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Can Any Emotion Be Uncreated?

by Princess Balestra
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Love, sadness, passion, rage -- gonna write out alla the greats here an' throw 'em into the conundrum machine on a high temp wash.

'Cos we been figurin' on the rise of one specific emotion in another thread, an' swingin' all shades of opinion.

But what if what is felt has already risen inside ya?

Consumes ya beyond all control, be it iCerebral or The Goddamn Law?

In our aspirational zest to take on qualities we lack, we sometimes overlook the abundance of stuff we got (drivin' us crazy!)

Beholdin' treasure as dirt is no way to whack an X on a spot.

Oh yeah, but that's bein' all logical in a lyrical way.

I said consumed, taken out, driven, possessed.

K, so I'll stick my neck out an' say it.

We all got wants an' passions an' desires, an' we all wanna aspire to 'make it' on these terms.

But we are blighted and harmed and stoopid an' feeble also, and all too often our nemesis is self-generated, a genesis we cannot stop.

When we're up close an' personal with the world, feelin' is our only guide.

Sure, we think an' we reflect, but the skin on our bones, the light droppin' in our eyes, the lick of stuff, is the only interface we got between the rollin' atomsouly thing we are and all other anythings.

Feelin' is kinda everythin' that way, here an' now in the moment, an' 'cos we're not born with all the solutions, gotta figure we pleasure or pain out wonky along the way.

So, yeah, there's the guy gonna punch your frickin' lights out if'n you look at him funny.

He feels it, feels you ****in' on him, and he gotta gutsy tellya.

An' listen, sweetie, you can't cry about your dead brother forever 'cos your loss gonna eat out your soul.

C'mon sweetie.

Please stop.

Hey, c'mon, please, babe.

Uh huh, oh yeah, an' I'm the one gonna fix you real good 'cos I ain't never forgettin' the day you won out on me, an' I'm devotin' resta my life to your demise, you mf.

Or maybe I'll steal your kid right outta your home an' f*ck her.

(kinda hopin' you can throw in your own examples here, prolly people who piss you off big time, or jus' plain monsters.)

So I figure we all got sumthin' revved up way too hard.

We skip an' cycle thru alla the other stuff, loft high, drop low, smile an' frown an' laugh, but in the end there is the one bomb drops, marks us unfree.

Consumption is slavery. Drive is imprisonment. Will is a curse sought and found.

Seeing may well be believing but feeling gotta be the truth -- and I feel this, I can only feel this right now, consumed thing that I am.

Can these kinda feelings be uncreated?

If we wanna ask about the creation of feelings (gotta love passion), get philosophically zesty with our aspiration, we also gotta figure on how we ride out alla the shit defines our sensibilities sometimes and truths out the info hittin' us close up.

Anyone else here outta control?

Feelin' hard on sumthin' thought an' reflection would rather not wanna?

I figure we all got this in some kinda shade.

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    Memory is a decision.

    Seriously.

    Think about it... in any given second our bodies are picking up thousands of sensory signals.

    Yet, we choose to only become CONSCIOUS of a fraction of these.

    Of those conscious signals, we only choose to remember a FRACTION.

    The sad part is most people do this out of HABIT.

    Not surprisingly, we end up hanging on to things that don't really push us forward or give fulfillment.

    If we were to be more CONSCIOUS of what we choose to remember and dwell on, we'd be HAPPIER and MORE CONTENT
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Hey.

      Memory could be a decision.

      Direct where you look, gonna hit on memories you preconfigured, I guess.

      But all the stimuli in the world are biggr'n you, so some gonna get through.

      So: luv the courage of your 'is', but we ain't Gods.

      An' I think also ur rampin' up freedom of choice against force of habit.

      I'm with William James on alla that, but where's the mechanism slippin' the 0.00001% of a chance past the consumed 100?

      Where's the gap?

      So: withya on the optimismo, but these are words.

      Say this to the guy I mentioned gonna **** your kid:

      "If we were to be more CONSCIOUS of what we choose to remember and dwell on, we'd be HAPPIER and MORE CONTENT"

      Sounds great until you trap it all down on a feelo.

      All our best wisdom been mangled by beasts.

      So howya gonna free 'em up?

      Some people wanna be real conscious of what they're doinfeelin' to the exclusion of evrythin' else because they are consumed.

