Power Your House For Free, it Is Possible!

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Ok, this is my stab, at the T-shirt and other Loot contest!

I was going to show this at a later date, but with a free t-shirt on the line, now, is better!

I built this at the start of the year, and eventhough it proves one of Tesslers ideas to be valid, it can't really be used for small applications, (can't lug a a couple of hundred of these things about to power a Laptop)?

But a house with well built substation, (brick shed) and a decent sized paddock to plant a few thousand antennas, sure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP6R...ature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/IP6R2MTepEA

Sorry, but it won't embed!


Then there is this guy, he managed to get 1 to 2 volts, but l could only get .02 - .05 volts, but l wasn't anywhere near a power line or other source, so that may have played a part?


The Schematic if you want to build one yourself?



And the shopping list.



Find your nearest electronic dealer, avoid ones near shopping centres, they usually overcharge. And get the closest part they have, the closer the better!

Here are some pictures, of my one, l didn't bother with the circuit board.







Pretty sure that the blue things are the Capacitors. This circuit is effectively drawing a tiny current from the air, which is from the sun, (some of the suns mass is present as energy, or a tiny part of the suns mass, is charged particles in our air).

So it draws it in, in much the same way as a crystal radio draws in sound waves without batteries. Then boosts it up as much as possible, and it shows up as a current!

True, that .05 isn't much, but built 10 and it goes to .50 or half a volt, (well, average is .35 volts).

Or build 100 of these simple circuits and it goes to, 3.50 volts, 1000 = 35.0 volts, and 8000 = 350 volts or power your house forever, (well, as long as the sun is there, or a few billion years).


This will run day or night, no more Solar panel, sun has to shine crap!


But driving long poles into the ground, or running this up a tree would probably substantially increase the volts!

You would also need a Solar Inverter, to keep the charge at 240 volts for a house.

Hmmm, maybe l need to get my "told you so, speech, dusted off"?

Here is some more info, if you are interested...

The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla - 07

Update Tesla's machine making electricity from air

This is similar to what Tessler used to power an electric car 80 miles on one charge, albeit simpler!

And yes, l have tested this over and over, it works, there is always a volt there, but l did try to hock it up to the tv Ariel, with no gains!

I would recommend to anyone who doesn't believe this works, to test it out themselves, that is why the YouTube video is unedited, or uncut, l didn't want anyone saying that the batteries are here or there crap, remember crystal radios work without batteries, so.....!

Thanks are appreciated!

  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    I give you my thanks for putting this post together but getting a little ambient energy from the atmosphere is well known but not worth pursuing for what it produces. I have seen a few vid's where people claim to get energy out of the ground and that looked more promising.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      I have seen a few vid's where people claim to get energy out of the ground and that looked more promising.
      e.g., This looks good; start at 14:05 if you just want to look at the geothermal energy extraction part:
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        I give you my thanks for putting this post together but getting a little ambient energy from the atmosphere is well known but not worth pursuing for what it produces. I have seen a few vid's where people claim to get energy out of the ground and that looked more promising.
        Yes, couldn't find the video with the pole in the ground producing 3 volts.

        Well, known, it can't be well known to the general public? Since if it was, we would be seeing farmers everywhere sinking these things into a large paddock, and getting off the grid for good?

        Electricity in AU, is about $1000 a quarter, and it seems that they are making up more ridiculous reasons to push it up regardless of how much you save.

        Remember this is taking the charge from minute particles from the sun in our atmosphere, so it runs constantly, as since there are no moving parts, it is relatively reliable.


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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          I give you thanks.

          We all need t-shirts.
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    Tagiscom,

    I hate to break it to you! This idea is ******VERY****** old and VERY common! Supposedly Tesla DID come up with the basic principle. THEN, apparently, a guy by the name of Marconi made it VERY popular! YEAH! Marconis idea was to run power through a device and generate magnetic radiation that would go to another device with a TANK CIRCUIT and have it drive everything. YEP, RADIO!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

    HEY, look far enough, and THIS radio has all the parts:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio


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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      In some places like where I live, people get a lot of sun so solar panels are practical, other places may have some sun but perhaps a lot more wind (like in Wooster)

      Ultimately though, it's a combination of these things and perhaps some as yet, unthought of ones that will get you off the grid.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    This will run day or night, no more Solar panel, sun has the shine crap!
    I tried reading those two pages, but after a while, they made my brain hurt, so I'll ask my (honest!!) questions here:

    1. I get that the amount of power generated with one circuit is tiny, but wouldn't longer wires, and more of them, and higher up, all combine to something worth pursuing?

