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"The Play 2 " ? Incredible

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It don't matter if you don't know the first thing about football. Just incredible

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    Wow, they ran about for at least 30 seconds without stopping, such stamina these guys have.
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      Unfortunately, the refs missed 4 calls on the play and the entire officiating crew have been suspended.

      Duke wuzz robbed!

      Cheers. - Frank
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        Unfortunately, the refs missed 4 calls on the play and the entire officiating crew have been suspended.

        Duke wuzz robbed!

        Cheers. - Frank
        Yep I would be disgusted if I was Duke. Clearly a win for them
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          Yep I would be disgusted if I was Duke. Clearly a win for them
          Even more unfortunate, there is no way to vacate the outcome of the game and declare Duke the winner, once the teams have left the field. Nothing in their rules that provides for that.

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    Incredible. A game of football where the ball never touches anyone's feet.
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Incredible. A game of football where the ball never touches anyone's feet.
      It makes you wonder why the English called it "football" and called the other "soccer", doesn't it?
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        It makes you wonder why the English called it "football" and called the other "soccer", doesn't it?
        Begging your pardon? Of course your joking so
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          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          Begging your pardon? Of course your joking so
          No need to beg. I suggest researching the subject for yourself. What does it matter who named the games?


          I never understood why those that never played football feel a need to put it down. It's far better than the game where you run around doing nothing for a couple of hours, except for brief moments when someone becomes an actor trying to win an Oscar and pretends like someone did something bad to them to get a penalty "card".


          But only the "men". The women soccer players don't seem to feel the need to cheat by being drama queens and faking penalties.


          And what's up with that gimmick where you can't use your hands? It makes soccer the River Dancing of "sports".
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            No need to beg. I suggest researching the subject for yourself. What does it matter who named the games?


            I never understood why those that never played football feel a need to put it down. It's far better than the game where you run around doing nothing for a couple of hours, except for brief moments when someone becomes an actor trying to win an Oscar and pretends like someone did something bad to them to get a penalty "card".


            But only the "men". The women soccer players don't seem to feel the need to cheat by being drama queens and faking penalties.


            And what's up with that gimmick where you can't use your hands? It makes soccer the River Dancing of "sports".
            I'm sure you have never played the game (football) youself. I played for a team for several years in my youth. It's a rough game and physically exhausting after running around for 90 minutes continuously. Tackles can hurt, many bruises, the occasional kick in the crotch. Yep, in professional football you do get the occasional drama queen to overreact to a tackle to get a free kick or penalty. That's why the ref has to keep a sharp eye to make sure they are legit.

            I never followed any pro team, just enjoyed playing it. You can get some very skillful players and teamwork is important.

            It is as it is appropriately named in the UK: Football, a game played with the feet. The only time the ball is handled is for throw ins from the side, positioning for a penalty or free kick and of course the goal keeper can use hands provided he stays within his box.

            American football as it is called has minimal feet use. It's just a weird hybrid of British Rugby. They should call it American Rugby to be more accurate.
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              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

              I'm sure you have never played the game (football) youself.
              Mighty presumptuous dont ya think ?


              Anyway, I played a total of three years in soccer. One in pee wee. one in Middle School and one in Jr. High.

              Its a wonderful sport to play. My kids play and we love it.

              However, as far as watching ? professionally speaking ,I would rather watch paint dry than watch soccer. I watch the World Cup when US plays. Thats about it.

              Too subtle of a Sport for me to watch.

              Nothing beats watching real football with pads and helmets. Every play can be exciting

              Like I said soccer is a great sport to play, horrible entertainment to watch

              Dreadful.
              I understand why those hooligans in UK get drunk like a skunk. They have to have something to do to kill the boredom LOL
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                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Mighty presumptuous dont ya think ?
                If you read what he said it strongly suggests he could only have ever been an observer. I'm prepared to be wrong though, so Kurt???
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                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Like I said soccer is a great sport to play, horrible entertainment to watch
                The same could be said about every sport.
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                  Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                  The same could be said about every sport.
                  The same could be said about life.

