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Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900′s World News Daily Report


A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900′s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing giants human remains in the tens of thousands had been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.
  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by IndianaJones View Post

    Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900′s World News Daily Report


    A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900′s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing giants human remains in the tens of thousands had been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.
    This article was written in 2014. Any updates on it all?
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      Thanks, that puts that one to bed.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Thanks, that puts that one to bed.
        Or you could just go to the site's disclaimer page:

        Information contained in this World News Daily Report website is for information and entertainment purposes only.
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        • Profile picture of the author IndianaJones
          I grabbed that information off of a website that has a similar name to one that is trustworthy. Because I mistook this website for the one that has trustworthy news, I thought maybe it had something we should read and think about.

          Obviously that site may not be trustworthy as it is a different website than I had assumed.



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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            This simply confirms my belief that people will believe anything. There is no limit to human gullibility. It's astounding.

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              This simply confirms my belief that people will believe anything. There is no limit to human gullibility. It's astounding.

              Cheers. - Frank
              To me, it's even worse than that. I have a very difficult time believing that anyone believes these incredibly insane ideas.

              You can call it "second generation skepticism". Not only don't I believe the claims, I need extraordinary proof that the person spouting this nonsense believes it themselves.

              And that's why I treat most things as a joke.

              My son and I were discussing giantism. Why couldn't someone be 20 feet tall? 36 feet tall?

              Because we are three dimensional. The taller we are, the more we weigh,
              exponentially.

              The difference between a 6 foot man and a 12 foot man? The twelve foot man would be twice as tall, four times as strong, but weigh eight times more than the six foot man.

              It's why gymnasts are smaller people. The larger you are, the more pressure, per square inch, on your skeleton there is. The longer the bones, the worse the leverage. The longer the circulatory system, the harder the heart has to pump to circulate blood.

              Every giant over 7 1/2 feet tall died very young. Most can't even walk in middle age.
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                To me, it's even worse than that. I have a very difficult time believing that anyone believes these incredibly insane ideas.

                You can call it "second generation skepticism". Not only don't I believe the claims, I need extraordinary proof that the person spouting this nonsense believes it themselves.

                And that's why I treat most things as a joke.

                My son and I were discussing giantism. Why couldn't someone be 20 feet tall? 36 feet tall?

                Because we are three dimensional. The taller we are, the more we weigh,
                exponentially.

                The difference between a 6 foot man and a 12 foot man? The twelve foot man would be twice as tall, four times as strong, but weigh eight times more than the six foot man.

                It's why gymnasts are smaller people. The larger you are, the more pressure, per square inch, on your skeleton there is. The longer the bones, the worse the leverage. The longer the circulatory system, the harder the heart has to pump to circulate blood.

                Every giant over 7 1/2 feet tall died very young. Most can't even walk in middle age.
                If a race of giants ever existed, it would be from a suitably made up, native, giant sized hominoid lineage, ideally proportioned in bone density, strength and organ structure.

                Not from the occasional freak human that is based on our current genetic makeup and organ/bone arrangements.

                Sometimes I wonder.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                To me, it's even worse than that. I have a very difficult time believing that anyone believes these incredibly insane ideas.

                You can call it "second generation skepticism". Not only don't I believe the claims, I need extraordinary proof that the person spouting this nonsense believes it themselves.

                And that's why I treat most things as a joke.
                I can totally believe that someone spent 300k on looking like Jabba the Hutt. He`s like Tony Montana for fat people.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Early 1900's my lily white ass. I know an archaeologist who found 3 skeletons between 8 and 9 feet tall. I used to have pics of them that I lost in my hard drive crash. Unfortunately the Smithsonian strong armed him into giving them the skeletons and they seem to have "disappeared" with no clue of where they might have gone.

    The Smithsonian is the worst offender of history destruction to keep the status quos view of history and natural science. I'd kill to get into that cave of artifacts that the gov closed off in the Grand Canyon. They called that "myth", too - unfortunately, they missed a few small papers that carried the story when they did the info cleanse. Another thing you won't see that I know for a fact is real, is the artifacts that were found under a layer of volcanic ash out in Washington. That ash is hundreds of thousands of years old. Now how did those artifacts get there? We'll never know because the Smithsonian denies any knowledge of it.

