# Turn \$1000 into \$2000 now. How? Please!?

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I want to turn 1000\$ into 2000\$. How to do that now? Real solutions only please.
•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez I want to turn 1000\$ into 2000\$. How to do that now? Real solutions only please.

Walk into a casino and find a roulette wheel. Put your \$1000 down on black. You have a 50/50 shot.

Post pics and let us know how it goes.
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• Does that work?
I can sense sarcasm.
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•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez Does that work? I can sense sarcasm.
50% of the time it works every time.
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•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez Does that work? I can sense sarcasm.
You are a very perceptive person. Of course it works - as stated - 50% of the time (give or take). Do you feel lucky?

Thank you.
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•  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman Walk into a casino and find a roulette wheel. Put your \$1000 down on black. You have a 50/50 shot. Post pics and let us know how it goes.
But it isn't 50/50. On a typical American roulette wheel there's 18 red, 18 black and two green spaces. The two greens make it a less than 50/50 proposition.

A better bet, closer to 50/50 would be to bet it on the "Don't Pass" on the craps table.
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•  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman Walk into a casino and find a roulette wheel. Put your \$1000 down on black. You have a 50/50 shot. Post pics and let us know how it goes.
HOT TIP â€” you can increaseya odds to 100% ifya bet AFTER the wheel has spun.

Speculation becomes FACT, tellya.

Jus' point at the color you want â€” an' nail it EVRY TIME.
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•  Originally Posted by Princess Balestra HOT TIP â€” you can increaseya odds to 100% ifya bet AFTER the wheel has spun. Speculation becomes FACT, tellya. Jus' point at the color you want â€” an' nail it EVRY TIME.

Claude did this but he pointed at a car wheel and lost.
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•  I can sense sarcasm.
Ya think? Did you ask a reasonable question? Nope.

What have you done so far? Do you have a site/blog? Experience? What are your skills/knowledge? How do you plan to earn (what online method)?

How fast do you expect to double your money? Do you HAVE \$1k to spend starting a business online?

If your only focus is 'money for me' you have a long way to go. The basis for a 'real solution' is "what do I have to offer others"
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•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez I want to turn 1000\$ into 2000\$. How to do that now? Real solutions only please.
How do l do that now, geesh, and l thought that the newbies posting on mind warriors was nauseating.

I am currently turning about phew, a few thousand into \$1000, but it will take a few months of hard work doing flyers, and gaining profits from sales.

And that amount is constantly expanding recurring income, so it probably goes past what you are after.

This is based on years learning about Photoshop, \$500 worth of graphic elements, years of doing flyers, and about 2k, investing into Laptops and external hard drives.

Then using all of those tools and knowledge and working hard for at least a 3 to 6 months for the 1k profit.

Turn 1k to 2k now, lol, go and apply for a credit card!

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•  I am currently turning about phew, a few thousand into \$1000, but it will take a few months of hard work doing flyers, and gaining profits from sales.
Don't know how to break this to you - but if you are turning a few thousand into \$1000....you are turning the lever the wrong way...just sayin'...
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•  Originally Posted by Kay King Don't know how to break this to you - but if you are turning a few thousand into \$1000....you are turning the lever the wrong way...just sayin'...
He has also reached his maximum potential.

Thank you.
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• all you need is a texta and \$1000 note
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• Actually the opposite of what you responded to is what I asked,
Simple questions have answers too. Why not ask those questions to have answers someone will actually use.
Occam's Razor. Don't make it difficult.
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•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez Actually the opposite of what you responded to is what I asked, Simple questions have answers too. Why not ask those questions to have answers someone will actually use. Occam's Razor. Don't make it difficult.
Sean

Mate you posted in the off topic section hence the answers and the fact this has been asked many times or if you were to use the search tab you would find answers you are looking for
OR you could just put it all on RED
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•  Simple questions have answers too.
The question is definitely simple - but the answer isn't. You can't be bothered to answer questions in the thread you started - but expect others to drop what they are doing and explain how YOU can double your money.

If there were a simple answer (Occam's Razor) - everyone on the forum would be rich, wouldn't they?
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• Yeah. And I want the answer. You got it?
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• Yep - got it.

Oops, dropped it. Shucky darn.
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•  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman 50% of the time it works every time.
You forgot the zero, so it works, less than 50% of the time.

 Originally Posted by Kay King Don't know how to break this to you - but if you are turning a few thousand into \$1000....you are turning the lever the wrong way...just sayin'...
 Originally Posted by OptedIn He has also reached his maximum potential. Thank you.
 Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre You should write a book. How To Turn A few Thousand Dollars Into A Thousand Dollars In Cash, In Only 90 Days..by Shane. I hope it turns into a movie.
And l also said, increasing potential,.........meaning, if l start out with zero flyers and work, hard for a year, and invest a few thousand, then l will end up with about \$1,300 a month after a year., (but true, for the first 1k profit, l am behind).