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                  Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                  The same could be said about every sport.
                  Robert has an unique perspective because he's played both games and of course that's just his opinion.

                  American games like football, baseball and basketball are games in which someone could have an heart attack every 25-30 seconds because every 25-30 seconds there is a real chance that something important could happen.

                  So, if you grew up with game in which something could happen every 25-30 seconds and you then watch a game where you get maybe 10-15 exciting moments a game, soccer could be a hard game to watch as it is for me because IMHO they spend too much time in the game simply fighting over who has possession of the ball.

                  BTW...

                  I saw a Aussie Rules highlight in which the guy kicked the ball and another guy on his team caught the ball 40-50 yards - up the field in stride - going up the sideline for a score. It was fantastic! It reminded me of one of our long passes or bombs - but with the foot instead of via someone's arm. I'm sure that does not happen often.

                  Nothing personal but Aussie Rules football seems like in the middle of its transition away from British rugby - everybody just said F*** it, leave it like it is.

                  IMHO, the game is very cumbersome with the scrums as they fight for possession of the ball, but different strokes for different folks and you definitely have to be in shape for soccer and Aussie Rules because you are constantly moving. In American games except basketball you get a short break to catch your breath every 25-30 seconds before another play begins.

                  BTW...

                  The highlights from most team sports are very exciting to me. IMHO, a great play in most any sport is a great and good looking play- except maybe cricket.

                  I think a person's perspective on whether a sport is exciting or not is determined by what sport(s) they grew up with.


                  Questions about Aussie Rules Football:

                  Can any player kick the ball up field in hopes that his teammate will get to the ball before a player from another team gets the ball?

                  What are the different positions in the game?

                  Do you have a main triggerman like our QB?

                  You have something like a touchdown where a team moves the ball across the goal. What do you call it and how many points do you get for achieving it?

                  How are other points scored in the game?

                  I think you have something like a field goal in which a player must kick the ball through a goal. If so, how many points do you get for it?

                  Are the amount of points determined by how far the kick was from the goal?

                  Must the ball hit the ground before the player kicks it? (we call it a drop kick)

                  Or can they kick the ball before it hits the ground?

                  What about the timing of the game?

                  Do you have a halftime?

                  Are there quarters or just two halfs? Or do you split the game into three segments?
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                  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                    Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                    Nothing personal but Aussie Rules football seems like in the middle of its transition away from British rugby - everybody just said F*** it, leave it like it is.

                    IMHO, the game is very cumbersome with the scrums as they fight for possession of the ball,

                    You must be thinking of Rugby League, which is a variation of Rugby
                    Can any player kick the ball up field in hopes that his teammate will get to the ball before a player from another team gets the ball?
                    Yes, that's the whole purpose of the game.

                    What are the different positions in the game?
                    Three backs (left, centre, right)
                    Three half backs
                    Three centres
                    Three half forwards
                    Three forwards
                    Two players with no fixed position

                    Do you have a main triggerman like our QB?
                    Not really. There is a "tall" player who is known as a ruckman (one of the players with no fixed position) whose man job is to punch the ball to a team-mate during a ball-up. This is after a goal has been scored, at the start of each quarter, or when the ball gets locked up and can't be disposed of by the player in possession.
                    You have something like a touchdown where a team moves the ball across the goal. What do you call it and how many points do you get for achieving it?
                    No that's Rugby and Rugby League. Scoring in Aussie Rules is done by kicking the ball through a set of four poles at each end (the goal posts). If the ball is kicked through the two middle posts, it's called a goal and earns 6 points. If the ball is kicked between the outer and inner posts this is called a behind (don't ask me why), and that earns one point. A behind is also earned if the ball hitrs either of the inner posts or is touched by an opposition player on its way through. A typical score might be something like 15:10 (100). That means 15 goals (15*6) plus ten behinds to give a total score of 100 points.