    When Fitz's crew discovered artifacts at 10 feet below surface in WY, they were told they couldn't have come from there. He said, well they did come from there so lets start with that fact. The authorities refused to authenticate them.........didn't even much look at them - and just continued to prattle on about how they couldn't have come from where his team actually found them. They ended up melting down gold artifacts because they ended up worthless for anything but the gold because nobody could get their head open to the fact that it's okay when new info comes through and none of the authorities will be discredited for what they had put out as the "authoritative word" at an earlier date.

    I love science - but, apparently, to get to know anything about it, you have to have friends who you can talk to around the gov editing.
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    It could be possible humans were a lot larger in the past. I'm not saying it happened but look at dinosaurs, a lot of those were pretty damn big, granted they're no longer around. I've never seen a giant skeleton & even If I did I wouldn't know how to prove it was real bone.

    I have four miniature horses, there only about 3ft tall, my neighbor has regular size horses that are about 6ft tall. My point is they're both horses & one is half the size as the other.

    Miniature horses are basically man made:

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    The Falabella horse was originally developed in Argentina from local horses of Criollo stock, beginning in 1868 with the breeding program of Patrick Newtall. When Newtall died, the herd and breeding methods were passed to Newtall's son-in-law, Juan Falabella. Juan added additional bloodlines, including the Welsh Pony, Shetland pony, and small Thoroughbreds. With considerable inbreeding, he was able to gain consistently small size within the herd.
    Before anyone goes off on a humans are evil rant about the horse inbreeding, animal inbreeding can just as easily happen on it's own in the wild. Look at cats & rabbits, they inbreed like crazy.

    Next we have climate change, I've seen several sources claim animals shrink based on a stressful climate. So, If animals & plants shrink I have no doubts humans can also shrink over thousands of years.

    The world is a constantly changing place.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Miniature horses are so cute - love the Amazon TV commercial featuring a mini horse.

      Everything we've found from ancient history seems to indicate humans have gotten larger...not smaller.

      Stories like that attract those who are anxious to find "proof" that govt or agencies are lying to us, hiding things from us, have damaged us in some way. Guess if you have to make up the stories...maybe you need a new hobby.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Guess if you have to make up the stories...maybe you need a new hobby.
        That's disappointing to read. I was thinking of starting a WND style site just so I could make up stories. I can see the headlines now...
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Miniature horses are so cute - love the Amazon TV commercial featuring a mini horse.

        Everything we've found from ancient history seems to indicate humans have gotten larger...not smaller.

        Stories like that attract those who are anxious to find "proof" that govt or agencies are lying to us, hiding things from us, have damaged us in some way. Guess if you have to make up the stories...maybe you need a new hobby.

        NO! All this fossil evidence can be thrown out! I saw a Youtube video.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It could be possible humans were a lot larger in the past. I'm not saying it happened but look at dinosaurs
      I was wondering if someone would bring that up. Take a two legged huge dinosaur, the T-Rex. Look at the thigh bones, they are immensely thick, and denser than human bone.

      And the proportions are different. Humans carry much of their weight in their upper body.

      The T-Rex carried most of its weight in its legs and tail.

      But humans? That look like humans only 20 feet tall? They simply wouldn't be able to stand up, without their hips and legs breaking.

      Just Google any past verified giant. You'll see all kinds of physical problems, even at 20 years old. And none of these people were even 9 feet tall.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I was wondering if someone would bring that up. Take a two legged huge dinosaur, the T-Rex. Look at the thigh bones, they are immensely thick, and denser than human bone.

        And the proportions are different. Humans carry much of their weight in their upper body.

        The T-Rex carried most of its weight in its legs and tail.

        But humans? That look like humans only 20 feet tall? They simply wouldn't be able to stand up, without their hips and legs breaking.

        Just Google any past verified giant. You'll see all kinds of physical problems, even at 20 years old. And none of these people were even 9 feet tall.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow



        Lol, I'll be nice...