      They gonna snort this kinda stuff real deep, tellya.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      Memory is a decision.

      Yet, we choose to only become CONSCIOUS of a fraction of these.
      While we can make a determined effort to remember certain things, the vast majority (I don't know the exact number, but I'd guess around 99.9%) of everything stored in our memory has nothing to do with any conscious decision we made.

      We can, however, make a conscious choice regarding what we focus on and dwell on (to a point). But those two things and memory are entirely different animals.
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      • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
        Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

        We can, however, make a conscious choice regarding what we focus on and dwell on (to a point). But those two things and memory are entirely different animals.
        yy

        *types the word BEHEMOTH*

        I remember what this word means, I remember how my fingers gotta move to type it all out, but I can't tellya how I do this. Weirdo frickin' zoo.

        Also, in the spirit of consumption, how we gonna drive a wedge between focus and dwell?

        We're splittin' off here, but consumption knows (memory) no such split.

        Gonna type the word BEHEMOTH again, 'cos I love her.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Can Any Emotion Be Uncreated?
    Can you undo the past?

    There's your answer... welcome to earth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Can you undo the past?
      Hey, I quit smokin', but I knew I was doin' that.

      Every new breath I took got choked out by the lure of sumthin' old.

      Undoin' the past meant settin' that aside, clear break.

      But consumption knows no such breaks until it's undone.

      Past gonna roll on forever this way, snuff out all other futures.

      Terra firma-ing on this one now, head outta any clouds.

      Here on Earth, are still-done-up pasts ****in' on stuff?

      Or are we liberato-feelo nouveau on evry ticket?
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        Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

        Hey, I quit smokin', but I knew I was doin' that.

        Every new breath I took got choked out by the lure of sumthin' old.

        Undoin' the past meant settin' that aside, clear break.

        But consumption knows no such breaks until it's undone.

        Past gonna roll on forever this way, snuff out all other futures.

        Terra firma-ing on this one now, head outta any clouds.

        Here on Earth, are still-done-up pasts ****in' on stuff?

        Or are we liberato-feelo nouveau on evry ticket?


        The smoking isn't undone, you're talking about it so you still know it once existed. Addiction is just as much mental as it is physical.

        Who's on first?
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        • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          The smoking isn't undone, you're talking about it so you still know it once existed. Addiction is just as much mental as it is physical.
          Who's on first?
          Hey, I figure we're all on together.

          Cut out my brain & I'm gonna fall offa my own shoes.

          Cut off my body an' I guess my brain goin' nowhere fast.

          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          Thinking about it now, even with the abusive relationship example, the trials and tribulations you encounter effect your life, so would you really want to unlearn them?
          Hey, that typo you got prolly apter than what you wanted to write.

          An' it's funny.

          Life threw me sumthin' last week got me thinkin' about some shit I had when I was 14/15, all kinda sad.

          Don't wanna go back there but it struck me how I ain't ever gonna have teenysad again.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    The fastest way to uncreate someone's emotion is to uncreate the person.

    From dust to dust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    It depends who you ask.

    Someone who came out of an abusive relationship can learn that not all people are like that.

    A soldier coming back from war, somehow responsible for killing an innocent child, or having half their body dismembered by a bomb -- I don't think those emotions can be unlearned. They change your being.

    Thinking about it now, even with the abusive relationship example, the trials and tribulations you encounter effect your life, so would you really want to unlearn them?
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    Effect/affect, you're prob right. Good, or bad, I think those flashbacks remind you about why you are who you are.

    Would you undo what happened? From those memories as a teen?
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Nah.

    I figure if I switch 'em, either the universe will unravel or my otherwise perfect 30s or 70s gonna be ravaged by karmic blight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

    Love, sadness, passion, rage -- gonna write out alla the greats here an' throw 'em into the conundrum machine on a high temp wash.

    'Cos we been figurin' on the rise of one specific emotion in another thread, an' swingin' all shades of opinion.

    But what if what is felt has already risen inside ya?

    Consumes ya beyond all control, be it iCerebral or The Goddamn Law?

    In our aspirational zest to take on qualities we lack, we sometimes overlook the abundance of stuff we got (drivin' us crazy!)

    Beholdin' treasure as dirt is no way to whack an X on a spot.

    Oh yeah, but that's bein' all logical in a lyrical way.

