Want muscles? Rice is the new meat

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Most people think of rice as a carbohydrate, but about eight percent of each grain is made up of protein. Axiom uses a fermentation method to extract and concentrate the protein, and the rest of the grain is used for things like rice syrup. The husks are burned to create power. "Every part of the grain of rice is used," Janow said.
Healthy protein: Rice becomes the new meat for some

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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Put a 24oz rib eye infront of me any day over a bowl of refined rice !!
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Axiom now produces Oryzatein Brown RiceProtein Powder, which it sells under its own Growing Naturals line.
      Mmm. Yum yum.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      Put a 24oz rib eye infront of me any day over a bowl of refined rice !!
      Make mine a porterhouse.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Make mine a porterhouse.

        I'll take a batch of my very own short ribs and I can smother the rice with the gravy!
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Nothing really new here except that the rice protein is being marketed more now apparently. Body builders have been using whey, soy and even hemp protein for decades. You make vanilla, chocolate and strawberry shakes with the stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Axiom now produces Oryzatein Brown RiceProtein Powder
    Oh yummy. Can't wait to have some rice powder ... smothered with bloody, rare steak.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    And hell got a bit colder.

    Rice is better than a LOT of garbage used for vegetable protein, and probably tastier. It is ALSO a good choice for good carbs.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      And hell got a bit colder.

      Rice is better than a LOT of garbage used for vegetable protein, and probably tastier. It is ALSO a good choice for good carbs.

      Steve
      Let's give it to Mikey ... or Stevie. They'll eat anything. lol

      It doesn’t have much flavor so you will need to mix it in juice or add fruit.



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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Let's give it to Mikey ... or Stevie. They'll eat anything. lol






        HEY, I said NOTHING against steak! NOTHING! I LOVE a good steak! Plain or peppered, I'm happy! I was ONLY talking about RICE!

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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          The medium-rare rib-eye is almost proof there's a god in heaven. Throw in some garlic-mashed potatoes and some grilled asparagus and yes- I'm now a believer.

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            The medium-rare rib-eye is almost proof there's a god in heaven. Throw in some garlic-mashed potatoes and some grilled asparagus and yes- I'm now a believer.

            Cheers. - Frank
            Frank! Stop it! You're scaring me!

            Those are my two favorite sides and the way I like my steak on the rare occasions that I eat it. I only eat the steaks of the beef from grazer cows we buy from a friend of ours who raises them. Not from the store, not at a restaurant.

            Have you tried the Parmesan garlic mashed potatoes? Yum!
            You like grilled asparagus? I'm so impressed!

            Hubby hates them.


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            • Profile picture of the author butters
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


              Have you tried the Parmesan garlic mashed potatoes? Yum!


              Terra
              This could be a life altering change to the way I see steak! I'd even throw a few chives on top! Having a Homer Simpson drawl moment!

              What sauce would you recommend ?
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by butters View Post

                This could be a life altering change to the way I see steak! I'd even throw a few chives on top! Having a Homer Simpson drawl moment!

                What sauce would you recommend ?
                For the steak?

                None!

                When you put a good rub on the steak and serve it blackened you don't need a sauce at all. The seasonings in the rub give it a wonderful flavor that doesn't require sauce.

                If you meant for the potatoes, I like real butter.

                Here's my recipe for the potatoes if you'd like:

                Garlic Parmesan Potatoes

                2½ lbs peeled and cubed potatoes
                ¼ cup butter
                ¼ cup milk
                ½ cup sour cream
                ¾ cup Parmesan
                1½ teaspoons garlic powder
                2 teaspoons salt
                ½ teaspoon pepper


                Boil potatoes in a large pot until fork tender. Drain.

                Place potatoes in a large mixing bowl. Add butter, milk and sour cream and beat until creamy. Add Parmesan cheese, garlic powder, salt and pepper and beat until mixed in well.



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                • Profile picture of the author butters
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  For the steak?

                  None!

                  When you put a good rub on the steak and serve it blackened you don't need a sauce at all. The seasonings in the rub give it a wonderful flavor that doesn't require sauce.

                  If you meant for the potatoes, I like real butter.

