Westboro idiot gets pounced. He didn't have a chance :)

9 years ago

WBC is a joke.

This one has always been my favorite -

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Why doesn't that guy leave them alone?

WBC is clearly one of the best forces for good on the planet. As a matter of fact I plan to open a chapter right here at the WF.

Who's with me????

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Kay King

9 years ago

Arguing with idiots and zealots gets you nowhere. If everyone turned their backs on those people - gave them no attention or views or airtime - they'd be left talking to each other.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Arguing with idiots and zealots gets you nowhere. If everyone turned their backs on those people - gave them no attention or views or airtime - they'd be left talking to each other.

I agree with you Kay. But this was not arguing.

This was an intense assassination and belittling of a human being much like Westboro does to everyone else

This westboro idiot was totally shaken. He did not know what hit him. You can see it in his eye and body language. He wasn't expecting this at all

Totally humiliated with his weight problem.

And the gluttony thing he couldn't come up with a strong counter.

The tables were turned and this idiot had nowhere to run.

I Loved every second of it

We need to get huge groups of people with Picket Signs outside their church that say "Proverbs 28:7 God hates Fatass westboro members who shame the Father with their glutton ways"

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Arguing with idiots and zealots gets you nowhere. If everyone turned their backs on those people - gave them no attention or views or airtime - they'd be left talking to each other.

It amazes me that someone would either carry the sign, or argue with them.
I could only watch a minute of it.

Watching ignorant people isn't fun. And watching someone berate an ignorant person is even less fun.

A fellow Forum Member ( DaniMc) has this as his signature; "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle"

I wish I took it to heart more than I do. It sounds like profound wisdom.

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Princess Balestra

9 years ago

Those guys don't need railings around 'em, they need a wall.

Westboro guys bust over the barrier, everyone inside gonna be in trouble.

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Kay King

9 years ago

I don't approve of those people - but I equally disapprove of the whining, self satisfied tone of the heckler. Attacking someone personally because you don't agree with their views is childish.

That's the problem with freedom of speech - we may not agree with what someone says but their right to say it is as strong as our right to disagree.

I'm not comfortable when someone is tearing another person down - have never been comfortable with that and hope I never am.

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lanfear63

9 years ago

It gets even more bizarre with this sect: WBC, they agreed with the woman who refused to issue same sex marriage certificates yet picketed her home because she she had been married and divorced four times. (married the current guy twice)

They obviously prioritise the importance of the sins committed.

The heckler had so much ammo he could have used, not very creative or intelligent just to heckle one member who had a Little Debbies problem.

Still, as Kay said, ignore them and they will eventually give up and go away.

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

The heckler had so much ammo he could have used.

No amount of ammo helps, if the one you shoot never acknowledges that they were hit.

One day, I would love to see a video, where someone says, "Wait. What you just said makes more sense than what I believed until right now. You just changed my mind"

Maybe some day.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

No amount of ammo helps, if the one you shoot never acknowledges that they were hit.

One day, I would love to see a video, where someone says, "Wait. What you just said makes more sense than what I believed until right now. You just changed my mind"

Maybe some day.

The success of the plethora of youtube video's you have made prove that it can and has been done. The niche disciples flocked to your temple, (er store) as a result.

Your path is clear my son. Make some more short videos targeting the subjects you are truly passionate about. That could be fun.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Still, as Kay said, ignore them and they will eventually give up and go away.

Unfortunately, you have not become too familiar with this group. ( actually probably a good thing lol)

And I think this is where a lot of you including Kay and Claude are tripping yourselves up.

Here is the underlining problem about your "ignore them and they will go away" ideology.

These people really truly do not care if you ignore them or pay attention to them. This is ALL for the glory of their God. This is their Mission. This is not a publicity Stunt like WWE wrestling trying to garner attention through bizarre acts.

These people truly believe this is their Mission and they are doing it for HIM and HIM alone.

Either way these people will continue to do this because they want to receive Salvation and so that God will look favorably upon them as "good little disciples". They dont care if you ignore them or not. They really dont

Its about them and their relationship to their God

This is their convoluted and bizarre thinking. Look at some of their personal interviews and you will find this out

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

These people really truly do not care if you ignore them or pay attention to them. This is ALL for the glory of their God. This is their Mission. This is not a publicity Stunt like WWE wrestling trying to garner attention through bizarre acts.

