Windows 10 the Good, Bad and Ugly!

by tagiscom 31 replies
Seems to be two camps about w10, (10) some like it and others hate it.

I tend to hate it, because of its clunky navigation, mish-mash of transparencies, and Photoshop destroying capabilities.

But it is best to get a second opinion, or several....




I know this kid likes to say "so Stupid" but he has a lot of good reasons.

Then we have this poor guy....



But to be fair this guy likes 10, well....


And this one, which took to long to start, but l don't think that he was happy?


And this, (for some reason YT is slow tonight) but l am pretty sure this guy had serious software issues, and suffered from the looping issue l had but not as bad.


Look like satisfied, customers to me!


As some of these people says, "don't update to 10, you will regret it."

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    You found some isolated issues of people who had problems with Windows 10.

    The one guy didn't have any of his passwords backed up. That is his dumbass fault.

    Some people don't like the forced updates. For 99.9% of users, it's a nonissue.

    I can find just as many people that say positive things about Windows 10.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...s+10&tbm=vid&*

    You are just mad because Adobe has let down its customers by not issuing an update to CS2, and you refuse to upgrade to one of their new versions that works just fine in Windows 10.

    Oh, and here are a ton of people that hate Windows 7.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...te+windows+7&*

    And we cannot forget about the people that hate Windows XP...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...e+windows+xp&*


    Just because someone makes a video about it doesn't mean it represents the majority's feelings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    I started back in the 90's with MS-DOS. I have at least briefly used every MS operating system since then except Vista and maybe one or two others.

    In my opinion... for what I use my computer for... in my world... W10 is the best operating system I have ever used. It has worked perfectly with every one of many dozens of software programs I regularly throw at it. I have never had an issue with any updates. It is the fastest os I have ever used.

    To be fair I did not watch the videos. Other people's computer problems don't usually interest me. I do know a few people that have had problems but they are always using older computers, software that isn't current, or they have tried to needlessly "customize" or tweak W10.
  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

    You found some isolated issues of people who had problems with Windows 10.

    The one guy didn't have any of his passwords backed up. That is his dumbass fault.

    Some people don't like the forced updates. For 99.9% of users, it's a nonissue.

    I can find just as many people that say positive things about Windows 10.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...s+10&tbm=vid&*

    You are just mad because Adobe has let down its customers by not issuing an update to CS2, and you refuse to upgrade to one of their new versions that works just fine in Windows 10.

    Oh, and here are a ton of people that hate Windows 7.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...te+windows+7&*

    And we cannot forget about the people that hate Windows XP...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...e+windows+xp&*


    Just because someone makes a video about it doesn't mean it represents the majority's feelings.
    Ok, ok, fair point, although XP and w7 are actually the best out of the bunch, so some idiots will hate anything.

    And you might see it as Adobe not issuing an update, l see it as an intentional security update that does nothing for the OS, that l can see, but it cripples cs2 every time.

    Installed the update on my old Laptop, and every time without fail it stuffed it up, (worked perfectly before that).

    There is big money here for Adobe, to suck up to Microsoft to cripple Adobe suite cs2, (which still costs around $2,500, updated version only, the old one isn't available anymore).

    Virtually all Laptops out there with the exception of Apple, can now cripple $2,5k software within a few days of installing it. The software worked perfectly on 10, at least til the next day, and the first update was a sneaky one, l didn't even know that it did it, but the next day l could certainly see its affects.

    And it stuffs up Photoshop, Illustrator.

    You might see it as a harmless update, but considering how fast it crippled it, l think otherwise.

    Apparently Adobe isn't doing any stand alone versions of Adobe Suite packages anymore, (no surprizes there) the latest one is all cloud only.

    So l p**** away $700 a year in order to use Photoshop and illustrator, F*** that!

    I got the latest Toshiba, pulled that ugly crap off, (if some users like ugly then,...more power to them) installed Windows 7 Pro, permanently turned off updates, and saved myself $2,5k!


    The other thing about 10 is it spies on your every move, l guess that means that some here also like someone looking over there shoulders, and throwing advertising at them if they install something new?