                    How are other points scored in the game?
                    See above.

                    I think you have something like a field goal in which a player must kick the ball through a goal. If so, how many points do you get for it?
                    That's Rugby and Rugby League again.

                    Are the amount of points determined by how far the kick was from the goal?
                    Not in the proper season, however there is a pre-season tournament that allocates 9 points to goal kicked from more than 50 metres from the goal.
                    Must the ball hit the ground before the player kicks it? (we call it a drop kick)
                    No. There used to be a style of kick like that however it never occurs in the modern game.

                    Or can they kick the ball before it hits the ground?
                    See above.

                    What about the timing of the game?
                    Four quarters of 20 minutes each, plus stoppage time. It's not uncommon for a quarter to last more than 30 minutes though.

                    Do you have a halftime?
                    Yes, plus quarter time and three quarter time.

                    Are there quarters or just two halfs? Or do you split the game into three segments?
                    See above

                    I should add that there is a thing called a mark. This is where a player catches the ball kicked by another player (of either side) without the ball hitting the ground first, or having been touched by another player while in flight. The player who catches the ball is awarded a free kick.

                    As the purpose of the game is to keep free kick.the ball moving rather than possession, players can be penalised for running more than 15 metres carrying the ball. The player must bounce the ball, or dispose of it. If not the opposition
                    side gets a free kick.

                    If a plyer is tackled with the ball and doesn't dispose of it, he's penalised and a free kick goes to the opposition. However if the player is tackled in such a manner that he can't dispose of the ball, the umpire will perform a ball-up which is where the two opposing ruckmen come into play.

                    When a player is awarded a free kick, the umpire specicifes a point (also called a mark). This is the point hwere an opposition player must stand on or behind. If any opposition player including the one standing on the mark steps between the player taking the kick and the mark, or interferes with him in any way, the umpire will award a 40 metre penalty. This means that the mark is moved 50 metres closer to the goal and the mark is set there.

                    Tackles can only be made by grabbing the player between his shoulders and hips. Anything above or below earn a free kick.

                    Other things that earn a free kick include tackling a player not in possession of the ball, tripping and pushing, nudging or bumping a player in the back, although these are legal if done on the players front. This is what is commonly known as a "shirtfront"

                    A full list of the rules is here: AFL Rules - Laws of the Game - AFL.com.au

                    Also on that site there are a ton of videos of the game in action as well as there being a ton of them on YouTube.

                    Here's one showing how much of a contact sport it is and not a game for "pussies", including a number of "shirtfronts".spectacular marks (catches) and a few fights throwm in for good measure.

                    It should be noted that a lot of the incidents in the video resulted in free kicks to the "victims".

                    Enjoy.

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                    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                      Yes, that's the whole purpose of the game.

                      Three backs (left, centre, right)
                      Three half backs
                      Three centres
                      Three half forwards
                      Three forwards
                      Two players with no fixed position

                      Not really. There is a "tall" player who is known as a ruckman (one of the players with no fixed position) whose man job is to punch the ball to a team-mate during a ball-up. This is after a goal has been scored, at the start of each quarter, or when the ball gets locked up and can't be disposed of by the player in possession.
                      No that's Rugby and Rugby League. Scoring in Aussie Rules is done by kicking the ball through a set of four poles at each end (the goal posts). If the ball is kicked through the two middle posts, it's called a goal and earns 6 points. If the ball is kicked between the outer and inner posts this is called a behind (don't ask me why), and that earns one point. A behind is also earned if the ball hitrs either of the inner posts or is touched by an opposition player on its way through. A typical score might be something like 15:10 (100). That means 15 goals (15*6) plus ten behinds to give a total score of 100 points.

                      See above.

                      That's Rugby and Rugby League again.

