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Unbelievable what horrific things some Drugs can do to people

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I wasn't sure I was seeing this right at first. And just to get high

Horrible !!

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Yeah. I've been reading a lot about Krokodil and have seen pics and it is truly horrible. These people are heroin addicts and Krokodil is a cheap substitute that literally eats your flesh away. I'd just love to gather up all the dealers of this poison and feed it to them in large quantities until they have no flesh left.
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      I'm surprised some enterprising IM'er hasn't started marketing it as a miracle weight loss product.

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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        I'm surprised some enterprising IM'er hasn't started marketing it as a miracle weight loss product.

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        I head Kern was looking to JV with it
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        I'm surprised some enterprising IM'er hasn't started marketing it as a miracle weight loss product.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm sorry. No empathy. When your body starts to rot that should be the damned clue to stop, ya think? You either want to live or you don't.
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    • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm sorry. No empathy. When your body starts to rot that should be the damned clue to stop, ya think? You either want to live or you don't.
      The addiction is just too overpowering.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

        The addiction is just too overpowering.
        Bullshit. If it is, then that's called survival of the fittest. I know plenty of people who have gotten unaddicted to just about every drug going. Nicotine is one of the worst and people stop smoking every day - heroin, they stop if they want to. Crack - the same.
        Pharmaceuticals - when people aren't too afraid and obedient to tell a doctor to take a hike when they are killing their patients.

        All it takes is the want to do something -- and if rotting alive isn't enough to make you want to stay away from it...........well, that's natural selection. It takes some fortitude to handle planet earth.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Bullshit. If it is, then that's called survival of the fittest. I know plenty of people who have gotten unaddicted to just about every drug going. Nicotine is one of the worst and people stop smoking every day - heroin, they stop if they want to. Crack - the same.
          Pharmaceuticals - when people aren't too afraid and obedient to tell a doctor to take a hike when they are killing their patients.

          All it takes is the want to do something -- and if rotting alive isn't enough to make you want to stay away from it...........well, that's natural selection. It takes some fortitude to handle planet earth.
          What a crock ... especially coming from someone who is addicted to cigarettes and does this to their lungs



          If you think your little black tips will save you, I'm afraid that you are dangerously in denial.

          Heroin is one of the hardest substances to kick and many try for years. Nicotine is also one of the hardest. You should know, but if rotting your lungs out won't convince you ... well, that's natural selection ... isn't it?

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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            What a crock ... especially coming from someone who is addicted to cigarettes and does this to their lungs



            If you think your little black tips will save you, I'm afraid that you are dangerously in denial.

            Heroin is one of the hardest substances to kick and many try for years. Nicotine is also one of the hardest. You should know, but if rotting your lungs out won't convince you ... well, that's natural selection ... isn't it?

            The Progression of Lung Cancer | Symptoms & Stages of Lung Cancer
            Your source is weak.
            I've done my research, thanks. I don't have cancer like 60% of lung cancer victims who, incidentally, have never smoked. If I want to stop, I will. Simple as that. If my health starts taking a hit from it, I certainly will. My lungs function better now than they did when I was a kid. So explain to me this one.

            2/3 of lung cancer victims have never smoked or smoked only shortly and quit (it takes 5 years to completely regenerate lung tissue).
            2/3 of men in Japan smoke - but there is no lung cancer problem there.
            1 out of 3 smokers get cancer. 1 out of 3 Americans get cancer - where's the difference in those stats?
            Smokers who are athletically aerobically fit do not die any younger than non-smokers.

            I know the majority believe what your source says. I don't. Don't waste your time trying to convince me. If I ever die of cancer (which is unlikely to happen even if I were to contract it), you have permission to dance on my grave and hang up an "I told you so" banner.

            Sorry - I have reasons for not believing that people can't quit anything they want to quit.

            Claude - warm and fuzzy was never my strong suit. Yet - I never expected anything from anyone that I couldn't accomplish myself. You fill in the blanks.

            That's all.
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Don't waste your time trying to convince me. If I ever die of cancer (which is unlikely to happen even if I were to contract it), you have permission to dance on my grave and hang up an "I told you so" banner.

              Claude - warm and fuzzy was never my strong suit. Yet - I never expected anything from anyone that I couldn't accomplish myself. You fill in the blanks.

              That's all.
              We know warmth and empathy aren't your strong points, unless an animal is involved. I wouldn't waste my time trying to convince you. Delude yourself in any way that makes you feel good about smoking. I was just pointing out the pure hypocrisy of your posts .... looking down on others as if they are less than animals when you do the same thing. Pollute your body with poisons in spite of the grave risks and tell yourself pretty little stories about why it won't affect you.

              Smoking-Attributable Lung Cancer

              Smoking, a main cause of small cell and non-small cell lung cancer, contributes to 80 percent and 90 percent of lung cancer deaths in women and men, respectively. Men who smoke are 23 times more likely to develop lung cancer. Women are 13 times more likely, compared to never smokers.

              Between 2005 and 2010, an average of 130,659 Americans (74,300 men and 56,359 women) died of smoking-attributable lung cancer each year. Exposure to secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 lung cancer deaths among nonsmokers every year.

