Raising Daughters? Some things to think about.

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25 Things Dads Are Hardly Told To Do For Their Daughters, But Should
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    #1 is true of daughters AND sons! Of course CHILD in both cases!
    #2 Okay for daughters, but not sons, as far as I am concerned. Still, girls DO naturally tend to be drawn to more feminine things, and boys to more physical things. You see that even in babies. But females HAVE excelled at things that they generally aren't pushed to, and some males have excelled at things that, at least in my generation, weren't seen as so masculine. Take cooking, for example. Outside of camping, roughing it, and barbque, bachelors, and the galloping gourmet, Graham Kerr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I never saw a man cook, yet even THEN there were a lot of male cooks. And today maybe 60% of the cooks, on TV, are MALE!
    #3 is true of daughters AND sons!
    #4 Hopefully, this is how MOST are today! Even in Leave it to beaver, the couples showed respect for one another.
    #5 That is a generalization. I think all should know that there is a time to play even when you have no hand!
    #6 Doesn't this kind of come with everything else?
    #7 Watch for the contradiction here! Of course this should be true for daughters AND sons!
    #8 Watch for the twist! But this should be true for daughters AND sons!
    #9 Should be true for both.
    #10 Again, doesn't this come with everything else?
    #11 Doesn't every caring parent do so?
    #12 Has any man truly told a female to stop acting feminine? Trust me, we appreciate it even if we don't understand it.
    #13 So if a daughter asked you some question in a feminine way you should just insist she won't hear it from you? Some things may be answered in different ways, and may be appreciated better that way.
    I think she is aluding to an idea about misogynistic things, etc... Hopefully not many daughters hear such things.
    #14 OK, this kind of contradicts what was requested in #13! You can't have it both ways!
    #15 WHY would ANYONE talk with either their son or daughter about such things with disgust?
    #16 OK, this is similar to #15!
    #17 Well, if I had a daughter, I would certainly bring up people like Margaret thatcher, Angela Merkel, and Marie Curie. ALL were strong women that changed the world for the better and took risks and, though their opposition may have hated them, they are respected to this day. And they are NOT respected because they are women, or were first, or because they were famous or powerful.
    #18 AGAIN, isn't this generally done? Even on leave it to beaver.....
    #19 OK, this contradicts #1, #7 and 14, as well as another! The child should APPRECIATE your having their back!
    #20 Yeah, nobody that merely believes should even bother having kids! Support those that are oppressed, and expose the rest.
    #21 If ONLY that were true. STILL, the above 20 points will effectively lead by example!
    #22 It can get WORSE, and that is the reason for #19! The FLIP side of #19 is that you ARE there to support them!
    #23 It IS implied by #19, and others.
    #24 When deserved, CERTAINLY! If you congratulate a child for getting a 60% on a test, it can amount to an insult. The same is true ELSEWHERE!
    #25 Again, kind of repeated elsewhere.

    Outside of being a TAD too liberal, and talking about girls as if they should get more than boys do, it is generally good advice.

    BTW I mention leave it to beaver simply because it is an old well known sitcom that tried to give a pretty fair glimpse at what life was like back then. Women were mostly left to the home to take care of domestic chores and the kids, and had their roles, but weren't demeaned by it. I don't think they ever said even one word against women on the show. GRANTED, there was eddie who was obnoxious, etc... and HE might have said some bad things but, if he did, he was ridiculed for it.

    To give you a taste of what he was like, HERE it is!

    http://youtu.be/TYcqPbpRX9I?t=14

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Women were mostly left to the home to take care of domestic chores
      Those were the good ol' days. (sniff).

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe J
    A friend told me he heard someone say they set up an IRA fund when his daughters get married.

    He said if things went bad that it was their I'm Running Away money.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I think that a daughter is best off thinking for herself and neither needing nor expecting perfection from her father. A good concept is, "If daddy can be full of it, so can any other man. Think for yourself. Be self-dependent." People become vulnerable to cults because of believing an authority figure is some kind of god.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm just finishing up my daughter's 3rd year in high school with her going without a boyfriend.

    She told me that after witnessing all the trouble and heartbreak she's seen and heard of other female classmates going through, she understands our decision and its not a major problem for her.

    One of my sisters had a daughter who's already done it and she turned out alright.

    One more year to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      I was the youngest of 5 boys with no sisters.

      I have two daughters. All my brothers have sons.

      So go figure

      I must admit that having daughters has really given me a new perspective on Life that my brothers just do not have.