    I said consumed, taken out, driven, possessed.

    K, so I'll stick my neck out an' say it.

    We all got wants an' passions an' desires, an' we all wanna aspire to 'make it' on these terms.

    But we are blighted and harmed and stoopid an' feeble also, and all too often our nemesis is self-generated, a genesis we cannot stop.

    When we're up close an' personal with the world, feelin' is our only guide.

    Sure, we think an' we reflect, but the skin on our bones, the light droppin' in our eyes, the lick of stuff, is the only interface we got between the rollin' atomsouly thing we are and all other anythings.

    Feelin' is kinda everythin' that way, here an' now in the moment, an' 'cos we're not born with all the solutions, gotta figure we pleasure or pain out wonky along the way.

    So, yeah, there's the guy gonna punch your frickin' lights out if'n you look at him funny.

    He feels it, feels you ****in' on him, and he gotta gutsy tellya.

    An' listen, sweetie, you can't cry about your dead brother forever 'cos your loss gonna eat out your soul.

    C'mon sweetie.

    Please stop.

    Hey, c'mon, please, babe.

    Uh huh, oh yeah, an' I'm the one gonna fix you real good 'cos I ain't never forgettin' the day you won out on me, an' I'm devotin' resta my life to your demise, you mf.

    Or maybe I'll steal your kid right outta your home an' f*ck her.

    (kinda hopin' you can throw in your own examples here, prolly people who piss you off big time, or jus' plain monsters.)

    So I figure we all got sumthin' revved up way too hard.

    We skip an' cycle thru alla the other stuff, loft high, drop low, smile an' frown an' laugh, but in the end there is the one bomb drops, marks us unfree.

    Consumption is slavery. Drive is imprisonment. Will is a curse sought and found.

    Seeing may well be believing but feeling gotta be the truth -- and I feel this, I can only feel this right now, consumed thing that I am.

    Can these kinda feelings be uncreated?

    If we wanna ask about the creation of feelings (gotta love passion), get philosophically zesty with our aspiration, we also gotta figure on how we ride out alla the shit defines our sensibilities sometimes and truths out the info hittin' us close up.

    Anyone else here outta control?

    Feelin' hard on sumthin' thought an' reflection would rather not wanna?

    I figure we all got this in some kinda shade.

    Archmaiden of gibberish schwango tryin' to touch onya here, prolly with typos...

    I've read this several times, and can't figure out what the idea is here. Can someone please state it more clearly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Sorry to baffle ya, Claude.

      I was jus' flippin' over the trail we just had about the possibility of creatin' passion.

      Seems the conclusion we reached there was that we love discussin' all shades of nature vs nurture.

      However passion gets in us, once it's around, then its here for us, bang on the interface between ourselves & the world, tangible as a feelin'.

      What I'm suggestin' here is how to uncreate or moderate feelings that gotta hold of us in a destructive way -- proneness to anger or sadness or envy that never seems to resolve itself into anything positive.

      I figure we all got a few of these in our locker, foibles over which we repeatedly trip.

      We can't uncreate the past or rewire our synapses afresh every time our inner beast takes a bite, but I figured we gotta do some wrestlin' some time to tame whatever we got bad.

      But what if we got it so bad we can't see it?

      What's the way in?

      So it was kinda about that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

        What I'm suggestin' here is how to uncreate or moderate feelings that gotta hold of us in a destructive way — proneness to anger or sadness or envy that never seems to resolve itself into anything positive.

        I figure we all got a few of these in our locker, foibles over which we repeatedly trip.

        We can't uncreate the past or rewire our synapses afresh every time our inner beast takes a bite, but I figured we gotta do some wrestlin' some time to tame whatever we got bad.

        But what if we got it so bad we can't see it?

        What's the way in?

        So it was kinda about that.
        This is just a guess,

        I don't think you can uncreate/stop feelings. Our reactions aren't conscious. But how we behave when we get those feelings is at least partially conscious.

        I can only tell you how I react when I'm really angry or sad. I experience the anger or sadness, but I'm also aware...in the moment...that these are very temporary. Like hitting your finger with a hammer. Sure it hurts, but if you also realize...at the same time you feel the pain, that it will mostly go away in a minute or less...it really makes it easier.

        When you're deeply sad (as an example) no matter what your rational brain tells you...you are still sad, because these things are processed in different areas of the brain.