These people truly believe this is their Mission and they are doing it for HIM and HIM alone.

Either way these people will continue to do this because they want to receive Salvation and so that God will look favorably upon them as "good little disciples". They dont care if you ignore them or not. They really dont

First, I believe you.
Second, I don't think they will go away if I ignore them. The point is, I'll go away. It's just unbearable for me to be around religious zealots.

My Mom was one, as well as most of my relatives. It's a real pathological hatred I have for this kind of behavior. Far more than warranted.

You may like this;

Maybe 30 years ago, the local library had a book that was about being gay (Honest, it's been so long ago, I forget some of the details) Outside the library was a woman, protesting the library having such a sinful book.

When I walked out of the library, I stopped and said something like; "I want to thank you for being here, and bringing this to my attention. To be honest, I never gave gay people a second thought. But because you clearly named the book, I checked it out. Being gay sounds like a lot of fun, and I think I'll give it a try. But I never would have even thought about it, if it wasn't for you...standing out here..advertising the book".

I really did that. I wouldn't do it today, but I was more of a jerk back then.

I wonder what percentage of my business I've killed, just by not being able to keep my big mouth shut?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

These people really truly do not care if you ignore them or pay attention to them. This is ALL for the glory of their God......These people truly believe this is their Mission and they are doing it for HIM and HIM alone.

Naaaah....You been conned. You are believing that the reason people do things they do are always for the reasons they say they do them. Thats rarely the case. This is about Ego. We are righteous your are not ...no different than I am smart and you are not. I have money you don;t. I'm the better color than you. Has little to do with God or their religion and its pretty obvious in their case - Neither the Baptist creed nor the Bible calls for you to get in your enemies face and yell and picket funerals - the whole thing is anti to how HE tells them how to operate.

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It's just unbearable for me to be around religious zealots.

I'm the same way with atheist zealots too but then I am just generally anti zealot

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Unfortunately, you have not become too familiar with this group. ( actually probably a good thing lol)

And I think this is where a lot of you including Kay and Claude are tripping yourselves up.

Here is the underlining problem about your "ignore them and they will go away" ideology.

These people really truly do not care if you ignore them or pay attention to them. This is ALL for the glory of their God. This is their Mission. This is not a publicity Stunt like WWE wrestling trying to garner attention through bizarre acts.

These people truly believe this is their Mission and they are doing it for HIM and HIM alone.

Either way these people will continue to do this because they want to receive Salvation and so that God will look favorably upon them as "good little disciples". They dont care if you ignore them or not. They really dont

Its about them and their relationship to their God

This is their convoluted and bizarre thinking. Look at some of their personal interviews and you will find this out

What they believe is clear. However. reacting to them in any way (positive or negative) gives them publicity and in there distorted minds, a sense of empowerment and the justification to persist in there beliefs and go on in the hope of recruiting more people and confronting the nay-sayers. Take that away from them and they are just an isolated minority group with no power or influence.

If they start to disrupt peoples lives, break out of there little fenced off spots, start hurting, killing and maiming, then it is the time to lawfully curtail there activities which would still only be to bring to justice the perpetrators of the violence.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

What they believe is clear. However. reacting to them in any way (positive or negative) gives them publicity and in there distorted minds, a sense of empowerment and the justification to persist in there beliefs and go on in the hope of recruiting more people and confronting the nay-sayers. Take that away from them and they are just an isolated minority group with no power or influence.

I think these guys will never stop. Their commitment is complete. But by engaging them, we are throwing gasoline on a fire.

Psychologically, having an enemy attack (in reality or perceived), builds belief in your own fight. They feel more justified...and angry.

You can't shut them up, but you can enrage them.

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Princess Balestra 9 years ago

Mebbe we should backtrack to snakes and lettuce.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Unfortunately, you have not become too familiar with this group. ( actually probably a good thing lol)

And I think this is where a lot of you including Kay and Claude are tripping yourselves up.

Here is the underlining problem about your "ignore them and they will go away" ideology.