        Explain a regular large horse vs a miniature horse. I'll explain, same thing scaled down.

        I assure you my four miniature horses can stand up on their own, sometimes they even run across the field [shocking]. I've also noticed my neighbors large horses standing & running on their own [shocking].

        Both the horses in the videos below are each two years old.















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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Lol, I'll be nice...

          Explain a regular large horse vs a miniature horse. I'll explain, same thing scaled down.

          I assure you my four miniature horses can stand up on their own, sometimes they even run across the field [shocking]. I've also noticed my neighbors large horses standing & running on their own [shocking].
          Yukon...Whoever you really are.

          Are you serious? Nobody is making the claim that smaller versions can't exist.

          Of course, you can make them smaller. In fact, the smaller the animal, the more mobile. The greater the strength per pound. Nobody made a claim that miniature horses (or miniature hominids) couldn't exist. There are huge advantages to being smaller.


          Regular sized horses exist. Miniature horses exist. Giant horses that are 40 feet tall do not.



          Added later;

          To everyone. Don't you see a pattern here? A nonsensical article was posted. It was revealed, from the source, to be nonsensical. But we still have people here arguing for it.

          My theory is, and I'm being serious, that if I posted an article that said, "It has been discovered that dogs are made from thumb tacks and watermelon seeds. NASA covers it up"...

          ....that we would have the same few people, calling us arrogant and narrow minded for saying it was silly. Eventually, we might get a smudgy, "Well, we don't really know where thumb tacks come from, so we'll just have to agree to disagree".
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            In fact, the smaller the animal, the more mobile.
            I'm pretty sure a leopard is more mobile than an armadillo.


            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Regular sized horses exist. Miniature horses exist. Giant horses that are 40 feet tall do not.
            Because they don't is not proof that they couldn't.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              I'm pretty sure a leopard is more mobile than an armadillo.
              Sure. I meant larger and smaller versions of the same animal.


              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Because they don't is not proof that they couldn't.
              That is true. The proof is not in their lack of existence, but in our understanding of the stresses bone can take. Our knowledge of how much pressure it takes to pump blood over greater distances. Maybe an animal could be 40 feet tall, but it wouldn't still be a horse.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Sure. I meant larger and smaller versions of the same animal.
                Precision, Mr. Whitacre. Precision.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Yukon...Whoever you really are.

            Are you serious? Nobody is making the claim that smaller versions can't exist.

            Of course, you can make them smaller. In fact, the smaller the animal, the more mobile. The greater the strength per pound. Nobody made a claim that miniature horses (or miniature hominids) couldn't exist. There are huge advantages to being smaller.


            Regular sized horses exist. Miniature horses exist. Giant horses that are 40 feet tall do not.




            Mr. vacuum cleaner salesman or whoever you are...

            You made the Robert Wadlow comoparison. FYI, he had health problems, one guy is hardly evolution.

            You said scaled up humans couldn't stand up, again obviously wrong considering a midget & a tall basketball player both stand up just fine.

            The real question is, are you serious?
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              You said scaled up humans couldn't stand up, again obviously wrong considering a midget & a tall basketball player both stand up just fine.
              I actually had a long, detailed post, answering your post. And just before I posted it, I realized...I no longer care. If someone else wants to give it a shot, more power to them.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I actually had a long, detailed post, answering your post. And just before I posted it, I realized...I no longer care. If someone else wants to give it a shot, more power to them.
                Oh jeeze, this is an embarrassing cop-out. Maybe you aren't the super genius I accused you of being in the other thread?

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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by sconer View Post

                  Oh jeeze, this is an embarrassing cop-out. Maybe you aren't the super genius I accused you of being in the other thread?
                  I know you're joking.
                  But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am. They just don't spend time arguing with the craziness. (although Kurt does get sucked in from time to time)

                  But eventually, I get frustrated, and I have to stop.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I know you're joking.
                    But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am.
                    "Several" seems like an understatement.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      "Several" seems like an understatement.
                      It would seem like less of an understatement, if you knew I wasn't including you.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        It would seem like less of an understatement, if you knew I wasn't including you.
                        Meh. I'm accustomed to you being wrong.
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am.
                    Please refer to post No. 13.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am.

