Bowe Bergdahl, once-missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

I think he should face a court martial - but I have a feeling he'll be allowed to cut a deal to avoid that. We'll see. He's a strange bird.

I would have rather seen the O take as much painstaking care in bringing Sgt. Tahmooressi home. As the stepmother and cousin of two Wounded Warrior Marines, both with severe brain trauma and PTSD, to leave Sgt. Tahmooressi to more or less ROT in that Mexican jail without the O giving Mrs. Tahmooressi so much as a phone call, while he blathered on in the Rose Garden over a DESERTER was a bit hard to stomach.

They should have left Bergdahl where he was until there was a safe way to get him out without releasing those five terrorists.

Bringing Sgt. Tahmooressi home would have been the ultimate in leaving no man behind. Even though he wasn't in a battlefield at the time, the treatment he received in that Mexican jail were abhorrent! And releasing him would NOT have taken a trade-off of FIVE terrorists.

It's a major understatement for me to say that the O has his priorities ALL F**ed up, and I believe it's very intentional.

We already did.

YEAH, we took them back. A number are in the GOVERNMENT now! ONE, though he "served" to some degree, he fought against the war, even ran for president, and is now working hard to make sure IRAN becomes a nuclear power!

Steve

Good point.

Fric.

I thought about what you said. I have to agree. Steve has never, as far as I can tell, insulted another member...not even in a joking way.

Seasoned does say some things that are way, way out there.

Many things I totally do NOT agree with him at all.

That being said I will have to concede that you are right he really doesn't get overly insulting in a direct, ugly way toward other members.

It is pretty amazing considering some of the retorts we aim at him after he says something a little out there

And I am not saying others here necessarily do.

Iam just saying there is some Truth to what you say about him

Well because he doesn't NEED to. When you vomit INSULTS at entire groups you have your bases ALL covered ALREADY.

P.S. NO keyboards were HARMED in the course of this DEMONSTRATION

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EXACTLY! So it is like the enemy got SEVEN terrorists back, by their act of terror! HOW did I figure SEVEN? They got the five you mentioned! They got ANOTHER that apparently helped them out with IEDs, Afghanistan BB. They got ANOTHER that could do who knows what, and send them info, American BB.

The latest German Wings incident really makes one think. I haven't followed it as much as I should have but APPARENTLY the copilot had mental issues and his doctor excused him from work, but the copilot decided to NOT use the excuse! From what I understand, the copilot is supposed to fly the plane ONLY under direction of the pilot, or if the pilot is unable to do so. The copilot then locked the pilot out of the cabin when he left the cabin. MANY are saying the copilot must have INTENTIONALLY crashed the plane, and a lot of evidence suggests that there was NO problem, and apparently someone was knocking hard to get into the cockpit after the start of the descent.

Anyway, the German Wings incident would have been VERY different if the cabin was like they were PRIOR to 9/11. Many here may be too young, or perhaps never had the experience, but it used to be almost a right of passage for young kids to meet the crew in the cockpit, and even got little wings, on their first flight! TODAY, all are LOCKED OUT of the cockpit and forbidden, at least by US federal law, to even attempt to go there!

Steve

Back to reality...


The Taliban fighters traded for Bowe Bergdahl wouldn't have been at Gitmo for long, anyway:


http://theweek.com/speedreads/452303...mo-long-anyway

I was simply showing how an outgrowth from the US backlash with terrorists helped to CREATE such a problem.

Steve

Funny. You can't really think that. The guy was an idiot.

Back to reality again...

The Taliban fighters traded for Bowe Bergdahl wouldn't have been at Gitmo for long, anyway:

The Taliban fighters traded for Bowe Bergdahl wouldn't have been at Gitmo for long, anyway

Actually, I misspoke. Lincoln was our first commie. Keep forgetting that. Our two greatest presidents were commies.

Seriously though, Lincoln wasn't quite a Marxist but he wasn't a laissez-faire capitalist either. He believed in s relationship between capital and labor, but considered labor superior to capital. Lincoln was aware of Karl Marx but Marx was more of an admirer of Lincoln than vice versa. However, Lincoln actually did have a few who were close to Marx serve in his cabinet or as council, including Marx's editor, who was involved in urging Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. So, I guess you could call Lincoln a Comrade. It's very interesting reading for those of you who can get beyond thinking Hannity is a genius. Lol

BTW, here's a letter to Lincoln congratulating him for his 1864 reelection:

"Sir: We congratulate the American people upon your re-election by a large majority. If resistance to the Slave Power was the reserved watchword of your first election, the triumphant war cry of your re-election is Death to Slavery.

From the commencement of the titanic American strife the workingmen of Europe felt instinctively that the star-spangled banner carried the destiny of their class. The contest for the territories which opened the dire epopee, was it not to decide whether the virgin soil of immense tracts should be wedded to the labor of the emigrant or prostituted by the tramp of the slave driver?

When an oligarchy of 300,000 slaveholders dared to inscribe, for the first time in the annals of the world, “slavery” on the banner of Armed Revolt, when on the very spots where hardly a century ago the idea of one great Democratic Republic had first sprung up, whence the first Declaration of the Rights of Man was issued, and the first impulse given to the European revolution of the eighteenth century; when on those very spots counter-revolution, with systematic thoroughness, gloried in rescinding “the ideas entertained at the time of the formation of the old constitution,” and maintained slavery to be “a beneficent institution,” indeed, the old solution of the great problem of “the relation of capital to labor,” and cynically proclaimed property in man “the cornerstone of the new edifice”—then the working classes of Europe understood at once, even before the fanatic partisanship of the upper classes for the Confederate gentry had given its dismal warning, that the slaveholders’ rebellion was to sound the tocsin for a general holy crusade of property against labor, and that for the men of labor, with their hopes for the future, even their past conquests were at stake in that tremendous conflict on the other side of the Atlantic. Everywhere they bore therefore patiently the hardships imposed upon them by the cotton crisis, opposed enthusiastically the pro-slavery intervention of their betters—and, from most parts of Europe, contributed their quota of blood to the good cause.

While the workingmen, the true political powers of the North, allowed slavery to defile their own republic, while before the Negro, mastered and sold without his concurrence, they boasted it the highest prerogative of the white-skinned laborer to sell himself and choose his own master, they were unable to attain the true freedom of labor, or to support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation; but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war.

The workingmen of Europe feel sure that, as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes. They consider it an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world." - Karl Marx

Why Did FDR's New Deal Harm Blacks? | Cato Institute

And here we are again.

So you are lauding a bill sponsored by two republicans, and passed by a republican president? I mean you COULDN'T be against trying to have parity with the market!

Well, the federal government was really not supposed to be for the people anyway! OH SURE, the preamble claims it, but read it some time. It isn't really for the people, but for the COUNTRY! The people are supposed to benefit as a CONSEQUENCE! THAT is SUSTAINABLE! If you pay all you have to support the current people, because they "NEED" it, the country suffers, and the people suffer as a result. I think the constitution makes that clear in outlining congress' powers:

BTW it ALSO says: The logical result of that statement? SOME Militia are NOT employed by the US!

Anyway, the federal government OBVIOUSLY had ONE purpose!!!!!!!!!

The purpose was to protect and provide for the COUNTRY!

TO THAT END, it was to make sure some laws were standardized between the states, and that trade was fair a free. ALSO, they should have a common infrastructure!

TO THAT END, relations with other nations were to be maintained.

NO MENTION is made about the people. NO MENTION is even made of the states outside of the governments limited abilities towards them. HECK, DC was even limited to 10 square miles!

Steve

This is where you drop the mic. Lol