So - How Did That Tony Robbins Event Turn Out

by BigFrank Banned 89 replies
I know this guy thinks he's 'hot stuff,' but this is ridiculous.

Some people will say anything and others will believe anything.

Dozens Treated for Burns After 'Firewalk' Exercise at Tony Robbins Event - NBC News

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    He makes more money that you will ever make in your lifetime.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    He makes more money that you will ever make in your lifetime.
    Not relevant - it's not so much about Robbins as about people who will do anything they are told to do.

    I don't care who you are or how much you earn - my sweet little feet are not hitting the hot coals....
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    From what l have heard he charges $5000 per event, and corporations pay it since it is a tax riteoff, and well as some individuals.

    And his events arent any better than spending $30 for one of his books.

    His events do put you on a high, but unless he is throwing money into the audience, l wouldn't bother.

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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      And his events arent any better than spending $30 for one of his books
      Anyone that spends $30 on one of his books deserves what they get and should be made to pay for their poor investment by walking on hot coals. Do people really need to be told or taught the things that this guy espouses? You're saying that people are not smart enough, intuitive enough and lack the self-awareness required to figure this stuff out on their own by the time their around 18 years of age. That's just sad.

      This guy is the ultimate hustler and he probably taught Drumpf, everything he knows.

      People are funny - and sheep. lol

      Cheers. - Frank
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      From what l have heard he charges $5000 per event, and corporations pay it since it is a tax riteoff, and well as some individuals.

      And his events arent any better than spending $30 for one of his books.

      His events do put you on a high, but unless he is throwing money into the audience, l wouldn't bother.

      Lol at this guy. Oh jeez.

      "Aren't any better than spending $30 for one of his books."

      This guy obviously has never bought any of tony Robbins courses and definitely has never been to an event.

      Never experienced an insane 15 hour day until 230 in the morning rocking and rolling blowing the roof off the place.

      A $30 book doesn't give that to you. I've been to one and I plan on going to more.

      I recommend anyone to do it and experience it. Tony Robbins isn't getting any younger and no one else seems to be close to what he's capable of doing.

      So take the opportunity. I know I will again and again.
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    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

    I know this guy thinks he's 'hot stuff,' but this is ridiculous.

    Some people will say anything and others will believe anything.

    Dozens Treated for Burns After 'Firewalk' Exercise at Tony Robbins Event - NBC News

    Cheers. - Frank
    The reason they got burned feet is that they really aren't supposed to be "walking over hot coals" They are supposed to be walking over hot coals.....covered in a thick layer of ash.


    The ash insulates the skin from the heat.

    Some idiot just forgot the trick.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      The reason they got burned feet is that they really aren't supposed to be "walking over hot coals" They are supposed to be walking over hot coals.....covered in a thick layer of ash.


      The ash insulates the skin from the heat.

      Some idiot just forgot the trick.
      These are Tony Robbins followers. Your use of the term 'idiot' is the height of redundancy.

      Cheers. - Frank

      P.S. The reason they got 'burned' is because they spent $5000 listening to this grifter, in the first place. You can't make this stuff up.
  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

    Anyone that spends $30 on one of his books deserves what they get and should be made to pay for their poor investment by walking on hot coals. Do people really need to be told or taught the things that this guy espouses? You're saying that people are not smart enough, intuitive enough and lack the self-awareness required to figure this stuff out on their own by the time their around 18 years of age. That's just sad.

    This guy is the ultimate hustler and he probably taught Drumpf, everything he knows.

    People are funny - and sheep. lol

    Cheers. - Frank
    In one way that is true, but in another, hmmmm.

    I bought one of his books, a long time ago, and l learned one thing that helped me.

    $30 is subjective, but if l was investing a lot of time and money into business ideas, then l believe that it was worth it.

    But on the other hand l got a lot more from Robert Koyashaki's first book.


    But unfortunately most online Gurus, do have a underlining dodgy theme running through their material.

    Frank Kern builds an 8k list before spamming is made illegal, and that launches his career.

    Tony Robbins, turns his life around from cleaning floors and being seriously overweight to wealthy and thinner.

    But can anyone get out of a crap job and lose some weight, (of course) but can anyone become a motivational speaker, not really.

