Speaking of Bad Manners

by HeySal
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Seriously - can you believe that out of at least a dozen trucks with men in them, not one stopped to help an older woman changing a flat tire in the middle of the night? I've never been so surprised or ticked off. Okay it was Saturday night and you didn't want to get dirty. Right. I had just come from a friends I stopped to visit on my way home from a rock hunt, and my tire went flat - so I pulled off into a casino parking lot so I could get some light. Out of many cars and about a dozen trucks coming and going not one person even asked if I needed help. What a bunch of dickless wonders.

I handled it myself, but I wonder if any of them felt any twinge of guilt for being such worthless a**holes. I wonder how they'd have felt if it had been their own mothers in that situation. Thank God I know how to do for myself a bit or I'd have been stuck there.

I can't believe it. Never in my life have I seen anything like it. I'm a woman with no upper body strength and I would have at least offered to shine my headlights for the person so they could see what they were doing.

Guess it would be fruitless to try to shame people that self absorbed. They probably are too drooling stupid to know they should be a bit ashamed of themselves. (Note: this wasn't the big city - I was in a 4 corner size town).
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    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    What a bunch of dickless wonders.

    I handled it myself, but I wonder if any of them felt any twinge of guilt for being such worthless a**holes. I wonder how they'd have felt if it had been their own mothers in that situation. Thank God I know how to do for myself a bit or I'd have been stuck there.

    I can't believe it. Never in my life have I seen anything like it. I'm a woman with no upper body strength and I would have at least offered to shine my headlights for the person so they could see what they were doing.

    Guess it would be fruitless to try to shame people that self absorbed. They probably are too drooling stupid to know they should be a bit ashamed of themselves. (Note: this wasn't the big city - I was in a 4 corner size town).
    Well, keep in mind that because of what a lot of men hear these days, their afraid that if they offer to help they'll get hit upside the head with a tire iron by some crazed feminist. It is a shame, though that even Podunk is getting more like the rest of the country.

    Cheers. - Frank

    P.S. I would have held the flashlight for ya', Sal. You probably have more upper body strength that I have. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      Well, keep in mind that because of what a lot of men hear these days, their afraid that if they offer to help they'll get hit upside the head with a tire iron by some crazed feminist. It is a shame, though that even Podunk is getting more like the rest of the country.

      Cheers. - Frank

      P.S. I would have held the flashlight for ya', Sal. You probably have more upper body strength that I have. :-)
      That was about all I needed, Frank. Just had trouble seeing what I was doing. I know that feminists are crazy - but a small older woman in the middle of the night with a flat tire is now scary? Face it - there are just a lot of people turning into selfish whimps. At least you still don't run into that jive out on the 4WD backroads, where people will actually take you, and haul your rig to the nearest town if need be. I hope that doesn't change, too. I can't imagine a 4Wer ever leaving another 4Wer stranded -- at any time of the day or night.

      Sometimes it's hard to keep from getting jaded and restraining myself from becoming the same sort of douche as those guys last night who were able to stare but not ask if I might need some help - a better jack, a little light, etc. I'm glad my friends don't act like that. I have friends I can have pride in - and it would embarrass me crapless to be caught in the company of such a man as one who would not come to the aid of a woman like those idiots. Ah well - can't get dirty on Saturday when you are trying to pick up chicks, huh? I wonder if they realize they'd have been a lot sexier to the women they were trying to pick up with a little dirt on them and the story of helping out a stranded old lady. Dipsticks.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Sometimes it's hard to keep from getting jaded and restraining myself from becoming the same sort of douche as those guys last night who were able to stare but not ask if I might need some help - a better jack, a little light, etc.
        It's been my experience that we all have our own personal level of douche. It's just the way the world is and there's not much anyone can do about it.

        No AAA where you live? I never leave home without it.

        Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Sal,

        I'm so sorry you had to experience that! You know Bill and I would have helped you in a jumpin' Jack flash!

        We just got back from the hardware store. When we went in, it was sunny and hot and humid. When we came back out, it was pouring! In the parking lot was a elderly little woman with a bag in one hand, an umbrella in the other and she was trying to unlock her car door with the hand that held the umbrella and sort of bending to stay under the umbrella. It wasn't working out so well for her.

        Bill and I went over to her and asked her if we could help. She looked so relieved. I took her bag and Bill took her keys and unlocked her door. I set her bag on her back seat, Bill took her umbrella as he was helping her get in and closed the umbrella for her.

        She was so grateful and yet concerned about us too. She told us to go straight home and change out of our wet things before we caught pneumonia, lol!

        It felt great to help her. All I could think of was my grama before she passed this past October, God rest her soul!

        I don't understand selfish people. At all!


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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          I took her bag and rifled it and Bill took her keys and locked her in the trunk. Terra
          Fixed that for ya'.

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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Years ago I had car trouble on a major Atlanta highway. I knew there was a service station at the next exit - and this was before we all had cell phones.

            It was after midnight - I was in a dress and heels. Was headed home to the burbs after a downtown dinner with friends.

            I started walking along the highway - BMWs, Mercedes, Cadillacs just whizzed by me. An old truck pulled over and two rough-looking men offered me a ride. They were wearing tank tops - had bandanas around their sweaty heads - hadn't shaved for a while. I got in. When they dropped me off at the service station the driver told me "it's not safe to just git in a truck with strange men - we could have took advantage of you. What would you have did if we weren't good people?" I told him "I'd hope after you took advantage you'd drop me off at the service station." He was still laughing when he pulled away.

            I've had 2 flat tires - one in heavy rain. Both times people stopped within minutes to help me. I tried to decline once but the man would not take no for an answer. I think it's depends on where you have the flat - and the mentality of people in that particular area. In the casino where I worked, had you asked for help the security people would have changed the tire. Don't know if that is common or not.

            I can change a tire (and I know Sal can, too) - but to loosen the bolt thingies I usually have to step on the tire iron and jump up and down a bit.

            For that reason - and because I've gotten lazy as I've gotten older....I have AAA.
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            • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              Years ago I had car trouble on a major Atlanta highway. I knew there was a service station at the next exit - and this was before we all had cell phones.

              It was after midnight - I was in a dress and heels. Was headed home to the burbs after a downtown dinner with friends.

              I started walking along the highway - BMWs, Mercedes, Cadillacs just whizzed by me. An old truck pulled over and two rough-looking men offered me a ride. They were wearing tank tops - had bandanas around their sweaty heads - hadn't shaved for a while. I got in. When they dropped me off at the service station the driver told me "it's not safe to just git in a truck with strange men - we could have took advantage of you. What would you have did if we weren't good people?" I told him "I'd hope after you took advantage you'd drop me off at the service station." He was still laughing when he pulled away.