        But if I'm really angry (as an example) it only lasts a minute or less, because I'm aware, when I first get angry, that this is just a feeling...and it will go away very quickly. Believe it or not, that almost instantly makes it better.

        In the moment of extreme emotion, it feels like this reality is all there is. That it will last forever. But all things pass.

        Unfortunately for me, it also works on pleasure. I feel really happy (or see it in others) and my first thought is that it's a temporary chemical reaction, that will pass in a moment.

        I don't know if you're able to be aware of your emotions while you are feeling them (I mean aware that they are just a reaction, and not permanent), but when I get angry, I immediately know that it's just a very temporary state, and it goes away quickly. And then I get disappointed that I allowed someone to make me angry. But it's a lesser emotion, and also goes away quickly.

        I think the reason this works for me, is that, as I'm thinking about anger as a temporary reaction, I'm immediately using the rational part of the brain. And it's difficult to hold two ideas in your consciousness at the same time. And the rational part dominates the emotional part...and the feeling lessens.

        If you mean you get angry, and it builds in you until you act in a destructive way...over the course of a day or longer....I don't know.

        II don't know if that helps at all.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I've read this several times, and can't figure out what the idea is here. Can someone please state it more clearly?
      Sometimes seasoned is easier to understand.
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    @Claude

    Translation:

    We've only touched upon passion in the other thread, but I'd rather consider the whole gamut --- love, passion,hatred, etc. Let us call it emotion X.

    Consider the case where you are already prey to said emotion X. It is overpowering.

    There are events that we'd rather forget. Events that keep us from reaching our goals.

    As an example:
    The guy that threatens to bash your head in at a bar.
    Or the stalker

    Naturally, they are life changing events, but we can learn to forget?

    Did I get that write, O archmaiden and keeper of the word salad?
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      K, we're good to go on the lettuce and tomato but I gotta tweak that cucumber slice.

      The events are done & gone, and it's not so much about learning to forget (them) as learning not to recreate the feeling in the face of a new situation in a kind of raw & visceral way.

      Feelin' each time is equally fresh and venerable, hot as magnesium, cold as a frozen mammoth sprung from the memory locker.

      So the stalker and the guy in the bar are hooked on that way of bein', an' all of us are hooked on something trips us up over and over.

      K, so mebbe we don't need tusks throwin' into the salad mix, but there ya go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    I'd vote against unlearning. An example, my ex. She's a hateful, ruthless, vengeful person that left me with some amazingly vivid memories, to put it simply.

    When the "flashbacks" pop up and I get anxious, it reminds me who I am, and who I was when I was with her. They aren't the same person. Those painful reminders make sure I don't repeat the same mistakes.

    That knowledge is priceless, IMO and couldn't be gained any other way than navigating my way through her emotional roller coaster ride.

    On the other end of the spectrum, when I feel good, I want to repeat it. When good memories come up from the past, I like to wallow in them. Definitely wouldn't unlearn those.
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      There's a whole landscape in there, for sure.

      Topography we head toward like it's a beach, an' other stuff we steer away from.

      An' I guess if you get shaky about sumthin' from the past, the mere thought shows ya where ur at with it (kinda like what Yukon said about the smokin').

      Guess you gotta keep runnin' the reel over an' over tillya see what ur doin', kinda stop yourself from burnin' up in a flash some un-unlearnable thing ur prompted to recreate afresh.

      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Sometimes seasoned is easier to understand.
      Yeah, he's real CLEAR about STUFF in ways that I am NOT.

      Thing is, I'm not hittin' on any kinda answer here.

      Jus' speculatin'.

      And some cool stuff is comin' out, like the difference between focus an' dwellin' in the light of Synnuh's run-to goodies and back-away-from flashbacks.

      Hey -- Claude has jus' posted so lemme pause on that...

      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      In the moment of extreme emotion, it feels like this reality is all there is. That it will last forever. But all things pass.
      ...k, that's kinda what I was hopin' to spike out.

      I know all things pass, swap an' change throughout the day, the week, an' I know this because I am not elated now as I've been, not as angry, sad, whatever.

      But you're right, in the eye of the storm things can appear eternally consuming like they never gonna go away, an' it's keepin' those moments of madness small as you can without snuffin' the value they bring which is kinda a big deal for me.

