Durant goes to Warriors....Wow ! 2016-2017 NBA Thread Starts NOW !!

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Unbelievable. Shocking. Iam stunned.

Tim, you little turkey you

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/so...222621654.htmlis


P.S. Sorry guys this is too big for NBA Thread for this past year. Its a new season anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    Lol. Robert, I thought he would stay with OKC for another year at least up until the last few days. Once I read this week about some Warrior players recruiting Durant all year and then thinking about how the owners have been very persuasive when going after people they want ( Kerr, Iguodala ) I thought they had a much better chance. Then I read that the Logo talked to him by phone and spelled out exactly why he should pick the Warriors I almost would have been shocked if he didn't sign with them. It really does make sense. Their defense is going to be awesome and their offense.... damn!

    The based God took his curse off of Durant also. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Tim,
    you're Misery that you experienced two weeks ago was a blessing in disguise. No way KD goes to Dubs if they win this past year.
    His ego is too big to join a team who is on their way building a dynasty with two in a row. He would feel like he would be just riding Curry's and Thompson's coat tails. It would really seem cheesy lol

    With the Warriors loss he feels like he can come and round out the team to get back on track to Dynasty mode.

    My oh my how things in Life can change so quickly. Warrior nation down and out just week before last. now turns to celebration and a lot of Hope and the potential for an incredible scenario i.e. Curry, Thompson, Green, Durant in the starting rotation.

    Not Fair

    I'm protesting lol
  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    Not fair perhaps but the right decision for Durant. He really fits in great with the way he plays and will make for a huge improvement over Barnes, who I think is a terrific talent. I just wish the Warriors could find a way to keep Bogut.

    You are right about losing the finals helped make the decision easier for Durant but I wonder if he would have done the same thing anyways. Hell, he is already getting criticized big time for this decision.

    I think his injuries the past few years make it a good decision also and the fact that Westbrook was likely leaving after next year anyways.

    Hey, the Spurs added a superstar also last year. Not quite on Durant's level but one of the best for sure. Now the Spurs might get Gasol which would be very interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesM83
    Officially makes OKC shit and GSW over powered as ****!
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I'll be the dissenter here...I'm not sold on "all star" teams. Personally, I don't think you mess with a team that won 73 games. I would do everything to keep them together.


    About a year after my Nuggets entered the NBA, they had a starting lineup of:
    Dan Issel
    George McGinnis
    Charley Scott
    David Thompson


    It doesn't get much more talented than that. However, that team only won 48 games that year, quite a few games less than in the previous few seasons.


    How many titles did Houston win with Akeem, Drexler and Barkley?


    I'm not saying the Dubs won't win it all next year, they may. However, I would have made them the favorites without Durant. Again, I just don't think you mess with the chemistry of a 73 win team. But that's probably why Jerry West is "The Logo" and I'm not.


    The positive from this is more addition by subtraction in that signing Durant severely weakened OKC, which took the Dubs to the wire last season. There's now one less team in the West to contend with.
    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I'll be the dissenter here...I'm not sold on "all star" teams. Personally, I don't think you mess with a team that won 73 games. I would do everything to keep them together.


      About a year after my Nuggets entered the NBA, they had a starting lineup of:
      Dan Issel
      George McGinnis
      Charley Scott
      David Thompson


      It doesn't get much more talented than that. However, that team only won 48 games that year, quite a few games less than in the previous few seasons.


      How many titles did Houston win with Akeem, Drexler and Barkley?


      I'm not saying the Dubs won't win it all next year, they may. However, I would have made them the favorites without Durant. Again, I just don't think you mess with the chemistry of a 73 win team. But that's probably why Jerry West is "The Logo" and I'm not.


      The positive from this is more addition by subtraction in that signing Durant severely weakened OKC, which took the Dubs to the wire last season. There's now one less team in the West to contend with.
      I hear ya, Kurt. The chemistry of a team is super important. That was the big reason I was against trading Klay for Love two years ago. I really hate to lose Bogut and Barnes but it's worth the risk for Durant. He seems to be a perfect fit for them offensively, defensively and also personality wise.

      Durant says he wants to improve as a player. Well, he will be in the perfect environment for that. It's a scary thought to think he. Curry, Green and Thompson can all get better.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    "2016-2017 NBA Thread Starts NOW"? Or should it be "2016-2017 NBA Thread Ends NOW?

    As a Cavs fan, I'm very, very, very afraid. Heck, I already was very, very, very afraid -- now I'm just ready to hide under my covers.