              I've had 2 flat tires - one in heavy rain. Both times people stopped within minutes to help me. I tried to decline once but the man would not take no for an answer. I think it's depends on where you have the flat - and the mentality of people in that particular area. In the casino where I worked, had you asked for help the security people would have changed the tire. Don't know if that is common or not.

              I can change a tire (and I know Sal can, too) - but to loosen the bolt thingies I usually have to step on the tire iron and jump up and down a bit.

              For that reason - and because I've gotten lazy as I've gotten older....I have AAA.
              I usually have to step on the tire iron because "mechanics" these days use air wrenches on everything.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                I usually have to step on the tire iron because "mechanics" these days use air wrenches on everything.
                I just had a flat last Sunday and the last mechanic not only air wrenched the hell out of two lug nuts but also cross-threaded them. I broke one of the studs (and nearly my own spine) trying to get one of the lug nuts off. I had to put the other lugs back on and limp to a tire dealer down the street.

                And you know what else? Nobody stopped to offer me any assistance.
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                • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
                  Last time I had a flat was around 2 am on a long stretch of road before you can get off of it. It was a really rough neighborhood area to stop, very dark at 2 in the morning, as well as colder than freezing outside so I just kept going. The tire flew off entirely and I drove home on the steel wheel that holds the tire.

                  I woke my husband and told him we had to get moving early in the morning since I probably wrecked the wheel. He and a kind neighbor got the donut on in the morning and we got another tire because somehow that steel wheel was still in good shape after at least 4 miles without a tire.

                  There are just some times it doesn't pay to to pull over and stop.

                  Sorry nobody stopped to help you, Sal. It's probably getting more common since the way things are done in this country. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

                  I can remember long ago when two guys jumped out of their car in heavy traffic to put on my spare for me, but I doubt that kind of being helpful is common any longer.

                  I don't doubt there are many good people around. Those people probably just weren't out and available to help you that night.
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                  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                    Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

                    I can remember long ago when two guys jumped out of their car in heavy traffic to put on my spare for me, but I doubt that kind of being helpful is common any longer.

                    I don't doubt there are many good people around. Those people probably just weren't out and available to help you that night.
                    OH, people are around that will do that, they are just RARER!

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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  ....air wrenched the hell out of two lug nuts.......
                  Too easy. I'll pass.

                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  And you know what else? Nobody stopped to offer me any assistance.
                  Was it daytime, where they could see you? You have your answer.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            Fixed that for ya'.

            Cheers. - Frank
            Step away from the hallucinogenics , LOL!

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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Step away from the hallucinogenics , LOL!

              Terra
              Admit it. That was one of my better efforts. It even made me smile. lol

              Cheers. - Frank
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                Admit it. That was one of my better efforts. It even made me smile. lol

                Cheers. - Frank
                I'm glad I can give you such pleasure, lol!

                It was a good start is all. It lacks a climax and ending.


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                • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  I'm glad I can give you such pleasure, lol!
                  Too easy. Not touching it. :-)
                  It was a good start is all. It lacks a climax and ending. Terra
                  Ditto.

                  Cheers. - Frank
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                    Too easy. Not touching it. :-)
                    Ditto.

                    Cheers. - Frank
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                    I just love it when you behave!


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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          I don't understand selfish people. At all! Terra
          What is it specifically that you don't understand? I'd be happy to spell it all out for you. :-)

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            What is it specifically that you don't understand? I'd be happy to spell it all out for you. :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
            Liar!

            I know you, Big hearted Frank!


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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Liar!I know you, Big hearted Frank! Terra
              No. I'm not the liar. You're the liar. lol

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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Sal,

          I'm so sorry you had to experience that! You know Bill and I would have helped you in a jumpin' Jack flash!

          We just got back from the hardware store. When we went in, it was sunny and hot and humid. When we came back out, it was pouring! In the parking lot was a elderly little woman with a bag in one hand, an umbrella in the other and she was trying to unlock her car door with the hand that held the umbrella and sort of bending to stay under the umbrella. It wasn't working out so well for her.

          Bill and I went over to her and asked her if we could help. She looked so relieved. I took her bag and Bill took her keys and unlocked her door. I set her bag on her back seat, Bill took her umbrella as he was helping her get in and closed the umbrella for her.

          She was so grateful and yet concerned about us too. She told us to go straight home and change out of our wet things before we caught pneumonia, lol!

          It felt great to help her. All I could think of was my grama before she passed this past October, God rest her soul!

          I don't understand selfish people. At all!


          Terra
          Well, I know you and Bill have enough class to do nice things for people. The people on my rock website - female, male - would never pass someone without making sure they're alright. All of us have had to do walk outs at one time or another and it's just against the unwritten creed to leave people stranded.

          I remember a time I passed a woman by a bus stop. I knew the bus went close to where I live. This woman looked tired, had groceries, and it was starting to rain. Her bus wasn't due for 15 minutes. I stopped and gave her a lift. What that act of kindness meant to her, I'll never forget. I went about a mile and ten minutes out of my way so it wasn't any big deal - and it was worth it in spades to see the relief in her face and see how much it changed her day and point of view.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        That was about all I needed, Frank. Just had trouble seeing what I was doing. I know that feminists are crazy - but a small older woman in the middle of the night with a flat tire is now scary? Face it - there are just a lot of people turning into selfish whimps. At least you still don't run into that jive out on the 4WD backroads, where people will actually take you, and haul your rig to the nearest town if need be. I hope that doesn't change, too. I can't imagine a 4Wer ever leaving another 4Wer stranded -- at any time of the day or night.

        Sometimes it's hard to keep from getting jaded and restraining myself from becoming the same sort of douche as those guys last night who were able to stare but not ask if I might need some help - a better jack, a little light, etc. I'm glad my friends don't act like that. I have friends I can have pride in - and it would embarrass me crapless to be caught in the company of such a man as one who would not come to the aid of a woman like those idiots. Ah well - can't get dirty on Saturday when you are trying to pick up chicks, huh? I wonder if they realize they'd have been a lot sexier to the women they were trying to pick up with a little dirt on them and the story of helping out a stranded old lady. Dipsticks.
        yeah I bet if it was a little dog on the side of the road looking in trouble these people would have stopped in a heartbeat

        I think people have become numb to other human beings and have lost Faith and Empathy in Humanity
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        • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
          The tire iron that comes with the vehicle is often worthless, especially with the way that mechanics over-torque the lug nuts. Instead, get to the nearest hardware store and pick up a cross-shaped lug wrench (if you don't already have one). It costs less than $20 and it works like gangbusters on tight nuts. Keep it in the trunk. Buy a wrench for each of your kids/grandkids, too.