Then make substantially more than that, regardless if l do any more after that or not, since the first year is working and adding, and the second year or starting off with 600 flyers instead of zero, will make considerably more over that year.

Phew, hopefully l don't need to use diagrams, although a few here might need them?

Maximum potential, lol, sure when l get into the 3% highest income bracket, l might be reaching the ceiling?

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• A good e-commerce business, pay per call or pay per click campaign can make 100% ROI. Invest \$1,000, turn it into \$2,000 and repeat but start small and compound... If you can turn \$5 into \$10 each day then you can work your way up to turning \$1,000 into \$2,000 every day.

But if you need to turn \$1,000 into \$2,000 right now then I don't know. There are no short cuts. You need to think long term.
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•  Originally Posted by jbuk ...pay per call or pay per click campaign can make 100% ROI and just as easily lose 100% of your money.

Fixed it...
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•  Originally Posted by yukon Fixed it...
That's why you start small and test until you can achieve a 100% ROI by turning \$5 into \$10, then once that's working you scale up so you don't lose.
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•  Originally Posted by yukon Fixed it...
Donnie Downer. You'd never see me make such a negative comment. What happened to 'If you believe it will happen for you?"
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre Mike: You're always saying something brilliant half the time.
You mean I got it wrong . . . I thought he said something half-brilliant all of the time.
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•  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill You mean I got it wrong . . . I thought he said something half-brilliant all of the time.
Dennis!

Mike is sometimes saying great things much of the time, but he doesn't not say great things some of the time.

It isn't that Mike doesn't say great things...it's that they aren't great before he says them. And that is nearly all the time, half the time....when he takes the time.

Oh hell....it's Quantum Physics!
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre Dennis! Mike is sometimes saying great things much of the time, but he doesn't not say great things some of the time. It isn't that Mike doesn't say great things...it's that they aren't great before he says them. And that is nearly all the time, half the time....when he takes the time. Oh hell....it's Quantum Physics!
And the greatest Quantum Physicist of all time is Nelson Mandela. He gets it right and says great things 50 percent of the time.

And that's what you call a Half Nelson
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 And the greatest Quantum Physicist of all time is Nelson Mandela. He gets it right and says great things 50 percent of the time. And that's what you call a Half Nelson
Do you think the Nelson is half full or half empty?

It's a philosophical question.
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre Do you think the Nelson is half full or half empty? It's a philosophical question.
All possible outcomes are being played out simultaneously so he is both...and neither

And that's a scientific theory about quantum physics and string's
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre Dennis! Mike is sometimes saying great things much of the time, but he doesn't not say great things some of the time. It isn't that Mike doesn't say great things...it's that they aren't great before he says them. And that is nearly all the time, half the time....when he takes the time. Oh hell....it's Quantum Physics!

Maybe it's just too many Krispy Kreme donuts?
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre Oh hell....it's Quantum Physics!
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•  Originally Posted by Seanh Lopez I want to turn 1000\$ into 2000\$. How to do that now? Real solutions only please.
Go into a casino and change your thousand into 20 dollar bills, put one 20 dollar bill at a time into a slot machine of your choice and bet 60 cents per go. You will find that most of the time you will go over the 20 at some point. If you do, cash out immediately and put the ticket aside, start with a new 20 dollar bill and carry on like that on that machine or switch to another. The best machines to go for are the ones that pay out smaller amounts more frequently, the old mechanical three bar machines are less likely to do this.

Although you will lose a few 20's you will find that overall you will turn a small profit, wash rinse repeat until you have doubled your money. It is boring and tedious but it works. You can test and do this with just a hundred dollars. You may just be a few dollars in profit at the end or you might find you have 50 extra.Build up to doubling the hundred and then just use the casino's 100 as the stake money.

Most people who visit a casino are either compulsive gamblers or much more commonly, people who take as much money that they can afford to lose and enjoy playing until it's gone. Most people seeing that they have gone over their original stake will say, now I am using the casino's money to gamble with and just carry on, going up and down till it's gone, hoping for a bigger win. The casino's rely on this mentality.

If your not greedy though and can sustain this method and be disciplined about it you will slowly double your money.
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 Go into a casino and change your thousand into 20 dollar bills, put one 20 dollar bill at a time into a slot machine of your choice and bet 60 cents per go. You will find that most of the time you will go over the 20 at some point. If you do, cash out immediately and put the ticket aside, start with a new 20 dollar bill and carry on like that on that machine or switch to another. The best machines to go for are the ones that pay out smaller amounts more frequently, the old mechanical three bar machines are less likely to do this. Although you will lose a few 20's you will find that overall you will turn a small profit, wash rinse repeat until you have doubled your money. It is boring and tedious but it works. You can test and do this with just a hundred dollars. You may just be a few dollars in profit at the end or you might find you have 50 extra.Build up to doubling the hundred and then just use the casino's 100 as the stake money. Most people who visit a casino are either compulsive gamblers or much more commonly, people who take as much money that they can afford to lose and enjoy playing until it's gone. Most people seeing that they have gone over their original stake will say, now I am using the casino's money to gamble with and just carry on, going up and down till it's gone, hoping for a bigger win. The casino's rely on this mentality. If your not greedy though and can sustain this method and be disciplined about it you will slowly double your money.
Sorry, this isn't a method it's a myth. No betting system can overcome a disadvantage.

