RIP Harper Lee and Umberto Eco

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Two literary giants gone in one day.

Harper Lee, 'To Kill a Mockingbird' author, dead at 89 - CNN.com

Umberto Eco, Italian novelist and intellectual, dies aged 84 | Books | The Guardian

RIP Harper.

RIP Umberto.
  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Quite a blow to the literary community, for sure.

    God speed, guys.


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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Harper Lee wrote one book. One.

      So, what can we learn from that?

      A great compelling story, that matches a national trend, one people believe in deeply (civil right), one written to a world wide audience, with characters everyone will identify with...will be a run away best seller.

      The book is still read. And it reads like it could be happening yesterday.
      This is the kind of book that college students read....in fact it may be required reading. (Like Flowers For Algernon). A great movie was made from the book. One I have watched dozens of times....which in turn sells the book.

      A real study in how to write best selling fiction.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Harper Lee wrote one book. One.

        So, what can we learn from that?

        A great compelling story, that matches a national trend, one people believe in deeply (civil right), one written to a world wide audience, with characters everyone will identify with...will be a run away best seller.

        The book is still read. And it reads like it could be happening yesterday.
        This is the kind of book that college students read....in fact it may be required reading. (Like Flowers For Algernon). A great movie was made from the book. One I have watched dozens of times....which in turn sells the book.

        A real study in how to write best selling fiction.
        I realize counting isn't your strength, but she wrote two. Two.


        "Go Set a Watchman" was released last year, although it was actually written before Mockingbird.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          I realize counting isn't your strength, but she wrote two. Two.


          "Go Set a Watchman" was released last year, although it was actually written before Mockingbird.
          I realize literature isn't your strength. It was later discovered that this was simply the first draft of To Kill A Mockingbird.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I realize literature isn't your strength. It was later discovered that this was simply the first draft of To Kill A Mockingbird.
            I realize facts and reality aren't your strength either, so I did the research for your convenience:


            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Set_a_Watchman
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              I realize facts and reality aren't your strength either, so I did the research for your convenience:


              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Set_a_Watchman
              I realize that reading entire articles isn't your strength...yada..yada..yada.....

              Here;
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_Lee


              "The book was controversially[4] published in July 2015 as a sequel to To Kill a Mockingbird, though it has been confirmed to be the first draft of the latter, with many narrative incongruities, repackaged and released as a completely separate work."



              "New York Times columnist Joe Nocera continued this argument.[4] He also took issue with how the book was promoted by the 'Murdoch Empire' as a "newly discovered" novel, attesting that the other people in the Sothebys meeting insisted that Lee's attorney was present in 2011, when Lee's former agent (who was subsequently fired) and the Sotheby's specialist found the manuscript. They said she knew full well that it was the same one submitted to Tay Hohoff in the '50s that was reworked into Mockingbird, and that Carter had been sitting on the discovery, waiting for the moment when she, and not Alice, would be in charge of Harper Lee's affairs.[4]"


              And from the link you provided;

              "Although promoted by its publisher and initially described in media reports as a sequel to Lee's best-selling novel To Kill a Mockingbird, which was published in 1960, Go Set a Watchman is actually that novel's first draft.[13][2] The novel was finished in 1957[13] and purchased by the J.B. Lippincott Company. Lee's editor, Tay Hohoff, although impressed with elements of the story, saying that "the spark of the true writer flashed in every line,"[13] thought it was by no means ready for publication. It was, as she described it, "more a series of anecdotes than a fully conceived novel." As Jonathan Mahler recounts in his Times article on Hohoff, she thought the strongest aspect of Lee's novel was the flashback sequences featuring a young Scout, and thus requested that Lee use those flashbacks as a basis for a new novel. Lee agreed, and "during the next couple of years, Hohoff led Lee from one draft to the next until the book finally achieved its finished form and was retitled To Kill a Mockingbird".[13]"
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I realize that reading entire articles isn't your strength...yada..yada..yada.....

                Here;
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_Lee


                "The book was controversially[4] published in July 2015 as a sequel to To Kill a Mockingbird, though it has been confirmed to be the first draft of the latter, with many narrative incongruities, repackaged and released as a completely separate work."



                "New York Times columnist Joe Nocera continued this argument.[4] He also took issue with how the book was promoted by the 'Murdoch Empire' as a "newly discovered" novel, attesting that the other people in the Sothebys meeting insisted that Lee's attorney was present in 2011, when Lee's former agent (who was subsequently fired) and the Sotheby's specialist found the manuscript. They said she knew full well that it was the same one submitted to Tay Hohoff in the '50s that was reworked into Mockingbird, and that Carter had been sitting on the discovery, waiting for the moment when she, and not Alice, would be in charge of Harper Lee's affairs.[4]"


                And from the link you provided;

                "Although promoted by its publisher and initially described in media reports as a sequel to Lee's best-selling novel To Kill a Mockingbird, which was published in 1960, Go Set a Watchman is actually that novel's first draft.[13][2] The novel was finished in 1957[13] and purchased by the J.B. Lippincott Company. Lee's editor, Tay Hohoff, although impressed with elements of the story, saying that "the spark of the true writer flashed in every line,"[13] thought it was by no means ready for publication. It was, as she described it, "more a series of anecdotes than a fully conceived novel." As Jonathan Mahler recounts in his Times article on Hohoff, she thought the strongest aspect of Lee's novel was the flashback sequences featuring a young Scout, and thus requested that Lee use those flashbacks as a basis for a new novel. Lee agreed, and "during the next couple of years, Hohoff led Lee from one draft to the next until the book finally achieved its finished form and was retitled To Kill a Mockingbird".[13]"
                You cherry-picked and left out words and phrases like "second novel", "sequel", and left out this sentence: "The book was controversially[4] published in July 2015 as a sequel to To Kill a Mockingbird, though it has been confirmed to be the first draft of the latter, with many narrative incongruities, repackaged and released as a completely separate work.[4]"


                It's illogical to assume that because one was a first draft of the other that that they are the same "writings" or same book in the end after being "reworked".
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  You cherry-picked and left out words and phrases like "second novel", "sequel", and left out this sentence: "The book was controversially[4] published in July 2015 as a sequel to To Kill a Mockingbird, though it has been confirmed to be the first draft of the latter, with many narrative incongruities, repackaged and released as a completely separate work.[4]"

                  It's illogical to assume that because one was a first draft of the other that that they are the same "writings" or same book in the end after being "reworked".

                  Did you forget?
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post




                  "The book was controversially[4] published in July 2015 as a sequel to To Kill a Mockingbird, though it has been confirmed to be the first draft of the latter, with many narrative incongruities, repackaged and released as a completely separate work."
                  It's illogical to assume that a first draft of a book, is an earlier version of the same book?

                  You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

                  Yes. The answer is Yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    It was a good book. it was about on par with Naruto.

    Except that Naruto had a lot better character development.
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  • I know people die alla the time, but we seem to be losin' a whole buncha quality this year,
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  • Profile picture of the author enjamulahsan
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    Nothing to say, Just RIP
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