          Another invaluable item to keep in the trunk is a 12-inch piece of wire, about the thickness of a wire coat hanger. You'll need it if your car is ever immobilized by a stuck shift lever that won't move out of park. (The problem happens more often than you may think and it's scary if you don't know what to do.)

          The piece of wire, when pushed into the hole beside the shifter, will release the shift lock and allow you to drive your car home or to the garage for service. (Check the vehicle owner's manual for more details.)

          Two simple items that could keep you (or another motorist) from being stranded in the middle of nowhere.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          yeah I bet if it was a little dog on the side of the road looking in trouble these people would have stopped in a heartbeat

          I think people have become numb to other human beings and have lost Faith and Empathy in Humanity
          I'd like to buy you a beer for that post.
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          • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
            HeySal, my B-I-L just gave us a headlight to wear on your forehead, just in case some light is needed at night so you can work hands free. That might be a little something you could pick up for yourself that would at least be of some help.
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I'd like to buy you a beer for that post.
            Maybe some day if I make it up to Ohio we could have one together and shoot the breeze while looking at some of those latest Hoover models you got
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Seriously - can you believe that out of at least a dozen trucks with men in them, not one stopped to help an older woman changing a flat tire in the middle of the night? I've never been so surprised or ticked off. Okay it was Saturday night and you didn't want to get dirty. Right. I had just come from a friends I stopped to visit on my way home from a rock hunt, and my tire went flat - so I pulled off into a casino parking lot so I could get some light. Out of many cars and about a dozen trucks coming and going not one person even asked if I needed help. What a bunch of dickless wonders.

            I handled it myself, but I wonder if any of them felt any twinge of guilt for being such worthless a**holes. I wonder how they'd have felt if it had been their own mothers in that situation. Thank God I know how to do for myself a bit or I'd have been stuck there.

            I can't believe it. Never in my life have I seen anything like it. I'm a woman with no upper body strength and I would have at least offered to shine my headlights for the person so they could see what they were doing.

            Guess it would be fruitless to try to shame people that self absorbed. They probably are too drooling stupid to know they should be a bit ashamed of themselves. (Note: this wasn't the big city - I was in a 4 corner size town).
            Yes, l would help out, but l would run it past my intuition, (6th sense first).

            That movie with the sociopath trying to get a sofa into his van in the rain, and getting an attractive woman to help him, then trapping her into the van, and keeping her hostage down the bottom of a hole, scared the hell out of me!

            I know rare, but it still happens.


            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            I always thought most people would. They always have before, whether they could see I was handling it on my own or not. And no - it's absolutely not fun to have a flat. It happens, though, and it never seems to happen at a convenient time.

            It infuriates me to no end to see a woman bitch at someone for holding a door for her. I get very vocal about it if I see it happen. There's been a few times I've had the bimbo threaten to hit me for what I've said. I just tell em to bring it. Nothing would make me happier than breaking her arm if she swung at me for standing up for the dignity of the person being polite. I find it's a rare few that are stupid enough, or full enough of themselves to act like that, though. Thanks for small favors. I hope it stays like that. We we can't extend each other small courtesies anymore, it's time to end society completely and see how long those rabid idiots last on their own.
            Funny in AU, it is the other way around, we have a manual door at the shopping center, and everyone pushes the door open for the person behind them regardless.

            Sometimes the escalators aren't operating, and shopping trolleys are virtually impossible to get to the carpark.

            I have had to help two people on occasion with their shopping

            But l do Paleties twice a week, and have good core strength, so it is silly not to help out with individuals who are up against it!

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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          yeah I bet if it was a little dog on the side of the road looking in trouble these people would have stopped in a heartbeat

          I think people have become numb to other human beings and have lost Faith and Empathy in Humanity
          Yeah, what chance would it have to be able to change a tyre on it's Rover anyway. Just trying to take advantage by wimpering and looking sad.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    People leaving a casino are probably either drunk or pissed off at the world because they lost $300 gambling.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      People leaving a casino are probably either drunk or pissed off at the world because they lost $300 gambling.
      It was Podunk. Probably $30. Their life savings, gone!

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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        It was Podunk. Probably $30. Their life savings, gone!

        Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I am sorry that happened.

    Nowadays, realizing a woman might be afraid, I offer to help do the work,
    or call somebody for her, or let her use my phone. They usually have phones,
    of course, and I'm not offended of they stay in the car and say "no thanks" and
    call somebody else.

    Yup, recommend AAA in case you're not in a safe area. Stay in the car and call.

    I am glad you know how to do it yourself.

    Back when it was the boonies between Denver and Castle Rock, I came across
    4 teenage girls whose car had a flat tire. Not one of them knew how to change
    the tire and it was one in the morning. (I was so mad at their parents.) A State
    Patroller came by and held the flashlight for me as I finished changing the tire.
    Put his patrol car lights on as well.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Any plan that relies on the kindness of strangers is seriously flawed. I always have:

    1. A can or two of fix a flat. Almost always works well enough to get some place better. Often, it lasts "semi-permanently". It won't work if you have a blow out, but for leaks it works well.

    2. One of those jump starter boxes that also has an air compressor.

    3. $20 to offer to someone to help. Many people won't take it but still help you, but I don't mind paying for the efforts of other people, and it's a good ice-breaker.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      1. A can or two of fix a flat.
      One of the best inventions ever! I always keep a can in the trunk of my car.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    There are a lot of reasons they might not have stopped, wives, schedules, feminism, etc.... Kurt offered some good advice, but here is one thing I bet nobody here thought of. Get a nice quality lug wrench with a long handle. That is probably ESPECIALLY useful if you are lacking upper body strength. I have changed my share of tires, and was NOT light, but one day felt like an idiot asking the AAA to get someone out to help me. He must have had this happen a LOT! He did just what I did, and failed miserably. He made a comment, and I asked about it, and he said he had people come out for tire changes, and they were always things they could easily have done themselves, but this one was different. He went to his truck, got a much larger wrench, threw all his weight into it and managed to get it to budge. and got it replaced. If you are careful, and it is a good wrench, you can do a lot even if you weigh 100 pounds,

    Just make sure you can handle the regular tire. They aren't light, and they are bulky.

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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      I just realized that the Bimmer has run flat tires. Pretty cool. :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author The Maestro
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    I handled it myself, but I wonder if any of them felt any twinge of guilt for being such worthless a**holes.
    Probably. But then again, if they saw you changing the tire, maybe they assumed you had everything under control. A lot of guys are gun shy now. Maybe they didn't want to get pepper sprayed or tased. Maybe since it was dark they were concerned about scaring you or creeping you out. Heck, young guys don't even know how to change tires anymore.

