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by Shounak Gupte
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Hi everyone,

You must have all worked for someone or have run your successful businesses.

Is it a good idea to ask your employees to come up with a Job Title, Job Description, Job Objectives, KPI's etc for themselves(basically whatever they want, they get) or does it show that the management don't have a clear vision?

Can this approach be successful?
  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    I think negotiating with them for all these things to get a mutually beneficial outcome is a good idea, but letting them do it themselves is fraught with danger.
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    • Profile picture of the author Insano
      The more freedom you give to your staff, the more volatile is the return you can expect. Some people (creative staff) thrives in freedom, most need clear structures though. And it is not a good sign to give the people the hint that the management lacks clear vision.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      I think negotiating with them for all these things to get a mutually beneficial outcome is a good idea, but letting them do it themselves is fraught with danger.
      Not much to add after this is said.
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      • Profile picture of the author capriliz
        If you provide a bit more information regarding the situation, you will probably get more relevant responses.

        Is the employee
        brand new - off the street?
        a trusted, long-time employee?
        more of a partner?

        Is your business new? Or, are you re-structuring?

        Does the job description impact others in the organization?

        Even so, there are not too many organizations in which an employee can arbitrarily, or independently write/create their own job descriptions without feedback or input of some kind.

        I agree with:

        Originally Posted by whateverpedia
        I think negotiating with them for all these things to get a mutually beneficial outcome is a good idea, but letting them do it themselves is fraught with danger.
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        • Profile picture of the author Shounak Gupte
          Originally Posted by capriliz View Post

          If you provide a bit more information regarding the situation, you will probably get more relevant responses.

          Is the employee
          brand new - off the street?
          a trusted, long-time employee?
          more of a partner?

          Is your business new? Or, are you re-structuring?

          Does the job description impact others in the organization?

          Even so, there are not too many organizations in which an employee can arbitrarily, or independently write/create their own job descriptions without feedback or input of some kind.

          I agree with:
          answers to your questions.

          Is the employee
          brand new - off the street? - the employee has been with the company for 2.5 years.
          a trusted, long-time employee? - trusted, definitely yes.
          more of a partner? - no

          Is your business new? Or, are you re-structuring? - the business is a startup. been around for 4-5 years. no, they are not re-structuring.

          Does the job description impact others in the organization? - its more of a senior position. so yes, it will affect everyone in the organization.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Shounak Gupte View Post

    Hi everyone,

    You must have all worked for someone or have run your successful businesses.

    Is it a good idea to ask your employees to come up with a Job Title, Job Description, Job Objectives, KPI's etc for themselves(basically whatever they want, they get) or does it show that the management don't have a clear vision?

    Can this approach be successful?
    This is a WEIRD question, so one must wonder at the intent! Job title? That SHOULD depend on what they do, and be agreed on. I have heard some WEIRD titles! The DESCRIPTION, JOB OBJECTIVES, and KPIs should depend on their purpose, which HOPEFULLY relates to their skillset. This shows the company that the owner has no view, and the owner that the manager has no view. The OWNER should at least have a REALISTIC VISION of what the company is to do. MANAGERS should then be hired that understand what must be done. THEY should hire for the ROLE. The ROLE dictates the PURPOSE, and THAT is what should hint at the KPIs, objectives, and description. THEN, the employee can go from THERE!

    In OTHER words, YOU are asking what should be done for a BOTTOM UP approach, and companies generally work from the top DOWN.

    Steve
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