                  Here's my recipe for the potatoes if you'd like:

                  Garlic Parmesan Potatoes

                  2½ lbs peeled and cubed potatoes
                  ¼ cup butter
                  ¼ cup milk
                  ½ cup sour cream
                  ¾ cup Parmesan
                  1½ teaspoons garlic powder
                  2 teaspoons salt
                  ½ teaspoon pepper


                  Boil potatoes in a large pot until fork tender. Drain.

                  Place potatoes in a large mixing bowl. Add butter, milk and sour cream and beat until creamy. Add Parmesan cheese, garlic powder, salt and pepper and beat until mixed in well.



                  Terra
                  Had it tonight with out the sour cream !! Accompanied by 5 types of mushrooms, roasted carrots and a massive rib eye !! I feel this will make a regular appearance!
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by butters View Post

                    Had it tonight with out the sour cream !! Accompanied by 5 types of mushrooms, roasted carrots and a massive rib eye !! I feel this will make a regular appearance!
                    Awesome!

                    Yes, it is delicious both ways. A bit more caloric with the sour cream. I usually only add the sour cream to the recipe for holiday family dinners or when I have friends over for dinner. Definitely not for every day meals although my hubby would love it that way, haha!

                    I'm glad you liked it. One of these days, try it with the sour cream and let me know what you think.


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                    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      Awesome!

                      Yes, it is delicious both ways. A bit more caloric with the sour cream. I usually only add the sour cream to the recipe for holiday family dinners or when I have friends over for dinner. Definitely not for every day meals although my hubby would love it that way, haha!

                      I'm glad you liked it. One of these days, try it with the sour cream and let me know what you think.


                      Terra
                      Two low cal substitutes -- plain yogurt or some whipped cream cheese. I love yogurt on my baked potatoes.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                "A hot woman will not give you satisfaction like this"...

                THIS hot woman will fight you for that steak...and win.

                I think it's odd the same people who argue against processed foods - wanted us to eat vegan and raw and all sorts of stuff....see nothing wrong with leeching the protein out of rice and other foods. Is that not processing?

                I like rice - white rice, brown rice, even a few of the fancy name rices. Rice is what you put food ON.

                My own rice "process" would be as follows (this is what I do all the time)...

                Dinner - BIG med rare steak - potatoes and all the goodies, too Cook an extra steak (rare) while I'm at it.

                Next day - brunch - toss some of the steak in to a skillet to heat it up - pour in whisked eggs and a bit of cheese...toast a bagel.

                Next evening - RICE (thought we wouldn't get to that, didn't you?). Put a big pile of cooked rice on your plate....and cover it with teriyaki (leftover) steak stir-fry...

                I realized recently most friends I knew who tried to convert me to a "healthier lifestyle" over the years...are dead. I'm still going strong. Glad I didn't listen to them.
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                • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
                  The arsenic in plain old store-bought rice worries me. I purchased a large bag of Jasmine rice at Sam's Club, so we have quite a supply at home (big price difference from the store.) From what bit of research I've done, the Thailand Jasmine rice isn't supposed to have the problem with arsenic. It tastes pretty good and has a different odor to it. So far, have made it plain topped with butter and some gravy, loose stuffed peppers and loose pigs in a blanket. I'm looking forward to some homemade from scratch chicken rice soup.

                  As for steaks? We don't do those often, but I doubt I'm serving rice with it.

                  Terra, can you use fresh garlic instead of powdered? Just run it through a press instead so it distributes well? Nobody here likes the powdered so we don't buy it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

                    The arsenic in plain old store-bought rice worries me. I purchased a large bag of Jasmine rice at Sam's Club, so we have quite a supply at home (big price difference from the store.) From what bit of research I've done, the Thailand Jasmine rice isn't supposed to have the problem with arsenic. It tastes pretty good and has a different odor to it. So far, have made it plain topped with butter and some gravy, loose stuffed peppers and loose pigs in a blanket. I'm looking forward to some homemade from scratch chicken rice soup.

                    As for steaks? We don't do those often, but I doubt I'm serving rice with it.

                    Terra, can you use fresh garlic instead of powdered? Just run it through a press instead so it distributes well? Nobody here likes the powdered so we don't buy it.
                    Yes, I posted the easy version for Lee.

