked upon almost as sub human by much of America.

            2015
            " America finally started getting smart and now black hirees in all these professions are rightfully implemented.


            1970
            Corporate Executives were leery of approaching any African Americans for any positions of high office

            2015
            We have a Black president need I say more !


            So this notion of whether we have such a crappy Society we live in is ALL Subjective based on who you talk to.


            Go ask General Colin Powell of which he prefers , 2015 or 1970
            "rightfully"? "RIGHTFULLY"!?!?!?!?!?!?!? FRANKLY, college was NOT created for sports, and nobody should get special treatment simply because of sports. That isn't racist, I have always felt that way PERIOD, BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN, MALE, FEMALE, etc....

            A coach with a good and proper background SHOULD be accepted, regardless, but the early 1970s WERE on the cusp of some jim crow fallout.

            As for the current president? It would have been nice if it were anyone else. MANY that would have voted for Ben Carson in a heart beat have said they might not after today's garbage. It is a shame, because he sounds like he could make a good president. His SINGLE MOTHER was DIRT POOR, and he has probably seen a lot of the bad, and is today a respected surgeon! Oh, and YEAH, he is black! And even a lot of WHITES BEGGED him to run in 2016!

            Colin powell has been better off than MOST(Whether black OR white) in his position for DECADES! He was in the ROTC and joined the army as a 2nd lieutenant(in 1958) like ANY OTHER successful graduate! So he got NO racism or preference there! MANY go in as a buck private! Even JROTC only gets you to like sergeant! ROTC is 2nd lieutenant! But he took it as a career, and apparently had his first promotion after 2 years, and EIGHT since! I don't think they currently have any position above that! Historically, they have only had two, general of the army, and general of the armies.

            He got his MBA in 1971! He had his first whitehouse post in 1972! I COULD go on, but you probably know all that. Would he have traded that for TODAY? Probably NOT! He has indicated that he is as disappointed in the current state as I am! And does racism exist today? YEP!

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          Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

          Oh give it a rest Joe.
          This an obvious poke at pre- and post- 9/11 American paranoia.
          Waay too generalized with high doses of utter bullsh*t.
          No, you give it a rest. Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the news over the past few years. I can see you like making general statements without anything to back them up.

          All Claude did was ask you a simple question. You had no answer, so you responded with an asinine retort.

          Student suspended for saying 'bless you'

          13-year old boy suspended for twirling pencil in "gun motion" manner

          New Jersey school suspends boy for allegedly making

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          There are hundreds of examples like this where teachers and/or administrators over react to certain situations. Of course, it's a catch-22, because if something DOES happen then everyone gets accused of not doing something. It's the times we live in now.

          All the OP was pointing out is that times have changed. No need to make it something it's not.

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            Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

            No, you give it a rest. Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the news over the past few years. I can see you like making general statements without anything to back them up.

            All Claude did was ask you a simple question. You had no answer, so you responded with an asinine retort.

            Student suspended for saying 'bless you'

            13-year old boy suspended for twirling pencil in "gun motion" manner

            New Jersey school suspends boy for allegedly making

            Idaho boy suspended after bringing toy gun to school | Fox News

            There are hundreds of examples like this where teachers and/or administrators over react to certain situations. Of course, it's a catch-22, because if something DOES happen then everyone gets accused of not doing something. It's the times we live in now.

            All the OP was pointing out is that times have changed. No need to make it something it's not.

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              Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

              Ever heard that saying 'You made your bed, now sleep in it'.
              Ah yes, another brilliant response. Keep 'em coming WC. I've got a whole bucket of popcorn ready.

              You still haven't told us about your extensive high school experience from the 1970s. Still waiting on that one........

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              Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

              Ever heard that saying 'You made your bed, now sleep in it'.
              Ever hear the saying .... See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya
              I'll take my bed over yours any day of the week.
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          Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

          Oh give it a rest Joe.
          This an obvious poke at pre- and post- 9/11 American paranoia.
          Waay too generalized with high doses of utter bullsh*t.
          Based on some earlier videos about you, etc... I'm guessing you have no experience with EITHER era!

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          Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

          Oh give it a rest Joe.
          This an obvious poke at pre- and post- 9/11 American paranoia.
          Waay too generalized with high doses of utter bullsh*t.
          In our town high school, there was a student who, with his dad, participates in reenactments (civil war to be exact). One Friday, he put his uniform - including the REPLICA civil war era gun - in his back seat because he was leaving directly from school.

          Someone reported seeing a gun in his car. Police called. Kid dragged out of class, taken to the police station for questioning.