    About three years ago a woman told me she didn't need me to hold the door open for her at Chipotle. I wasn't holding it because she was a woman. I was holding it because it was the decent thing to do. But I can tell you one thing--I worry about holding doors open for strangers now.

    Anyway, sorry you had a flat. Man or woman, it's never fun.

    PS--I probably would have offered to help you.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by The Maestro View Post

      Probably. But then again, if they saw you changing the tire, maybe they assumed you had everything under control. A lot of guys are gun shy now. Maybe they didn't want to get pepper sprayed or tased. Maybe since it was dark they were concerned about scaring you or creeping you out. Heck, young guys don't even know how to change tires anymore.

      About three years ago a woman told me she didn't need me to hold the door open for her at Chipotle. I wasn't holding it because she was a woman. I was holding it because it was the decent thing to do. But I can tell you one thing--I worry about holding doors open for strangers now.

      Anyway, sorry you had a flat. Man or woman, it's never fun.

      PS--I probably would have offered to help you.
      I always thought most people would. They always have before, whether they could see I was handling it on my own or not. And no - it's absolutely not fun to have a flat. It happens, though, and it never seems to happen at a convenient time.

      It infuriates me to no end to see a woman bitch at someone for holding a door for her. I get very vocal about it if I see it happen. There's been a few times I've had the bimbo threaten to hit me for what I've said. I just tell em to bring it. Nothing would make me happier than breaking her arm if she swung at me for standing up for the dignity of the person being polite. I find it's a rare few that are stupid enough, or full enough of themselves to act like that, though. Thanks for small favors. I hope it stays like that. We we can't extend each other small courtesies anymore, it's time to end society completely and see how long those rabid idiots last on their own.
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    Steve - I don't need advice. I know how to change a tire. I also don't really care what these guys thought their excuses were for not asking if I needed help. They didn't ask - and I find that just absolutely classless. Dickless wonders. Want to be admired for being men without the bother of acting like one. Absolutely no class whatsoever. Not a drop.

    Dan - that's one of the reasons I was really, really surprised nobody offered to help. Some of those rigs those guys were driving....I know they had fix kits in them. So here I am bouncing on the crossbar trying to loosen those nuts. I had a flat out in the boonies once when I was out agate hunting and it took me two freaking hours to change it because I couldn't get the lug nuts loose. I'm thinking of getting something that will run without electric that will take those things off to take with me on hunts. That's my only real problem with changing tires. I always have a spare. Always fix a flat. Until recently, an air compresser. But I can't always get those darned lug nuts to come loose.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - I don't need advice. I know how to change a tire. I also don't really care what these guys thought their excuses were for not asking if I needed help. They didn't ask - and I find that just absolutely classless. Dickless wonders. Want to be admired for being men without the bother of acting like one. Absolutely no class whatsoever. Not a drop.
      I NEVER said you DIDN'T know how to change a tire! HECK, I do, and I had problems! The problem I had, and the solution, had NOTHING to do with knowledge, or even strength! The person that helped me was strong, and HE had trouble! As for class? Chivalry is PART of it, and helping people is part of that, but it isn't the WHOLE!

      Dan - that's one of the reasons I was really, really surprised nobody offered to help. Some of those rigs those guys were driving....I know they had fix kits in them. So here I am bouncing on the crossbar trying to loosen those nuts. I had a flat out in the boonies once when I was out agate hunting and it took me two freaking hours to change it because I couldn't get the lug nuts loose. I'm thinking of getting something that will run without electric that will take those things off to take with me on hunts. That's my only real problem with changing tires. I always have a spare. Always fix a flat. Until recently, an air compresser. But I can't always get those darned lug nuts to come loose.
      OK, so ******NOW****** you are saying my advice WAS good! SEEEEEEEE YOU had the SAME problem! And YEAH, if you don't mind possible noise, and the need for power, go with YOUR option.

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - I don't need advice. I know how to change a tire. I also don't really care what these guys thought their excuses were for not asking if I needed help. They didn't ask - and I find that just absolutely classless. Dickless wonders. Want to be admired for being men without the bother of acting like one. Absolutely no class whatsoever. Not a drop.

      Dan - that's one of the reasons I was really, really surprised nobody offered to help. Some of those rigs those guys were driving....I know they had fix kits in them. So here I am bouncing on the crossbar trying to loosen those nuts. I had a flat out in the boonies once when I was out agate hunting and it took me two freaking hours to change it because I couldn't get the lug nuts loose. I'm thinking of getting something that will run without electric that will take those things off to take with me on hunts. That's my only real problem with changing tires. I always have a spare. Always fix a flat. Until recently, an air compresser. But I can't always get those darned lug nuts to come loose.
      Same here. I know how to change a flat tire, I've done it before, but the problem these days is I can't loosen the lug nuts, at all. But fortunately, I've always been helped. Even by guys that were so sweaty, they stunk to high heaven, lol! But I thanked them just the same.

      Ha! I just remembered one flat tire incident I had when I was a teenager. We lived on a private dirt road on Mill Lake. I got halfway up it towards Baldwin Rd. when I got a flat. I was just going to the corner store with my little brother to get some late night munchies. We could have walked, but where's the fun in that when you now can drive, right? It's better than getting ate up by mosquitoes, haha!

      Anyway, we walked and when we got to the party store at the end of the road, my brother showed me a car that had broken down and was just sitting there. He suggested that I go and take one of its tires, exchange it with my flat, and put the flat tire on that car. (He was always getting me in trouble, lol)

      So I walked over to the abandoned car, took the tire off it and walked back to my car and leaned the new tire against it. I then took the flat off of my car and carried it back to the abandoned car and tried to put it on. Problem! It was the wrong size, the holes didn't line up! Grrr!

      I took the flat tire back to my car and put it back on. I then took the, er, borrowed tire back to the abandoned car and proceeded to put it back on. Then I hear a car slowing down and look up. Oh oh! It was a police car! I looked around and my brother was nowhere to be seen! Brat!

      The police officer asked if I needed some help. I answered him, no thank you, I've just about got it. Then he asked me if this was my car. Gulp! I was always taught to respect the police and since my dad was president of the Lake Orion Jaycees, I actually knew a lot of them. I could not tell a lie.

      I told him no, it wasn't. He then asked me if I was trying to steal the tire from off the car. I replied, no sir! I'm trying to put it back on! He looked at me suspiciously so I had to explain the whole thing to him. When I was finished, he was laughing.

      He said, "Well, I'll give you honesty and the fact that you took the time to put it back says a lot about your character. Most, a-hem, thieves would not do that. Tell you what, if you have learned your lesson and promise never to try and steal again, I won't tell your dad!"