              It has been estimated that active smoking is responsible for close to 90 percent of lung cancer cases; radon causes 10 percent, occupational exposures to carcinogens account for approximately 9 to 15 percent and outdoor air pollution 1 to 2 percent. Because of the interactions between exposures, the combined attributable risk for lung cancer can exceed 100 percent.

              Nonsmokers have a 20-30 percent greater chance of developing lung cancer if they are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work.10
              http://www.lung.org/lung-disease/lun...act-sheet.html

              Lung cancer estimates for 2014 (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014):
              New cases of lung cancer: 224,210
              Males: 116,000
              Females: 108,210
              Deaths from lung cancer: 159,260
              Males: 86,930
              Females: 72,330
              Women smokers are 25.7 times more likely than women who never smoked to develop lung cancer. For men smokers, it’s 25 times the risk of men who never smoked. (Source: US Surgeon General Report 2014)
              Besides lung cancer, tobacco use also increases the risk for cancers of the mouth, lips, nose and sinuses, larynx (voice box), pharynx (throat), esophagus (swallowing tube), stomach, pancreas, kidney, bladder, uterus, cervix, colon/rectum, ovary (mucinous), and acute myeloid leukemia. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
              In the United States, tobacco use is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 deaths; this equals about 480,000 early deaths each year. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014; and US Surgeon General Report 2014)
              Tobacco use accounts for at least 30% of all cancer deaths, causing 87% of lung cancer deaths in men, and 70% of lung cancer deaths in women. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
              http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerc...cer-fact-sheet
              But no Sal. I'm not you by a long shot. Dancing on someone's grave and saying I told you so isn't in my make up.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Your source is weak.
              I've done my research, thanks. I don't have cancer like 60% of lung cancer victims who, incidentally, have never smoked. If I want to stop, I will. Simple as that. If my health starts taking a hit from it, I certainly will. My lungs function better now than they did when I was a kid. So explain to me this one.

              2/3 of lung cancer victims have never smoked or smoked only shortly and quit (it takes 5 years to completely regenerate lung tissue).
              2/3 of men in Japan smoke - but there is no lung cancer problem there.
              1 out of 3 smokers get cancer. 1 out of 3 Americans get cancer - where's the difference in those stats?
              Smokers who are athletically aerobically fit do not die any younger than non-smokers.

              I know the majority believe what your source says. I don't. Don't waste your time trying to convince me. If I ever die of cancer (which is unlikely to happen even if I were to contract it), you have permission to dance on my grave and hang up an "I told you so" banner.

              Sorry - I have reasons for not believing that people can't quit anything they want to quit.

              Claude - warm and fuzzy was never my strong suit. Yet - I never expected anything from anyone that I couldn't accomplish myself. You fill in the blanks.

              That's all.

              You really need to stop using stats, as you simply don't apply them correctly.


              First, lung cancer isn't the only health problem associated with smoking. You always leave out heart disease and the many other issues.

              Then you always bring up Japanese men. I hate to break this to you, but you're not a Japanese man. You don't have the correct chromosomes or the right DNA. You don't live in the same environment, nor do you eat the same food. BTW, most health experts attribute lower lung cancer rates to the fact that Japanese men begin smoking at a later age than other demographics. When did you start smoking? Was it at the same age Japanese men did?

              And your stats that smokers and none smokers have the same lung cancer rate is bogus. A stat I'm sure you cherry picked out of numerous research to the contrary. Do the math. But when you do, also include every other type of cancer, heart disease and other issues associated with smoking. You conveniently always leave these out of the discussion.

              Your cherry picking of stats does a great disservice to the health of others, just so you can defend your poor choices. Smoking is the greatest preventable cause of death. Smoke if you want. But quit pretending that it isn't harmful. That's just plain ignorant.
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              • Profile picture of the author discrat
                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                You really need to stop using stats, as you simply don't apply them correctly.


                First, lung cancer isn't the only health problem associated with smoking. You always leave out heart disease and the many other issues.

                Then you always bring up Japanese men. I hate to break this to you, but you're not a Japanese man. You don't have the correct chromosomes or the right DNA. You don't live in the same environment, nor do you eat the same food. BTW, most health experts attribute lower lung cancer rates to the fact that Japanese men begin smoking at a later age than other demographics. When did you start smoking? Was it at the same age Japanese men did?

                And your stats that smokers and none smokers have the same lung cancer rate is bogus. A stat I'm sure you cherry picked out of numerous research to the contrary. Do the math. But when you do, also include every other type of cancer, heart disease and other issues associated with smoking. You conveniently always leave these out of the discussion.

                Your cherry picking of stats does a great disservice to the health of others, just so you can defend your poor choices. Smoking is the greatest preventable cause of death. Smoke if you want. But quit pretending that it isn't harmful. That's just plain ignorant.
                Lung Cancer caused by Smoking ? How would anyone in their right mind believe that ?

