What's wrong with People

Banned 9 years ago

What's wrong with you that you are so fixated on what you see as the failings of the human race based on these endless videos?

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KingServers01

9 years ago

Humans have lost faith in themselves that is why they prefer taking care of animals instead, nothing wrong with people but society.

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HeySal

9 years ago

Animals are innocent, they have to depend on humans, and judging from the amount who purposely abuse them, they need our help desperately, and many are situated to be able to adopt a dog and take care of them. It's not so easy to completely change a human life, or to accommodate their living quarters, etc and so forth. Many people who will take a dog home also do make donations to charities for humans.

Compassion for the little furry ones who are subject to humans and their whims is not a human failing just because some people are having problems, too.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Animals are innocent, they have to depend on humans, and judging from the amount who purposely abuse them, they need our help desperately, and many are situated to be able to adopt a dog and take care of them. It's not so easy to completely change a human life, or to accommodate their living quarters, etc and so forth. Many people who will take a dog home also do make donations to charities for humans.

Compassion for the little furry ones who are subject to humans and their whims is not a human failing just because some people are having problems, too.

I guess it is about priorities, at least for me. I love dogs. I have had one my whole Life. But I think some people don't like other people ( not saying you) because they don't like themselves. All the crap they see in themselves they hate seeing it in other people.

Thus, you have a bunch of people who are cynical and resort to trying to humanize animals.

Animals are animals.

I would rather concentrate on my time attending and help young INNOCENT , yes INNOCENT children who are abused and murdered everyday in this World. Once again these are INNOCENT children.

Maybe people don't care much for helping them out because they remind them too much of the adults who have f up the World or they figure they do not want to get involved because of the adults etc..etc..

That is not a good excuse. Sorry

Like I said it is about priorities.

If I have a certain amount of time in the day and I have to choose in helping between a 2 year old who is getting raped by his father everyday or a poor puppy getting burned everyday with gasoline, I will take the 2 year old baby without even blinking. Without even thinking

Anybody who thinks otherwise (that the latter is more of a priority ) can rot in hell and do not let the door hit you on the way out

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Maybe people don't care much for helping them out because they remind them too much of the adults who have f up the World or they figure they do not want to get involved because of the adults etc..etc..

That is not a good excuse. Sorry

Like I said it is about priorities.

If I have a certain amount of time in the day and I have to choose in helping between a 2 year old who is getting raped by his father everyday or a poor puppy getting burned everyday with gasoline, I will take the 2 year old baby without even blinking. Without even thinking

Anybody who thinks otherwise (that the latter is more of a priority ) can rot in hell and do not let the door hit you on the way out

Just my two cents

So, tell us what you do to save abused children every day. I mean, I agree, with the caveat that I don't feel the need to choose. I would help a human in need or an animal. But I'm interested in what you do, since you've made a choice.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I wish they would have shown her face. She looked hot!
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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

But I'm interested in what you do, since you've made a choice.

I believe the word you are looking for is 'pontificate.' :-)

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

So, tell us what you do to save abused children every day. I mean, I agree, with the caveat that I don't feel the need to choose. I would help a human in need or an animal. But I'm interested in what you do, since you've made a choice.

Suzy you are right. Maybe someday when I am an empty nester I will have the opportunity. I definitely have volunteered but as far as targeting local abused children I have not,

I guess I was just wanting to get a point across ( and Franks right I guess, pontificate) because it is just personal with me.

For the last 30 years , my oldest brother has been married to a woman who has not always been very nice to humans at all. Just very cynical and has on numerous occasions said how much she hates human beings. Just in a real ugly way

But when it comes to pets ...oh my God this woman will murder for one if need be. Seriously

I remember when we were vacationing in hilton head she was biking on the trail. She came in my parents Condo crying away.

We never had seen her so emotional up to this time.Not even when her own Mom died/ She was this way ALL day. And it was the result of a little squirrel who had been hit by a car and she came upon it in its last moments of Life.

It bothered her for days and we all thought to ourselves if she showed a tenth of that compassion towards others around her it would be really amazing.

So I guess I am guilty of being influenced by this and it is a touchy subject for me.

As far as my views on animals ? I cried and cried so many times watching old yeller. I would not hesitate to physically confront anyone in Public who is abusing a helpless animal in my presence. No question.

I just think the scales have tipped in some cases and we sometimes need to keep things in perspective

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

As far as my views on animals ? I cried and cried so many times watching old yeller. I would not hesitate to physically confront anyone in Public who is abusing a helpless animal in my presence. No question.

I just think the scales have tipped in some cases and we sometimes need to keep things in perspective

I agree. I don't hold animals in higher esteem than humans in need. I will do what I can for either. There's the old question that PeTA has the answer to ... if a dog and boy were drowning, which would you save if you could only save one.

PeTA's answer ... a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy.

My answer: I would save the child and deeply regret that I could not save both.

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

My answer: I would save the child and deeply regret that I could not save both.

That IS the correct answer and that's coming from a dog lover and from someone that can't stand children.