                    I also use fresh grated Parmesan too, not the shaker stuff.

                    Terra
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Frank! Stop it! You're scaring me!
              I get that a lot from women. Generally I just put my pants back on.
              Those are my two favorite sides and the way I like my steak on the rare occasions that I eat it. I only eat the steaks of the beef from grazer cows we buy from a friend of ours who raises them. Not from the store, not at a restaurant.
              I prefer road kill. Pre-tenderized.
              Have you tried the Parmesan garlic mashed potatoes? Yum!
              Overkill. I don't like anything to compete with my garlic.
              You like grilled asparagus? I'm so impressed! Hubby hates them. Terra


              Cheers. - Frank
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                I get that a lot from women. Generally I just put my pants back on.
                I prefer road kill. Pre-tenderized.
                Overkill. I don't like anything to compete with my garlic.


                Cheers. - Frank

                Only one thing made my mouth water from your post.

                No, it wasn't the first thing you posted, it was the last.

                That asparagus looks delicious!

                Terra
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                • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Only one thing made my mouth water from your post. No, it wasn't the first thing you posted, it was the last.
                  That's the funniest thing I've ever heard you say. I deliberated posting it as I'm well aware how prissy you can be. Well played. :-)
                  That asparagus looks delicious! Terra
                  You know it was. :-)

                  Cheers. - Frank
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                    That's the funniest thing I've ever heard you say. I deliberated posting it as I'm well aware how prissy you can be. Well played. :-)
                    You know it was. :-)

                    Cheers. - Frank
                    Hey!
                    The didn't call me Lil Miss Priss when I was a little girl for nothing, ya know.

                    I've got some feist in me and actually, I'm surprised this is the first time you've seen it.


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                    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      Hey! I've got some feist in me and actually, I'm surprised this is the first time you've seen it. Terra
                      Oh, I've seen that, but not so much a tolerance for what most would consider harmless sexual innuendo. :-)

                      Cheers. - Frank
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                      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                        Oh, well then, I see you missed this interaction then...


                        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                        Ah, I see.

                        Well that explains everything, then.

                        I don't like anything that's shriveled.


                        Terra
                        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                        For the last time, the water was cold.
                        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                        For the last time, there was no water!


                        Terra

                        and this one...


                        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                        Yes, biz, that's an excellent tenet to follow. However, it doesn't fall under the codex of the birds and the bees. If it does, you're doing it wrong. Very, very wrong. I'm talking Claude-level wrong.
                        Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                        Thank you. I aspire to Claude level.

                        Ooooops, I mean, that's just mean.
                        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                        Biz, I'm glad you changed your post, I mean really? Claude level in being taught about the birds and bees?

                        You do know that that type of activity was outlawed way back during the logging industry, right? You also know how logging went out of business, bottom up, belly up and completely washed up, don't you? If not, it's okay. Here in Michigan, it is so embarrassing, we keep the story underground and you won't find it written anywhere. Not even at Lumberman's Monument.

                        You see, Claude was self taught in the area of the birds and the bees by bird watching in the upper portion of the lower peninsula of Michigan. He then attempted to imitate them. I must add right here that I guess you have to give him kudos for his sticking to trying to learn, however.

                        Anyway, Claude climbed to the tops of the trees, watched for a bird to soar by and then leaped into the air trying to fly around in circles with it, all twitterpated and eager to learn that certain activity. However, gravity had been at work since the beginning of time and pulled him down.

                        Because he wasn't the leanest and lightest of men, his weight not only broke those trees, but splintered the wood into pieces approximately the size of toothpicks. I mean there were piles and piles of them! Claude wasn't discouraged though, he kept on climbing, leaping and trying to fly and play until eventually there was almost no forest left. He destroyed the forests full of trees causing the logging industry to come to a complete halt and forced it into bankruptcy. He was thereby banished from Michigan forever. That's why he lives in close-by, Ohio.