    2. If the energy is coming from the Sun, why would this still run at night?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Tagiscom,

      I hate to break it to you! This idea is ******VERY****** old and VERY common! Supposedly Tesla DID come up with the basic principle. THEN, apparently, a guy by the name of Marconi made it VERY popular! YEAH! Marconis idea was to run power through a device and generate magnetic radiation that would go to another device with a TANK CIRCUIT and have it drive everything. YEP, RADIO!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

      HEY, look far enough, and THIS radio has all the parts:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio


      Steve
      Ok, ok, fair enough, we could both say that the person who came up with the crystal radio, was the original inventor?

      But just like Edison spun the bulb to make it practical, Tesslar did the same?

      I think that l remember the Professor on Gilligans Island using the radio as a way of communicating with the outside world. Not so far fetched, perhaps?

      Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

      I tried reading those two pages, but after a while, they made my brain hurt, so I'll ask my (honest!!) questions here:

      1. I get that the amount of power generated with one circuit is tiny, but wouldn't longer wires, and more of them, and higher up, all combine to something worth pursuing?
      Yes, a guy sunk a flag pole into the ground, and got about 3.5 volts from it, (sorry, it is a tough video to find). So, yes, building 8000 of them probably isn't necessary?

      I just used a working and tested model, to show that scaling could do it!

      Interestingly enough the small one above costed me about $3.50.

      So, taking into account bulk discounts, of $3.00 per unit, 8000 could be made for $24,000 AU!

      Well, taking the inverter into account, etc lets say $25k.

      And that you already have a structure?

      So, which is better, 20k, for a solar power setup, that takes 15 years to break even, and about 5 years of free power before they pack it in, and you have to buy them again?

      And they only work during the day, or....

      Spend 25k, on this and give up a paddock, then get free electricity for 15 years, with maybe a thousand for replacing some of them.

      And it is 24/7 power, not the solar one!

      Compare that with almost 4k a year for electricity, and this becomes a viable alternative, especially after 5 years!


      2. If the energy is coming from the Sun, why would this still run at night?
      Arrr, no, l haven't made myself clear, the sun puts out vast amounts of electrically charged particles from its surface.

      The mass is tiny, (l haven't researched that part, but it is probably in atoms) but these are charged with electricity, and are in our air.

      I am still learning about it, but this site explains it better!

      Most of the northern lights we see originate in the electrons accelerated into the ionosphere. These electrons give energy to atoms in the ionosphere (such as nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen). These atoms quickly decay back into the normal (ground) energy state, and photons are released. These photons create the northern lights.
      After 2-5 days' travel trough space, the plasma from the sun reaches the earth's magnetic field compressing it on the daylight side of the earth, and stretches it into a 'tail' on the night side. Most, however, are forced around the earth by the magnetic field and enter the 'tail'.
      What happens to the charged particles which came from the sun after they hit the atmosphere of the earth?

      So, the earth is pushing these charged particles around the earth from the sun, so it doens't matter if it is daylight or not!

      I think that Solar Panels, use the suns radiation to create a reaction that generates electricity, but yeah, power companies are fine with it, since it is a piece of junk when the sun goes down!

      Wind same thing, get an overcast day with no wind and they are both useless.

      It amazes me how we can have a landscape of ugly wind turbines on the horizion, witch sit idle a few weeks out of the year, and not have a landscape of silver poles instead!

      Much cheaper, doesn't kill off bird life, no moving parts, so reliability is higher and doesn't burst into flames!

      Seems like we are so addicted to oil, that it is too painful to consider viable options like this?

      Or others will see this and think, gee, l could do this?


      A person that is good with his hands, can't recreate a nuclear powerplant of Fission plant in their backyard. Well, not without getting carted off to prison or sending all of the tv, within a block or so haywire?