      He knew me, but I didn't recognize him at all, still don't know which officer that was. He stayed there until I finished the job, walked me back to my car, looked at my tire and told me I would be fine seeing as how I just lived 5 houses down. Yikes!!

      I learned my lesson, I really did! But I didn't cover for my brother's trouble making antics with my dad like I used to, for a whole month!! LOL!


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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - I don't need advice. I know how to change a tire. I also don't really care what these guys thought their excuses were for not asking if I needed help. They didn't ask - and I find that just absolutely classless. Dickless wonders. Want to be admired for being men without the bother of acting like one. Absolutely no class whatsoever. Not a drop.
      I feel for you but verbally calling everyone of those guys dickless wonders really does no good.

      You seem to be making judgement calls against people who you know NOTHING about. Only thing you know about them is that they have a sack of testicles between their legs. And that is how you are judging them which is shallow

      Having preconceived notions of what a man should or shouldn't be has got our Society in the 'shitter.' And actually gotten people murdered

      I guess if those guys were transgender, gay, or just a little ' light in the loafers' it means they were less than satisfactory human beings because they didn't have the 'balls' to get out and help you ?

      I remember, last fall shopping for clothes for my 4 year old daughter. My wife was out of town and we had to get a particular kind of dress for her in girl's section. I was clueless and it showed as I was running around the section like a turkey with its head cut off.

      There was at least 5 moms in there and they assisted me with zilch.

      I guess I could say they were classless bitches and needed to be real women and help a dad out in stress

      But I realize they had their own problems and I did knot know them or what they may be going through in their own lives so I reserved judgement
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        I guess I could say they were classless bitches and needed to be real women and help a dad out in stress.
        I believe the proper term would be, 'titless bitches.'

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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          I believe the proper term would be, 'titless bitches.'

          Cheers. - Frank
          Or 'vagina-less wonders'
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Or 'vaginaless wonders'
            Ditto on what I just asked Frank.

            Now, Robert, you're getting a little raunchy, eh?


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            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Or 'vaginaless wonders'
            That does not roll off the tongue.

            Cheers.

            P.S. Don't go there!
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          I believe the proper term would be, 'titless bitches.'

          Cheers. - Frank
          Wouldn't that make them a he/she then?


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            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Wouldn't that make them a he/she then? Terra
            The scientific term for that is 'shim.'

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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              The scientific term for that is 'shim.'

              Cheers. - Frank
              How do you know?


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                Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                How do you know? Terra
                Because I am the AMOL.

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                • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                  Because I am the AMOL.

                  Cheers. - Frank
                  What's an AMOL?


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                    Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                    What's an AMOL? Terra
                    Answer Man of Life.

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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        I feel for you but verbally calling everyone of those guys dickless wonders really does no good.

        You seem to be making judgement calls against people who you now NOTHING about. Only thing you now about them is that they have a pair of testicles between their legs. And that is how you are judging them which is shallow

        I remember, last fall shopping for clothes for my 4 year old daughter. My wife was out of town and we had to get a particular kind of dress for her in girl's section. I was clueless and it showed as I was running around the section like a turkey with its head cut off.

        There was at least 5 moms in there and they assisted me with zilch.

        I guess I could say they were classless bitches and needed to be real women and help a dad out in stress

        But I realize they had their own problems and I did not now them or what they may be going through in their own lives
        OK...2 beers.

        Personally, I never expect anyone to help, when I have car trouble. I'm always amazed when someone stops to help. AAA and a cell phone are my friend.

        Would I have stopped to help a stranger..male or female? Maybe. Maybe not. Most likely, I'd ask if they needed to call AAA, and they could use my phone,. or call to get a ride.

        No offense, but changing a tire for someone is real work. It's almost like saying, "I was digging a ditch in my front yard, and lots of guys drove by...and none stopped to offer to dig the ditch for me".
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          OK...2 beers.

          Personally, I never expect anyone to help, when I have car trouble. I'm always amazed when someone stops to help. AAA and a cell phone are my friend.

          Would I have stopped to help a stranger..male or female? Maybe. Maybe not. Most likely, I'd ask if they needed to call AAA, and they could use my phone,. or call to get a ride.

          No offense, but changing a tire for someone is real work. It's almost like saying, "I was digging a ditch in my front yard, and lots of guys drove by...and none stopped to offer to dig the ditch for me".

          No it's not! I'd change a tire, all 4 even, before I'd dig a ditch!!

          Claude honey? When's the last time you changed a tire? Or should I ask when's the last time you dug a ditch?

          Seriously?


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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            No it's not! I'd change a tire, all 4 even, before I'd dig a ditch!!

            Claude honey? When's the last time you changed a tire? Or should I ask when's the last time you dug a ditch?

            Seriously?


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          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          AAA and a cell phone are my friend.
          And yet - people say you have no friends. :-) There's two, right there!

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          • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            And yet - people say you have no friends. :-) There's two, right there!

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

              Claude has to pay to have friends?
              No. It's that Frank asked to be my friend...and I told him I would charge him.

              Now, he thinks everyone pays.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                No. It's that Frank asked to be my friend...and I told him I would charge him.

                Now, he thinks everyone pays.
                If they're friends of yours, sooner or later - - - - - - they'll pay. :-)

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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

              Claude has to pay to have friends?
              Did you mean to end that sentence with a question mark?
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              • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Did you mean to end that sentence with a question mark?
                Well, yes, I did. I just never heard of it happening to anyone before Claude.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

                  Well, yes, I did. I just never heard of it happening to anyone before Claude.
                  There are a lot of things Claude has to pay for. Friendship is just one of them.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                    There are a lot of things Claude has to pay for. Friendship is just one of them.
                    One thing Riffle hates to hear, "Do you have change for a hundred?"

                    He says, "Why didn't you ask earlier? My money is in my pants. I'll get them"
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                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      Wouldn't that make them a he/she then?


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                      The scientific term for that is 'shim.'

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                      Out here in the West, we call them Claude.
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                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      One thing Riffle hates to hear, "Do you have change for a hundred?"

                      He says, "Why didn't you ask earlier? My money is in my pants. I'll get them"
                      When I asked for change for a hundred he said, "How about I keep the hundred and give you a chit card good for 100 sessions?"

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                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Did you mean to end that sentence with a question mark?
                Sorry, were you talking to me?
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  No. It's that Frank asked to be my friend...and I told him I would charge him.

                  Now, he thinks everyone pays.

                  But the difference is Claude, always goes for the extra gig!

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            • Profile picture of the author Cali16
              Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

              Claude has to pay to have friends?
              That surprises you?