                        No, nope, I didn't forget the bees part. He wanted to learn about that certain activity the same way, except he was bee watching this time. The problem was that he could only find a single bee flying around. They weren't in pairs like the birds were. Claude being a clever guy, deduced that he must go to their homes and followed a honey bee home to it's hive. He yearned to see those bees partaking in that activity. Well, you know bees, they don't let anyone near their hives, so they attacked and aimed for his forehead.

                        They hit the spot with their angry stingers and as Claude fell, they gathered up some of their extra bees wax, carried it up towards the sun until it was hot and melting, then they dropped that hot ball of wax, again, right on Claude's forehead. When he tried to get it off, it had cooled a bit and caused him to permanently rip out the hair from the front of his head! And to this very day, Claude still has that balding swollen forehead!


                        Hahahahahaaaaahahaaahaaaa!


                        Oh, sorry...


                        Terra
                        LOL!

                        That's just a couple off of the top of my head.


                        Terra
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            The medium-rare rib-eye is almost proof there's a god in heaven. Throw in some garlic-mashed potatoes and some grilled asparagus and yes- I'm now a believer.

            Cheers. - Frank
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          HEY, I said NOTHING against steak! NOTHING! I LOVE a good steak! Plain or peppered, I'm happy! I was ONLY talking about RICE!

          Steve
          ... but we're not talking about rice. We're talking about a protein powdered rice substance as pictured above the steak. No thanks ... I like my rice complete and unpowdered.
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      • Profile picture of the author Philip1008
        the steak seems so appetizing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      And hell got a bit colder.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    One problem with rice is arsenic. You're not supposed to eat it every day, and most people don't cook it right to expel the arsenic.

    Steak. Factory farms. Right now if everyone cut down eating meat to every other day instead of every day, it would be a lot easier driving factory farms into the dirt. Alternating other proteins for meat every other day is a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author TonySharma1
    Damn all this talk about steak is making me hungry :p.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    What's the arsenic connection? I ask because I am in a place where rice is the staple food and is eaten by many for all 3 meals. I'll look it up but just wondering because that's the first I heard of it.

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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      What's the arsenic connection? I ask because I am in a place where rice is the staple food and is eaten by many for all 3 meals. I'll look it up but just wondering because that's the first I heard of it.

      Mark
      It's about the same as that grain staple in Haiti (miso or some such). A lot of people boil rice in just enough water that all the water absorbs. That traps the arsenic. What you have to do is boil it in about 3 times the water you need, and when it's done you drain the excess water and it gets rid of a lot of the arsenic. This is the same way the Haitians get rid of the arsenic in their grain staple. I think it's just something about the soil in areas where rice grows. It's organic arsenic as far as I can tell from the amount of research I did - but it's still bad for you in high enough concentrations and is bio-accumulative. Brown rice is just as bad as white for it - but since cooking in excess water then draining instead of letting exact amounts absorb gets rid of most of it, I'd say it's a pretty easy fix for someone wanting rice for dinner.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        It's about the same as that grain staple in Haiti (miso or some such). A lot of people boil rice in just enough water that all the water absorbs. That traps the arsenic. What you have to do is boil it in about 3 times the water you need, and when it's done you drain the excess water and it gets rid of a lot of the arsenic. This is the same way the Haitians get rid of the arsenic in their grain staple. I think it's just something about the soil in areas where rice grows. It's organic arsenic as far as I can tell from the amount of research I did - but it's still bad for you in high enough concentrations and is bio-accumulative. Brown rice is just as bad as white for it - but since cooking in excess water then draining instead of letting exact amounts absorb gets rid of most of it, I'd say it's a pretty easy fix for someone wanting rice for dinner.
        I looked this up and there's a fair bit online about it. What I don't get is most countries that use rice as a staple, although they often wash the rice to get rid of starch, they then cook it in similar amounts of water to rice.

        I was just keen to understand why those countries don't tend to drop like flies from over consumption of arsenic. Do you think it's the washing process?
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          I looked this up and there's a fair bit online about it. What I don't get is most countries that use rice as a staple, although they often wash the rice to get rid of starch, they then cook it in similar amounts of water to rice.