                      Not in the proper season, however there is a pre-season tournament that allocates 9 points to goal kicked from more than 50 metres from the goal.
                      No. There used to be a style of kick like that however it never occurs in the modern game.

                      See above.

                      Four quarters of 20 minutes each, plus stoppage time. It's not uncommon for a quarter to last more than 30 minutes though.

                      Yes, plus quarter time and three quarter time.

                      See above

                      I should add that there is a thing called a mark. This is where a player catches the ball kicked by another player (of either side) without the ball hitting the ground first, or having been touched by another player while in flight. The player who catches the ball is awarded a free kick.

                      As the purpose of the game is to keep free kick.the ball moving rather than possession, players can be penalised for running more than 15 metres carrying the ball. The player must bounce the ball, or dispose of it. If not the opposition
                      side gets a free kick.

                      If a plyer is tackled with the ball and doesn't dispose of it, he's penalised and a free kick goes to the opposition. However if the player is tackled in such a manner that he can't dispose of the ball, the umpire will perform a ball-up which is where the two opposing ruckmen come into play.

                      When a player is awarded a free kick, the umpire specicifes a point (also called a mark). This is the point hwere an opposition player must stand on or behind. If any opposition player including the one standing on the mark steps between the player taking the kick and the mark, or interferes with him in any way, the umpire will award a 40 metre penalty. This means that the mark is moved 50 metres closer to the goal and the mark is set there.

                      Tackles can only be made by grabbing the player between his shoulders and hips. Anything above or below earn a free kick.

                      Other things that earn a free kick include tackling a player not in possession of the ball, tripping and pushing, nudging or bumping a player in the back, although these are legal if done on the players front. This is what is commonly known as a "shirtfront"

                      A full list of the rules is here: AFL Rules - Laws of the Game - AFL.com.au

                      Also on that site there are a ton of videos of the game in action as well as there being a ton of them on YouTube.

                      Here's one showing how much of a contact sport it is and not a game for "pussies", including a number of "shirtfronts".spectacular marks (catches) and a few fights throwm in for good measure.

                      It should be noted that a lot of the incidents in the video resulted in free kicks to the "victims".

                      Enjoy.

                      Aussie Rules AFL Hard Hits - YouTube

                      Thanks! I was confused by rugby. Your football looks like a fast moving game with lots of action.
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                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                I played a total of three years in soccer. One in pee wee. one in Middle School and one in Jr. High.

                Its a wonderful sport to play. My kids play and we love it.

                However, as far as watching ? professionally speaking ,I would rather watch paint dry than watch soccer. I watch the World Cup when US plays. Thats about it.

                Too subtle of a Sport for me to watch.

                Nothing beats watching real football. Every play can be exciting

                Like I said soccer is a great sport to play, horrible entertainment to watch

                Dreadful.
                I understand why those hooligans in UK get drunk like a skunk. They have to have something to do to kill the boredom LOL
                I watch the world cup games when UK teams are playing. I find it quite entertaining. However, there is the strong aspect of routing for your team to win which adds excitement. The most boring game to watch ever is Cricket, alright to play though.
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                  Like I said soccer is a great sport to play, horrible entertainment to watch
                  I was a goalie when I played so I got to experience both of those at the same time.
                  As for American football, it is played in Europe.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Football_League
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                    I was a goalie when I played so I got to experience both of those at the same time.
                    As for American football, it is played in Europe.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Football_League
                    FYI - London has formally petitioned the NFL for permission to submit an application for a permanent team in the league.

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                      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                      FYI - London has formally petitioned the NFL for permission to submit an application for a permanent team in the league.