      So, yeah, things pass, but then they come round again an' you get to spar on with 'em.

      Nothin' gets uncreated in a wipeouty way, but there's a filter on it, some line you see between the focus of your Emotion X and the feelin' tellin' you incontrovertible how it is.

      Guess I gotta learn to control myself better & quit punchin' out like a mare.

      Thanks for takin' the time to muse on my salad.

      It was hastily prepared but I tried with the capers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        It also helps keep you from getting angry with others, when you realizes that almost nobody is really evil.

        I really like what is in someone's signature,

        "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle".

        Don't think of them (people who anger you) as bad people. Think of them as people in pain, people struggling. Your whole perspective will change.

        People who are yelling...are in pain.
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        • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
          Figure I should put this on a T shirt, only it'd be too long an' I'd trip over.

          I do try to be kind, but yeah, sometimes I get frazzled on frustration an' stuff so I hit on the snark and the flame more'n I should, an' then I can't shake it.

          Problem is, sometimes I'm right, which makes it such a stickler.

          An' you're right about evil also.

          Worst case scenario is that evryone else is capable of bein' as bad as we are when we're at our worst.

          I've met a few people I figure would knife ya soon as look at ya, but they don't populate every street, train, bar or park, certainly not as an organised mob intent on your demise.

          Gonna leave that to the CIA.

          All of which leads me to conclude that uncreatin' an emotion (however it got there) in terms of unlearnin' it prolly ain't gonna happen, but we can go find the mute button sometimes -- an' this gotta be true whatever emotion we pick on that flips us out over an' over.



          Ha! Frickin' emote ain't smilin' enough an' ill reflects my current feelomodus operandus.

          For some reason that's the funniest thing I seen all day.

          I demand a smilier smiley.

          LOL



          man this gets worse, it was there all the time.

          hey i am gonna pull a muscle here
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post


            I do try to be kind, but yeah, sometimes I get frazzled on frustration an' stuff so I hit on the snark and the flame more'n I should, an' then I can't shake it.

            Problem is, sometimes I'm right, which makes it such a stickler.
            Being right has nothing to do with emotions, pain, frustration. When you imagine the other person's pain...being right becomes immaterial.

            And if it makes you feel any better, one person is rarely right. In a fight, both people are different degrees of wrong. Nobody wins a fight. You can just be less beat up than the other guy.


            Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

            Worst case scenario is that evryone else is capable of bein' as bad as we are when we're at our worst.
            It takes two to really be at your worst. Just don't throw your gasoline on their fire.


            Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

            I've met a few people I figure would knife ya soon as look at ya, but they don't populate every street, train, bar or park, certainly not as an organised mob intent on your demise.
            Those people are extremely rare. Don't be where they are. And I've met people that would knife you as soon as look at you. Just don't give them a reason to want to knife you.


            Yes, I read a lot of Dear Abby when I was young.
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              I'd rather not un-create any emotions - because those emotions are part of me - they keep me real -
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            • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              And if it makes you feel any better, one person is rarely right. In a fight, both people are different degrees of wrong. Nobody wins a fight. You can just be less beat up than the other guy.
              Man, you pack a mean incendiary.

              I know you mean no harm here, and I figure there's plenty aikido in your Fu, but I'm havin' to take deep breaths on this point, tellya.

              *goin' live to hackles*

              *gonna pass*

              *uh huh, think we're gonna be ok*

              So hey, mebbe we get to swap T shirt slogans here.

              I'll keep what you said for my extended torso garment & swap ya an

              'I pack a mean incendiary'.

              It's not the kinda thing you'd wanna have out there on show alla the time, but if you wore it under a suit or pajamas, it could be strategically deployed to cool effect, I am sure.

              Writin' on my tab here an' I can't find the smilos so

              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Someone was trying to make a point but it makes my head hurt.
              Count yourself fortunate. I get this 24/7.

              ☺

              K, found the smilos now but they're all weird.

              This keyboard is runnin' on truncated loono chic.

              As is my uncreation of emotion right now.

              I may go flop out an' iron the carpet with my back.

              Sleep well, fellow hoomans.
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              • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
                One final bite on the cherry before this trail sinks into the swamp.

                And to help you through the grafitti salad, here's some chillout music.