These people really truly do not care if you ignore them or pay attention to them. This is ALL for the glory of their God. This is their Mission. This is not a publicity Stunt like WWE wrestling trying to garner attention through bizarre acts.

These people truly believe this is their Mission and they are doing it for HIM and HIM alone.

Either way these people will continue to do this because they want to receive Salvation and so that God will look favorably upon them as "good little disciples". They dont care if you ignore them or not. They really dont

This isn't for "their god". You were more correct later, it is to get ATTENTION/PUBLICITY. A lot of their stuff is just WRONG. If they didn't get the NEWS COVERAGE, they would do something else. They do THIS because it is a small effort and CHEAP. They stay at a place, impeding public access and try to get the media to come out so it balloons. It is the SAME thing the "occupy" movement did, but on a smaller scale. This isn't even a denomination, it is a particular CHURCH, that is apparently mostly one family!

As for WHY they want the attention, outside of perhaps their church, etc... At least SOME is to try to curtail laws or behavior, though that is likely to have little effect. STILL, that portion is at least spoken of in the bible. The bible REALLY only calls believers to stay away from it, but says that AREAS that don't may reap some punishment because of it.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

It gets even more bizarre with this sect: WBC, they agreed with the woman who refused to issue same sex marriage certificates yet picketed her home because she she had been married and divorced four times. (married the current guy twice)

They obviously prioritise the importance of the sins committed.

The heckler had so much ammo he could have used, not very creative or intelligent just to heckle one member who had a Little Debbies problem.

Still, as Kay said, ignore them and they will eventually give up and go away.

Yeah, at least they didn't play favorites. IRONICALLY one reason why divorce became so popular was because the protestant revolution came into being which pulled the pope and any requests for payment and tasks out of the picture. The bible itself really only excuses divorce in some cases, but few people apparently aren't subject to those excuses, and even fewer would welcome any related investigation. But the bible doesn't recognize the pope.

The ironic thing is that the bible, IIRC, DOES excuse the earlier divorces from her.

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whateverpedia 9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Still, as Kay said, ignore them and they will eventually give up and go away.

Ignore them for sure, however these people are never going to fade away.

They could be used as an example in this thread
http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...n-created.html

They are passionate and their passion was created.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Arguing with idiots and zealots gets you nowhere. If everyone turned their backs on those people - gave them no attention or views or airtime - they'd be left talking to each other.

Some people would beg to differ !

If everyone turned their backs on them we would have a bunch of idiots right up in the faces of deceased Military soldiers and their funerals.

Because people decided to NOT to turn their backs on them (Patriot guard motorcycle gang faced Westboro head on) we had a funeral procession that was uninterrupted for these poor soldiers

Originally Posted by Kay King

If everyone turned their backs on those people - gave them no attention or views or airtime - they'd be left talking to each other.

Easier said than done. Try being a mom of a deceased soldier next to a guy with a sign 30 ft away from you son's funeral saying "Thank God for PEDs" and "Your Soldier Son is Going to Hell" and shouting at the top of his lungs !.

Whats that saying "walk a mile in someone else's shoes"

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9 years ago

Isn't "Westboro" and "idiot" a bit redundant?

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Meh counter productive. You join them in their foolishness you legitimize them - Especially when the accusation is not true. You can put on weight easily at a desk job or as a long distant trucker without gluttony.
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Claude Whitacre 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Isn't "Westboro" and "idiot" a bit redundant?

No. It's relativistically irreducible., like you calling anyone else an idiot.

Made you look.
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9 years ago

THIS is what you PRAISE about and say he got pounced, etc? That idiot almost made the westboro guys look good. The Bible SPECIFICALLY goes against people that lie, cheat, steal, do perverted things, etc... It does NOT go against someone for being fat. And they were not saying they were blameless in any way.

And the westboro guys were NOT there to speak of their sins, or debate how fat should be treated. Talking to that jerk chanting FATTY would take away from what they wanted to do so, OF COURSE, they didn't discuss it.

As for the Fat? You can get fat WITHOUT eating a lot. It isn't so much how MUCH, but WHAT you eat. That is one reason why there are so many poor fat people, and rich skinny people. A lot of meals in some cultures that tend to be poor tend to be high in fat/sugar(calories), and lower, as a percentage, in protein. So even some muscle, that is burned, may be stored as fat. HECK, I would be thinner if not for WHAT I eat. Some people are smaller than I am and eat a LOT more than I do and don't have that much fat, even as a percentage.