    Most gurus are like that, right place, right time, and then they try to sell the idea that anyone can ignore that lucky break and create wealth.

    You cannot sell, luck, but they do try.

    And before someone gets into me about Frank Kern, l did get a look at his name list product, $1800, and there is no sure fire way to wealth in it, just a lot of well done videos, showing how to maintain and extract money from a reasonably sized list.

    Little about how to create the list in the first place!

    For the most part, high prices and high fluff.


    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

    These are Tony Robbins followers. Your use of the term 'idiot' is the height of redundancy.

    Cheers. - Frank

    P.S. The reason they got 'burned' is because they spent $5000 listening to this grifter, in the first place. You can't make this stuff up.
    $5000, Lol, frank how about $15,000 to go and see him at his house for 15 minutes.

    But l think that he also coaches them for a while, and gets them to walk on coals, and jump out of a plane to overcome fear.

    I personally thought that this was pretty dumb, overall, just buy one of his books, save the 15k, and go and jump out of a plane on your own!

    P*** money up against a tree, pretty much covers it.

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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      I personally thought that this was pretty dumb, overall, just buy one of his books, save the 15k, and go and jump out of a plane on your own!

      P*** money up against a tree, pretty much covers it.
      Of course, you could skip the book, skip the jumping out of a plane, skip the $15 personal coaching and learn what science already teaches us. Fear is a good thing. It's one of the main reasons that the human species has made it this far.

      Yes, of course I'm being facetious. If Mr. Robbins actually helps anyone, that's great and I'm all for it. We all get to choose our poison - in a manner of speaking.

      Frank Kern is another one that I simply don't get. I'm sure that he is probably a very nice man who loves his kids and his dog, but I subscribe to his mailing just to be astounded at what people will fall for. I laugh, uproariously at his mailings.

      Yes - I know, I will never have Mr. Kern's nor Mr. Robbins' money, yet, somehow I am totally OK with with that fact. We all aspire to different things in life.

      I just don't believe in selling dreams. I prefer to make my own dreams come true without depending on others to get me there. Of course, my dreams have been minimal as I have never aspired to great wealth, fame or notoriety. I'm content, so I'm happy. I possess everything I want or need. You can't ask for more than that in life.

      To each, his own path.

      Cheers. - Frank
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    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

    Absolutely nothing. It's their money - they can waste it however they see fit. :-)
    You can say the same about drugs. Like I said, above, "Choose your poison." It's a free country.
    Hookers, hookers and more hookers. I'm choosing my own poison.
    You're a very nice man. I'm not. I thought we had clearly established this fact, over the years. I can't be you.
    Nothing wrong with that, or going to a Tony Robbins event, if it makes you happy. I'm just a little, judgemental prick. Leave me alone. lol
    You mean like ghosts, Martians, Donald Trump and 'trickle-down economics?' Yes - I get that.
    So much for the 'uplifting' part. When does the 'upselling' kick-in.
    That's one of the single most pathetic things I have ever heard. When does the cyanide come out of the air conditioning events?

    Do you know what I think? I think topics like this would be great for discussion on a couple hours per week radio show. What do you think about that Claude? :-)

    Cheers. - Frank
    I wonder how many people are desperate and go to one of his events with their last dollar, only to find a few days later, after the high wears off, to come to the realization that they learn't very little from it?

    5k is a hell of a lot of money, for a pep talk.

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Frank Kern (as far as I know) makes most of his money showing people how to sell programs, either by speaking to groups, or with webinars. He uses his programs to sell them, as his product. You re literally paying for his sales sequence...that got you to buy his sales sequence. Nothing wrong with that. It's useful information...it just strikes me as funny.
    Yes, that and selling to high end clients, or clients that typically pay 10k a month for his info,.

    But as Frank has stated, most if not all of this high end info, is common sence.

    One is creating a back end sales funnel from hell, or just thrashing the hell out of a series of spin off products.

    But this is all subjective, and big business usually pays a lot in tax, so why not.

    Use pretax dollars, for hopefully a benefit.

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    I wonder how you "sue" for something like that.

    You stand up in court and say "he told me to walk on burning coals....and when I did it burned my feet". One fellow admitted when his feet started to burn it would have been a good idea to jump off the coals - but he he didn't to that.