Not to mention, the more times you play at a disadvantage to more likely you are to lose. This is why for an uneducated gambler whose goal is to double a bankroll, their best option is to place a single bet on the Don't Pass line in craps, as craps has something like a 1.4 disadvantage, which is the best in the casino unless you count cards or are an excellent poker players (or progressive jackpots reach a certain point). Slots are typically a 6-10% disadvantage.

A betting "strategy" doesn't change these odds and the disadvantage is compounded every time a bet is made. The slot fairies don't care that you use a different \$20 bill or not...and neither do the casinos.
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•  Originally Posted by Kurt Sorry, this isn't a method it's a myth. No betting system can overcome a disadvantage. Not to mention, the more times you play at a disadvantage to more likely you are to lose. This is why for an uneducated gambler whose goal is to double a bankroll, their best option is to place a single bet on the Don't Pass line in craps, as craps has something like a 1.4 disadvantage, which is the best in the casino unless you count cards or are an excellent poker players (or progressive jackpots reach a certain point). Slots are typically a 6-10% disadvantage. A betting "strategy" doesn't change these odds and the disadvantage is compounded every time a bet is made. The slot fairies don't care that you use a different \$20 bill or not...and neither do the casinos.
Say's the guy who has never tried it and succeeded with it multiple times in a row. The only thing that would and has stopped me is lack of discipline. The other reason was that it was not my livelihood. I was not depending on going to the casino and trying to extract 100 bucks out of it on a daily basis because my living depended on it.

I have have done sessions and come out of it with just a few bucks profit on a hundred. I have done sometimes as much as 59 bucks on a hundred. It varies a lot but never been down on it, lost on it or broken even, always a slight, or higher profit.

The reason it works has to do with the percentage returns you get and when to stop. and the presence of bonus rounds (free spins) that always yields some sort of return. That's why you bet around 50-60 cents because it gives you many goes. The bonus payouts and normal payout's will in all cases collectively surpass your total stake. You may lose a 20 once or twice out of the five 20 dollar plays but have likely collectively won 50, So you end up with ten profit.

The proof of the pudding is to try it, not to pour scorn or blast it with conjecture.

The return on the slots is statistically 86 to 90 percent. So if you continued playing on them with one stake you would ultimately lose it, of course. However, if you break the patterns of play that most people use you can turn a profit each time.
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 Say's the guy who has never tried it and succeeded with it multiple times in a row. The only thing that would and has stopped me is lack of discipline. The other reason was that it was not my livelihood. I was not depending on going to the casino and trying to extract 100 bucks out of it on a daily basis because my living depended on it. I have have done sessions and come out of it with just a few bucks profit on a hundred. I have done sometimes as much as 59 bucks on a hundred. It varies a lot but never been down on it, lost on it or broken even, always a slight, or higher profit. The reason it works has to do with the percentage returns you get and when to stop. and the presence of bonus rounds (free spins) that always yields some sort of return. That's why you bet around 50-60 cents because it gives you many goes. The bonus payouts and normal payout's will in all cases collectively surpass your total stake. You may lose a 20 once or twice out of the five 20 dollar plays but have likely collectively won 50, So you end up with ten profit. The proof of the pudding is to try it, not to pour scorn or blast it with conjecture. The return on the slots is statistically 86 to 90 percent. So if you continued playing on them with one stake you would ultimately lose it, of course. However, if you break the patterns of play that most people use you can turn a profit each time.
Correction, says the guy who was a semi pro gambler and one of the first published gambling experts for About.com's Luna Network. I'm speaking MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY.

There's no patterns to break, you're lying to yourself. Slots are random BY LAW and have no mathematical memory, unlike a deck of cards which is why skill becomes a factor when playing cards. It doesn't matter if you wait 5 seconds or 5 hours or 5 days when playing slots. Using your numbers, you're still at a 10-14% disadvantage regardless of past results or how you manage your bankroll.

Why would I try something I know FACTUALLY is a loser, just as I know that if I have a billion dollars and double it, I'd have two billion. I don't need to be a billionaire to use MATH.

Let's make this real. I'll put 10 red buttons in a brown paper bag and 90 blue buttons. Every time you pull out a red button, you win. Every time you pull a blue one, I win. It doesn't matter what pattern you play. All that matters are there's 10 red and 90 blue.