          I was just keen to understand why those countries don't tend to drop like flies from over consumption of arsenic. Do you think it's the washing process?
          It's the boiling process - but the water needs to be drained. I'm not sure what the symptoms of arsenic poisoning are so not sure how to tell if those people are being poisoned - not sure if it's a new problem or what. Like I said - I didn't look into it that far. I don't eat rice often and I've always cooked it in too much water and dumped the water so wasn't all that worried about it.

          Too busy to look it up right now but if you get a bug to do so - find out the symptoms and see what kind of illnesses people that eat a lot of rice without draining usually suffer or kick from.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            This is what I reading when I saw it mentioned.

            How Much Arsenic Is in Your Rice - Consumer Reports

            This shows what the FDA found which supports your brown rice comment, what is interesting is the second highest levels were found in pasta which is again eaten in monstrous quantities.

            Arsenic in Rice and Rice Products

            As for if it's dangerous the jury seems to be out, it may be linked to certain things and it may not, they simply don't seem to know but it's present in fruit, vegetable and grains according to this site.

            Arsenic - is your rice poisoning you?. Health Blog at Patient.co.uk | Patient.co.uk

            Personally I don't think I eat enough. Steak on the other hand....
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            It's the boiling process - but the water needs to be drained. I'm not sure what the symptoms of arsenic poisoning are so not sure how to tell if those people are being poisoned - not sure if it's a new problem or what. Like I said - I didn't look into it that far. I don't eat rice often and I've always cooked it in too much water and dumped the water so wasn't all that worried about it.

            Too busy to look it up right now but if you get a bug to do so - find out the symptoms and see what kind of illnesses people that eat a lot of rice without draining usually suffer or kick from.
            Arsenic isn't really expelled from the body, so the most foreboding symptom of all is that it accumulates! Apparently even most people that are poisoned intentionally by arsenic don't die of the poisoning, but the ACCUMULATION.

            About the only way to reliably be tested for arsenic poisoning, BESIDES the symptoms that can come YEARS later, is a hair test, as it accumulates THERE as well. They can determine about how long you have been exposed, when, and to what degree.

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            • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
              rice is ok - but I'd rather have potatoes, pasta, or better yet, sweet potatoes -

              last night I created a wonderfully heart-healthy side dish to go along with my chicken -
              many of us are missing an important mineral in our diets which can really make a difference to our heart health and that is magnesium -
              you can get a huge amount of magnesium from cooked spinach - but let's face it - boiled spinach is "meh"

              so last night I tried this:

              2 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil (cold-pressed)
              2 cloves of garlic - minced
              1 green onion minced
              3 cups of baby spinach leaves (preferably organic) - rinsed and drained - pat dry ( that's enough for one person when cooked - so adjust accordingly )

              method - in a large skillet heat olive oil on medium heat - (don't let it smoke!) and add minced garlic and green onion - sautee for 2 minutes - don't let the garlic go brown.
              Add the spinach and sautée for 2 minutes

              optional - sprinkle parmesan cheese on the spinach - yummy!
              serve hot with your fave meat - omg! heavenly and so so good for you.

              enjoy!
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Arsenic isn't really expelled from the body, so the most foreboding symptom of all is that it accumulates! Apparently even most people that are poisoned intentionally by arsenic don't die of the poisoning, but the ACCUMULATION.

              About the only way to reliably be tested for arsenic poisoning, BESIDES the symptoms that can come YEARS later, is a hair test, as it accumulates THERE as well. They can determine about how long you have been exposed, when, and to what degree.

              Steve
              From Wikipedia, and I've seen it elsewhere:

              "Organic arsenic compounds tend to be eliminated in the urine in unchanged form, while inorganic forms are largely converted to organic arsenic compounds in the body prior to urinary excretion....

              Tests are available to diagnose poisoning by measuring arsenic in blood, urine, hair, and fingernails. The urine test is the most reliable test for arsenic exposure within the last few days. Urine testing needs to be done within 24-48 hours for an accurate analysis of an acute exposure. Tests on hair and fingernails can measure exposure to high levels of arsenic over the past 6-12 months."
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  • Profile picture of the author verial
    I live in Japan, where they eat rice for every meal (even breakfast!), but I've never seen even a hint of muscle on anyone here - even the dudes in the gym.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheWriteOne
      Originally Posted by verial View Post

      I live in Japan, where they eat rice for every meal (even breakfast!), but I've never seen even a hint of muscle on anyone here - even the dudes in the gym.
      Most Asian Countries staple is rice. And yeah, there isn't a lot of Asians that have muscles. Aside from the animes or mangas.