                      Cheers. - Frank
                      Did not know that.
                      I know they have agreed to have games at Wimbledon(?) for the next ten years or so and are building a stadium for football that will start having games in around two years.
                      The Jacksonville Jaguars have asked to have at least one game in London every year.
                      Not that my opinion matters to the NFL but I like the idea.
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                        Did not know that.
                        That's why they call me Mr. Football, Thom. :-)
                        I know they have agreed to have games at Wimbledon(?) for the next ten years or so and are building a stadium for football that will start having games in around two years.
                        The Jacksonville Jaguars have asked to have at least one game in London every year.
                        Not that my opinion matters to the NFL but I like the idea.
                        Trust me - if there's a way to add to the billions in the NFL coffers, you'll live to see it.

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                          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                          That's why they call me Mr. Football, Thom. :-)
                          Trust me - if there's a way to add to the billions in the NFL coffers, you'll live to see it.

                          Cheers. - Frank
                          Which brings up the question.
                          How much profit can a non-profit make,
                          if a non-profit makes a huge profit.
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                            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

                            Which brings up the question.
                            How much profit can a non-profit make,
                            if a non-profit makes a huge profit.
                            The single, largest scam in America.

                            Seeing as how football is the most important thing in American society, no one cares. As long as the teams play - the NFL and it's players are incapable of wrongdoing in any way, shape or form.

                            Do you know that September was the first in the past 72 months that an NFL player has not been arrested? It's a fact. lol

                            Cheers. - Frank

                            P.S. And lets not forget the the Mizzou president and the next guy up the ladder both resigned because the team threatened not to play on Saturday. A bit too much power, me thinks.
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                              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

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                              Do you know that September was the first in the past 72 months that an NFL player has not been arrested? It's a fact. lol
                              Some would call that progress
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                                Some would call that progress
                                Well, I'm quite sure that is one NFL record that will never be broken. :-)

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                              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                              The single, largest scam in America.

                              Seeing as how football is the most important thing in American society, no one cares. As long as the teams play - the NFL and it's players are incapable of wrongdoing in any way, shape or form.

                              Do you know that September was the first in the past 72 months that an NFL player has not been arrested? It's a fact. lol

                              Cheers. - Frank

                              P.S. And lets not forget the the Mizzou president and the next guy up the ladder both resigned because the team threatened not to play on Saturday. A bit too much power, me thinks.
                              Are you sure? Hard to believe they went a whole month of no arrests.
                              Around here we call the NFL the National Felony League

                              A friend and I were just talking today about the Mizzou thing. College football is a power unto itself. Not saying it's right, but most colleges and universities wouldn't have any sports without football to support them.
                              Football is the only sport I follow or am interested in. But the NFL being non-profit is wrong on more levels then I care to think about.
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            It's far better than the game where you run around doing nothing for a couple of hours, except for brief moments when someone becomes an actor trying to win an Oscar and pretends like someone did something bad to them to get a penalty "card".


            But only the "men". The women soccer players don't seem to feel the need to cheat by being drama queens and faking penalties.


            And what's up with that gimmick where you can't use your hands? It makes soccer the River Dancing of "sports".
            Yeah in all fairness soccer is more than this. When you are playing it is actually very exhilarating and just a great sport to play. Lots of strategy and skill involved as well as great exercise !
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    Duke did get some bad (lack of) calls on the play. On the other hand, Duke could have made a tackle and taken it out of the refs' hands.
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    British English; Colloquial abbreviation for Association football, via abbreviation assoc. +‎ -er ‎(slang suffix); earlier socca (1889), then socker (1891), with soccer attested 1895.


    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soccer
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    Kurt is right about the origin of the word "soccer". However the only two places where it's called soccer and not football are Australia and America where both have their own indigenous codes of football. Of those two, only the Australian code actually uses the feet to move the ball around though
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Kurt is right about the origin of the word "soccer". However the only two places where it's called soccer and not football are Australia and America where both have their own indigenous codes of football. Of those two, only the Australian code actually uses the feet to move the ball around though

      In American football we use our feet to...