      But a few thousand poles in the ground and a "See Spot Run" circuit, an 8 year old could probably do it?

      The powers that be, will sink billions into new ways to generate electricity, which cannot be recreated in your backyard!

      So, they keep their greedy profits, and we suffer!

      Well, pensioners getting their power cut off in Australia is on the increase, disguisting is more accurate!

      But they can always use candles, at least til their house burns down, (that happens quite a lot also)!

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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Ok, ok, fair enough, we could both say that the person who came up with the crystal radio, was the original inventor?

        But just like Edison spun the bulb to make it practical, Tesslar did the same?

        I think that l remember the Professor on Gilligans Island using the radio as a way of communicating with the outside world. Not so far fetched, perhaps?



        Yes, a guy sunk a flag pole into the ground, and got about 3.5 volts from it, (sorry, it is a tough video to find). So, yes, building 8000 of them probably isn't necessary?

        I just used a working and tested model, to show that scaling could do it!

        Interestingly enough the small one above costed me about $3.50.

        So, taking into account bulk discounts, of $3.00 per unit, 8000 could be made for $24,000 AU!

        Well, taking the inverter into account, etc lets say $25k.

        And that you already have a structure?

        So, which is better, 20k, for a solar power setup, that takes 15 years to break even, and about 5 years of free power before they pack it in, and you have to buy them again?

        And they only work during the day, or....

        Spend 25k, on this and give up a paddock, then get free electricity for 15 years, with maybe a thousand for replacing some of them.

        And it is 24/7 power, not the solar one!

        Compare that with almost 4k a year for electricity, and this becomes a viable alternative, especially after 5 years!


        Arrr, no, l haven't made myself clear, the sun puts out vast amounts of electrically charged particles from its surface.

        The mass is tiny, (l haven't researched that part, but it is probably in atoms) but these are charged with electricity, and are in our air.

        I am still learning about it, but this site explains it better!

        What happens to the charged particles which came from the sun after they hit the atmosphere of the earth?

        So, the earth is pushing these charged particles around the earth from the sun, so it doens't matter if it is daylight or not!

        I think that Solar Panels, use the suns radiation to create a reaction that generates electricity, but yeah, power companies are fine with it, since it is a piece of junk when the sun goes down!

        Wind same thing, get an overcast day with no wind and they are both useless.

        It amazes me how we can have a landscape of ugly wind turbines on the horizion, witch sit idle a few weeks out of the year, and not have a landscape of silver poles instead!

        Much cheaper, doesn't kill off bird life, no moving parts, so reliability is higher and doesn't burst into flames!

        Seems like we are so addicted to oil, that it is too painful to consider viable options like this?

        Or others will see this and think, gee, l could do this?


        A person that is good with his hands, can't recreate a nuclear powerplant of Fission plant in their backyard. Well, not without getting carted off to prison or sending all of the tv, within a block or so haywire?

        But a few thousand poles in the ground and a "See Spot Run" circuit, an 8 year old could probably do it?

        The powers that be, will sink billions into new ways to generate electricity, which cannot be recreated in your backyard!

        So, they keep their greedy profits, and we suffer!

        Well, pensioners getting their power cut off in Australia is on the increase, disguisting is more accurate!

        But they can always use candles, at least til their house burns down, (that happens quite a lot also)!

        The price of solar panels is dropping fast so anyone with a bit of electrical knowledge could do it for themselves, batteries of course can be incorporated store the energy for usage when the suns not out.

        Here is a short vid I found that claims one kilowatt from the ground, I saw a much better one a while back but cannot locate it at the moment.

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          The price of solar panels is dropping fast so anyone with a bit of electrical knowledge could do it for themselves, batteries of course can be incorporated store the energy for usage when the suns not out.

          Here is a short vid I found that claims one kilowatt from the ground, I saw a much better one a while back but cannot locate it at the moment.
          Thanks, the video is impressive if genuine. I kilowatt, that is a thousand volts, l think?

          Yes Tessler also used two metal plates to generate a current, but l am staying with the one l tested, since it does work, and can be replicated by anyone here, that doesn't belief it!

          It seems that all of the skeptics that l had discussions or arguments with in the past about this sort of thing, are steering clear, sigh, and l had my "Told You So" speech on standby?