                      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                      Please refer to post No. 13.

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                      Frank; I just read your post #13. You're right. Let me amend my post;

                      "But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am. There is also Big Frank".
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                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        "But there are several people here, that are smarter than I am. There is also Big Frank, who is smarter than the rest of us, combined".
                        As I learned in basic training marksmanship class, "Never sacrifice accuracy for speed." I have taken the time to correct your oversight.

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                          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                          As I learned in basic training marksmanship class, "Never sacrifice accuracy for speed." I have taken the time to correct your oversight.

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                            Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                            Someone needs to read my sig line.
                            You're not the first person with a sig-line that contains inaccurate drivel. :-)

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                              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                              You're not the first person with a sig-line that contains inaccurate drivel. :-)

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                                Darn narcissists.
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                                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                                  God's gift to the world. Just ask one. :-)

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                                    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                                    God's gift to the world. Just ask one. :-)

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                                      No need to ask.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I actually had a long, detailed post, answering your post. And just before I posted it, I realized...I no longer care.
                Delightfully satisfying.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I actually had a long, detailed post, answering your post. And just before I posted it, I realized...I no longer care. If someone else wants to give it a shot, more power to them.




                I'm all out of Kleenex.

                Scaling a human up or down obviously works otherwise everyone on earth would be the same height.
                • The shortest man in the world (Chandra Bahadur Dangi) was 21.5 inches tall.
                • The tallest man in the world (Robert Wadlow) was 107 inches tall.

                That's a difference of 85.5 inches between the two guys. That's also 5 times the height difference.

                Take a 6 ft man & multiply by 5 times the height, 30 ft tall. Now obviously we'll never see a 30 ft tall man but in the right environment spread out over thousands of years I'd say it's possible it could happen.

                Granted Robert Wadlow had health problems his entire life & his height was a fluke.

                Look at how plants grow, crappy environments produce crappy plants. Great environments produce great plants. The image below (source) is strictly environmental changes (plant food type, etc...). Back to the miniature horse example, those guys figured out inbreeding horses resulted in stunted growth, again environment, remove the inbreeding & the horses would have been taller.




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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Mr. vacuum cleaner salesman or whoever you are...

              You made the Robert Wadlow comoparison. FYI, he had health problems, one guy is hardly evolution.

              You said scaled up humans couldn't stand up, again obviously wrong considering a midget & a tall basketball player both stand up just fine.

              The real question is, are you serious?
              Yukon;
              You made this post a few days ago. I gave you a smart ass answer. But I think it really needs answered.

              Of course, the midget and the basketball player stand up just fine.

              Let's ignore giants and dwarves that have health problems. Let's just compare healthy people.

              Basketball players aren't twice a normal man's height. They may be, at most 20% taller than an average man. These aren't what the thread is about. The thread is about finding skeletons of Giants, 12, 15, 24 feet tall.

              Bone can only support so much weight. It may be the biggest factor in limiting a land animal's size.

              Remember the post where I said that a 12 foot tall man would be twice as tall, but weigh 8 times as much as a 6 foot tall man? That geometrically increasing weight puts enormous stress on ligaments, bones, tendons. It may be 8 times harder to pump the blood, the bones would have to be 8 times thicker to support the weight...on a man only twice as tall.

              There are reasons any specific animal can only get so big.

              But a basketball player? They aren't much taller than average. And they aren't proportioned the same. They are taller, but leaner. Longer arms and legs. But still, it's a very small difference from average.

              The big difference comes when you compare a basketball player to a midget. But the smaller the person, the more mechanical advantage they have.

              It's why there are no 7 foot tall Olympic Gymnasts. Do you ever watch the UFC?

              The lighter the fighter, the faster they move. The more endurance they have. It's because they are stronger...per pound of bodyweight, than a heavyweight.

              In weight lifting, the most impressive lifts are made by the smaller people. Some people can press 3 times their weight overhead. Those people are small built.