          At least two of his teachers tried explaining what the kid had in his car, but now there's the "zero tolerance policy" that HAD to be enforced. The kid was expelled - not suspended...expelled - for bringing a "non-working" gun on school grounds (locked in his car).

          By the way, he was a straight A student who never had a discipline problem.

          So, yes. this does happen.

          He eventually got back in, but it took a few months and lawyers had to get involved.

          Then there was the fifth grader who went through something similar for bringing a swiss army knife to school.

          And there's more.
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            Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

            In our town high school, there was a student who, with his dad, participates in reenactments (civil war to be exact). One Friday, he put his uniform - including the REPLICA civil war era gun - in his back seat because he was leaving directly from school.

            Someone reported seeing a gun in his car. Police called. Kid dragged out of class, taken to the police station for questioning.

            At least two of his teachers tried explaining what the kid had in his car, but now there's the "zero tolerance policy" that HAD to be enforced. The kid was expelled - not suspended...expelled - for bringing a "non-working" gun on school grounds (locked in his car).

            By the way, he was a straight A student who never had a discipline problem.

            So, yes. this does happen.

            He eventually got back in, but it took a few months and lawyers had to get involved.

            Then there was the fifth grader who went through something similar for bringing a swiss army knife to school.

            And there's more.
            Good. Next step- man up to the NRA.
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            Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

            In our town high school, there was a student who, with his dad, participates in reenactments (civil war to be exact). One Friday, he put his uniform - including the REPLICA civil war era gun - in his back seat because he was leaving directly from school.

            Someone reported seeing a gun in his car. Police called. Kid dragged out of class, taken to the police station for questioning.

            At least two of his teachers tried explaining what the kid had in his car, but now there's the "zero tolerance policy" that HAD to be enforced. The kid was expelled - not suspended...expelled - for bringing a "non-working" gun on school grounds (locked in his car).

            By the way, he was a straight A student who never had a discipline problem.

            So, yes. this does happen.

            He eventually got back in, but it took a few months and lawyers had to get involved.

            Then there was the fifth grader who went through something similar for bringing a swiss army knife to school.

            And there's more.
            WOW! And to say "non working gun" is likely an UNDERSTATEMENT! There are FAKE guns MADE for such things! OTHERS may even be filled with lead!!!!! I went to a military school(MY CHOICE, BTW), and the rifles paraded with WERE filled with LEAD! They were heavier, but also totally incapable of ever firing. Don't get me wrong though. They DID have a firing range, and we DID shoot REAL guns, that looked the same as what we paraded with, but were real military rifles. Marksmanship was actually a required part of the military instruction.

            WOW, when I was a kid, it seemed like MOST kids had swiss army knives. My aunt and uncle got me one, and I kept it with me CONSTANTLY! When I had to get a DBA was when I FIRST had to leave it in my car. WHY? Because the DBAs were from the county clerks office which was in the court building, and they had a metal detector there to avoid problems in the court rooms. So they found my little knife, and asked me to put it somewhere. Outside of that, I took it EVERYWHERE, until I started flying, and they wouldn't let me take it on the plane.

            BTW when I was a little kid, I took of my wind breaker, and emptied a pocket, and my father started LAUGHING! OH, he had a GOOD laugh! I asked him WHY! He said We just flew from California, to Wisconsin, and you had that in your packet the WHOLE TIME!?!?!?!? I said YEP! And he mentioned the metal detectors never went off! I had a maybe 12" METAL lockvise plier, like this:

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            Those were the days!

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        What struck me was how LITTLE it's exaggerated.

        My younger son and I were talking about something similar a few months ago when he came to help me pack for the move. He said he would have ended up a ward of the court these days. He was a good kid - no talking back - helped out at home and we got along great.

        He was a bit "entrepreneurial" - experimented with making gunpowder (successful) and rocket fuel (not so much) in his room at home (terrorist kid). He printed and sold "matrices" for Dungeons and Dragons (gambling)...all this before he hit his teens.

        We have our kids under control now, though. They can't do crazy stuff or take any risks - they are always connected to us by phones and gps, etc - so they can be found or tracked. So... they do drugs.

        Waay too generalized
        And, living in Sri Lanka (supposedly) you know this....how?
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          What struck me was how LITTLE it's exaggerated.

          My younger son and I were talking about something similar a few months ago when he came to help me pack for the move. He said he would have ended up a ward of the court these days. He was a good kid - no talking back - helped out at home and we got along great.