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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

              Claude has to pay to have friends?
              He kinda does. He has to keep a dermatologist on retainer to remove all the unsightly circles he gets where people keep touching him with 10 ft poles.
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                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                He kinda does. He has to keep a dermatologist on retainer to remove all the unsightly circles he gets where people keep touching him with 10 ft poles.
                I don't know of anyone who would touch Claude with a 10 foot pole.

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                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                  I don't know of anyone who would touch Claude with a 10 foot pole.

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                    Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                    A biker spit on his shoe once.
                    Yeah, from a distance of 11 feet.

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            • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
              Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

              Claude has to pay to have friends?
              There's no shame paying to have friends. What is supremely embarrassing is when people politely decline the offer and walk away. I just stopped offering and accepted my lot in life.

              Sal, for what it's worth I've changed a flat tire for a woman. She was a stranger and I stopped and asked if I could help.

              About a month ago I offered to help a woman who was trying to take a large-screen TV to her car. She had it on a shopping cart and it was slipping and sliding. I pushed it to her car and put it in the back seat. She was grateful and kept saying 'thank you so much.'

              Helpful mechanical tips for those who struggle breaking loose the tire lug nuts.

              Carry a can of Liquid Wrench and spray the nut and let it soak for a minute. Try to spray into the thread hole. So that means hold the tiny straw at the base of the lug nut head where it meets the hole.

              A weaker person can benefit from using leverage. I believe you can buy what's basically a handle extender that slides onto the lug wrench, thus lengthening the handle and giving you more mechanical advantage. It works very well.

              Also, don't forget to tighten the nuts according to the star pattern for torqueing bolts arranged in a circular pattern. But you probably know that already.

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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

                Also, don't forget to tighten the nuts.
                Not a worry. Most of the gals here have that covered - no problemo.

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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          OK...2 beers.

          Personally, I never expect anyone to help, when I have car trouble. I'm always amazed when someone stops to help. AAA and a cell phone are my friend.

          Would I have stopped to help a stranger..male or female? Maybe. Maybe not. Most likely, I'd ask if they needed to call AAA, and they could use my phone,. or call to get a ride.

          No offense, but changing a tire for someone is real work. It's almost like saying, "I was digging a ditch in my front yard, and lots of guys drove by...and none stopped to offer to dig the ditch for me".
          I know its different me being a man but I would never expect anyone would stop.

          Though if my Mom had a blowout I sure would want someone to help out.

          She is 80 and it would really bother me especially since she has no cell phone
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            I know its different me being a man but I would never expect anyone would stop.

            Though if my Mom had a blowout I sure would want someone to help out.

            She is 80 and it would really bother me especially since she has no cell phone
            OK, I'm not a softie by any means...

            But an 80 year old woman? Even anyone that looks older than I am? I'd stop. I'd stop for an older person, way before I'd stop for a young girl.
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              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              I'd stomp on an older person, to get before a young girl.
              All better!

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        I feel for you but verbally calling everyone of those guys dickless wonders really does no good.

        You seem to be making judgement calls against people who you know NOTHING about. Only thing you know about them is that they have a sack of testicles between their legs. And that is how you are judging them which is shallow

        Having preconceived notions of what a man should or shouldn't be has got our Society in the 'shitter.' And actually gotten people murdered

        I guess if those guys were transgender, gay, or just a little ' light in the loafers' it means they were less than satisfactory human beings because they didn't have the 'balls' to get out and help you ?

        I remember, last fall shopping for clothes for my 4 year old daughter. My wife was out of town and we had to get a particular kind of dress for her in girl's section. I was clueless and it showed as I was running around the section like a turkey with its head cut off.

        There was at least 5 moms in there and they assisted me with zilch.

        I guess I could say they were classless bitches and needed to be real women and help a dad out in stress

        But I realize they had their own problems and I did knot know them or what they may be going through in their own lives so I reserved judgement
        When someone with upper body strength can't stop to help someone 100 lbs soaking wet do something that requires some strength - I'm sorry if you don't like it - but I think of them as crap for humans. This was in the middle of the night and basically the middle of nowhere and I'm a senior citizen.

        Sorry if you don't like my judgement, but that's exactly what I thought of each as they went by. I don't care if I know them or not. I know what neighborly is. I know what protective is. I know what worthless is.

        For you compare shopping without your wife to someone stranded in the middle of nowhere with car trouble in the middle of the night is just ridiculous. Transgender also has nothing to do with a damned thing.

        I'm not a huge hulking guy that can practically carry the damned car - but I at least have enough humanity left in me to make sure someone in such a predicament is okay before just turning and ignoring them. I'm sorry - that's a crap way to be and you can't say a damned thing that will make me feel harsh for saying so. I expect people to act with decency, and when they don't, I don't give a **** who thinks I judge them too harshly.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    So, here's a partial list:

    Carry a penetrating oil like Blaster or WD-40 to help loosen the bolts

    Insist that every mechanic/tire shop use a torque wrench to set the bolts to the correct
    pounds of torque

    Carry a better tire iron - kind of awkward, but also you can get a steel pipe that
    fits over the tire iron to extend the handle and give you more leverage

    Carry fix-a-flat

    Flashlight

    jack

    Spare tire and remember to check the air pressure from time to time

    Air Compressor that can be plugged into the cig lighter (or power port as they call them now)
    $10 and up at Wal-Mart or auto parts stores

    Stiff wire as Gail mentioned

    Spare key you carry on you at all times

    $20

    Clothing, jackets, food, candles, sleeping bag in case you get stranded

    Jumper Box if you can afford a quality one

    Jumper cables
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      that was a lousy experience to have, Sal. I would have felt the same outrage.

      I really appreciate good manners - I always make a point of thanking anyone who opens a door for me, etc. It's just the right thing to do. But then again good manners was very much a part of my upbringing and I passed that down to my son
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm out of thanks.

    Karen - that's my outrage here is that people just aren't nice to each other any more. I realize I could have walked into the casino and asked if the maintenance crew could help - they might have. I had a cell phone with me if I'd been in real trouble. However - the number of men that just literally passed me by without even asking if I needed help was startling. Not one out of over a dozen? Not one? Some of them even saw I was having trouble with lug nuts. Do they now only stop if you're drop dead gorgeous and scantily clad?

    As far as emergency supplies, I don't have all of them, but I have enough to get me through. Need to restock some, though. I can't imagine anyone getting on the road without a few of them --- at least a jack and spare tire. When you live in mountainous country you never know if you have cell phone reception or not. It is a good tool, but people who bank their safety on a cell phone are crazy or stupid.