The same thing would apply if there were 42 red and 58 blue, closer to actual slot odds. Sure, you may win after a couple of pulls, but the more buttons you pull the more likely I am to win. And it doesn't matter what "pattern" you play.

I've dealt with a lot of gamblers over my life that claim to have it all figured out. But when I actually put them to a test they all failed, except one, who also happened to be a card counter. There was one other guy that only bet Ivy League schools in football that claimed to be a winner and his reasoning did make some sense to me, but I never actually tested him.

But you slot players that claim you can beat the laws of physics? LOL

Why use your "patterns" at a game with approx.. a 93% payback (Las Vegas odds on a quarter machine) when you can bet the same patterns on the craps Don't Pass with a 98.6 percent payback? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Let me know when a slots "pattern better" is banned from a Las Vegas casino. I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.
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•  Originally Posted by Kurt Correction, says the guy who was a semi pro gambler and one of the first published gambling experts for About.com's Luna Network. I'm speaking MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY. There's no patterns to break, you're lying to yourself. Slots are random BY LAW and have no mathematical memory, unlike a deck of cards which is why skill becomes a factor when playing cards. It doesn't matter if you wait 5 seconds or 5 hours or 5 days when playing slots. Using your numbers, you're still at a 10-14% disadvantage regardless of past results or how you manage your bankroll. Why would I try something I know FACTUALLY is a loser, just as I know that if I have a billion dollars and double it, I'd have two billion. I don't need to be a billionaire to use MATH. Let's make this real. I'll put 10 red buttons in a brown paper bag and 90 blue buttons. Every time you pull out a red button, you win. Every time you pull a blue one, I win. It doesn't matter what pattern you play. All that matters are there's 10 red and 90 blue. The same thing would apply if there were 42 red and 58 blue, closer to actual slot odds. Sure, you may win after a couple of pulls, but the more buttons you pull the more likely I am to win. And it doesn't matter what "pattern" you play. I've dealt with a lot of gamblers over my life that claim to have it all figured out. But when I actually put them to a test they all failed, except one, who also happened to be a card counter. There was one other guy that only bet Ivy League schools in football that claimed to be a winner and his reasoning did make some sense to me, but I never actually tested him. But you slot players that claim you can beat the laws of physics? LOL Why use your "patterns" at a game with approx.. a 93% payback (Las Vegas odds on a quarter machine) when you can bet the same patterns on the craps Don't Pass with a 98.6 percent payback? Doesn't make any sense to me. Let me know when a slots "pattern better" is banned from a Las Vegas casino. I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.
The slot machines paying out is not a truly random distribution. Having played them alot, you can clearly see that the payout's are clustered with cold periods of play and periods where they are clustered again but with smaller payouts. I would like to know how the statistics pan out, the 86-90 percent ratio, and over what period of time is this calculated. A day, month, year, life of the machine etc. No one seems to have that answer.

You can go on a machine and hit a whole series of wins in a row. If it were truly random, then yes, it could happen, but nowhere near as often as it does with such frequency when I play them. Machines definitely blow hot and cold.

I take it that just because you were a pro gambler you never touched the slots?
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 The slot machines paying out is not a truly random distribution.
Slot machine use random number generators. There is no pattern, other than the percentage of payout.

And because they use random number generators, switching machines makes no difference. And putting a \$20 in a different pocket....thinking you are restarting a sequence is just silly.

 Originally Posted by lanfear63 I would like to know how the statistics pan out, the 86-90 percent ratio, and over what period of time is this calculated. A day, month, year, life of the machine etc. No one seems to have that answer.
The answer is that the machine pays out it's programmed percentage continually. The random number generator spits out random plays a billion times a second. It's literally impossible to have a pattern of payouts, no matter your speed of play or which machine you use.

It's like flipping a coin. You may get "heads" five times in a row, but after 1,000 flips, it's always nearly exactly 50/50. But the Random Number generator in a slot machine "flips the coin" a billion times each second, so the percentage of payouts is exact, almost instantly.
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 Go into a casino and change your thousand into 20 dollar bills, put one 20 dollar bill at a time into a slot machine of your choice and bet 60 cents per go. You will find that most of the time you will go over the 20 at some point. If you do, cash out immediately and put the ticket aside, start with a new 20 dollar bill and carry on like that on that machine or switch to another. The best machines to go for are the ones that pay out smaller amounts more frequently, the old mechanical three bar machines are less likely to do this. Although you will lose a few 20's you will find that overall you will turn a small profit, wash rinse repeat until you have doubled your money. It is boring and tedious but it works. You can test and do this with just a hundred dollars. You may just be a few dollars in profit at the end or you might find you have 50 extra.Build up to doubling the hundred and then just use the casino's 100 as the stake money. Most people who visit a casino are either compulsive gamblers or much more commonly, people who take as much money that they can afford to lose and enjoy playing until it's gone. Most people seeing that they have gone over their original stake will say, now I am using the casino's money to gamble with and just carry on, going up and down till it's gone, hoping for a bigger win. The casino's rely on this mentality. If your not greedy though and can sustain this method and be disciplined about it you will slowly double your money.
You are aware that the machines are actually built to pay out up to 85 cents in every dollar that goes into them, aren't you? Or to put it another way, they're built to KEEP at least 15 cents of every dollar that gets put into them.