FAT compared simply to protein as calories, is over twice as efficient as storing energy(9 calories per gram, versus 4). Calorie is a measure of ENERGY. Add in conversion energy, and it may be close to three times.

That is NOT to say I agree with the westboro guys. They give guys a bad name, and upset a lot of decent people, just to get their name in the paper.

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Princess Balestra

9 years ago

Hey, that still point cuspin' out between swords and ploughshares gets vanishingly smaller the more ya try to squint it bigger n clearer.

Sometimes ya gotta walk, sometimes ya gotta take a pop, and in spite of all the history and XP we got, the raw and naked present can be a bitch.

But that's life, I guess: burnin' up masqueradin' as forever, eternal passin' up no single ignition.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

Hey, that still point cuspin' out between swords and ploughshares gets vanishingly smaller the more ya try to squint it bigger n clearer.

Sometimes ya gotta walk, sometimes ya gotta take a pop, and in spite of all the history and XP we got, the raw and naked present can be a bitch.

But that's life, I guess: burnin' up masqueradin' as forever, eternal passin' up no single ignition.

First, It takes my entire brain to understand what you are saying. Thanks for the exercise.

And, this is a serious question. Do you talk like that in real life? Is there a name for it?
I'm being sincere.

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Princess Balestra 9 years ago

Flyin' out. so i gotta be quick here.

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

And, this is a serious question. Do you talk like that in real life? Is there a name for it?
I'm being sincere.

Range of options, C. Sometimes stuff hits big, some idea, and I don't get it myself but i say it anyways just to see.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I got to admit every now and again you hit on some good expressions. I am a fan of that one

Occasionally, sumthin' makes it thru, some lever people can use.

Here's what I jus' woke up with:

scream for wheels
under ya.

roll out,
gear up some

friction
burnin'
fire
from air

fuk yeh

Coulda done with wakin' up on a cloud but there ya go.

There was sumthin' el;se but that's the essence.

Now i gotta go fix breakfast.

Short vacation ahead.

Stay cool.
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seasoned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

Hey, that still point cuspin' out between swords and ploughshares gets vanishingly smaller the more ya try to squint it bigger n clearer.

That verse speaks of the END!!!!!!!

BEGINNING(1).......UTTER PERVERSION(2)............CARELESS(3).....DECENT(4) .................................................P ERFECTION(5)

Right now, the world has regressed into somewhere between 2 and 3. The plowshare bit is to happen after 5!

And DON'T think that banning "weapons" will do it. A plowshare for example, COULD be a VERY deadly weapon! And pruning hooks can certainly be weapons. A branch of a tree can be a weapon. The world saw a LOT of murders before guns were ever invented. And don't forget!!!!!!! GERMANY was forbidden to use weapons etc.... They swung SO far over that we had WWII!

HECK one guy recently said, lounge in cheek, that the problem is the STEEL is evil! OK, that may be, but NOW they even make guns out of plastic and ceramic.

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Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

eternal passin' up no single ignition.

LOL....... Though most of the time it borders on gibberish to sound different I got to admit every now and again you hit on some good expressions. I am a fan of that one
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socialentry

9 years ago

Gluttony is a sin and you're obese lol.

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Banned 9 years ago

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9 years ago

The heckler engaging the wbc guy at that level makes him no different, both hateful. As are the people who enjoy seeing someone get smacked down, no matter the reason.

The Patriot Guard are not a 'motorcycle gang'. The are local, sometimes regional, biker people who block wbc-types from service men and women's funerals. There are no insults, no fights, no overt threats - just a group of people (admittedly, some are over 6ft 200lb+ ex-military that are scary looking without the biker gear) that block them out and tell them, "You can't come in here, you're not welcome." That's usually all it takes.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

The heckler engaging the wbc guy at that level makes him no different, both hateful. As are the people who enjoy seeing someone get smacked down, no matter the reason.