              I don't even have any idea what the limit is for how small a human can be, and still be a human. But there are upper limits that create all kinds of mechanical problems, when talking about giants.

              It's all because, as we get bigger and bigger, our weight increases 4 times faster than our height. And eventually, that growth to weight ratio, prevents the animal, or human, from getting any bigger..... as a species. Gravity is what keeps us from becoming giants.

              But maybe the only thing that keeps us from becoming a foot tall, is the limited size of our brain, we just wouldn't be human anymore.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Yukon;
                You made this post a few days ago. I gave you a smart ass answer. But I think it really needs answered.

                Of course, the midget and the basketball player stand up just fine.

                Let's ignore giants and dwarves that have health problems. Let's just compare healthy people.

                Basketball players aren't twice a normal man's height. They may be, at most 20% taller than an average man. These aren't what the thread is about. The thread is about finding skeletons of Giants, 12, 15, 24 feet tall.

                Bone can only support so much weight. It may be the biggest factor in limiting a land animal's size.

                Remember the post where I said that a 12 foot tall man would be twice as tall, but weigh 8 times as much as a 6 foot tall man? That geometrically increasing weight puts enormous stress on ligaments, bones, tendons. It may be 8 times harder to pump the blood, the bones would have to be 8 times thicker to support the weight...on a man only twice as tall.

                There are reasons any specific animal can only get so big.

                But a basketball player? They aren't much taller than average. And they aren't proportioned the same. They are taller, but leaner. Longer arms and legs. But still, it's a very small difference from average.

                The big difference comes when you compare a basketball player to a midget. But the smaller the person, the more mechanical advantage they have.

                It's why there are no 7 foot tall Olympic Gymnasts. Do you ever watch the UFC?

                The lighter the fighter, the faster they move. The more endurance they have. It's because they are stronger...per pound of bodyweight, than a heavyweight.

                In weight lifting, the most impressive lifts are made by the smaller people. Some people can press 3 times their weight overhead. Those people are small built.

                I don't even have any idea what the limit is for how small a human can be, and still be a human. But there are upper limits that create all kinds of mechanical problems, when talking about giants.

                It's all because, as we get bigger and bigger, our weight increases 4 times faster than our height. And eventually, that growth to weight ratio, prevents the animal, or human, from getting any bigger..... as a species. Gravity is what keeps us from becoming giants.

                But maybe the only thing that keeps us from becoming a foot tall, is the limited size of our brain, we just wouldn't be human anymore.



                I guess you're suggesting you can't stand up or move since you're taller than a midget.

                Keep blaming gravity.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  I guess you're suggesting you can't stand up or move since you're taller than a midget.

                  Keep blaming gravity.

                  Finally! we made some headway.

                  Yes, I am saying that anyone taller than a midget cannot stand up because of the force of gravity.

                  Someone finally gets me.
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    Finally! we made some headway.

                    Yes, I am saying that anyone taller than a midget cannot stand up because of the force of gravity.

                    Someone finally gets me.
                    Everybody gets you, they just pretend not to in order to piss off the narcissist in you.
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                      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                      Everybody gets you, they just pretend not to in order to piss off the narcissist in you.
                      (Big Frank's coaching. oooopps shhhhh)
                      There is no narcissist in me, at the moment. That may change if I ever meet Big Frank.
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                        Smithsonian Destroyed Skeletons Of Giants
                        Pfffft!

                        How much courage does it take to destroy giants after they're deceased?

                        Take Jack for instance! He destroyed Giants while they were still livin'!


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                        There is no one in me, at the moment. That may change if I bathe and head downtown.
                        All, better!

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                          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                          All, better!

                          Cheers. - Frank
                          I thought it was after he heads downtown and bathes at the Turkish Baths.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I was wondering if someone would bring that up. Take a two legged huge dinosaur, the T-Rex. Look at the thigh bones, they are immensely thick, and denser than human bone.

        And the proportions are different. Humans carry much of their weight in their upper body.

        The T-Rex carried most of its weight in its legs and tail.

        But humans? That look like humans only 20 feet tall? They simply wouldn't be able to stand up, without their hips and legs breaking.