    That said, Kurt is right, chemistry is huge. And having watched Kevin Love struggle to find his place in Cleveland amongst two other stars, I have no doubt that Durant (and the rest of the Warriors) will have a period of adjustment. Still, even if Durant doesn't score a point, he's an asset on defense in a way that Love is only starting to become. And regardless... he's just soooooooo goooooood.

    I guess the good news is that now that OKC is toast and now that other teams in the East looking to make some big improvements over the offseason (I'm looking at you Boston and Toronto!), maybe we'll start getting some love and attention on this side of the Mississippi. Of course, it also helps that the defending champs play in the East.

    Still... I don't remember ever seeing a defending champion that's as good as the Cavs have the odds stacked so much against them before the season even started. And that's 100% due to the already amazing talent of the Golden State Warriors and this monster signing. That said, Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and GM David Griffen have shown they're willing to get creative (and spend the money!) to stay competititve, so I wouldn't be surprised to see headlines about a blockbuster trade for the Cavs when the trade deadline rolls around in 2017. Mo Williams for Stephen Curry? Yeah, that seems fair to me!
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Chemistry blemistry

    First of all the splash brothers are your core offensively. Bet you they are grinning ear to ear. They have a player that the defense has to collapse in on and even double team INSIDE the arc. All Durant has to do is kick out and your chemistry is alive and well. Outside game is complemented by inside game. Without needing to chuck within a millisecond they can take open threes with time.

    2nd Durant is not going to GS to be THE man.. Hes going to pick up a ring while he is still in his prime on a team that won it all last year without him, took Durant out this year and came within one game of winning it all again this year.

    the only one really affected is green who will have less to do with offense.

    this is a NO BRAINER and no doubt Lebron is working the phones trying to see who he can get to come over to Cleveland because one thing is skippy. Put Durant on the GS team that just had spurts where the threes were not falling and there is NO WAY you come back to beat them when they are up 3-1. This compliments more than people think. Outside shooting opens up lanes and driving lanes pulls the defense off the perimeter.

    this isn't even like Miami with the big three. this is a team that won it all before the defection. If you want to do a comparison see how badly Birds Celtics would have done if they added Jordan or the show time lakers if they did the same and thats even with Jordan's lousy personality

    They'll be just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    It's interesting, Mike, that a 6'11" guy will be the Dubs best driver to the rim offensively. However, Curry has improved dramatically in that department the last few years and Green and Klay have also. The Warriors struggled in the playoffs because Curry wasn't 100%. I think Durant realized this also.

    The Warriors could just start F'ing with people and put Durant at point guard for large periods of the game. The thing is, how do you guard against such a versatile offense? Green led the Warriors in assists with Curry right behind. Now you got another big who can drive and dish.

    One interesting statistic I saw the past day or so was that the Thunder were last in the league is passes per game last year. The Warriors were last in the league in Mark Jackson's last year as coach. Now they lead the league in assists. I'm sure this was pointed out to Durant also. Passing the ball between unselfish players will only make his job easier and make him even more efficient. I wouldn't be surprised if Durant has his best season ever next year.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

      The Warriors struggled in the playoffs because Curry wasn't 100%. I think Durant realized this also.
      Let it go my man. Give credit where its due. I know that was a bitter pill to swallow after being up 3-1 and almost scheduling the parade but Curry moved around the court just fine and at that point in the season there are always players on a team with a sore this or sore that. Theres no asterisk besides Cleveland's win although again I get why every one in Dubs world wants there to be.Durant joined the GS to put them waaay over the top to get a ring not because he figured he wouldn't be needed.

      The thing is, how do you guard against such a versatile offense?
      You can't. You've now got the ultimate inside outside game which is why all the chemistry talk is off. By mid season it will all work out as there really is no question the dubs will win enough to reach the playoffs. This is better than the oldish center post up and dish at the double team. Durant can break an offense down take it to the hoop and then dish. You could see the old Shaq posting up and dishing out coming from a mile away. You don't know when durant will take it all the way because a drive takes less time that the old school post up back to the basket

      Freaking fantastic pickup and even better is that at this point theres no one in free agency left that can truly counter the move. Wade to Cleveland would have been an interesting counter but only a few years ago before Wade had a history of injuries.

      If theres any bad news this might be a one time deal. Basically it a one year contract with a player option for the second.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm blown away by Durant going to Tim's Warriors. Now, no one has any chance of stopping them from coming out of the west for the 3rd year in a row - unless they get decimated by injuries.

    Congrats Tim!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The Nuggets are making a strong push for Dwyane Wade. Rumors are we're offering him more money than anyone else.

    I have mixed feelings about this. We already have 5 young 6'4"-6'5" players with potential. They really need minutes to develop.