Due to the immutable laws of mathematics, the more times you play them, the less likely you are to actually break even, let alone profit.
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•  Originally Posted by whateverpedia You are aware that the machines are actually built to pay out up to 85 cents in every dollar that goes into them, aren't you? Or to put it another way, they're built to KEEP at least 15 cents of every dollar that gets put into them. Due to the immutable laws of mathematics, the more times you play them, the less likely you are to actually break even, let alone profit.

But the casino buffet?
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•  Originally Posted by yukon But the casino buffet?
What sort of odds does it offer?
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•  Originally Posted by whateverpedia What sort of odds does it offer?

The odds are pretty good, 5 out of 6 people won't get sick or die from eating tainted food.

 CDC estimates that each year roughly 1 in 6 Americans (or 48 million people) gets sick, 128,000 are hospitalized, and 3,000 die of foodborne diseases.
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•  Originally Posted by yukon The odds are pretty good, 5 out of 6 people won't get sick or die from eating tainted food.
As good as the odds for Russian Roulette then.
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•  Originally Posted by whateverpedia As good as the odds for Russian Roulette then.

A sneeze guard at the buffet increases the odds in your favor by 0.87%.
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•  Originally Posted by whateverpedia What sort of odds does it offer?
Pretty good, a guaranteed win every time based on your stake money and what you win is as much food as you can cram into your stomach.

The reality is though, the true value of the food does not add up to the amount bet.

There is is only one documented case of someone coming away in profit on this in Vegas.

A Mr C Whitacre
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 Pretty good, a guaranteed win every time based on your stake money and what you win is as much food as you can cram into your stomach. The reality is though, the true value of the food does not add up to the amount bet. There is is only one documented case of someone coming away in profit on this in Vegas. A Mr C Whitacre
I just wanted to say (I know the jokes are being written as I speak) that the buffet at the Sahara hotel was about as good as it got. An inexpensive hotel/casino with a great buffet. I always stayed there when I went on a speaking engagement of attended a meeting held in Las Vegas. Several years ago, I went to the buffet and saw that it was closed. And shortly afterward they tore down the casino.

I used to just sit at a table in the restaurant, working and listening to the conversations around me. The most entertaining ones were the small time criminals bragging to each other.....or the young people talking about how they are going to win big in Las Vegas.
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre I just wanted to say (I know the jokes are being written as I speak) that the buffet at the Sahara hotel was about as good as it got. An inexpensive hotel/casino with a great buffet. I always stayed there when I went on a speaking engagement of attended a meeting held in Las Vegas. Several years ago, I went to the buffet and saw that it was closed. And shortly afterward they tore down the casino. I used to just sit at a table in the restaurant, working and listening to the conversations around me. The most entertaining ones were the small time criminals bragging to each other.....or the young people talking about how they are going to win big in Las Vegas.
Should have tried the Circus Circus buffet...all you can gag down for \$5.95.
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•  Originally Posted by Kurt Should have tried the Circus Circus buffet...all you can gag down for \$5.95.
Is that the casino that has the great seafood buffet for about \$40? It's been a few years, but it was amazing.

By the way, about 10 years ago, A group of us found a casino/restaurant that had the greatest steak dinners for (I think) \$7.95. We had to wait 90 minutes in the casino before thy called us. I sat with my friend and watched him lose about \$500 at Blackjack.

We are both marketers, and we were discussing that the owners probably tested how long they could keep us in the casino before we would just leave. I guess the optimum time as 90 minutes.

And when we finally sat down to eat, there were plenty of empty tables. We laughed because it was obvious what they were doing, but the marketer in us appreciated the lesson.

But man....that steak was worth the weight (I know, I thought it was funny)
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•  WOOHOO, I'M ALL IN!!!!
You wild person, you.

I'm in \$20 - as are 10 other people I know - we win, we share...we don't win, we have fun anyway.
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• A young girl came here a few years ago, at least the user name and photo were of a young girl. She asked basically the same question. My answer got deleted and I got an infraction. It involved finding a Navy base

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•  No one seems to have that answer.
Yes, they do. They don't know just when a machine will hit - but they know what that machine is programmed to payout and over what period of time.

I always remember the very talkative fellow who was playing \$10 slot machines because "they pay out 96%". He went on to tell me he usually put about \$1000 dollars in at least one of those slots...again...."because they payout 96%".

So I told him if he gave me \$1000 I'd give him \$960 for it all day and all night long.
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• All you had to do was invest 1,000.00 in Bitcoin in January. Today's current price is \$3638.