That said, if it were my dog and someone else's kid, it might be a different story. :-)

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- Kay King 9 years ago
  
  I guess I was just wanting to get a point across ( and Franks right I guess, pontificate) because it is just personal with me.
  
  Nothing wrong with it being "personal" - but it's personal to YOU. I get to have my own "personal"
  
  We are arguing about hypothetical responses to an imaginary situation - in a discussion brought on by someone who consistently posts faked videos trying to make his point (whatever it is).
  
  We're all crazy.
  
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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

... if a dog and boy were drowning, which would you save if you could only save one.

A much more interesting moral question is this:

If you saw Claude and Professor Carpet drowning, and you could only save one of them.......

.... which pub would you go to?

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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

A much more interesting moral question is this:

If you saw Claude and Professor Carpet drowning, and you could only save one of them.......

.... which pub would you go to?

Well, Claude is more buoyant, and WC is all muscle, so the answer is clear!

Walk, away in despair and find a 24 hour pub!

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

A much more interesting moral question is this:

If you saw Claude and Professor Carpet drowning, and you could only save one of them.......

Who would you hand a glass of water?

There you go. Drinking water is good for you.

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daweller

9 years ago

I don't mind giving money to those in need.
I live in an area where it's hard to go anywhere without someone panhandling.
Thing is, you get so many a-holes who are aggressive and rude about it. And so many doing it to collect money for drugs.
Sometimes, you really don't have any cash or change, and you turn someone down, and they get uppity with you... or they don't believe you.
After a while, you just avoid them, or say no all the time.
I started volunteering at a shelter that serves free meals to those in need, so maybe that will keep the guilty feelings at bay.

As Haysal said, animals can't really go around asking for money. They also don't choose to shoot heroin into their veins... and they aren't always able to run away when being abused.
Also when a dog is begging for food, you can be pretty sure that it wants food and not drugs.
Also, Im not sure where that video was made... but if it's a major city, I bet there's a food bank or shelter near by... or some church that gives out food.

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tagiscom 9 years ago

Well, if l walked past a homeless kid with a film crew on one side filming him, l would walk past as well?

Makes it less innocent and more staged, especially if it is a doc, on people not giving enough to the homeless?

Get rid of the cameras, and you would get a better result!
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Outsourcingbee

9 years ago

To understand the people is something hard and impossible.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

These little video social experiments are really tiresome and your use of YOU can help and dog but not a human is also tiresome.

I can help a dog. I can bring one home from the shelter and it can sleep at the foot of my bed. I can't bring a human home and let him/her sleep at the foot of my bed, but I help humans and animals to the best of my ability.

So tell me what you do to help either humans or animals.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Unfortunately, this wasn't a social "experiment". Experiments don't have the "testers" throwing dollars back at the "testee" in disgust. And would she have been a better person if she didn't help either, instead of helping the dog only, as implied by the "tester"?

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tagiscom 9 years ago

Well, in Melbourne, a homeless kid with a dog was near a train station. And a few well off white collar workers went, past.

They decided who's turn it was and one went back, probably donated $100?

So, good to see, but his circumstances are a mystery.

Sometimes you just have to take a chance and give.

Although as l have learned, there is some s*** out there, that deserves a jail term, but this is a small donation, so isn't the end of the earth!
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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Unfortunately, this wasn't a social "experiment". Experiments don't have the "testers" throwing dollars back at the "testee" in disgust. And would she have been a better person if she didn't help either, instead of helping the dog only, as implied by the "tester"?

And testing one person isn't s Social Experiment. The filmers are making a point, and have an agenda.

Different person, different approach, different appeal. One person tested isn't really informative, except that the tester was pretty aggressive.

But when I was in San Francisco, panhandlers with dogs got more money.

I gave a guy (begging, with a dog) $10 and asked him a few questions;

How much does the dog help? (3 times as much per day)
How much do you get per hour? ($20-30. But only for a few hours a day)
Do you get more from men or women? (With a dog? Women, by far)
What is the average amount you get from each person? ($5 is common)

He said that you get more money, begging near expensive restaurants, as people come out. I wonder if it's because they have had a few drinks, they have more loose dollar bills, or they feel guilt, because they just had a good meal?

I think I tried to ask a few more questions, but he was getting irritated.

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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

And testing one person isn't s Social Experiment. The filmers are making a point, and have an agenda.

Different person, different approach, different appeal. One person tested isn't really informative, except that the tester was pretty aggressive.

But when I was in San Francisco, panhandlers with dogs got more money.

I gave a guy (begging, with a dog) $10 and asked him a few questions;

How much does the dog help? (3 times as much per day)
How much do you get per hour? ($20-30. But only for a few hours a day)
Do you get more from men or women? (With a dog? Women, by far)
What is the average amount you get from each person? ($5 is common)

He said that you get more money, begging near expensive restaurants, as people come out. I wonder if it's because they have had a few drinks, they have more loose dollar bills, or they feel guilt, because they just had a good meal?

I think I tried to ask a few more questions, but he was getting irritated.

Yes, the one l saw, was patting his dog, and was near a wealthy Melbourne street, and office blocks, and a train station.

It was certainly working for him!