        Just Google any past verified giant. You'll see all kinds of physical problems, even at 20 years old. And none of these people were even 9 feet tall.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow




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        ...also, I'm guessing you're not a midget but midgets can still stand up, walk, run or even do karate just like tall people.










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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I was wondering if someone would bring that up. Take a two legged huge dinosaur, the T-Rex. Look at the thigh bones, they are immensely thick, and denser than human bone.

        And the proportions are different. Humans carry much of their weight in their upper body.

        The T-Rex carried most of its weight in its legs and tail.

        But humans? That look like humans only 20 feet tall? They simply wouldn't be able to stand up, without their hips and legs breaking.

        Just Google any past verified giant. You'll see all kinds of physical problems, even at 20 years old. And none of these people were even 9 feet tall.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow

        There's two types of extremely tall people. One is the result of the disease/condition gigantism. These folks have physical abnormalities and are disproportional.


        However, the other type are "normal" people that are just really tall. A good example is Yao Ming, the former basket ball player who is 7' 6". Yao did have foot issues, which I feel is likely due to the excess pressure on his feet, but there are other large people that don't have foot issues and there are also short people that do.


        There's also a large hominid from Africa, I can't remember the name. The average male was something like 6' 4". I "think" it was the largest known hominid. Some anthropologists think it may have became instinct because of the surface area of its skin, making it more difficult to cool in the heat of its environment.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          There's also a large hominid from Africa, I can't remember the name. The average male was something like 6' 4". I "think" it was the largest known hominid. Some anthropologists think it may have became instinct because of the surface area of its skin, making it more difficult to cool in the heat of its environment.
          Extinct.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Extinct.
            As are every other species of hominids that ever existed, except one, including all the smaller ones like "Hobbit Man" (homo floresiensis ).
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              As are every other species of hominids that ever existed, except one, including all the smaller ones like "Hobbit Man" (homo floresiensis ).
              And including Homo Erectus, more popularly known as "Viagra Man". Or the popular "Jewish Man", Homo Forskiniskeepis


              But you did bring up a good point. Of the dozens (that we know of) of different species of hominids that existed, we are all that's left. You brought up the idea that our power to throw things accurately was a big advantage. My personal observation is that our species has the longest legs. Very useful in chasing a hunt, running from a predator, and seeing above tall grass. All these species of humans had small populations at the beginning. I suspect the wrong timing of an Ice Age, the wrong change in climate, could have wiped us all out.

              Which would be sad, because then nobody would have heard my brilliant "Viagra Man" joke.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Which would be sad, because then nobody would have heard my brilliant "Viagra Man" joke.
                Well, are you going to tell it? We're waiting.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                My personal observation is that our species has the longest legs.
                Your "personal observation? We all knew you were old, but...


                Very useful in chasing a hunt, running from a predator, and seeing above tall grass.

                Compared to other animals, we aren't great sprinters, so I doubt we were very good running from predators. However, we are very good at running long distances. There aren't many animals faster at running a marathon. Dogs/wolves and hyenas, and maybe a few others. I do know that the Bushmen of the Kalahari have been known to run down antelope.


                Also, using two legs for walking takes a lot less energy than using four.


                All these species of humans had small populations at the beginning. I suspect the wrong timing of an Ice Age, the wrong change in climate, could have wiped us all out.

                While many people use the phrase "survival of the fittest", some of us believe there's also a good amount of random luck.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                And including Homo Erectus
                And then there's Homo Erectus Humongous, more commonly referred to as "Playa", highly sought out by females of the species.
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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  think it may have became instinct because of
                  Do you have relatives on the forum?

                  From a main forum thread yesterday....

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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Or the popular "Jewish Man", Homo Forskiniskeepis
                I'd think that'd be homo foreskinabsensis.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

                  I'd think that'd be homo foreskinabsensis.
                  David;

                  Do you realize that you just showed me that the single thing I thought I knew about Jewish men...is wrong.?

                  You just pointed out yet another vast ocean of knowledge, of which I am completely unaware.