    After installing cs2, l had two adobe ad's pop up, every time l turned on the machine. The ad's weren't there when l installed the 1 month free trial version.

    Even without the cs2 issue, navigation is clunky, having to scroll down trice for System, is annoying. Try it on 7, much better.

    Try out the calculator on 10 and compare that with 7. 10 has an ugly white space around it, 7 has a beautiful transparent space around it.

    I guess some will love anything that moves?

    Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

    I started back in the 90's with MS-DOS. I have at least briefly used every MS operating system since then except Vista and maybe one or two others.

    In my opinion... for what I use my computer for... in my world... W10 is the best operating system I have ever used. It has worked perfectly with every one of many dozens of software programs I regularly throw at it. I have never had an issue with any updates. It is the fastest os I have ever used.

    To be fair I did not watch the videos. Other people's computer problems don't usually interest me. I do know a few people that have had problems but they are always using older computers, software that isn't current, or they have tried to needlessly "customize" or tweak W10.
    Best so far......l doubt that anyone can argue with that!

  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Same old same old, you hate Windows 10. Nothing new under the sun. Some people like to hear them talk. Mean while the rest of us who use 10 enjoy it. Heard the same thing to about Vista and what came out of Vista - Windows 7.

    My laptop top had 8 on it and it auto updated to 10 it works better. Same with the desktop it had Windows 7 Pro on it, with upgrade to 10 already to be installed once Micro soft released it. Same thing the Windows 10 OS is better then both.
  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Here we go again. 10 is the last Windows, they will continually update it, upgrade it until something entirely new is created. Running Windows 7 or 8 so you can run your 11 year old version of CS2 is using a ticking timebomb. Your machine will die, support for 7 and 8 will disappear. No new machine will run it.

    A few years and your stuffed and you will have to buy the new version of Adobe.

    In any-case, your beef should not be with Windows/Microsoft, it should be with Adobe for charging a premium price for it, for having the audacity not to support an 11 year old version.

    Thing is, it is a Premium, Professionally used product, it is the industry standard. (My wife uses the suite as a Professional Graphic Designer in the College educational system that we both work it.)

    If you want it, you have to pay just like anyone else. Adobe can be excused for moving on in 11 years. Perhaps you should too.

    In any case, the sort of stuff you produce for clients could easily be created using much cheaper clones that are around. You should seriously investigate some of them.

    I think you are so entrenched in what you have, so locked in and so familiar with it's usage that you are scared to try anything else. Ultimately you will lose.

    Get a loan save up and buy Adobe if you must have it, or pay the yearly Cloud rental fee, the way the industry is moving anyway.

    But do not knock the platform it runs on. Do not take out your frustrations on Windows or Microsoft. Completely the wrong way of looking at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      Here we go again. 10 is the last Windows, they will continually update it, upgrade it until something entirely new is created. Running Windows 7 or 8 so you can run your 11 year old version of CS2 is using a ticking timebomb. Your machine will die, support for 7 and 8 will disappear. No new machine will run it.

      A few years and your stuffed and you will have to buy the new version of Adobe.

      In any-case, your beef should not be with Windows/Microsoft, it should be with Adobe for charging a premium price for it, for having the audacity not to support an 11 year old version.

      Thing is, it is a Premium, Professionally used product, it is the industry standard. (My wife uses the suite as a Professional Graphic Designer in the College educational system that we both work it.)

      If you want it, you have to pay just like anyone else. Adobe can be excused for moving on in 11 years. Perhaps you should too.

      In any case, the sort of stuff you produce for clients could easily be created using much cheaper clones that are around. You should seriously investigate some of them.

      I think you are so entrenched in what you have, so locked in and so familiar with it's usage that you are scared to try anything else. Ultimately you will lose.

      Get a loan save up and buy Adobe if you must have it, or pay the yearly Cloud rental fee, the way the industry is moving anyway.

      But do not knock the platform it runs on. Do not take out your frustrations on Windows or Microsoft. Completely the wrong way of looking at it.
      Update it, lol. Most updates are data fluff, or do nothing, and l can update any drivers for w7p if l need to.