          Prices are dropping fast, hmmmm, yes, l had a look and it is cheaper for solar panels for a house.

          Still a dog, but some of the fleas have left!


          A farmer, etc should only consider my one, since it is more reliable than a battery or direct sunshine or wind turbine.


          But l agree that a normal residential address probably cannot use it, (not enough room)?

          Obviously something more compact is needed?


          No oil rich soiopaths have shown up here either, to tell us we are all nuts, maybe there is hope for the world?

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          • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            Pretty sure that the blue things are the Capacitors.
            Correct. Your wiring follows the schematic precisely.

            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            I kilowatt, that is a thousand volts, l think?
            A kilowatt is a thousand watts.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

              Correct. Your wiring follows the schematic precisely.



              A kilowatt is a thousand watts.
              Close but no cigar, although in AU, there is no place left to smoke it!

              Glad l got the schematic right, l took great pains to get it accurate, since l am new to electronics, and had to learn it all from scratch.

              Some advise from a small electronics store helped me a lot as well, although the guy behind the counter couldn't figure out what it was?

              Had to keep saying that is was a crystal radio, more or less!

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Tagiscom,

    Ironically, FARADAY is the guy that probably has the most to do with THIS device, now that I think about it.

    It works on a principle faraday defined and demonstrated. That is when a magnetic field cuts through a coil, it generates power at either end. I say it is IRONIC, because JOSEPH HENRY has HIS name on the unit of INDUCTANCE, which is what I just described. FARADAY, however, has HIS name on the unit of CAPACITANCE(uF=Micro FARAD(ay)), which is ALSO needed for this product. The coil collects the power, and the capacitors store it until you use it, for a while at least,

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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    i am fully self sufficient using solar and wind

    the excess goes to bitcoin mining

    it is fully paid for now

    dont let the sun catch you crying
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

      i am fully self sufficient using solar and wind

      the excess goes to bitcoin mining

      it is fully paid for now

      dont let the sun catch you crying
      Well, that is good, but when the solar panels pack it in?

      But it shouldn't be that difficult to find this thread again?

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        but when the solar panels pack it in?
        Replace them.

        When that happens the cost of solar panels will probably be so cheap as to not even merit being called an inconvenience. The panels of the future will undoubtedly be far better performing as well, so he might replace them long before they've packed it in.

        There, that non-problem was easy to solve.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Well, that is good, but when the solar panels pack it in?

        But it shouldn't be that difficult to find this thread again?

        Solar cells work for 20-25 years.


        If there's no sun, Ray said he also has wind. When there's no sun or wind, you use batteries that store electricity when there was sun and/or wind. When the batteries are low and there's no sun or wind, use a generator or the grid.


        You should tell Elon Musk about this energy system. I'm sure he's never heard of it before. Just think of what it would do for his sales of electric cars.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Well, that is good, but when the solar panels pack it in?

        But it shouldn't be that difficult to find this thread again?

        20 years free power, i reckon i can afford to replace them
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Replace them.

      When that happens the cost of solar panels will probably be so cheap as to not even merit being called an inconvenience. The panels of the future will undoubtedly be far better performing as well, so he might replace them long before they've packed it in.

      There, that non-problem was easy to solve.
      Maybe!

      For the sake or argument they, (solar panels) drop to 18k, to replace the lot.

      Which is better for a farmer, spend another 18 thousand or spend $1000 on making sure all of the Tessler circuits are operational?

      I can't believe that people are defending solar panels, when for the sake of a few thousand more, you get something that runs indefinitely, and NEVER needs to be completely replaced!

      But inverters don't last forever, so that would need to be completely replaced every 20 years or so.

      And battery's can be used, but they don't last and eventually lose their storage capacity.

      I suppose that there is comfort in a dog with flies?


      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Solar cells work for 20-25 years.


      If there's no sun, Ray said he also has wind. When there's no sun or wind, you use batteries that store electricity when there was sun and/or wind. When the batteries are low and there's no sun or wind, use a generator or the grid.


      You should tell Elon Musk about this energy system. I'm sure he's never heard of it before. Just think of what it would do for his sales of electric cars.
      Never heard of it, l doubt it. He would probably unofficially throw in a hojo generator in the boot, so his cars with run indefinitely.