      1: Change Possession

      a: Punt
      b: Kickoff
      c: Free Kick


      2: Score Points

      a: Extra point - 1 extra point after a Touchdown is scored
      b: Field Goal - 3 points

      In an NFL football game there are about 120 plays from scrimmage and then there are another 20 or so plays in which the feet are used. So about 15% of the plays involve players using their feet.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        So about 15% of the plays involve players using their feet.
        Not much in other words. In Australian Football, the ball is not allowed to be thrown. Any throws result in a free kick to the opposing side. There is a play called a handpass, but that involves holding the ball in one hand and punching it with the other. Everything else is done by foot.

        BTW, the most common reaction by Americans who see Australian football for the first time is bewilderment as to why the players don't wear padding or helmets.
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    Great play accompanied by glaring errors by the officiating team...
    What you saw there was some good ol' Rugby style passing (Albeit with one hand), always wondered why they don't use the "lateral" more often in football but then i'm still new to the game...
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    Incredible? I watched the video and I'm guessing there's some kind of strategy involved but to me it just looked like a bunch of disorganised blokes chucking a ball about for a few seconds. Honestly if that's the best American football has to offer then you people are very easily pleased.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      Incredible? I watched the video and I'm guessing there's some kind of strategy involved but to me it just looked like a bunch of disorganised blokes chucking a ball about for a few seconds. Honestly if that's the best American football has to offer then you people are very easily pleased.
      LOL Obviously, you never have watched much Amercan Football have you? By your remark, I venture to guess you have NEVER seen even one play on regular 4 downs ? Come on admit it Don't be ashamed lol

      This play is extreme. This rarely happens.

      They do look discombobulated in this one play. Thats why it is incredible. And this one play makes up probably about .000000000001 percent of plays in the history of American Football.

      If you watched at least one game ( or even one down during the regulation of the game) you would understand this and realize the high strategy involved in this game .
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    I haven't ever watched a game. I tried but what I remember it was stop start, stop start, stop start. It bored the pants off me so I guess I've never seen one play on regular 4 downs. I haven't got a clue what that even means.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      I haven't ever watched a game. I tried but what I remember it was stop start, stop start, stop start. It bored the pants off me so I guess I've never seen one play on regular 4 downs. I haven't got a clue what that even means.

      Not a problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      I haven't ever watched a game. I tried but what I remember it was stop start, stop start, stop start. It bored the pants off me so I guess I've never seen one play on regular 4 downs. I haven't got a clue what that even means.
      Thats cool. Like what was said before different strokes for different folks.

      Lot of people think NBA is boring... Run and gun, run and gun.

      I guess some things are acquired taste
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Thats cool. Like what was said before different strokes for different folks.

        Lot of people think NBA is boring... Run and gun, run and gun.

        I guess some things are acquired taste
        Exactly!

        I know quite a few immigrants and many have tried to make fun of American sports while asking why soccer isn't more popular in this country.

        When they would start up, I always tell them that I am trying to be nice and they should stop criticizing what they don't understand but there's always that one or two that would test me. LOL!

        When forced to, I would easily tear into the lack of action in soccer which leads to all the singing etc., I would explain that Americans are used to getting our action every 25-35 seconds versus maybe 10-15 exciting moments a game in soccer and I would lighten up by saying that it's really about what people have grown up with.

        I was once forced to give my comedic impression of soccer (the fancy footwork, the headers, the fake injuries, the singing) in front of a whole group of immigrants (20-25 men, women and children) who laughed their buns offs.
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    I agree that a lot of football is boring. Watching most of the England internationals from since about the '86 world cup there's maybe 10 - 15 games that I would call properly exciting. Most of the time they're just ok. Even though we won every qualifying game for next years Euros there weren't really any exciting games, more just run of the mill.

    I prefer rugby, cricket, F1 to football anyway, and to be truthful I bet most rugby fans who watched the video above would have a good old chuckle to themselves. I think it's fair to say though that while Americas brought up on mutton the rest of us are enjoying lamb.
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