Adele got Emotional at Grammy

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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Nothing wrong with that. (Your video at least.- I haven't watched the others.) Why?

    Sometimes we mess up and need to start again. Anyone who speaks and/or sings to thousands and thousands of people (live) have my respect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sch88
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      Nothing wrong with that. (Your video at least.- I haven't watched the others.) Why?

      Sometimes we mess up and need to start again. Anyone who speaks and/or sings to thousands and thousands of people (live) have my respect.
      What you said here is absolutely true.
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    She's talanted
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    She sounds like shit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Adele is the only reason I recorded that awards show - fast forwarded through pretty much all of it except her, Bruno Mars and one other act (forget what it was). She was honest enough to admit she was off on the wrong key - and stole the show.

    I watched enough of the talk to shake my head at the arrogance of "stars" who think their entertainment stage is the place for political rants. Beyonce's performance was so theatrical and pretentious - including the speech she gave - I was bored in 30 seconds so fast forwarded. It's a shame as she has a great voice and she's gorgeous but the preggers drama was a bit much.

    I don't usually watch award shows but the 15 minutes or so I watched felt overly staged. Maybe that's normal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Adele is the only reason I recorded that awards show - fast forwarded through pretty much all of it except her, Bruno Mars and one other act (forget what it was). She was honest enough to admit she was off on the wrong key - and stole the show.

      I watched enough of the talk to shake my head at the arrogance of "stars" who think their entertainment stage is the place for political rants. Beyonce's performance was so theatrical and pretentious - including the speech she gave - I was bored in 30 seconds so fast forwarded. It's a shame as she has a great voice and she's gorgeous but the preggers drama was a bit much.

      I don't usually watch award shows but the 15 minutes or so I watched felt overly staged. Maybe that's normal.
      When actors and singers give political speeches on awards shows, I have to ask myself why they do it.

      Are they thinking that people will see them as more socially aware? Are they afraid to disappoint their fans? Are they really that politically involved?

      Then I think about their audience. Movie goers/music fans aren't all liberals. It would seem that these speeches would hurt ticket sales. But maybe the actors/singers know their core audiences more than we do, and are pandering to them, solidifying their base.

      And maybe it's to get more air time (on cable news shows, reporting on the awards show).

      I didn't watch the show, I assume the political speeches were all with a liberal bent.

      I wonder if they are conservative or liberal speeches on a country western music awards show?
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        When actors and singers give political speeches on awards shows, I have to ask myself why they do it.
        Are they thinking that people will see them as more socially aware? Are they afraid to disappoint their fans? Are they really that politically involved?
        Has to be an inflated sense of their own importance, and these hyped-up award ceremonies can only serve to reinforce that.

        In mitigation, when you have millions of raving followers and a media that hangs on your every utterance however banal, it must be difficult to keep a sense of proportion.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Has to be an inflated sense of their own importance, .
          It can't be. That's my thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Has to be an inflated sense of their own importance[, and these hyped-up award ceremonies can only serve to reinforce that.
          Nothing inflated about it. Millions of people place that importance on them. Literally hundreds of millions with Adele.

          They are just there to accept it.

          The fact is they have a HUGE platform that neither me nor you has. And we will never have !! So someone like her takes advantage of it.

          Nothing wrong with that.

          Not always but many time it becomes "inflated importance" when regular people do not agree or on the other side of the celebrity's view point or political stance
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Nothing inflated about it. Millions of people place that importance on them. Literally hundreds of millions with Adele.
            They are just there to accept it.
            The fact is they have a HUGE platform that neither me nor you has. And we will never have !! So someone like her takes advantage of it.
            Nothing wrong with that.
            Not always but many time it becomes "inflated importance" when regular people do not agree or on the other side of the celebrity's view point or political stance
            No. That's called an appeal to authority. When someone is celebrated or has expertise in one field, there is a tendency to attach undue significance to their opinions concerning other, non related matters in which they probably have no more credibility or authority than the rest of the population.