      He just created a product that the oil company's could handle! But if it ran indefinitely, he wouldn't be giving that speech?

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
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        Ok, but you still need to replace it every 10 years.

        18k of solar panels every 20 years and 3.5k with this every 10!


        Cool fleas, but.....!

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        I can't believe that people are defending solar panels
        I can't believe that someone who claims to have a free source of energy that is cheaper than solar hasn't hooked up their own house to this system.

        Doesn't it bother you that Nikolai Tesla couldn't get it to work, and neither has anyone else? If it worked millions of people around the world would be using it now. In fact they'd have been using it for over a century.

        Anyway, you made a claim, now it's time to prove it. Show us a video of your (or anyone else's) home powered by this technique.

        Unless you're willing to invest a pittance to prove your belief works, you're never going to convince anyone else.
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        I suppose that there is comfort in a dog with flies?
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          I can't believe that someone who claims to have a free source of energy that is cheaper than solar hasn't hooked up their own house to this system.

          Doesn't it bother you that Nikolai Tesla couldn't get it to work, and neither has anyone else? If it worked millions of people around the world would be using it now. In fact they'd have been using it for over a century.

          Anyway, you made a claim, now it's time to prove it. Show us a video of your (or anyone else's) home powered by this technique.

          Unless you're willing to invest a pittance to prove your belief works, you're never going to convince anyone else.
          Well, l already have, go back to the top and watch the video l did!!!!!!

          It won't embed, so l could only post the link!

          If l can get .02-.05 of a volt with this, then it CAN BE SCALED UP!

          And Tesla did make this work, well the car one was the closest to the one l used. But he has several different versions.

          I also believe that the tower, that Eisenhower funded, was using this on a vast scale, but was demolished, because as Eisenhower stated, "it couldn't be metered"!

          Or just go and Google Texas oil field videos, and see first hand why anything like this has been suppressed for a good hundred years. This tech, destabilizes global power economies too much, so unless it becomes viral, it is buried!


          But if you think l have a battery up my sleeve, then there is nothing l can say that will convince you, apart from building it yourself and proving it yourself!

          This isn't fake it is real, and it works every time day or night!


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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            If l can get .02-.05 of a volt with this, then it CAN BE SCALED UP!
            Then scale it up and power your home with it. Prove that it works. Not to me. To the world.

            I also believe that the tower, that Eisenhower funded, was using this on a vast scale, but was demolished, because as Eisenhower stated, "it couldn't be metered"!
            The Wardenclyffe Tower was built in 1901. At that time Dwight D Eisenhower was only 11 years old. Quite amazing that at that young age he was financing such a project.

            The tower itself was built to transmit radio and telephony signals around the world, and on that basis it did indeed work. Secretly Tesla also wanted it to be used for free energy generation, but that part of its purpose never did work.

            There is probably more bullshit on the internet about Tesla than just about anyone else. He was indeed a genius who invented what we call alternating current (AC), but his theories on free energy generation remain just that - theories.

            Or just go and Google Texas oil field videos, and see first hand why anything like this has been suppressed for a good hundred years
            I don't need to do that. I live in a country where the fossil fuel industry (coal) is doing everything it can to shut down anything that competes with it.

            Until such time as someone can produce a working model of the system you espouse that can fully power a home, office or factory it will remain a theory. We can no longer afford to chase dreams however, we need solutions that have been tried, tested and work now. These aren't limited to solar. Other methods include wind, wave power and geothermal.

            As far as your efforts producing 0.2-0.5 volts, I can produce more than that by combing my hair. Should I scale that up to power the world?

            There is currently over a quarter of a trillion dollars being invested in alternative forms of energy generation around the world. None of it is going into your method. I wonder why that is.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              "As far as your efforts producing 0.2-0.5 volts, I can produce more than that by combing my hair. Should I scale that up to power the world?"

              Claude has the head size for that but unfortunately not the hair.
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                Then scale it up and power your home with it. Prove that it works. Not to me. To the world.
                I don't live on a farm, and l certainly don't have 25k. But l would if l could!


