Spam on this forum has changed

I see this kind of post on an almost daily basis, and always report them.

I cannot understand why the mods seem unable to filter out these posts at source using keywords. It's a simple function in Wordpress, so why on earth is it so difficult to achieve with the Warrior Forum programming?

Kay - I'd be guessing if I said the problem was elevated nowadays. One thing I do know is this: moderation must be tightened up on weekends.

Annie - Excellent point. You might say I'm quite familiar running forum communities, especial with VB as the CMS. There are indeed many security provisions that could be utilized.

- Tom

What about people responding to post....yet they have a web link in their signature.

It's not new Kay, but if I remember correctly, Allen used to ban the IP
of the more persistent offenders which slowed them up a bit.

Seen the passport fakery for a year or so now.

Reported a couple spam posts today, one here and another up in the main forum.

Gets a bit tiring. But I imagine every bit helps. We all need to stand atop the battlements once in awhile to keep the buggers out.

I used to catch some of that when I spent more time "upstairs." It's always come in, but it got caught more regularly than now is my guess.

It's nothing new, Kay. Not sure if there's more of it now or not because I don't spend much time here anymore. There used to be a lot of it though.

I haven't posted here in about a week. I figured out I was spending too much time here and was taking away from what I should be doing.

Also, my natural inclination is to report things that are bad for the community such as spam especially since FL asked us to here and other places.

Even though I have still reported a few things, I think I'm going to give it up. Why? Because there is something seriously wrong with how things are working here.

I understand that they call the shots and can have 15 different sets of rules or throw away the rule book or do whatever they want. They can ban anyone, shut the place down, turn it into something totally different or anything else they want to do.

But when they start talking out of both sides of their mouths and treating people with utter disrespect - like fools even - it's time to think through the participation level.

What am I ranting about? They made a big thing about changing the rules about income claims. Most of us appreciated it. Most of us saw that may hurt their bottom line but admired them for taking a stand.

But a little while back they started allowing them again in some cases but it seems not in other cases.

The rule is still the same and in the post I linked to above they even mention reporting income claims but when I have, it appears that my reports have been largely ignored or something.

These aren't judgment calls. For example, I may think Johnny is over the line with a comment but the mod disagrees and thinks it's just a heated discussion that is okay. These are blatant rule violations that anyone with one eye and half sense can see.

Make $100 a day with this (or any number)...in the title means that the body copy doesn't even need to be read to know it is wrong. When looking at the body copy though, you'll see that the great majority of these are not being sold through Warrior Payments so there is no way to verify those income claims.

There was a new WSO yesterday that was a copy and paste of a Sean Mize WSO sales letter from last year. Another rule is that WSOs need to be special/unique. Using PLR isn't. But the report was ignored.

So if we report this and it's ignored what does that mean? In the spirit of fairness I've come up with a few reasons:

1. They didn't get the report for some reason.
2. They ask the seller to change but don't follow up and so it never gets changed.
3. They have changed the rules internally but haven't gotten around to changing the written rules.
4. They have a bad mod that sees the report and deletes it and doesn't do anything about it. Or maybe they aren't bad but lack training or understanding about what income claims mean.

But when it happens over and over and over again there is something seriously wrong. I'm with Kay's thoughts above - if I can hit the New Posts button and see all the new posts since I last visited in every forum then so can they. Why do they not see the dollar signs or the stolen passport claims in the titles when I do?

I think generally the mods do a good job. But why do things this way? Why treat the people trying to help them with such utter disrespect? If they have changed the rules then stand up and say the rules have been changed and if anyone complains they get banned. But don't have this double standard and make people feel like idiots for trying to help.

As far as quality versus quantity I think it was Mike Anthony that called it (if I recall correctly) - they don't know the difference between a good post or good answer and a newbie faker's answer. That's why they aren't cracking down on the sig spam and improving the quality of the conversation as they've promised.

I'm beginning to think anyone that spends one second reporting anything is just a fool - especially when they apparently don't want it even though they've asked for it.

Mark

Edit: If someone told me that they figured out that limiting income claims was economically unfeasible for them and they were testing some other options, I would shut my mouth and not say a word about it because they tried and for the sake of the entire forum they need to try something else.

I would rather have obnoxious income claims than no forum. I would understand their position and be grateful they gave it a good shot. But that's because I try to respect them (even though I've shared frustrations before I've always tried to be fair). When they are handling things the way they are now, it's obvious the respect is only one way. That's my gripe.

I don't think respect is bowing down nor is it taking anything you don't need to take. I think it's a sense of fairness that can survive little arguments or problems.

For example, I report posts because they have asked us to just like the previous management did. I try to do my part when I see something that is obviously against the rules by taking a minute to write a little report. I do that because I respect this forum - no matter who owns it - and want it to last. I do it because I want it to succeed and grow and to help more people just like it has helped me over the years. I want to be part of this community and just like in the real world where I may pick up some trash someone threw out, I pick up a little trash here too.

But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything and bow down to anyone. I think when I've shared my thoughts I've been, for the most part, fair to both sides. For example, above where I listed reasons that it may seem reports are getting ignored but they are never seeing them. Giving them the benefit of the doubt is part of respect. I also wrote this general string of thoughts to someone in management but they never got back to me. I wrote it there first because I wanted to be fair.

What others are doing I have no clue. I have no idea what you are talking about with the monetary gain stuff. You know more than me so I must not be in the club you keep trying to put me into.

Mark