          He was a bit "entrepreneurial" - experimented with making gunpowder (successful) and rocket fuel (not so much) in his room at home (terrorist kid). He printed and sold "matrices" for Dungeons and Dragons (gambling)...all this before he hit his teens.

          We have our kids under control now, though. They can't do crazy stuff or take any risks - they are always connected to us by phones and gps, etc - so they can be found or tracked. So... they do drugs.

          And, living in Sri Lanka (supposedly) you know this....how?
          I was in classes where we worked with powertools, torches, arc welders, and Estes Rocket engines! There was also free trading, by students, in fireworks and explosives of various kinds until late 1970! Explosives WERE illegal, but existed. Fireworks were made illegal in like the mid 1970s, and imported ones were illegal earlier, but they were still not THAT bad. The school I last went to apparently declared them bad enough to lead to expulsion in the late 1970s. The Rocket engines and other stuff I mentioned was provided by, and condoned by, the school.

          And TODAY? Do they even allow power tools or torches? If they don't allow pastry cut in a vague gun like shape, WHY would they allow an estes rocket engine?

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      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Utter horse crap. But still good for a laugh. And boy do I need some of that.
      YEP! Being in a fight did NOT generally end with the two being friends. Otherwise, YEP, horses have to go like every other living creature. What's your point?

      BTW I have had personal experience with the 1970s, and we are living through news reports and debates of how school is NOW!

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      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Utter horse crap. But still good for a laugh. And boy do I need some of that.
      Lemme guess, you're a Republican and you adore Fox News.
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        Originally Posted by boydstone View Post

        Lemme guess, you're a Republican and you adore Fox News.
        WOW! FANTASTICALLY BAD GUESS!!!!!!

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    I was in high school between 1969 and 1972. It was a small town of just over 10,000 - and that is exactly what it was like at our High School. We had the "smoking tree" across the street that the smokers would go to during breaks.........and if you went with them to gab and a neighbor saw you, even if you weren't smoking, they would tell your parents that they saw you at the smoking tree.

    I don't think guns were allowed in class, but they sure were in a lot of the cars and trucks in the parking lot. Nobody ever got shot - or even threatened, but you'd see a lot of the guys at the target range after school - or in the fall they'd just light out to go hunting after school.

    In my school the worst violence we ever had was a few fist fights and one or two cat-fights (of course, always over guys). If guys got caught fighting at school, they got hauled to the gym where they put on boxing gloves and had to get on the mat to sort it out with the coach or other teacher playing referee.

    If we were at a party and got caught drinking by the cops, the cops took us straight home and handed us to our parents.

    Things are so crazy now that kids can't even be kids. No matter what they do there's someone acting like a pit bull that's been fed gun powder on top of them carting them off to jail. That's the real crime in my eyes.
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    Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

    Much of it is accurate, but some is plain wrong. I find the ADD statement is plain ignorant and obnoxious. They were pushing ritalin on kids big-time in the 1970s. They tried to push it on me (in the hopes of drugging me out of autism), but my mother wisely refused. Here's a thought: society may actually be more knowledgeable and enlightened about some things in 2015 then they were in 1970.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      Much of it is accurate, but some is plain wrong. I find the ADD statement is plain ignorant and obnoxious. They were pushing ritalin on kids big-time in the 1970s. They tried to push it on me (in the hopes of drugging me out of autism), but my mother wisely refused. Here's a thought: society may actually be more knowledgeable and enlightened about some things in 2015 then they were in 1970.
      OK, you have a point there. Apparently they tried to do the same with me. That is odd, since I really WAS pretty well behaved. Even my mother and father have openly said that, and how lucky they were. I never had to ask.

      But in the 1970s, you COULD refuse! Apparently later you COULDN'T!

      Butters,

      With young kids, cap guns WERE popular. But you could take a real gun. Nobody was afraid of their neighbors, etc... students FOUGHT, but that was about as far as it went.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      Much of it is accurate, but some is plain wrong. I find the ADD statement is plain ignorant and obnoxious. They were pushing ritalin on kids big-time in the 1970s. They tried to push it on me (in the hopes of drugging me out of autism), but my mother wisely refused. Here's a thought: society may actually be more knowledgeable and enlightened about some things in 2015 then they were in 1970.
      Well, then there's the fact that some of the OP's scenarios are a direct result of horrendous school shootings and violence. It's definitely a different world we live in today.

      When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to get outside. I'd play all day without my mother really knowing where exactly I was ... anywhere in the neighborhood would be fair game or at anyone's house in the neighborhood. I didn't really have to check in much and only did so because I got hungry or hot or tired.