                The Wardenclyffe Tower was built in 1901. At that time Dwight D Eisenhower was only 11 years old. Quite amazing that at that young age he was financing such a project.
                Ok, sorry, wrong one?

                The tower itself was built to transmit radio and telephony signals around the world, and on that basis it did indeed work. Secretly Tesla also wanted it to be used for free energy generation, but that part of its purpose never did work.

                There is probably more bullshit on the internet about Tesla than just about anyone else. He was indeed a genius who invented what we call alternating current (AC), but his theories on free energy generation remain just that - theories.
                Ok, we will leave that up in the air?


                I don't need to do that. I live in a country where the fossil fuel industry (coal) is doing everything it can to shut down anything that competes with it.

                Until such time as someone can produce a working model of the system you espouse that can fully power a home, office or factory it will remain a theory. We can no longer afford to chase dreams however, we need solutions that have been tried, tested and work now. These aren't limited to solar. Other methods include wind, wave power and geothermal.

                As far as your efforts producing 0.2-0.5 volts, I can produce more than that by combing my hair. Should I scale that up to power the world?

                There is currently over a quarter of a trillion dollars being invested in alternative forms of energy generation around the world. None of it is going into your method. I wonder why that is.
                Because ONLY non oil threatening, green methods are allowed to be developed commercially!

                The guy in AU, that showed his one on A Current Affair, tried to develop it commercially, and got several backers, but they all disappeared, (probably after realizing that it would be blocked).

                This was for a spinning brush version that ramped up the volts, so it wasn't free energy, but it did put out more than it used.

                And it could power a house.

                He showed it to one skeptic after another, and they all walked away convinced.

                But in the end, since the original inventor sank his money into the project, and couldn't get backers, he sold it to the Australian Government.

                The Au gov, then used it for remote and military purposes ONLY!


                But at least in AU, the gov, will buy it out, overseas in the US, they resort to bullying, threats, and other unpleasant methods.

                100 trillion in oil is a strong reason!


                .035 of a volt isn't much, LOL, build 8000 of them, and it is!


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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Tagiscom,

    You said it created more power than it used. HOW did they prove that? Many "Inverters" for example, put out FAR more voltage than they take in, but they actually put out less POWER. CARS are the same! Even ATOM BOMBS are the same! Atom bombs seem so powerful because they try to release all their energy at once.

    We are ALSO skipping over a point. A LOT of the energy you get is from the power plant. It is from noise, and products run from, or charged by the powerplant, So if you turned off all power plants, the power you get would drop substantially. I LOVE how people keep forgetting to look at the ORIGINAL source. If phone companies shut down, HUGE chunks of the internet would just STOP working! WHY? Because the phone system is a MAJOR backbone! Do you REALLY think it just MAGICALLY appeared?

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Tagiscom,

      You said it created more power than it used. HOW did they prove that? Many "Inverters" for example, put out FAR more voltage than they take in, but they actually put out less POWER. CARS are the same! Even ATOM BOMBS are the same! Atom bombs seem so powerful because they try to release all their energy at once.
      No, l did research this guy to death a while ago, to see what happened. He had a very promising product that converted anyone who had a look.

      And he also spend a good 10 years developing it. He had fire issues with the contact to the motor, and developed something else. Since this is churning out 240volts day and night.

      He never shared exactly how it was done, only that it was not free, but it was more of, put in some volts get enough back to power a house indefinitely, and maintain the speed.

      So, tech, it wasn't free, but it still acted like it?

      But as l already said, our gov, has it, and isn't sharing!!!

      Our gov, isn't going to buy something that doesn't work????

      Some here, should have a long, hard think about that fact!


      I personally thought that it was a spin on a Ho Jo motor. Difficult do build, but get it right, and it will run for a few hundred years.

      We are ALSO skipping over a point. A LOT of the energy you get is from the power plant. It is from noise, and products run from, or charged by the powerplant, So if you turned off all power plants, the power you get would drop substantially. I LOVE how people keep forgetting to look at the ORIGINAL source. If phone companies shut down, HUGE chunks of the internet would just STOP working! WHY? Because the phone system is a MAJOR backbone! Do you REALLY think it just MAGICALLY appeared?

      Steve
      Hmmmm, good point. We would be adding to charging the atmosphere, which should mean the volts on the Tessler circuit should be higher at night?