            Celebrities who use their stardom to broadcast views on matters entirely unrelated to their profession or occupation are taking advantage of this logical fallacy. If they further presume that the public wish to hear these views even on occasions when nobody has invited their opinions - e.g. at an awards ceremony - they are displaying an inflated sense of their own importance.
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        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Has to be an inflated sense of their own importance, and these hyped-up award ceremonies can only serve to reinforce that.
          That's why The Whattys are the only awards show with any credibility. Speeches, whether political or not, are banned. Collect your award, siddown, shaddup.

          The only thing that can't be controlled is lunatic dwarves who start wandering around with their helmet in their hands chanting incomprehensible gibberish about Amazons.

          For next year's Whattys the organisers are adopting a zero tolerance approach to uppity dwarves. There will be a team of elven warriors as security guards in case another dwarf, or even the same one, goes loco and disturbs proceedings.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        When actors and singers give political speeches on awards shows, I have to ask myself why they do it.

        Are they thinking that people will see them as more socially aware? Are they afraid to disappoint their fans? Are they really that politically involved?
        Have you ever heard the term radical chic?
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          I got emotional watching Adele sing too. Bored. That's an emotion isn't it? Isn't that two Grammy performances that she screwed up?
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          • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            I got emotional watching Adele sing too. Bored. That's an emotion isn't it? Isn't that two Grammy performances that she screwed up?
            Yeah, it was bad. Even when she restarted, she was off-key for parts of it.
            I guess that's what they consider to be a "professional performance" today.

            Don't think a rehearsal would help much, as she's pretty limited talent-wise.

            Maybe she could partner with Mariah Carey and together they could complete a song.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
    Wow! That was wretched!!

    I doubt even auto-tune, could save that "performance".

    I miss the days when entertainers could give a live performance and deliver the goods.

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Wow. I just watched the video for the first timer. It really was terrible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Wow. I just watched the video for the first timer. It really was terrible.
      I just watched it for the first time too. Yes, it was a train wreck - but to be fair, after she restarted the result was pretty impressive. There's no doubting she has a great voice.

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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        I just watched it for the first time too. Yes, it was a train wreck - but to be fair, after she restarted the result was pretty impressive. There's no doubting she has a great voice.

        ADELE MESSES Up LIVE FAIL Grammy 2017 Demands RESTART After SWEARING IM FU*KING SORRY !! - YouTube
        I only saw the video. I know she has a great voice.


        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        No. That's called an appeal to authority. When someone is celebrated or has expertise in one field, there is a tendency to attach undue significance to their opinions concerning other, non related matters in which they probably have no more credibility or authority than the rest of the population.

        Celebrities who use their stardom to broadcast views on matters entirely unrelated to their profession or occupation are taking advantage of this logical fallacy. If they further presume that the public wish to hear these views even on occasions when nobody has invited their opinions - e.g. at an awards ceremony - they are displaying an inflated sense of their own importance.
        I was going to offer my opinion on this...and then it hit me that I know nothing about music or musicians. So, I would be 'appealing to authority".

        And then I realized that my ego is bigger than any lack of knowledge I possess...so I'm going to assume everyone wants to hear what I think on the subject.

        Adele is an Angel, and when she was crying...I knew it was because of me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I only saw the video. I know she has a great voice.
          I know you know she has a great voice. And now I'm hoping that you know I know you know she has a great voice.

          But what do I know?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    The most emotional song I've seen performed for a long time was by Kelly Clarkson who broke down near the end of the song...I was crying with her because the song was so "connected".


    I admire both Clarkson and Adele - great talents who aren't trying to look like or be like anyone else. Both of them are all about the music.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    All these award ceremonies are nothing but opportunities for self aggrandizement for most of these pompous celebs...

    Get up receive your award thank a few people and get off the stage!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    So someone like her takes advantage of it.
    To be clear - Adele did not make a political statement - the ones who did aren't up to her level of talent. The cameras showed the audience and a few eye rolls at the comments....
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Chapple
    Met her a couple of times in the Old Red Lion Islington London, charming person a good stand up comic but that was several years ago. Strange thread for WF though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Gary Chapple View Post

      Strange thread for WF though.
      For the OT section? Not even close.
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    She's really talented and one of the best voice I've heard
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