      It won't stuff up, w7 is very stable, and XP is as well, probably explains why XP on my PC that hasn't been updated for 2 years is running perfectly!

      And on the rare occasion that cs2 stuffs up l just reinstall it.

      Unless l want to do logos, very little difference between cs2 and 5.

      I have tried all other options, cs2 stands alone, unfortunately.


      Well Adobe worked with Microsoft to deliver this s**t so l am p***d a both companies.

      I think you are so entrenched in what you have, so locked in and so familiar with it's usage that you are scared to try anything else. Ultimately you will lose.
      Scared no, the closest thing is Gimp, and that is crap by comparison.

      Ultimately l will lose, not really, my current laptop will probably last me til 2025, and the suite with it. After that, if 10 is still creeping about, with no other options l will go over to Apple.

      And be forced to buy cs5, so l won't lose with being cornered into using a crap OS, but will have to buy cs5 in about 7 years time, when l am in a much better financial position and can afford it.

  • Profile picture of the author raji96
    In my point of view window 10 is not suitable for all because windows 10 has software issue as well as the looping issue.
    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by raji96 View Post

      In my point of view window 10 is not suitable for all because windows 10 has software issue as well as the looping issue.
      Thanks Raji96, l was beginning to think that it was "I Love Windows 10" fan club over here.

      Probably more like, "l installed it, so l am trying to love it" sort of deal.


      I got it with my Laptop, and used it for a few days. I agree that on the surface it looks nice, but dig deeper, and the bland tabs and frames appear. Some may not care about aesthetics, but l am not going to be stuck with seeing that for the foreseeable future.

      And in some instances, (l did some research) the blue screen looping issue may resolve itself, (may being the key word).

      From what l recently read the updates are becoming more aggressive, or updating to 10, is falling in the recommended category, and Microsoft is also getting sneaky and hiding it.

      One person set some updates going and by the time he looked at his Laptop 10 was 10% installed.

      He was using his Laptop for something important and didn't want to update, so let's just say the grammer became colorful.

    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by raji96 View Post

      In my point of view window 10 is not suitable for all because windows 10 has software issue as well as the looping issue.
      Hi Big Frank !!! And if you are not are you an Apple user by any chance

      Shane get over it, you love windows 7 noting wrong with it. But enough of bashing windows 10 not everybody likes it. (it's fun busting your chops, and watching Frank do the same)
  • Profile picture of the author flamma
    I just took the leap from Win 7 to 10. I did some research and found out that the LTSB Enterprise version is the only option for me. You can easily stop Microsoft "spying" on you. And it has no adware and bloatware you find in home and pro.

    Edit: It runs perfectly on my old AMD system. No driver issues. I even installed an old Windows 7 driver for my soundcard.
    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by flamma View Post

      I just took the leap from Win 7 to 10. I did some research and found out that the LTSB Enterprise version is the only option for me. You can easily stop Microsoft "spying" on you. And it has no adware and bloatware you find in home and pro.

      Edit: It runs perfectly on my old AMD system. No driver issues. I even installed an old Windows 7 driver for my soundcard.
      Interesting, keep us updated.

      I had Windows 10 Pro on my one, didn't make much of a difference though.

  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Yes, it is probably the best one, but it still has fleas.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/273824/win...tsb-explained/

    Need to be a company with this and that to get it, but it sounds like a version that won't go into an endless loop one day?

    It also is relatively crap free, (l got a fresh install of w7 pro, so no crap) but it does not stop security updates, and you have more control over data being sent to Microsoft, but not 100% control.

    So there is a Rolls Royce version, but still a lemon.

    A security update is the one that crippled cs2 suite, so better but....

  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom

    This video pretty much sums up w10.

    As l said before, 7 is the most stable one.

    The blue screen of death, and other serious issues. Yes, l used it for a few days and had the blue screen one.

    Also interesting what he said about Apple. Yep, l will go over to Apple in the next 7 years, unless Microsoft, gets their act together.

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