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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        I don't mind rice - but I only eat it when I have left over meat and make a stir-fry
        or if (very rarely)- I make a curry - which I love!
        or when I stuff green peppers - another fave dish!
        and I tend to buy brown rice or wild rice - yum
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Rice absorbs arsenic from soil or water much more effectively than most plants. That’s in part because it is one of the only major crops grown in water-flooded conditions, which allow arsenic to be more easily taken up by its roots and stored in the grains. In the U.S. as of 2010, about 15 percent of rice acreage was in California, 49 percent in Arkansas, and the remainder in Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, and Texas. That south-central region of the country has a long history of producing cotton, a crop that was heavily treated with arsenical pesticides for decades in part to combat the boll weevil beetle.

    Personally, I don't eat brown rice. Don't like it. White rice has less arsenic.

    1. Pay Attention To Where It’s Grown

    “Rice grown in the Southeastern U.S. had the highest amount of arsenic, according to Consumer Reports, which makes sense given that this is the land where cotton was grown and arsenic was used as a pesticide for decades to combat the boll weevil.

    Rice is grown in water, so the presence of arsenic in the soil can be readily transmitted. Even though they’ve done away with arsenic-containing pesticides in the U.S., the arsenic remains in the soil [and other arsenic-containing ingredients in animal feed to prevent disease and promote growth are still permitted]. Once in the soil, the arsenic can come into the roots and into the grain of the rice itself.

    Rice grown in California wouldn’t have the same problems — California-grown rice has much lower levels of arsenic, the studies found. And here’s one instance in which buying imports is better: Thai jasmine and Indian basmati had some — but much lower — levels of arsenic (about one-half to one-third the amount).”

    2. Swap In White Rice

    (This pains me to write, but my kids will be happy.)

    “Brown rice had much higher arsenic levels so the recommendation is to use brown rice sparingly and eat more white rice.”

    [The reason, says Consumer Reports is this: “Though brown rice has nutritional advantages over white rice, it is not surprising that it might have higher levels of arsenic, which concentrates in the outer layers of a grain. The process of polishing rice to produce white rice removes those surface layers, slightly reducing the total arsenic and inorganic arsenic in the grain.

    In brown rice, only the hull is removed. Arsenic concentrations found in the bran that is removed during the milling process to produce white rice can be 10 to 20 times higher than levels found in bulk rice grain.”]

    3. Cook With More Water
    [For brown or white rice]”…there are ways to reduce the arsenic levels. Consumers can wash the rice before they cook it and cook in extra water and then pour water off at the end of cooking. (This can remove about 30 percent of the arsenic). Consumer Reports recommends 6 cups of water to one cup of rice.”
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Personally, I don't eat brown rice. Don't like it. White rice has less arsenic.
      I must admit when I saw that it was fantastic, I can't stand brown rice and I'm always told I eat the unhealthy stuff.

      What I did find interesting was brown rice being the highest with 7.2 but closely behind was pasta with 6.6.

      Like a lot of Italians, I too rather like my pasta.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        I must admit when I saw that it was fantastic, I can't stand brown rice and I'm always told I eat the unhealthy stuff.

        What I did find interesting was brown rice being the highest with 7.2 but closely behind was pasta with 6.6.

        Like a lot of Italians, I too rather like my pasta.
        I love pasta and white rice. I will be looking at the labels to see where it comes from and avoid those cotton growing states mentioned in the article. As for pasta, it is boiled with so much water and that water is not absorbed during cooking, that you probably lose around 40% of the arsenic from cooking it.

        Here's some more on white rice vs brown rice and where to buy rice (California)

        White rice can be a "safe" starch

        I don't think it's necessary to completely eliminate rice from the diet. The EPA's 5 ppb per day limit on arsenic is probably what we should shoot for in our diets, in light of current evidence. Many of the white rice products tested had fairly low levels of arsenic, and in the context of a few servings a week for an adult, it's probably not an issue. As for very young children and infants, I don't recommend serving them rice products in general, so they shouldn't be exposed to arsenic from rice anyway. Pregnant women may want to be cautious about their rice intake, and minimize their exposure to arsenic to protect their developing fetus; finding another safe starch to replace rice during pregnancy would be wise.