The Patriot Guard are not a 'motorcycle gang'. The are local, sometimes regional, biker people who block wbc-types from service men and women's funerals. There are no insults, no fights, no overt threats - just a group of people (admittedly, some are over 6ft 200lb+ ex-military that are scary looking without the biker gear) that block them out and tell them, "You can't come in here, you're not welcome." That's usually all it takes.

The fat shaming wasn't necessary but I do enjoy watching a person engaged in ugly, non productive activities getting smacked down - different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I do enjoy watching a person engaged in ugly, non productive activities getting smacked down - different strokes for different folks I guess.

Spoken like a true NBA and NFL Fan. And a renowned Spur hater as well
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

The heckler engaging the wbc guy at that level makes him no different, both hateful. As are the people who enjoy seeing someone get smacked down, no matter the reason.

I agree. To me, it isn't the content of what the guy is saying. In our country, we have the right to say anything, no matter how silly or insane.

We also have the right to disagree.

But taunting? Bullying? To me, that's a personality defect.

Personally, I think zealots are insane, dangerously insane. But that's just a personal opinion.

The fat Westboro guy is doing what he fervently believes in, and I have to admire that. He isn't paid to be there. To him, he's doing the right thing. To him, he's doing noble work.

The guy taunting him?
He knows he's not adding anything. He's just trying to hurt the Westboro guy. There is nothing noble about what he is doing. He is bullying the other man for fun...insulting him personally.

The Westboro guy sees himself in a hard battle, fighting evil. And that's why I try to be kind to the magical thinkers I meet.

I'm not always successful at following my own advice.

The few against the many. To me, there is something heroic in that. But I sometimes admire something in people, but find them intolerable at the same time.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The fat Westboro guy is doing what he fervently believes in, and I have to admire that. He isn't paid to be there. To him, he's doing the right thing. To him, he's doing noble work.

The guy taunting him?
He knows he's not adding anything. He's just trying to hurt the Westboro guy. There is nothing noble about what he is doing. He is bullying the other man for fun...insulting him personally.

The Westboro guy sees himself in a hard battle, fighting evil.

I don't see how you could come to these conclusions, Claude. You admire the bigoted Westboro guy because he is fighting evil but you don't think the other guy is doing the same?

There's nothing noble what that Westboro guy is doing and I could make the same argument that he enjoys calling people fags. To me the guy ridiculing the Westboro guy is more noble although I also don't like the fat shaming aspect.

I can understand someone saying they are both wrong, but saying you admire the Westboro guy but think the other guy is just a bully? Wow!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I don't see how you could come to these conclusions, Claude. You admire the bigoted Westboro guy because he is fighting evil but you don't think the other guy is doing the same?

There's nothing noble what that Westboro guy is doing and I could make the same argument that he enjoys calling people fags. To me the guy ridiculing the werstboro guy is more noble although I also don't usually like the fat shaming aspect.

I get that. Here is my reasoning.

The Westboro guy is insane. I was only talking about his point of view, not mine. And I only admire that small part of him that believes what he is doing is the right thing.

The heckler is smarter than the Westboro guy, and appears less insane. To me, that adds responsibility. The Westboro guy can't help himself. He's incompetent.

For example, if I teased a Westboro guy and taunted him, that would be unforgivable, because I'm rational.

This is just my point of view.

To be honest, when I see the video, I see a mean person, taunting an incompetent person. Had I been there, I may have defended the Westboro guy.

See, to me..what they believe is immaterial. Their motives are not.

I see people as sets of motives, levels of intellect, aptitudes, habits, sets of values, and whether they are a threat or not. You see the people as real people, and that's why we see different things.

if I heard someone yelling about someone being a fag, I might see who they were yelling at, ad if they were in any danger. But the person yelling it? That person is suffering from a mental illness, and least in my perspective. Do you argue with the mentally ill? Yell at them?

When a dog barks at you, do you bark back? Do you even get angry at the dog? Why not? The dog can't help itself.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The Westboro guy is insane. I was only talking about his point of view, not mine.

Of course. However, you say you somehow admire the Westboro guy and not the guy who heckles him. The heckler probably thinks these people are truly evil. I think that he probably feels he is doing something positive as just as you think the Westboro guy feels he is doing what is right. The heckler probably feels the best way to get these people to stop their hate is by giving them a bit of a taste of their own medicine. Make them feel uncomfortable. Maybe it will make them think and reconsider what they are doing.