    I had been on a rock hunt and it's way wet out here. You get into a mud puddle out here an your rig sinks. The other truck sunk out while we were out and my jeep isn't set up for any type of wenching/pulling - plus the front of his truck is probably 10,000 pounds - too heavy to jack up with normal equip. So --- we all had cell phones. I had to drive around 10 miles to be able to pick up any reception so his wife could call into town for their "emergency squad" to come pull him out.

    And that's one thing all of us rockhounds have is a couple of emergency contacts that will come and rescue us no matter where we are. I have several in several states. I also had a friend right down the road I'd just come from seeing that I could have called if I'd been in a situation I couldn't fix myself. For anyone who drives back country - or just long distances at all should have a life line like that, too. It's part of the emergency kit - especially if you're not rich. It would have cost nearly a thousand bucks for a tow truck if he'd had to call one from where we were.

    Now I have to go post my trip report and the pics of John's rig stuck in the mud this on my website, LOL. 2 down in one day - and people driving out to bumfukarobea to help one and people walking and driving by the other without even as much as a how dya do.
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    Emergency supplies for women (keep in trunk of car)

    Flashlight
    One of those nut wrench things with long handle
    Jack (and John and Phil and David)
    Fix a Flat (several cans)
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Emergency supplies for women (keep in trunk of car)

      Flashlight
      One of those nut wrench things with long handle
      Jack (and John and Phil and David)
      Fix a Flat (several cans)
      Mini skirt
      Fish net stockings
      What - no condoms?

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Emergency supplies for women (keep in trunk of car)

      Flashlight
      One of those nut wrench things with long handle
      Jack (and John and Phil and David)
      Fix a Flat (several cans)
      Mini skirt
      Fish net stockings
      You for got the spiked high heels to wear over those fishnet stockings. Slip-ons or sneakers just couldn't pull it off and flip flops would just look ridiculous, lol!


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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        You for got the spiked high heels to wear over those fishnet stockings. Slip-ons or sneakers just couldn't pull it off and flip flops would just look ridiculous, lol! Terra
        I don't know about that. I have never received so much as a single complaint.

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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          I don't know about that. I have never received so much as a single complaint.

          Cheers. - Frank
          Ewwww!

          I just got a mental image of hairy legs under fishnet stockings under flip flops!

          Make it go away!!!

          Haha!


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            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Ewwww! I just got a mental image of hairy legs under fishnet stockings under flip flops! Make it go away!!! Haha! Terra
            Nope. Many years ago I shaved my legs for an Off-Broadway scene night for casting directors. We did a scene from, "Some Like It Hot."

            Never grew back. True story. I have the legs of a goddess. lol

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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              Nope. Many years ago I shaved my legs for an Off-Broadway scene night for casting directors. We did a scene from, "Some Like It Hot."

              Never grew back. True story. I have the legs of a goddess. lol

              Cheers. - Frank

              I can't think of a thing to say to that. Probably because I'm laughing too hard!


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              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              I have the legs of a goddess. lol

              Cheers. - Frank
              I just threw up in my mouth.
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                I just threw up in my mouth.
                Does envy usually have that effect on you?

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                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                I just threw up in my mouth.
                Was it out of self disgust, because the thought aroused you?
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                  I just threw up in my mouth.

                  Was it out of self disgust, because the thought aroused you?

                  I think he just loves home cooking.

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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                I just threw up in my mouth.
                Surprised that doesn't happen a lot. After all, you're friends with a running gag.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  Surprised that doesn't happen a lot. After all, you're friends with a running gag.
                  "Running gag" was my porn name.


                  Dearest Sal;

                  First of all, pretty darn funny.
                  Second of all, pretty darn accurate.

                  Although I always thought of myself as a "Running worn comedic premise".

                  It's a matter of pride.
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    "Running gag" was my porn name.


                    Dearest Sal;

                    First of all, pretty darn funny.
                    Second of all, pretty darn accurate.

                    Although I always thought of myself as a "Running worn comedic premise".

                    It's a matter of pride.
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                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                      Claude Trivia - Since necessity is the mother of invention, Claude's penis was the reason that measurement in pixels was invented.
                      Fixed!

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                      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                        Fixed!

                        Cheers. - Frank
                        Yuck, Frank!


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                          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                          Yuck, Frank!


                          Terra
                          What - you have a problem with the word, 'pixel?'

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                            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                            What - you have a problem with the word, 'pixel?'

                            Cheers. - Frank

                            Why yes, yes I do as a matter of fact.

                            The word pixel reminds me of the word pixie. When I was little, pixie was the style of a hair cut, a very short haircut. My mom got me one because I fussed so much while she was trying to brush the tangles out of my hair.

                            My little brother had longer hair than I did, and when we went out, people thought I was a little boy!!


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                              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                              little pixie.
                              Nickname for Claude's penis.

                              Cheers. - Frank
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                              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                                Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                                Nickname for Claude's penis.

                                Cheers. - Frank

                                Frank! There are no words!!

                                Wait! There is one...

                                BEHAVE! lol!

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                                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                                  Frank! There are no words!!

                                  Wait! There is one...

                                  BEHAVE! lol!

                                  Terra
                                  I am behaving. I used the word penis as opposed to any of my extensive alternate terms for a winky-dinky!

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                                    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                                    I am behaving. I used the word penis as opposed to any of my extensive alternate terms for a winky-dinky!

                                    Cheers. - Frank

                                    Sometimes you are a lost cause, you know that?

                                    And at others, a real stand up guy...just pick one, wouldja?


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                                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                                      Sometimes you are a lost cause, you know that? Terra
                                      Proudly, noted!

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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                                    I am behaving. I used the word penis as opposed to any of my extensive alternate terms for a winky-dinky!

                                    Cheers. - Frank
                                    Now l think that WC is suffering?

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              Nope. Many years ago I shaved my legs for an Off-Broadway scene night for casting directors. We did a scene from, "Some Like It Hot."

              Never grew back. True story. I have the legs of a goddess. lol

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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Medusa was a goddess.
                Until she looked at you and was turned to stone.

                Will you NEVER learn? lol

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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        You for got the spiked high heels to wear over those fishnet stockings. Slip-ons or sneakers just couldn't pull it off and flip flops would just look ridiculous, lol!


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        With the right miniskirt and fishnet stockings, I don't think I'd even notice what kind of shoes she had on...
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          Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

          With the right miniskirt and fishnet stockings, I don't think I'd even notice what kind of shoes she had on...
          Most men wouldn't even notice if she has feet.

          I was married for 6 years, before I even knew my wife spoke English.




          Nobody helped me change my tire on my car.

          First World Problems.
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Most men wouldn't even notice if she has feet.

            I was married for 6 years, before I even knew my wife spoke English.