      I can't remember a house where we locked the doors ... ever, unless we were going away on vacation.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Well, then there's the fact that some of the OP's scenarios are a direct result of horrendous school shootings and violence. It's definitely a different world we live in today.

        When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to get outside. I'd play all day without my mother really knowing where exactly I was ... anywhere in the neighborhood would be fair game or at anyone's house in the neighborhood. I didn't really have to check in much and only did so because I got hungry or hot or tired.

        I can't remember a house where we locked the doors ... ever, unless we were going away on vacation.
        I can remember back in 1973 when I was 5 we were in Daytona beach. The day before my brother (around 12 years old) went down the beach for two hours by himself. He came into our rented beach condo bragging about his feat.

        So me the big competitor I was at the ripe old age of 5 proceeded down the beach by myself for over 4 hours. My parents came looking for me with the Lifeguard.

        When they found me it was no big deal.

        Maybe since I was the youngest of five if they lost me it was no bid deal. LOL

        But I think the times were different back then and kidnapping and predators were not on parents' minds.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

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        When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to get outside. I'd play all day without my mother really knowing where exactly I was ... anywhere in the neighborhood would be fair game or at anyone's house in the neighborhood. I didn't really have to check in much and only did so because I got hungry or hot or tired.

        I can't remember a house where we locked the doors ... ever, unless we were going away on vacation.
        This was my childhood exactly!

        We never locked the doors either. As a matter of fact, we came home from Grama's house one Sunday afternoon and found two neighbor girls sitting on the kitchen floor eating our cereal and cookies, lol! My dad was so mad, he gave them each a swat on the butt and sent them home.

        Can you imagine what would have resulted if he were to do that in this day and age?

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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Well, then there's the fact that some of the OP's scenarios are a direct result of horrendous school shootings and violence. It's definitely a different world we live in today.

        When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to get outside. I'd play all day without my mother really knowing where exactly I was ... anywhere in the neighborhood would be fair game or at anyone's house in the neighborhood. I didn't really have to check in much and only did so because I got hungry or hot or tired.

        I can't remember a house where we locked the doors ... ever, unless we were going away on vacation.
        Sure, I acknowledge that. I did say much, but not all of it was true, and pointed out one that's erroneous. It was also a time when elections were held on hand-counted paper ballots and, unlike nowadays in the USA, election results actually matched raw exit poll results.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

          Sure, I acknowledge that. I did say much, but not all of it was true, and pointed out one that's erroneous. It was also a time when elections were held on hand-counted paper ballots and, unlike nowadays in the USA, election results actually matched raw exit poll results.
          Well, the US DOES have even CITIES that count things differently, though they should have things setup more fair. But the US has had access to effectively computerized polling since BEFORE current computers existed. The first "computer" that IBM made was for that purpose, and even predates IBM itself! Here's one in 1890!

          Tabulating machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          BTW the Hollerith code, shown on that card, was even used by the very last punched card that probably existed even to the 1990s!

          As for exit polls, there was probably less violent disagreement earlier, outside of things like lincoln's time, and I don't trust local polling techniques, whether in exit polls, or actual votes, anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Scenario 1 sounds awesome in the 70's (always to young to experience the good stuff !!) In England it would replace shot gun with cap gun but hey ho, good times .
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Part of the problem is that kids no longer know how to communicate with one another. Virtual has become their reality. I've seen it happening even with some of my own kids friends. They'll chat all day on facebook - or whatever the newest social app is - and then when they actually get together in person, it's as if they don't know one another.

    And when you don't know anyone - it becomes you against the world, and empathy is lost.

    I love the internet, but it's really killing our kids socially.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I had kind of day trips, even younger than 8, that were almost like the beaver type. I would go to different stores, talk with people, etc... I took my bike MILES from home. I don't know how much my mother even knew about, but it was no big deal. They were middle class areas and even HITCHHIKING was OK, though I never actually did hitchhiking.

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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      we had a teacher in high school who used to drag students who misbehaved by the ears. Everyone was terrified of Mr. "F" - he would have been locked up today - but we sure knew better than to misbehave around him.
      I went to a Catholic high school so there were also a few teachers who were nuns - and their favorite punishment was using the yardstick on your knuckles - ouch!

      I started smoking in high school and it took me 40 years to quit that habit - back then smoking was cool - and I used to go to the store and buy my mom's cigarettes that cost 25 cents a pack!

      I don't remember them doing much of anything to us if we were caught smoking except being told to put it out - unless it was Mr. "F" - and then you were done for.

      the good ole days -

      I actually feel sorry for kids today - they don't get to stay "kids" for very long
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