I don't know, but I think being called fat probably stings a bit less than being a parent who goes to the funeral of their son, a fallen soldier, only to see these idiots calling him a fag, saying god hates him and that he's going to hell. Just a guess on my part though. lol

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Of course. However, you say you somehow admire the Westboro guy and not the guy who heckles him. The heckler probably thinks these people are truly evil. I think that he probably feels he is doing something positive as just as you think the Westboro guy feels he is doing what is right. The heckler probably feels the best way to get these people to stop their hate is by giving them a bit of a taste of their own medicine. Make them feel uncomfortable. Maybe it will make them think and reconsider what they are doing.

I agree that the heckler almost certainly thinks that the Westboro guy is evil. And he feels justified. If I thought in terms of good and evil, I would agree with him. From both of their points of view, they are completely justified. My point is that the more sane a person is, the more responsible they are for their behavior. And like I told Andrew, I only admired the fact that the guy was fighting for what he believed. I can admire a quality, without admiring the person who has it.

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I don't know, but I think being called fat probably stings a bit less than being a parent who goes to the funeral of their son, a fallen soldier, only to see these idiots calling him a fag, saying god hates him and that he's going to hell. Just a guess on my part though. lol

I didn't know we were talking about that. Like I said, these people are insane. And insane people are just to be avoided. The patriot Guard (whom I know nothing about), keeping the Westboro guys at a distance, is certainly the best response.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I agree. To me, it isn't the content of what the guy is saying. In our country, we have the right to say anything, no matter how silly or insane.

We also have the right to disagree.

But taunting? Bullying? To me, that's a personality defect.

Personally, I think zealots are insane, dangerously insane. But that's just a personal opinion.

The fat Westboro guy is doing what he fervently believes in, and I have to admire that. He isn't paid to be there. To him, he's doing the right thing. To him, he's doing noble work.

The guy taunting him?
He knows he's not adding anything. He's just trying to hurt the Westboro guy. There is nothing noble about what he is doing. He is bullying the other man for fun...insulting him personally.

The Westboro guy sees himself in a hard battle, fighting evil. And that's why I try to be kind to the magical thinkers I meet.

I'm not always successful at following my own advice.

The few against the many. To me, there is something heroic in that. But I sometimes admire something in people, but find them intolerable at the same time.

Claude I have a lot of respect for you and will continue to. But honest to goodness this is one of the most irrational Posts and flawed ideologies I have ever seen you Post here at WF.

Very uncharacteristic of you.

Are you feeling okay ? Did Riffle spike your drink with something today ?

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Claude I have a lot of respect for you and will continue to. But honest to goodness this is one of the most irrational Posts and flawed ideologies I have ever seen you Post here at WF.

Very uncharacteristic of you.

Are you feeling okay ? Did Riffle spike your drink with something today ?

It's not irrational at all. In fact, it's rational, and nothing else. Try to look past the idea that the Westboro guy is spouting nonsense. Look past the idea that his taunter is making a (arguably) valid point. Try not to judge them by what they believe, their point of view.

We do not choose what we believe. It's an involuntary process.

You call it a flawed ideology. It isn't an ideology at all.

You are seeing things in the video (and in life) that I ignore and look past. So my perceptions will always be different than yours.

In no way, am I saying that my peception is better. Just different.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I agree. To me, it isn't the content of what the guy is saying. In our country, we have the right to say anything, no matter how silly or insane.

We also have the right to disagree.

But taunting? Bullying? To me, that's a personality defect.

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Hogwash !! Where does it say you have the right to say anything to anybody no matter how insane it is ??
There's limits and there are boundaries to that.

You come up to my wife and to her face call her stupid, ignorant,b@tch..well your going to get more than a bully. And more than a disagreement.

Somebody will more than likely hit the ground . And that's not a personality defect at all !

A personality defect would be if you did not defend your wife's honor

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Hogwash !! Where does it say you have the right to say anything to anybody no matter how insane it is ??
There's limits and there are boundaries to that.

You come up to my wife and to her face call her stupid, ignorant,b@tch..well your going to get more than a bully. And more than a disagreement.