            Nobody helped me change my tire on my car.

            First World Problems.
            6 years? Long time for her to be in shock.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Most men wouldn't even notice if she has feet.

            I was married for 6 years, before I even knew my wife spoke English.




            Nobody helped me change my tire on my car.

            First World Problems.
            Why do people seem to be missing the point?

            The point is that people don't even offer to help someone anymore. Late at night - senior, small - not much physical strength - yet nobody had enough decency to even check to see if I was okay. That's the point. No more decency - no more neighborly good will. Signs of society in decay. A strong one.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              WC is seriously suffering, l hope everybody on this thread realizes that!

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                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                WC is seriously suffering, l hope everybody on this thread releases that!

                Give it a rest.
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                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                WC is seriously suffering, l hope everybody on this thread releases that!
                Thanks for brightening my day.

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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  Carry a can of Liquid Wrench and spray the nut and let it soak for a minute.
                  To some, that is "being prepared"...to me, it's like "asking for trouble".

                  I thought jumping on the tire iron to loosen the nuts WAS 'leverage'.
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              Signs of society in decay. A strong one.
              Well, at least you're keeping the hyperbole to an absolute minimum. :-)

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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Why do people seem to be missing the point?

              The point is that people don't even offer to help someone anymore. Late at night - senior, small - not much physical strength - yet nobody had enough decency to even check to see if I was okay. That's the point. No more decency - no more neighborly good will. Signs of society in decay. A strong one.
              Personally, I don't want strangers stopping to help with a flat late at night. I don't trust them. There are plenty of stories of women being kidnapped, raped and murdered because they were stranded by a disabled vehicle late at night.

              I'd rather call a friend, go get help in the casino from staff, call the police and get a ride, or call triple A.

              It's also been mentioned that the old damsel in distress, complete with her thug hiding in the bushes to rob or kill or hijack the car are possibilities that anyone thinking about stopping should consider.
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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                Personally, I don't want strangers stopping to help with a flat late at night. I don't trust them. There are plenty of stories of women being kidnapped, raped and murdered because they were stranded by a disabled vehicle late at night.

                I'd rather call a friend, go get help in the casino from staff, call the police and get a ride, or call triple A.

                It's also been mentioned that the old damsel in distress, complete with her thug hiding in the bushes to rob or kill or hijack the car are possibilities that anyone thinking about stopping should consider.
                I wasn't about to call a friend out at that time of night - and really didn't need the help. As far as being attacked. I don't scare easily and I refuse to live my life in fear. That's why you are always armed, trained, and dangerous yourself. So you aren't a shut in to make sure the bad boogy men don't get you. I just thought it would have been nice for someone to at least show a little decency. Frankly all the reasons that people have here for not being nice to each other kinda disgust me. All the tips on being prepared are pretty useful for everyone, though. I'd have never known you could do any good by spraying the lug nuts. Just put a can of WD40 in the rig today. I change a LOT of tires and it's usually where there's nobody out there to ignore me.
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                • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  I don't scare easily and I refuse to live my life in fear. That's why you are always armed, trained, and dangerous yourself.
                  I don't live my life in fear either and I don't take unnecessary risks, like helping people in the middle of the night who might be armed, trained and dangerous, or by relying on strangers for assistance who may be armed, trained and dangerous.

                  I don't pack heat and have no desire to do so. To me, that is the exact description of living in fear.
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                  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    I don't live my life in fear either and I don't take unnecessary risks, like helping people in the middle of the night who might be armed, trained and dangerous, or by relying on strangers for assistance who may be armed, trained and dangerous.

                    I don't pack heat and have no desire to do so. To me, that is the exact description of living in fear.
                    That's where you and I differ. I'm out there all the time and arms are just another preparedness tool.

                    You have to weigh the "risks" you are taking, definitely. I agree with that. Of course, when you're in the situation I was in, anyone could have driven up and done any damage they wanted without asking if I needed help as a fake first. It's stupid to be out in the middle of nowhere at night without some sort of protective apparatus just in case. I'm out in the middle of nowhere a lot. I'm actually more careful and ready if I go with someone else - for all I know they posted where we are going somewhere online. That to me is also a risk that doesn't need to be taken. People can find out where I went once I get home.

                    When I stop to help someone myself, I really assess the situation first, and there are times I've had the doors locked and just rolled down the window enough to ask if someone was okay. I've offered to phone for help if they needed a few times because I wasn't sure about them. Sometimes my gut says not to stop and I never do in those cases. Being right outside of a casino, I would think, would preclude much of the risk either way that might have been inherent down the road a ways where there was no light, no people living in the area.
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    The goddess called, and she would like her legs back.
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    Ken - deeds like that should be normal occurrences. It's called "decency". I was surprised as hell not one person asked if I needed help. It was surreal. I've always at least asked someone who seems to maybe need some - I thought most people still did. Obviously not.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    As per Big Frank's post... Unfortunately, stopping to help a damsel in a seedy area... like a casino... could result in another person jumping out and bopping you on the head and (both of them) stealing your car, these days, while you are changing the tire... if not worse. It's a shame, but not on any individual; rather, on society as a whole.


    That is my opinion, anyway.


    50/50 as to whether I would have stopped.
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      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      As per Big Frank's post... Unfortunately, stopping to help a damsel in a seedy area... like a casino... could result in another person jumping out and bopping you on the head and (both of them) stealing your car, these days, while you are changing the tire... if not worse. It's a shame, but not on any individual; rather, on society as a whole.


      That is my opinion, anyway.


      50/50 as to whether I would have stopped.
      This is an excellent point and one I didn't even think about. Casinos are notorious for ploys and scams. I wouldn't be surprised if many of these guys may have heard of a scam where a damsel in distress was part of a sinister plot to lure people in under the guise of a flat tire and then rob them with some male counterparts hidden off to the side.

      If I was in Casino area I might think twice about it
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    I witnessed young able-bodied people on the subway not giving up seats designated for elderly or disabled people for a blind woman and her guide dog. I don't usually like to make a scene in public, but I was so enraged by that, I started shouting at people to give up a seat and someone finally did. I could swear the guide dog actually gave me an approving nod.
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      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      I witnessed young able-bodied people on the subway not giving up seats designated for elderly or disabled people for a blind woman and her guide dog. .
      As many OTers shake their head in disgust over people not giving their sit up to that poor little...
      guide dog.

      The nerve of some people
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    After reading this thread, I think I would scan for places for the bad guys to hide, roll up with my doors locked, roll the window down and ask if she wanted my help. Then I would ask if she had somebody hiding who was going to knock me out - see if it gets a laugh, or a you found me out look.
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