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Kay King

9 years ago

what's wrong with society

What's wrong with YOU that you keep bringing these fake experiment videos here and accusing others of not doing what they "should" for people?

These "experiments" are not experiments - they are a joke with everyone in them playing their part to "prove the point" - and the "point" is the outcome as it was arranged to begin with...i.e., "the agenda".

Not interested - and looks like I'm not the only one.

I'll save an animal first every time - they can't control what is done to them.

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Karen Blundell

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I'll save an animal first every time - they can't control what is done to them.

wow!
in a burning building - if I had a choice between saving a human or an animal?
I would try to save both - but if I couldn't I would save a human - every single time

I happen to value human life - and if that makes me stupid and not part of the "in" crowd here - so be it.

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Kay King

9 years ago

Don't take it too literally....I'm responding to the OP who continues to post these judgmental 'social experiments' that mean nothing to anyone.

The video is a fake - so I respond in the same way.

If I am sitting somewhere minding my own business it's MY choice to give or not give to anyone and I have no need to feel guilty about my choices.

The "guilting of society" is something I despise and it's rather common in these threads.

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Karen Blundell

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Don't take it too literally....I'm responding to the OP who continues to post these judgmental 'social experiments' that mean nothing to anyone.

The video is a fake - so I respond in the same way.

If I am sitting somewhere minding my own business it's MY choice to give or not give to anyone and I have no need to feel guilty about my choices.

The "guilting of society" is something I despise and it's rather common in these threads.

ah - I see - sorry - don't you just love social media?
I really think it's destructive and it is why years ago, I closed my Facebook account despite the fact I could use it as a marketing tool - and I barely use my Twitter account anymore, either.
I use YouTube daily for music - but the comments section? Oh my, for the most part I try to ignore it - because it's terrible how nasty people are to each other - over music, for goodness sake!

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Let's not forget the first lot of videos the OP posted here weren't "social experiments" they were other people's videos that he "stole" and tried to promote sites of his that featured photos of "sexy girls" that were stolen from sites such as Playboy, FHM and others.

In his defense he claimed that since other people were doing it, there was nothing wrong with him doing it as well.

All the threads he tried this in have obviously long since been been deleted, however some of us have long memories.

Then again perhaps this is another social experiment. Maybe he's testing our patience to see how long we can put up with him until we add him to our "ignore lists".

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ezeudusamson

9 years ago

Dog is man's best friend. But human beings go behind the backs.

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Kay King 9 years ago

Looking critically at the video - do you BELIEVE a young woman chose to sit on a CONCRETE bench in what is obviously below freezing temps (snow) - to read or whatever she is doing.

Have you ever SAT on a freezing temp concrete bench with only a pair of jeans to protect your backside??? You think SHE isn't an actor? Wake up!
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Claude Whitacre 9 years ago

Originally Posted by ezeudusamson

Dog is man's best friend. But human beings go behind the backs.

Human beings don't go behind your back. They go behind your front. If they went "behind your back", they would be in front of you.

Humans.
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- Dennis Gaskill 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
  
  Human beings don't go behind your back. They go behind your front. If they went "behind your back", they would be in front of you.
  
  Humans.
  
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Kay King 9 years ago

don't you just love social media

No, I highly dislike it - have never used my Facebook acct - have never once tweeted nor do I intend to.

I've always jokingly said "I'm a loner" but the rise of social media has proven to me that's true...I have no desire to be in the "social media" group.

There are very few of us holdouts, I think
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  I keep going to the cat shelter to look at cats I might adopt - but there's a part of me that is resisting because I like traveling so much and don't feel it's right to adopt an animal if you plan on not spending much time with it.
  
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  If you travel - a cat is the perfect pet. They can get by fine on their own at home (with sufficient food/water left for them) while you are gone and still be happy when you get home. For a cat, being alone at times in a comfortable home with food and water is preferable to a cage in a shelter
  
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positivenegative

9 years ago

Originally Posted by MightyWarrior

yup... posted in the right place far as I can tell without watching the video and just reading the responses... I'm not going to waste my time, other than this quick reply. I don't spend much time in the Off Topic Forum when there is so much to be done elsewhere. Besides, this may be your society, but it doesn't even come close to describing the society I live in.

And, P.S., don't come to my society with that attitude -- you're not allowed in -- until you drop that attitude... people like you mess up a good society. Stay away! When you start seeing the good in everything and everybody, then come to the door and we can then begin to talk.

Wow. Surprised no-one has responded earlier to this post. It's got the lot . . . arrogance, ignorance, and stupidity. All in one.

So this guy, girl, hermaphrodite . . whatever . . thinks folk in the OTF have an attitude -and, we're not welcome in (this thing's) society.

Mighty Warrior, hey. Mighty mouth more like!

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- Midnight Oil 9 years ago
  
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TeKn1qu3z

9 years ago

In these days Dogs are better than human, because when a stranger tries to hit us dog can attack but a human they themselves tries to escape.
A human can say bad words on us, but a dog never even though we unlike also it comes back.

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YouTubePR

9 years ago

First of all people are different, and secondly dogs less dangerous than people.

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