                I figure it's preferable to the wailin' dolphins of which I am so fond durin' my weekly yoga splash.

                https://youtu.be/8UWYkCHwDlg

                I wanna focus in on the rise to anger or the fall to sadness — and the cool part inbetween.

                Here are two emotions mebbe we all got, which I think we can agree kinda hijack us from time to time: mad a-hole tries to run you down in the street, no more kisso with Guy X etc.

                Stoopid mares like me ride on anger for longer than we should, blind to it, compelled to view the world through its junko rose tints like that was the real color out there.

                An' mebbe you got sadness or some other thing, an' mebbe you can haul yourself out quicker, see that it will pass & hang on till it does and you are back to normal.

                (thx Claude)

                But I guess this is my point.

                If we all fly off from some even place from time to time, flights and troughs and burst and stutters an' all, then where is this place?

                And is it truly even?

                Wherever it is, whatever it is, we're describin' it in rational, conscious, controlly kinda terms — and I get that — but what is this place supposed to feel like?

                Is the neutral normal a kinda compulsion whose sense we can't register?

                Is this where the subtlest of the drownin' is goin' on?

                And is it even, yours and mine the same?

                I truly hope not, or AI already happened here.

                In a theoretical, philosophical way I hope we're all headed out there somehow, takin' those happy moments Claude mentioned wherever we find' 'em, an' seekin' not to re-create old monsters afresh in any kinda reactive storm.

                If we're not, we're all goin' to loon heaven in a hand cart, sparkin' in a cycle of extremes with no foot ever touchin' the ground.

                But if this even place is different for all of us, which I think that it is, and it persists from time to time without any kinda feelin' buzzin' alongside, then who's to say what we got is even?

                How do we know we ain't already buckin' the system somehow?

                Those are my thoughts right now, tossed as a salad I hope y'all wanna chomp on.

                If ur still lissnin' to the music, please be smilin'.

                K, gonna go fix my hair an' prepare for mortal combat with the forces of evil in a dark humor triumphs over all kinda way...
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    This is like reading graffiti.

    Someone was trying to make a point but it makes my head hurt.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Our emotions are directly linked to our survival instinct. We don't think about these - they happen at the subconscious level. What we learn is "safe" or "beneficial" will give us good emotions while those we see as "dangerous" will become bad emotion. This link is how slip programming is used to make us shy away from something via trigger words. Watch when someone says "conspiracy theory" how everyone starts tiptoeing around the subject. The very term "conspiracy theory" was created to be used as a tool for slip programming people to stay away from any subject that is dubbed with the term. Very handy for keeping school kids in line when learning national adherence.

    Anyway - we are hardwired to feel emotion, and those we feel have been hard-wired in by experience. Some people are deadly afraid of dogs, for example, because of a bad experience - while to others the animals are survival companions and friends.

    You can learn your way out of bad programming - reverse slip programming. You can also talk yourself out of some emotion by facing it intellectually over time - but you actually have to blow a circuit, to not feel anything for at least a few moments when a new event triggers an emotional response. You can control that emotion - and then deal with it to destroy the link toward a particular thing or circumstance. Until the link is destroyed in all your subconscious departments (survival, language, visiual, audio, etc) you will at least initially get that emotional response when faced with the stimulus.
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      You can learn your way out of bad programming - reverse slip programming.
      Hey -- sounds like a hi intensity gym workout.

      Thanks for your comments, Sal.

      I'm outta the door now but it's all processin', and kinda fits where I'm goin' when I wind down some.

      Yoga tonite so I'm hoping for a breakthrough.

      *new socks*

      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Until the link is destroyed in all your subconscious departments (survival, language, visiual, audio, etc) you will at least initially get that emotional response when faced with the stimulus.
      I got subconscious departments?

      Man, I figured it was just a blurry moosho in there.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post




        I got subconscious departments?

        Man, I figured it was just a blurry moosho in there.
        Nope - not unless you fry it on meth and then soak it in booze............
        or put it through a garlic press.
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    Can emotions be uncreated?

    Definitely. Why do you think the divorce rate is so high,
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      hi, you can make friends
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        Originally Posted by Applechan View Post

        hi, you can make friends

        Thanks, it's on my bucket list.
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        • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Thanks, it's on my bucket list.
          I jus' added a bucket to my bucket list in case I meet someone who squished their brains through a garlic press.

          Gotta be a good citizen.
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