                  Thank you David...Thank you very much.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    Do you realizes that you just showed me
                    Further proof that Claude's transformation into Gollum from Lord of the Rings is almost complete.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      Further proof that Claude's transformation into Gollum for Lord of the Rings is almost complete.

                      Yet another attempt at getting me to call you "My Precious".


                      ( I had to read my post a few times to catch the mistake, and the joke)
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                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


                        ( I had to read my post a few times to catch the mistake, and the joke)
                        In a shocking turn of events, this surprises no one.
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    Miniature horses can be service animals, with the same ADA protection of seeing eye dogs, etc.


    Surprised nobody brought up Stephen Quayle.

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Claude is a giant of a man, over 6 feet tall and 4 feet wide. Wearing his wedgies he can see through the little window into the shower room at the local Wooster College For Young Ladies.

      He hated looking down on women so sought to marry a Giantess. Tess was not interested though. This is why he put shoes on his knees and now walks around like Toulouse Lautrec minus the beard.

      Being tall has it's drawbacks, with so many redundant low slung ceiling fans in his store he's always shaving the hair off the top of his head. And you thought he was bald, nope. A full thatch would grow but for those fans.

      It's all in my forthcoming biography of him, now in it's 6th year of development.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        To me, it's even worse than that. I have a very difficult time believing that anyone believes these incredibly insane ideas.

        You can call it "second generation skepticism". Not only don't I believe the claims, I need extraordinary proof that the person spouting this nonsense believes it themselves.

        And that's why I treat most things as a joke.

        My son and I were discussing giantism. Why couldn't someone be 20 feet tall? 36 feet tall?

        Because we are three dimensional. The taller we are, the more we weigh,
        exponentially.

        The difference between a 6 foot man and a 12 foot man? The twelve foot man would be twice as tall, four times as strong, but weigh eight times more than the six foot man.

        It's why gymnasts are smaller people. The larger you are, the more pressure, per square inch, on your skeleton there is. The longer the bones, the worse the leverage. The longer the circulatory system, the harder the heart has to pump to circulate blood.

        Every giant over 7 1/2 feet tall died very young. Most can't even walk in middle age.
        Ok, well the photo, is most likely not a Photoshop one, but obviously it could be a fake bone!

        But taking Sals testimonial into account, it is possible!


        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Miniature horses are so cute - love the Amazon TV commercial featuring a mini horse.

        Everything we've found from ancient history seems to indicate humans have gotten larger...not smaller.

        Stories like that attract those who are anxious to find "proof" that govt or agencies are lying to us, hiding things from us, have damaged us in some way. Guess if you have to make up the stories...maybe you need a new hobby.
        No, but to be open minded enough enough to the possibility!

        After all if we all say it is nonsense that puts a lid on further research?



        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Yukon...Whoever you really are.

        Are you serious? Nobody is making the claim that smaller versions can't exist.

        Of course, you can make them smaller. In fact, the smaller the animal, the more mobile. The greater the strength per pound. Nobody made a claim that miniature horses (or miniature hominids) couldn't exist. There are huge advantages to being smaller.


        Regular sized horses exist. Miniature horses exist. Giant horses that are 40 feet tall do not.



        Added later;

        To everyone. Don't you see a pattern here? A nonsensical article was posted. It was revealed, from the source, to be nonsensical. But we still have people here arguing for it.

        My theory is, and I'm being serious, that if I posted an article that said, "It has been discovered that dogs are made from thumb tacks and watermelon seeds. NASA covers it up"...

        ....that we would have the same few people, calling us arrogant and narrow minded for saying it was silly. Eventually, we might get a smudgy, "Well, we don't really know where thumb tacks come from, so we'll just have to agree to disagree".
        Arr, no, l would be calling the men in white suits!


        Originally Posted by sconer View Post

        Oh jeeze, this is an embarrassing cop-out. Maybe you aren't the super genius I accused you of being in the other thread?

        No, Claude isn't!

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    The documents are scheduled to be released in 2015 and the operation will be coordinated by an independent scientific organization to assure political neutrality.


    The article said the above. It is now 2016. Release the documents!