                Its just another Conspiracy brought on from the Health Care Industry, right ?
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Bullshit. If it is, then that's called survival of the fittest. I know plenty of people who have gotten unaddicted to just about every drug going. Nicotine is one of the worst and people stop smoking every day - heroin, they stop if they want to. Crack - the same.
          Pharmaceuticals - when people aren't too afraid and obedient to tell a doctor to take a hike when they are killing their patients.

          All it takes is the want to do something -- and if rotting alive isn't enough to make you want to stay away from it...........well, that's natural selection. It takes some fortitude to handle planet earth.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm sorry. No empathy. When your body starts to rot that should be the damned clue to stop, ya think? You either want to live or you don't.
      Except if your daughter, son, nephew, niece, brother, sister etc..etc.. had a complete lapse of judgement or they honestly were given something they had no idea could do this.

      But of course no one in here under any circumstance would have close friends or family members who would ever have such an insane lapse of judgement

      Its not in your bloodline, right ? lol

      Im sure if it was a dear Cat or Dog the Empathy train would be in full force
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        I really do have something profound to say, but as sure as I'm sitting here, it would be deleted and I might get banned, so I'll just keep it to myself.

        But I will say, that is nasty and unbelievable that some people can experience addictions so strong that they do that crap!

        It's horrendous, mind blowing and so, so tragic!


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          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          I really do have something profound to say, but as sure as I'm sitting here, it would be deleted and I might get banned, so I'll just keep it to myself.

          But I will say, that is nasty and unbelievable that some people can experience addictions so strong that they do that crap!

          It's horrendous, mind blowing and so, so tragic!


          Terra
          Since prolonged use of the drug is terminal (the typical lifespan of a krokodil addict is estimated to be about two years), it’s impossible to really know how many people have been addicted to it, but what’s clear is that it’s no longer just Russia’s problem. Like any cheap but effective street drug, it’s spreading to other impoverished areas where people can quickly learn how to make it.

          One of those places is Mexico.

          The New York Daily News recently reported on a girl in Mexico City who was hospitalized with “severe lacerations” to her reproductive organs. What was first thought to be a horrific STD infection turned out to be the effects of the 17-year old injecting krokodil directly into her genitals.

          “The young woman who used this drug had an infection that had rotted her genitals,” Mexico’s National Institute of Migration’s José Sotero Ruiz Hernández told El Periodico Correo.

          “It wasn’t sexually transmitted. She said she’d been using krokodil for the last two months,” he added.

          Cases like that could begin appearing with increasing frequency in Mexico City, where other toxic highs like huffing glue, gasoline and propane have already taken a terrible toll on the poorest communities—with children and teenagers topping the list of those hardest hit.

          In a recent report, Time magazine dubbed krokodil “The World’s Deadliest Drug” and chronicled the cheap narcotic’s movement out of Russia into Europe and now into parts of North and South America. “The monster has crossed the ocean,” according to the Time report.

          So far, however, emergency rooms in the U.S. are not reporting cases involving krokodil, and those that have been reported are still unverified.

          In U.S. cities, heroin, methamphetamine and prescription drugs are the reigning addiction heavyweights. It’s unlikely that krokodil will ever come close to any of these, or for that matter even take hold here. The relatively lower cost and higher availability of other drugs makes using a corrosive, euphoric acid unappealing to even the worst-off junkies. As a Slate article recently pointed out, why would drug users in the U.S., where heroin is relatively cheap and easy to find, go out of their way to find krokodil, a drug that would be much harder to locate and will eat their flesh?
          This isn't taking hold in the US. Started in Russia and really took hold there. Now Mexico and probably some other countries have it. It's a drug of the poor and probably young and not too bright. Some might not even know of the consequences of using it before they take it. Their lifespan after regular use is 2 years. Who knows what a dealer is telling them that they are taking.

          The most destructive drug in the US is meth.

          In terms of raw physical damage, meth comes closest to krokodil, with the infamous “meth mouth” dental destruction and pervasive skin lesions that make seasoned meth users look many years older than they are. But even meth, as destructive as it is, doesn’t measure up to the suicide high of the flesh-eating narcotic.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Yep, l researched it before, apparently they are fully aware but keep taking it!

            It seems that taking liberties away from these individuals and effectively keeping them away from this S***. is the only way.

            But a non lethal alternative might help?

            Dare l say it, even shock therapy might be a better option?

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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Yep, l researched it before, apparently they are fully aware but keep taking it!

              It seems that taking liberties away from these individuals and effectively keeping them away from this S***. is the only way.

              But a non lethal alternative might help?

              Dare l say it, even shock therapy might be a better option?
              In the countries that this is rampant, they sell codeine over the counter. The US doesn't. Restricting codeine is a good idea for those countries seeing a krokodil problem. Initiating some methodone treatment centers for heroin addicts might be a good idea too.
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    As horrible as krokodil, bath sales, and other 'horror drug du jour' can be, the worst addiction is a SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.

    Seriously.
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      Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

      As horrible as krokodil, bath sales, and other 'horror drug du jour' can be, the worst addiction is a SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.

      Seriously.
      Seriously? Spoken like a man that has never been seriously addicted to anything. lol

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