        So if you choose to purchase white rice, buy a brand made in California like Lundberg; their California White Basmati Rice has only 1.3 to 1.6 ppb arsenic per serving (1/4 cup uncooked), well below the safe limit. In addition, rinsing the rice before cooking and boiling it in a high water-to-rice ratio can help reduce the arsenic content significantly. (7) So if you want to keep white rice as a part of your diet, I recommend looking for a safe brand like Lundberg and rinsing the rice thoroughly before cooking in a large quantity of water; this should be adequate to make rice a safe food to eat in moderation.
        Brown rice: Not a health food!

        Brown rice, on the other hand, has significantly more arsenic than white rice and should be avoided or consumed rarely. Some of the brown rice brands tested contained at least 50% more than the safe limit per serving, and a few even had nearly double the safe limit. (PDF with complete details of test results) Note that some of the worst offenders for arsenic are made from brown rice: processed rice products like brown rice syrup, brown rice pasta, rice cakes and brown rice crisps. These processed products are commonly consumed by those following a "healthy" whole grain rich or gluten-free diet, but they clearly pose a significant risk of arsenic overexposure, especially if a person eats more than one serving per day. Obviously, brown rice is not a food that should be a dietary staple, or even eaten on a regular basis.

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        Aside from having a higher arsenic content, there are other reasons to avoid brown rice: it's harder to digest and nutrient absorption is likely inferior to white rice because of phytates in the rice bran. (8) Despite a higher nutrient content of brown rice compared to white rice, the anti-nutrients present in brown rice reduce the bioavailability of any vitamins and minerals present. (9) Plus, brown rice also reduces dietary protein and fat digestibility compared to white rice. (10) In short, brown rice is not a health food for a variety of reasons, and a higher arsenic content is simply another reason to avoid eating it.

        No food is completely safe or without some level of contamination risk: vegetables make up 24 percent of our arsenic exposure and tap water can legally contain 10 ppb arsenic per liter (some systems even exceed the legal limit.) (11) So while rice may contribute an unsafe level of arsenic, it's certainly not the only source in our diet, and we need to be cautious about demonizing an entire class of food based on a soundbite from a news story. While I don't think rice is a necessary component of a healthy diet, I do think it can be incorporated safely as a source of starch: just be sure to pay attention to the brand you're buying, as well as your method of preparation.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Wow - thanks for chipping in on the research everyone! I find the results you folks came up with really interesting. It's also kinda disturbing. I love my pasta. I'll eat spaghetti with butter garlic and parmesan about like some people eat popcorn. Then there's the eggplant parmesan on a bed of pasta, and cajun shrimp linguini, and lasagna, and manicotti, and seafood linguini - and the list goes on. Of course, I boil it and drain the water, but.........

    Guess it's a good thing that I eat a lot of herbals to expel metals out of my body.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    I'm not a fan of regular brown rice, however, brown basmati rice, I find delicious. =)

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Mustard has nutrients in it that builds muscle mass. I'm surprised more body builders don't eat mustard potato salad and Reubins with mustard on them for muscle building. That'd be my fav if I was out to bulk up. And the sour kraut is probiotic, too. What the heck more could you ask for than that combo?
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  • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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    Hugh Jackman for his Wolverine role ate 12 chicken breasts everyday with brown rice and broccoli. See how impressive he looks in the last X-men movie.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

      Hugh Jackman for his Wolverine role ate 12 chicken breasts everyday with brown rice and broccoli. See how impressive he looks in the last X-men movie.
      You should have seen how impressive my sweetie looked just before he dropped dead. Sometimes looks don't tell the whole story.
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        You should have seen how impressive my sweetie looked just before he dropped dead. Sometimes looks don't tell the whole story.
        your sweetie???
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Sometimes looks don't tell the whole story.

        I see you have mastered the power of the understatement.


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