Source - https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price/

As they say, you gotta pay to play !
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•  Originally Posted by yukon Maybe it's just too many Krispy Kreme donuts?
Sorry yukon, l distinctively remember that Krispy Kreme, has an A in it somewhere, when l was a kid.

When Mandela died in prison and came back to life and Jaws girlfriend got brakes and the world went downhill from there.

But l am sure that Man Made Global Warming is real. (ignoring the evil NOAA site, and Mass Media telling us that the mini ice age is real, in the 70's, and other solid proof, evil sites) so l have no need to desperately cling onto this information, (for want of a better word).

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• Casino visitors used to constantly ask "what's the secret to winning?" (sounds like IM, doesn't it?

Two secrets:

1 - Have enough money to last until you hit a good streak.

2 - Have enough sense to leave when you are ahead.
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•  Originally Posted by Kay King Casino visitors used to constantly ask "what's the secret to winning?" (sounds like IM, doesn't it? Two secrets: 1 - Have enough money to last until you hit a good streak. 2 - Have enough sense to leave when you are ahead.
Good advice, but you also suggested that having a good winning streak is possible?

Not according to the Massive Presidential Brains above.
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 Good advice, but you also suggested that having a good winning streak is possible? Not according to the Massive Presidential Brains above.
I winced at "Winning streak" when I read Kay's post, because I knew what it would mean to you. You are grasping at straws.

In any series of random numbers there are going to be small groups of numbers that go your way...completely offset by the ones that go the other way. It's why there are also "losing streaks". And there are always more losing streaks than winning streaks. And with slot machines, the streaks are short lived and against you.

It's just the way random selection works.

A "winning streak" doesn't mean that the outcomes are predictable or follow a pattern. Again, the slot machines use random number generators.

The last time I played a slot machine, I put in a silver dollar and got out \$300. That was about 30 years ago (when they still used real coins). I quit gambling right then, because I knew....the next hour or the next year...no matter what casino I entered...I would lose that money as sure as the Earth revolves around the Sun.

So I had a system, a foolproof one...I simply stopped gambling.

Kurt and I aren't "Big Presidential Brains" We simply knew something you didn't.
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre I winced at "Winning streak" when I read Kay's post, because I knew what it would mean to you. You are grasping at straws. In any series of random numbers there are going to be small groups of numbers that go your way...completely offset by the ones that go the other way. It's why there are also "losing streaks". And there are always more losing streaks than winning streaks. And with slot machines, the streaks are short lived and against you. It's just the way random selection works. A "winning streak" doesn't mean that the outcomes are predictable or follow a pattern. Again, the slot machines use random number generators. The last time I played a slot machine, I put in a silver dollar and got out \$300. That was about 30 years ago (when they still used real coins). I quit gambling right then, because I knew....the next hour or the next year...no matter what casino I entered...I would lose that money as sure as the Earth revolves around the Sun. So I had a system, a foolproof one...I simply stopped gambling. Kurt and I aren't "Big Presidential Brains" We simply knew something you didn't.
Actually, my wisdom on the subject comes from reading a number of books from QUALIFIED experts, instead of pretending I figured out something the greatest minds in the history of math and physics have over-looked.

Many people refuse to accept that gambling is one of the most studied sciences, as it directly relates to statistics. Casinos don't leave anything the chance. Every college with a class in statistics uses casino games as examples. Not to mention, UNLV has an entire branch dedicated to nothing but gambling science.

Even Albert Einstein had a big interest in gambling. Back when nuke tests were held just outside Las Vegas, he would visit the area often. He was known to spend a lot of time in casinos just watching with interest people gambling, particularly Chuck O Luck, a dice game. Einstein was fascinated with why people would wager their money when at a disadvantage, as he could calculate the odds of Chuck O Luck instantly.

But instead of respecting the knowledge, intellect and experiences of the greatest math minds in human history, some people have actually convinced themselves they know something the geniuses don't.

Their ideas aren't unique and have been presented and proven wrong many, many times before. They could easily research their theories but would rather believe they and only they, have it all figured out.

Here's the reality behind these money management systems...They do slow people down. And when gambling at a disadvantage, that's a good thing as it reduces their action. But to say they can over-come a disadvantage by using any money management system is not only wrong, it can be costly.

If they really wanted to be better gamblers they would put in the effort and study like I did. But they're too lazy and want to believe in magic instead of math, because it's easier and doesn't take any brain energy.

And because so many people are lazy is why blackjack, poker and even video poker to a great degree give far better odds than games that are purely chance, like slots and roulette. The casinos set the payback for blackjack and video poker so the gleefully ignorant don't lose too quickly, leaving a much better game for those that do put in some effort learning basic strategies.

Lanfear said himself that slots have a disadvantage of 10% or so, using round numbers. However, with just a little sound study and good selection of machines, you can play video poker at around a 1% disadvantage...maybe even better on some machines with perfect play.