      Much more attuned to others' plights and way more empathetic towards women and their struggles.


      My mom was telling me the other day how blessed I was to have daughters because when I get older she says they are so much more attentive and empathetic and have that female 'touch' when dealing with their parents old age and the needs they will require going thru this stage ( more so than sons on the whole )


      So I guess it is a little poetic justice from all the headaches that I know I will go thru when they turn 16
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        My mom was telling me the other day how blessed I was to have daughters because when I get older she says they are so much more attentive and empathetic and have that female 'touch' when dealing with their parents old age and the needs they will require going thru this stage ( more so than sons on the whole )
        OOOPS! You can't say that! It's SEXIST!

        Just kind of kidding, since so many feminists claim that such behavior is TAUGHT/LEARNED, and not innate. THEY insist that society STOP teaching women to be like this, even though it is the same all over the world.

        AND, as I have said so many times, there ARE some women in high places that I respect more than any man that has vied for such a spot in recent memory. Look at angela merkel! People hated her, and tried to get her boosted out, and she was RE-ELECTED again!

        Would I have originally voted for her when she first ran? NOPE! WHY? Because she was born in, and brought up in, a fascist/communist country(EAST GERMANY). I would expect that she would be likely to follow some of THEIR ways, and hurt Germany. But she has ESCHEWED all their behaviors, and has done the opposite and made germany like an oasis from the 2008 debacle. But I would have said the same about any MAN there. NOW, she has a history, so we know how SHE is, And I would just keep voting for her as long as she keeps doing things the same way!

        Angela Merkel has been described as the de facto leader of the European Union,[5][6][7][8] and was ranked as the world's second most powerful person by Forbes magazine in 2013, the highest ranking ever achieved by a woman; she is now ranked fifth.[9][10] On 26 March 2014, she became the longest-serving incumbent head of government in the European Union. In May 2014 and 2015, she was named the most powerful woman in the world, also by Forbes.[11]
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I'm just finishing up my daughter's 3rd year in high school with her going without a boyfriend.

      She told me that after witnessing all the trouble and heartbreak she's seen and heard of other female classmates going through, she understands our decision and its not a major problem for her.

      One of my sisters had a daughter who's already done it and she turned out alright.

      One more year to go.
      My oldest daughter, who was valedictorian of her class, did the same thing. However, with her, it was her own choice.

      While her younger sister was going through boyfriends every 3 weeks or so, like it was a sport, my oldest said, "I'm concentrating on my studies and I do not need some stupid immature boy to distract me from that. How can anyone study when they're struck with puppy love or feel their life is over after getting their heart stomped into the ground?"

      We admired her for that and it sounds like your daughter is on the right track.

      I hate to say this, but it's true and sort of funny, so I will.

      On a side note, my youngest daughter said to her big sister, upon hearing those words."It doesn't have to be that way if you do the heartbreaking!"

      Terra
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
        Terra,

        I hate to say this, but it's true and sort of funny, so I will.

        On a side note, my youngest daughter said to her big sister, upon hearing those words."It doesn't have to be that way if you do the heartbreaking!"
        Now that is funny and I loved it.

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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

          Terra,



          Now that is funny and I loved it.

          Ken

          True, it is funny, but this daughter did not make valedictorian or even salutatorian and I hate to say this too...

          But she did rank in the top 5 of her class though.

          Go figure, lol!


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    My dad taught me survival skills. Changing tires and oil, how to find my way when lost, how to use a jackknife, build a fire, find food, etc. He taught me how to fight and watch my surroundings for danger. He taught me to shoot a gun.
    He taught me to be physically fit and to face situations with reasoning. I've had daddy issues because he seemed to think I never did anything right and always harped on what I did. Yet - when I was stranded for 4 days and he was called and told I was missing in the Mts in winter - he wasn't worried. He just said to have me call him when I got back to town. He knew I could get there and would. So........

    I don't think there's a perfect parent out there. We just have to be glad that there's so many that really and seriously try.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've had daddy issues because he seemed to think I never did anything right and always harped on what I did. Yet - when I was stranded for 4 days and he was called and told I was missing in the Mts in winter - he wasn't worried. He just said to have me call him when I got back to town. He knew I could get there and would. So......
      If you were male, he would likely have felt the same. It is better for him to make you think you were inadequate, so you wouldn't be cocky, and would try harder, than to make you think you were up to ANYTHING. Disney came out with a DCOM a few months ago, IIRC, and the female protagonist found out people were laughing behind her back, after her father bribed all to make her look great. At one point she says to her father something like.... "YOOOOOU KNEEEWWWWWW, And didn't tell me!?!?!?!? Why didn't you tell me? I would have tried HARRDER!". In the end, it looked like people destroyed her nascent career, she tries harder, and they are in shock because she WON, and her father apologized.".