      But l have tried it at night as well, no, difference.


      And in my video, l was a good 5 to 10 metres from any house electrical wires, (most of my testing was done inside, which was probably 20 or more metres away).

      And l don't live anywhere near a generator or electrical substation or powerplant.

      I believe that the bulk of the energy is coming from the atmosphere.

      I don't really understand the phone reference, unless you are saying that turning off the power would make this ineffective?

      I don't believe that to be the case, otherwise there would be obvious inconsistencies within established parameters?


      I think that any reasonably intelligent member reading this would see, that there is something to it, by now?

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    A capacitor releases all it's energy very fast unlike a battery. That's why you'll see a capacitor on electric motors for appliances, to start the motor at a fast speed, kind of like a starter on an ICE.

    I didn't read the whole thread but instead of powering a house have you proven something simple like power for a TV or clock radio?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

      20 years free power, i reckon i can afford to replace them
      No, l said after you pay them off, you will get 5 or 7 years of free energy.

      Tesslers circuit runs indefinitely.

      Since each of of these, is drawing in very little current, l suspect that they would last a long time. I am not an electronics expert, but Voyager has gone for almost 40 years, and still kicking.


      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      A capacitor releases all it's energy very fast unlike a battery. That's why you'll see a capacitor on electric motors for appliances, to start the motor at a fast speed, kind of like a starter on an ICE.

      I didn't read the whole thread but instead of powering a house have you proven something simple like power for a TV or clock radio?
      No, when l realized the restrictions and cost, of Tesslers circuit, l stopped that line of research!

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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        [QUOTE=tagiscom;10419293]No, l said after you pay them off, you will get 5 or 7 years of free energy.

        they are paid for, as i use the excess power to mine bitcoin, which has been prudently traded and accumulated

        and i have never had to go to the grid for power - must be doing something right
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          [quote=hardraysnight;10419637]
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          No, l said after you pay them off, you will get 5 or 7 years of free energy.

          they are paid for, as i use the excess power to mine bitcoin, which has been prudently traded and accumulated

          and i have never had to go to the grid for power - must be doing something right
          Well, fair enough for you, but l doubt that the average farmer is going to do that, or could?

          Or that the average consumer is happy to p*** away 20k every 20 years when they don't have to?

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          • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
            [quote=tagiscom;10419898]
            Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post


            Well, fair enough for you, but l doubt that the average farmer is going to do that, or could?

            Or that the average consumer is happy to p*** away 20k every 20 years when they don't have to?

            but many are

            look at the sale of solar panels, anywhere in the world
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              [quote=hardraysnight;10421124]
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


              but many are

              look at the sale of solar panels, anywhere in the world
              Best to explain it to us then, since l don't know what bitcoin is? Sounds like virtual money?

              Just as long as anyone could do this, then it does, remove the cost, but the yanking of panels still remains.

              If it is the usual have to have a magic wand to pull it off, deal, and most online can't do it, then it doesn't remove the cost?

              Anyone who is considering solar, and goes Tessler, can put wires or poles in the ground, and build a substation.

              Well, anyone with a paddock?

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              • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                Best to explain it to us then, since l don't know what bitcoin is? Sounds like virtual money?
                I'll take a stab at this. Bear in mind, I'm definitely not an expert, but this is something that I've looked at with some interest over recent months.

                Yes, bitcoin is virtual currency. One can generate ("mine") new bitcoins, (thus earning income), by solving ever-increasingly-difficult math problems.

                While one can mine using off-the-shelf computers, it's no longer cost-efficient to do so, and thus there is a market in machines which are specialized to such mining.

                Once one has purchased the equipment, the primary expense is in electricity to run it, as well as to cool it. Given that the level of mining difficulty keeps increasing, and that bitcoin value fluctuates, not everyone nets a profit doing this.

                The idea of using "excess" solar power (or something similar) is that it's effectively "free", which should mean that one can earn some level of profit by converting it to bitcoin, (ignoring the rather substantial initial costs).

                While this all sounds good, it seems that the people who have actually tried it say that, while it does make money, it's not very much. My personal concern would be that it might take a very long time just to break even on the initial equipment purchases.
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