I advised my sister to learn and play video poker. She became an almost even player. But she signed up for the slot clubs at the Vegas casinos and they would send her special offers and comps from time to time, making her Vegas vacations very inexpensive.

But she actually took some time and effort to improve her play, something slot players just aren't willing to do...a very expensive decision.
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre I winced at "Winning streak" when I read Kay's post, because I knew what it would mean to you. You are grasping at straws. In any series of random numbers there are going to be small groups of numbers that go your way...completely offset by the ones that go the other way. It's why there are also "losing streaks". And there are always more losing streaks than winning streaks. And with slot machines, the streaks are short lived and against you. It's just the way random selection works. A "winning streak" doesn't mean that the outcomes are predictable or follow a pattern. Again, the slot machines use random number generators. The last time I played a slot machine, I put in a silver dollar and got out \$300. That was about 30 years ago (when they still used real coins). I quit gambling right then, because I knew....the next hour or the next year...no matter what casino I entered...I would lose that money as sure as the Earth revolves around the Sun. So I had a system, a foolproof one...I simply stopped gambling. Kurt and I aren't "Big Presidential Brains" We simply knew something you didn't.
The slot's have changed a bit since your last visit 30 years ago. Yes, they still have a few mechanical reel ones left, but these are ancient. What we see now are realistic video versions or multiple line versions. Graphical full screen displays. I found, in all cases, the 3 bar mechanical ones are to be avoided. Wins are higher but sparse. The graphical ones give you more wins, usually less than your stake play, but you get to play longer on them.

One thing you probably never or rarely had was bonus rounds. The free spins that the machine does for you or some simulated video game type thing to win extra money. I am factoring in these extra's into my scenario. Since you are betting 50-60 cents you would always get one or two of these in a 100 dollar cycle. given that you have up to 200 goes.
Switching out from one machine to another every 20 increases the chances of you getting one of these.

This is not a pattern of play most people do.

Kurt is right about video Poker, almost 50/50, slight house advantage. Given that, you put in a 20, lose one or two and then go just go slightly over your 20 and cash out, not keep playing, start again. With discipline you could turn a profit.

The slots themselves have no skill attached to playing them. Only doing the cycles and patterns of play I'm suggesting will give you an edge.

I'm only suggesting that it works because I have done it multiple times in a row with no failures as yet. I admit though, it is a so far thing.
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•  Originally Posted by lanfear63 The slot's have changed a bit since your last visit 30 years ago. .
Oh, I've been in casinos hundreds of times in the last thirty years, I just don't gamble. Occasionally a friend will want to play Blackjack, and I'll ask if I can watch.

I'm not really watching the odds of winning. I know almost nothing about the rules. I'm watching how the player is thinking. How they justify gambling...how they imagine they are winning...when they are slowly losing. How they soften the impact of losing money they needed. It's the psychology of the gambler that interests me, not gambling itself.

The only reason I knew anything about how slot machines paid out is that I looked it up on Wikipedia. And I had a general working knowledge of probability in games.

My son has made a living playing poker. He hates it when I call it gambling. And he doesn't do anything in the casino except poker. Like Kurt, he's studied lots of books on gambling, and he has tried to educate me, but it doesn't hold my interest, since I don't gamble.

If you want to really understand human nature, talk to guys that are addicted to gambling. They have created a whole reality to make it less painful and more hopeful.
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•  Originally Posted by Claude Whiteacre If you want to really understand human nature, talk to guys that are addicted to gambling. They have created a whole reality to make it less painful and more hopeful.
What could be learned from this? Can you transpose those lessons to ordinary people?

Is it useful in sales?
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•  Originally Posted by socialentry What could be learned from this? Can you transpose those lessons to ordinary people? Is it useful in sales?
I don't know how to transpose those to ordinary people. It's a matter of degree, I suppose. Yes, very useful in selling.

When someone is starting to lean away from buying.....or lean toward buying....they unconsciously make a series of decisions. Then that is translated into a story that they put together and tell you. They aren't even consciously aware of the first part, they are only aware of the story after they have put it together.

That period of time when the story is just starting to be told, I can usually tell which way it's going to go. And I can either keep quiet (because I know it's going in my favor) or interrupt ( because I know it's not in my favor).

Also, there are preambles to bringing up objections to buying. The story before the objection. Studying how people create their own narrative let's you eventually know what the customer is thinking...and going to say...before they say it.

Gambling addicts just create this narrative in a more obvious way. Like drug addicts, women turning you down on a date......or children who want you to buy something.

Imagine if you could tell...with maybe 95% accuracy...what the person you were talking to was thinking...and what they were about to say. It's almost like seeing into the future a few minutes. And if you know what they are about to say (with reasonable accuracy), you'll know how to respond to further the sale.

Gambling addicts just give a more pronounced version of this display than ordinary people.

One thing I have learned the hard way is to keep these observations to yourself.
It's like explaining a magic trick as you do it. All the effect is killed.