    Oh, maybe they've already been released but the independent scientific organization is still studying them?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      And including Homo Erectus, more popularly known as "Viagra Man". Or the popular "Jewish Man", Homo Forskiniskeepis


      Which would be sad, because then nobody would have heard my brilliant "Viagra Man" joke.
      Homo Ecectus, LOL, but unfortunately Homo tends to say that they died out pretty quickly?

      Forced breeding perhaps?

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      • There are miniature horses?

        Hey -- gonna strap me a pair of those funky quadrupeds to my boots an' travel in style.

        Who needs a hoverboard?
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    In a world drownin' in misinformation, analysis without rigor, an' presumtive garbage, it stands as a beacon of excellence, a colossus of liberated philosophical acumen.

    Foreskins!

    An' rings!

    Yeah — that is a hole in two!

    How we hula only the choicest fundamentals on the tips of our tongues.

    To invite navels here so as to produce a worthy trio would be plain crass.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Princess.

      I have to say, when you started posting, I thought you were nuts.
      But eventually, a pattern emerged, a beauty of meaning and language. Poetry, really.

      And I realized that the reason your posts made no sense, wasn't because you were nuts, but because my mind simply wasn't up to the task.

      You are a truly gifted writer.
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  • That is very kind of you, Claude.

    Lotta people figure I am nuts, but I like to creep up on 'em like a stealth womber.

    Am I permitted to reciprocate, in this momentary hiatus between frisbee fling of foreskins?

    I figure you are a generous guy, an' that is kinda difficult to be.

    I know from the cut of your Fu apparel that you are a weaponized kinda guy, but it does not seem to be in your nature to wield the flared pants of combat as a default means of demonstratin' chic.

    Gotta hope you take that as a compliment.

    Cos I ain't got a frickin' clue what it means.
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    Spider-Man feats 'impossible' because of small feet -

    Spider-Man feats 'impossible' because of small feet - BBC News
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      In other tangentially related news just in...

      Spider-Man feats 'impossible' because of small feet -

      Spider-Man feats 'impossible' because of small feet - BBC News
      Actually, I think it's closely related to this discussion.

      As animals get bigger, their weight increases at four times the rate of their height increase. But it works in reverse as well. weight decreases exponentially as animals get smaller.

      It's what allows bugs to walk on water, lizards to be able to scale glass. and ants to carry 20 times their own weight.
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      • Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Actually, I think it's closely related to this discussion.
        Gravity is a cool morpher of stuff.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          There was a quite famous natural history essay published in 1928 by J.B.S. Haldane called "On Being The Right Size" which covers much of what's being discussed here. [Spoiler Alert - he agrees with Claude]
          One quote from the essay: "... for every type of animal there is an optimum size."

          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          As animals get bigger, their weight increases at four times the rate of their height increase. But it works in reverse as well. weight decreases exponentially as animals get smaller.
          And because its surface area is not reduced proportionately to its weight, a smaller animal is able to resist a fall from a greater height - it has that much greater resistance to falling. As Haldane says: "You can drop a mouse down a thousand-yard mine shaft; and, on arriving at the bottom, it gets a slight shock and walks away, provided that the ground is fairly soft. A rat is killed, a man is broken, a horse splashes."

          DISCLAIMER: Do NOT try this experiment with your cat (if Shane's watching).
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            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            There was a quite famous natural history essay published in 1928 by J.B.S. Haldane called "On Being The Right Size" which covers much of what's being discussed here. [Spoiler Alert - he agrees with Claude]
            One quote from the essay: "... for every type of animal there is an optimum size."



            And because its surface area is not reduced proportionately to its weight, a smaller animal is able to resist a fall from a greater height - it has that much greater resistance to falling. As Haldane says: "You can drop a mouse down a thousand-yard mine shaft; and, on arriving at the bottom, it gets a slight shock and walks away, provided that the ground is fairly soft. A rat is killed, a man is broken, a horse splashes."

            DISCLAIMER: Do NOT try this experiment with your cat (if Shane's watching).
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            True, you have to run that experiment 9 times to get a realistic outcome!

            Although small, fluffy kittens,....you can drop them all day long, without a scratch!




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