      So be happy your father was a bit hard.

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      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        If you were male, he would likely have felt the same. It is better for him to make you think you were inadequate, so you wouldn't be cocky, and would try harder, than to make you think you were up to ANYTHING. Disney came out with a DCOM a few months ago, IIRC, and the female protagonist found out people were laughing behind her back, after her father bribed all to make her look great. At one point she says to her father something like.... "YOOOOOU KNEEEWWWWWW, And didn't tell me!?!?!?!? Why didn't you tell me? I would have tried HARRDER!". In the end, it looked like people destroyed her nascent career, she tries harder, and they are in shock because she WON, and her father apologized.".

        So be happy your father was a bit hard.

        Steve
        Interesting point there about making a daughter (or son) try harder, Steve.

        In the other direction, I'd want to my daughter (or son) to feel adequate enough reject the jerks and abusers, and pick a good mate. It always baffles me when I see people stay with an abuser.

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        For son's and daughters, I would add a concept or two to the list:

        26) Regardless of the good and bad influences and impacts that people have on us, intentional or not,
        it's your journey and your choice as to how you handle those things, how much impact you let them have on you. Get good guidance when needed along the way. Realize that due to nature and nurture, you are who you are. (According to the Chinese Zodiac, I was born in a year of the Rat and some things certainly apply. Not that I believe in Zodiac stuff or not, just making the point that a lot of how we are is just how we are.)

        I admire a 21 year old woman for the way she responds to her alcoholic father. Fortunately, he is not a mean drunk. She just says he is "irresponsible" and it does not seem to have heavily impacted her in a negative way. She seems like a normal 21 year old who just socially drinks (good she has not become an alcoholic herself, or become a "tea totaler" out of deep seated anger/disgust/bitterness) and is putting herself through college...

        27) Make a living however you want to make a living, as long as it is legal.

        I think we've all seen how it screws people up when there is pressure to live the parent's dream.


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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

          Interesting point there about making a daughter (or son) try harder, Steve.

          In the other direction, I'd want to my daughter (or son) to feel adequate enough reject the jerks and abusers, and pick a good mate. It always baffles me when I see people stay with an abuser.
          I wasn't suggesting that you belittle your child, etc.... Heysal obviously didn't feel that way, and he let her know she did ok. I simply meant be honest and maybe push a little. Look at all those no talent people that try out for the talent shows because people told them they were talented.

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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            I wasn't suggesting that you belittle your child, etc.... Heysal obviously didn't feel that way, and he let her know she did ok. I simply meant be honest and maybe push a little. Look at all those no talent people that try out for the talent shows because people told them they were talented.

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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

          Interesting point there about making a daughter (or son) try harder, Steve.

          In the other direction, I'd want to my daughter (or son) to feel adequate enough reject the jerks and abusers, and pick a good mate. It always baffles me when I see people stay with an abuser.<snip>
          I think many abusers draw their prey in with honey, then go nasty once that person is somehow dependent on them, be it financially, psychologically, or whatever. Sort of how cults work. I would describe an abusive relationship as sort of a a mini-cult. Anyway, it is baffling and sometimes exasperating, especially for someone who can pick up on the abuser's true nature from the get-go.
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            I think many abusers draw their prey in with honey, then go nasty once that person is somehow dependent on them, be if financially, psychologically, or whatever. Sort of how cults work. I would describe an abusive relationship is sort of a a mini-cult. Anyway, it is baffling and sometimes exasperating, especially for someone who can pick up on the abuser's true nature from the get-go.
            Seems right in some cases. I'm cautious about people and let them reveal their true nature before they cause problems.

            However, I know someone who is in her early 40's and she seems to fit the pattern you describe. She used to work for me and judging from her resume, she seems to have gone way, way downhill since getting with her current "boyfriend" of about five years. From independent career woman to barely getting by and kind of trapped with him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Member8200
    Be careful what you're modeling for your daughter.
    Chances are, if you're not happy with your body or the way you look, your daughter will copy your actions. You are the most powerful role model in your child's life.
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