I'm not sure I ever discussed this with any of my salespeople...and I know it's not in any of my books.

It's also very useful to listen to non-salespeople try to convince somebody of something. It becomes fairly easy to tell the exact point where the rapport died....the sale fell through...even though neither one of them are aware of it yet.
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• Winning streaks happen quite often - and that's why so many "how tos" and "beat the casinos" books talk about time limits and "sessions".

Many people are in profit while playing in casinos....for a while.

But they don't leave - they keep playing and they give the profit back to the casino. It keeps the casinos in profit.
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• Select the best converting product at clickbank and spend \$1000 on PPC ads is probably the easiest way to do it.
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• Turning \$100 into \$1000 is seriously one of best goals you should try to achieve to eventually change your financial future. People who have the ability to actually do it are considered as millionaires, if not billionaires.

They earn so much money that probably you don't earn. Or you wouldn't have asked this question. Now the question is what is the difference between you and these millionaires. Believe me it's the mindset and a positive attitude. Nothing is impossible in life. If you want to turn \$100 into \$1000 or \$10 into \$100, find the people who have already done it.

Follow their path and you will be successful. It's that easy.

Different businesses have different requirements. \$100 may not be considered as a good investment when you are starting a new business. But seriously there are ways or even free ways to make that much money.

One of the methods that I would like to talk about is flipping domain names. If you don't know what is flipping, let me tell you that flipping is simply buying something and selling it at a higher price. As a result, you make a profit. Now you may ask why would someone pay you 10 times more?

Most of the times, the value of a domain name is not known or realized by people who are just starting businesses online. There are many ways a domain should be evaluated. However, I am not going into those metrics now. But from my experience, you can quite easily sell a \$50 domain name for \$250 or even more. It just depends on how you promote and how you make people evaluate the domain you are selling. It also depends on the kind of people you are promoting to and where you are promoting.

When you are able to do it, you can easily scale it up. But you will learn it slowly with experiences. Don't be afraid of failures. It's a part of life.

Obviously you may not get the same results always. But what you do expect is very much possible with domain flipping. At least this is what I believe and have learned from my experience.

I believe it should not be very difficult for you if you follow the right guidelines. I believe you may be asking yourself if you have the proper knowledge required for this business. Then read : How Much Knowledge Do You Need to Start Flipping? Flipping is a system that you can use with anything, not specifically domain names, but also with websites or blogs or anything else of your choice. Make sure you do it online.

Because online world is something different. The market is huge and the possibilities are endless. With more experience, you will learn more and hopefully make more money than you can imagine.

Remember you should consider your first venture as a learning experience. Slowly you would realize its potential. What I actually mean to say is that what you expect is very much possible. Trust me.
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• I actually have the answer....of what works for ME!

Your risk tolerance is different from mine, so it likely will leave you -\$1,000, not +\$2,000.

And therein lies the rub.

What's perfect for one person can be a nightmare of hair-pulling proportions for someone else.

But here goes.

Once a month a certain type of contract ends, which forces all those who have it to either execute the contract or otherwise move out of it before a certain date. This date is published for the world to know.

And once every quarter a more powerful situation occurs.

Again, it might not be well-suited for you!

By the way, IANAL, past performance is no guarantee of future results, and I might be the next Steve Jobs, Jack Ma, Larry Williams (Google him!), Doug Casey, Simon Black, or Bernie Madoff. Or even the 3rd incarnation of Charles Ponzi himself! So do your OWN due dilligence, and then triple-check it after that.
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•  Originally Posted by ahlexis Your risk tolerance is different from mine...

That's what Claude's barber tells him when he's sitting in the barber chair.
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• I didn't win the Powerball lottery. I don't understand what happened.

Maybe I should try harder?

#powerballsucks
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•  Originally Posted by yukon I didn't win the Powerball lottery. I don't understand what happened. Maybe I should try harder? #powerballsucks
You forgot to hire a psychic to pick your numbers didn't you?
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•  Originally Posted by whateverpedia You forgot to hire a psychic to pick your numbers didn't you?

Is psychicbunny any good?
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•  Originally Posted by yukon Is psychicbunny any good?
She must be at \$5 a pop!

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•  Originally Posted by tagiscom She must be at \$5 a pop!

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•  Originally Posted by yukon
But she charges extra to have her bunny walk on a Powerball ticket with inked feet.

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•  Originally Posted by yukon I didn't win the Powerball lottery. I don't understand what happened.
Did you remember to buy a ticket ?
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•  Originally Posted by DWolfe Did you remember to buy a ticket ?
No, he just wrote 6 numbers down on a piece of paper, when they did not come up he congratulated himself on saving two bucks.
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•  Originally Posted by DWolfe Did you remember to buy a ticket ?

I bought the ticket in 2005.
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• Easy money? haha I'm thinking the same thing. I plan on investing it on a website.
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