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OH NO!!!!!! AUTISM IS INCREASING!

by seasoned
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Since I have spoken before about how autism numbers are skewed, etc... Here is an example of an autistic boy. I don't even know why they had him tested. But in the us, prior to sometime in the 1980s, I don't think he could have been classified as autistic. Few would suggest, even now, and fewer would have him tested, for a variety of reasons. Of course as time passes, those that suggest, and those that diagnose, and the benefits increase.


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    What's your point, Steve?
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    I thought it was an interesting video, but people speak of how autism is increasing. This is one of MANY that, had he been born 20-30 years earlier, would NOT be counted.

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    You're arguing semantics. Whatever you call a shoe, it is still a shoe. Different terms such as "nerd" might have been applied to him in the past. He would have been differentiated and had the same characteristics and idiosyncrasies as he had been before he got a formal diagnoses of Aspergers, so it pretty much would have amounted to the same thing. Hopefully, a greater understanding of it can lead to better treatment of people on the autism spectrum or whatever you want to call it.

    (Many people with Asperger's have never been diagnosed and not even personally been aware of it or just discover at a rather advanced age, eg singer Susan Boyle .)
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      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      You're arguing semantics. Whatever you call a shoe, it is still a shoe. Different terms such as "nerd" might have been applied to him in the past. He would have been differentiated and had the same characteristics and idiosyncrasies as he had been before he got a formal diagnoses of Aspergers, so it pretty much would have amounted to the same thing. Hopefully, a greater understanding of it can lead to better treatment of people on the autism spectrum or whatever you want to call it.
      Get out why you can, the length of arguments will grow and it will be the end of your soul!!!
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      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      You're arguing semantics. Whatever you call a shoe, it is still a shoe. Different terms such as "nerd" might have been applied to him in the past. He would have been differentiated and had the same characteristics and idiosyncrasies as he had been before he got a formal diagnoses of Aspergers, so it pretty much would have amounted to the same thing. Hopefully, a greater understanding of it can lead to better treatment of people on the autism spectrum or whatever you want to call it.

      (Many people with Asperger's have never been diagnosed and may not even be aware of it or just discover at a rather advanced age, eg singer Susan Boyle .)
      Here in the states "treatment" is exactly what they get. They've been broadening the symptoms about as fast as they can make new drugs to give kids they can classify. If you aren't exactly the same as everyone else now, they tell you that it's because you're sick in the head and give you drugs for it. I know a lot of kids that are a little different, but not that far off - yet they're being "treated". It's a farce.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      You're arguing semantics. Whatever you call a shoe, it is still a shoe. Different terms such as "nerd" might have been applied to him in the past. He would have been differentiated and had the same characteristics and idiosyncrasies as he had been before he got a formal diagnoses of Aspergers, so it pretty much would have amounted to the same thing. Hopefully, a greater understanding of it can lead to better treatment of people on the autism spectrum or whatever you want to call it.

      (Many people with Asperger's have never been diagnosed and not even personally been aware of it or just discover at a rather advanced age, eg singer Susan Boyle .)
      I'm NOT arguing semantics! YOU just argued ******MY****** side! I said he would not have been COUNTED! The fact is that he would still EXIST! So the SAME number of people would have autism, but the statistics would show it INCREASING!

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        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        I'm NOT arguing semantics! YOU just argued ******MY****** side! I said he would not have been COUNTED! The fact is that he would still EXIST! So the SAME number of people would have autism, but the statistics would show it INCREASING!

        Steve
        Got it. HeySal's concerns certainly ring true. When it comes to improvement of societal reaction towards someone with Asperger's characteristics and formally assessed as being on the autism spectrum, I'll have to see it to believe it.
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          Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

          Got it. HeySal's concerns certainly ring true. When it comes to improvement of societal reaction towards someone with Asperger's characteristics and formally diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum, I'll have to see it to believe it.
          Well, I think the only IMPROVEMENT of societal reaction towards them so far, or there ever will be, has been in others identifying with it, and the appreciation that the "disorder" is give and take. That is to say that it isn't like mental retardation or MS. It is almost like a different distribution of interests and abilities, so you may dislike some of the "deficits", due to different main interests and a lack of social abilities, but really appreciate some of the benefits. It is like in the video above where he was given a strong interest and ability in math, and laughs at what he lost and said something like "So THAT is why I have so many social problems". Oh well, he has ten more years to worry about it. He is working towards his masters. Most in Germany wouldn't have even taken the Abitur yet. Most in the US wouldn't have passed highschool.

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