    I got a kick out of the article below....

    Tony Robbins’ faithful say fire-walk victims lacked focus, but Parkland burn expert says ‘don’t do it’ | | Dallas Morning News
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I wonder how you "sue" for something like that.

      You stand up in court and say "he told me to walk on burning coals....and when I did it burned my feet". One fellow admitted when his feet started to burn it would have been a good idea to jump off the coals - but he he didn't to that.

      I got a kick out of the article below....

      Tony Robbins’ faithful say fire-walk victims lacked focus, but Parkland burn expert says ‘don’t do it’ | | Dallas Morning News
      I'd hope my lawyer would present a better case than that. Plenty of people walk on hot coals without getting burned. The first question I'd ask as the plaintiffs' lawyer would be, why did these people get burned and the many others didn't?


      I'm not saying I think they should be awarded any money, only made a joke about a suit. On the other hand, I didn't think a woman would win millions after dropping a cup of coffee in her lap.
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I wonder how you "sue" for something like that.
      Seriously, in the US in 2016 with an ocean of scumbag lawyers. lol You slay me!

      I got a kick out of the article below....
      The best part: " Participants spent the entire first day of the four-day event preparing themselves to achieve their “peak state” before walking across the 15 feet of coals.

      But social media and smartphones are a powerful distraction that can shake that focus, said Tad Schinke, who has been a crew member at more than 100 Robbins events."

      “I’ve seen people halfway through the fire walk pulling their phones out to video themselves,” Schinke said. “It’s frustrating. My job is to prepare them for the walk, but once they’re out on the coals, they’re on their own.”

      Translation: "Good luck, losers!"

      Cheers. - Frank
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I wonder how you "sue" for something like that.

      You stand up in court and say "he told me to walk on burning coals....and when I did it burned my feet". One fellow admitted when his feet started to burn it would have been a good idea to jump off the coals - but he he didn't to that.

      I got a kick out of the article below....

      Tony Robbins’ faithful say fire-walk victims lacked focus, but Parkland burn expert says ‘don’t do it’ | | Dallas Morning News
      It has nothing to do with focus. It has everything to do with how you prepare the coals, and how long you wait before anyone walks on them.

      Here are a few tidbits in the world of "Magic stunts that look like amazing meditative feats".

      If the hot coals have enough ash on top, your feet don't get burned. If there is no ash on top, you get burned. It has nothing to do with belief, faith, the power of will, the subconscious, or how in tune you are with nature. Enough insulation from the white ash (they say the white ash means it's "White hot".) and you don't get burned.

      I've laid on a bed of nails, with no shirt on, and had 300 pounds of concrete broken on my chest, with a sledgehammer. It's a trick of physics. The most amazing part is that some of the people doing it, actually think they have abilities.

      You don't need an entire day to get in a proper mental state. They need a day to build and cement your belief, so you can be sold high end consulting and coaching programs.


      Kay; This wasn't directed at you. But your post brought up the article.


      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      The best part: " Participants spent the entire first day of the four-day event preparing themselves to achieve their “peak state” before walking across the 15 feet of coals.
      "peak state". Silly, silly, silly.

      My guess is that the next day (after everyone has proven to themselves that Tony made them fireproof), the real pitch begins.

      I actually used to study how these guys did it...making millions in a three or four day event.
      The sole reason I never did this myself, is the deep utter contempt I developed for the attendees that followed the guru.
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    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

    I'm not saying I think they should be awarded any money, only made a joke about a suit. On the other hand, I didn't think a woman would win millions after dropping a cup of coffee in her lap.
    Yet you still see warning stickers on lawnmowers telling people not to stick their hands under the mower when the blade is spinning.

    One of my old bosses told a story about the origin of that warning.

    Seems two neighbors wanted to go fishing, but their wives insisted that they trim the hedges before they did anything else. And we know how persuasive wives can be about stuff like that. So the two guys decided to crank up the mower and each grabbed a set of wheels. They lifted the mower to about chest height and started walking it down the hedge between their yards.

    Worked great until one of them caught a spec in their eye and dropped their side of the mower. The other one tried to catch it, and ended up losing the fingers on one hand.

    They sued the mower manufacturer, and won.

    Another old boss liked to say that nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the average person.
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