Somebody will more than likely hit the ground . And that's not a personality defect at all !

A personality defect would be if you did not defend your wife's honor

Andrew;

maybe this will help.

If you came up to my wife, and called her a bitch, we would walk away. I wouldn't yell, get red faced, or engage with you......Why? Because you are not a threat. (I don't really mean you personally) You think of other people as equals, so you are offended, angered, threatened, and respond like a person.

I don't. Part of not feeling empathy, is not being part of the tribe. I'm not part of the tribe, so I see everyone in the tribe in a completely different way.

You cannot see people, as I see them. You expect people to be civil and rational. I don't.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Andrew;

maybe this will help.

If you came up to my wife, and called her a bitch, we would walk away. Why? Because you are not a threat. You think of other people as equals, so you are offended, angered, threatened, and respond like a person.

I don't. Part of not feeling empathy, is not being part of the tribe. I'm not part of the tribe, so I see everyone in the tribe in a completely different way.

You cannot see people, as I see them. You expect people to be civil and rational. I don't.

I know your story and the same ole song and dance already, Claude " Im so different I wanna sound the trumpets for the whole World to know" Whitacre !!

But we are talking about the normal people in our Society

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I know your story and the same ole song and dance already, Claude " Im so different I wanna sound the trumpets for the whole World to know" Whitacre !!

But we are talking about the normal people in our Society

Yes. The people in the video actually are the normal people in our society.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

The heckler engaging the wbc guy at that level makes him no different, both hateful. As are the people who enjoy seeing someone get smacked down, no matter the reason.

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Yeah just as the little boy who engages with and beats up the school bully I guess is no different either than the bully

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Princess Balestra

9 years ago

Guy with the beard is takin' a cheap shot, for sure.

He hits home, the Westboro guy gonna examine his conscience, mebbe weep like a baby.

Westboro guy is takin' a costly shot.

He hits home, a whole buncha people gonna get lynched.

I reckon takin' a personal pop wins out over an impersonal & dehumanised blitz any time.

Personal is always big on emotes, impersonal is always big on zero emotes, 'specially when allied to bulldozers buryin' your fag friends in the dirt.

So, one guy takes a fool stand, whippin' up snarko opposition and pokin' a glory moment finger in a single bearded navel.

K, so who's next?

Who's gonna say sumthin' less stoopider?

Or is the plan we wait for all shades of mf to come **** on whatever they wanna?

Mebbe that has merit also 'cos there's nobility in walkin' away and snuffin' all life from a demon child really needs ya right now.

Oh, we glow when you blow, baby, so come feed us with your controlled disgust.

Mebbe LGBT is ok for now, kinda like a fagocracy reignin' over no one by mutual consent.

And mebbe the target gonna become some other buncha hoomans in the future.

I am speculatin' without a conclusion here.

And I gotta go eat pizza.

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

Guy with the beard is takin' a cheap shot, for sure.

He hits home, the Westboro guy gonna examine his conscience, mebbe weep like a baby.

Westboro guy is takin' a costly shot.

He hits home, a whole buncha people gonna get lynched.

I reckon takin' a personal pop wins out over an impersonal & dehumanised blitz any time.

Personal is always big on emotes, impersonal is always big on zero emotes, 'specially when allied to bulldozers buryin' your fag friends in the dirt.

So, one guy takes a fool stand, whippin' up snarko opposition and pokin' a glory moment finger in a single bearded navel.

K, so who's next?

Who's gonna say sumthin' less stoopider?

Or is the plan we wait for all shades of mf to come **** on whatever they wanna?

Mebbe that has merit also 'cos there's nobility in walkin' away and snuffin' all life from a demon child really needs ya right now.

Oh, we glow when you blow, baby, so come feed us with your controlled disgust.

Mebbe LGBT is ok for now, kinda like a fagocracy reignin' over no one by mutual consent.

And mebbe the target gonna become some other buncha hoomans in the future.

I am speculatin' without a conclusion here.

And I gotta go eat pizza.

I understood everything you said.

I'm afraid...very afraid.

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lanfear63 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I understood everything you said.

I'm afraid...very afraid.

"And I gotta go eat pizza."

You definitely agreed with that bit.
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