    On the other hand, the Nuggets were last in attendance last year. Wade will bring local and national interest. He could also possibly attract another veteran free agent or two and show the other players that it's OK to come to Denver.

    Because of all the young players we already have at that position, I probably wouldn't do it myself, but I can see why the front office wants to...
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    More than one outlet is reporting he is signing with chicago.

    Really surprised by this - swore Miami would end up resigning him because the fallout in South Florida is going to be great - He is the most beloved player in franchise history
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      More than one outlet is reporting he is signing with chicago.

      Really surprised by this - swore Miami would end up resigning him because the fallout in South Florida is going to be great - He is the most beloved player in franchise history
      Wade said two days ago when discussing the Durant left OKC, "relationships are important, people". Pat Riley looks bad here imo and that not good for their future.

      Wade was partly referring to the friendship Durant has had with Curry and Iguodala since 2010 but also, perhaps, he was eluding to the problems with Riley.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      More than one outlet is reporting he is signing with chicago.

      Really surprised by this - swore Miami would end up resigning him because the fallout in South Florida is going to be great - He is the most beloved player in franchise history
      What are you talking about?? He's washed up, injured etc..etc..

      He is delusional if he thinks he is worth anything close to what he is asking.

      It's ashame "dead horses" do not respectfully just bow out and go to the pasture where they belong.

      Same with Ginoboli,

      sorry Spurs, its the truth
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I have to look at the bright side of things with Wade signing with Chicago. The good news is, Jimmer Fredette is playing on the Nuggets summer league team. /sarcasm

    I have a feeling it's going to be another long season.

    The good news is, we should have close to $60 million in cap space next year, when there's supposed to be a number of quality free agents. In defense of the Nuggets front office, this has been their game plan for a while. The unexpected possibility of getting Wade kind of threw a wrench into these plans.

    BTW, did I ever mention the Broncos won the Super Bowl?
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    More info coming in on Durant's decision. One source says Durant felt the Thunder had plateaued and that there was a concern about the offense relying on hero ball, isolation plays and contested shots. Kind of goes along with what I was thinking earlier about how the team was last in the league in passing.

    Publicly, Durant has always insisted that he loves playing with Russ and that there’s nothing to the whispers about their on-court chemistry issues, but the Thunder’s collapse in the Western Conference Finals last month after taking a 3-1 series lead may have been the breaking point. It seemed to be characterized by a reversion to hero-ball and all-around sloppy play, two of the main criticisms often levied at Westbrook.
    Kevin Durant Reportedly Thought The Thunder Had
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Duncan announces retirement. Doesn't even show up for the Spurs Press Release in this announcement.
    So Ducanish lol. Probably under the hood fixing cars at his Car Lot , Blackjack. His first love

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/sa...143900942.html
    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      Duncan announces retirement. Doesn't even show up for the Spurs Press Release in this announcement.
      So Ducanish lol. Probably under the hood fixing cars at his Car Lot , Blackjack. His first love

      https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/sa...143900942.html
      Little bit different from Kobe's retirement tour. lol Yep, typical Duncan. It will be weird seeing the Spurs play without Duncan. What a great player. One of three players to win over 1000 games in the regular season.

      Anyone watching the summer league? I caught parts of a few games. That Simmons kid does look special. He's one hell of a passer and seems to have a very high bb iq. Kriss Dunn looks like a point guard ready to start for the Timberwolves. He would have to take the job from Rubio but that just may happen. The Timberwolves are going to be tough. The Suns' Devin Booker looked great in the second half of last year and he is continuing to look that way in this summer league. He is going to be an all star. I'm looking forward to the Warriors playing the Lakers tonight and seeing Ingram. The Warriors second round pick Patrick McCaw looked impressive in his first game.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Murray is coming on after a slow start. Our pick at #15 Hernangomez is looking really good and is dominating Bender in the game I'm watching now.
  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    Nate the Great died yesterday. He was one of my favorites growing up. He also was very visable working for the Warriors for decades after his playing days.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/sp...dies.html?_r=0
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  • Profile picture of the author Adsomi
    Is anyone else sort of not excited for next season because of everything that went on during the off season?
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Breaking news: Mike Miller resigns with the Nuggets for two years. Last year Miller averaged 1.3 points and 1.1 rebounds for us. CHAMPIONSHIP!
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Draymond Green Snapchats a pic of his dingdong...says "it ain't no big thang"...
    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Draymond Green Snapchats a pic of his dingdong...says "it ain't no big thang"...
      Good grief, Draymond. Ok, this is getting ridiculous. I'm not sure how much more the owners and management will put up with these "learning experiences". They don't mess around.
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