Cigarettes Over $9 A Pack? Damn!

[Scot Standke]

I was at WalMart the other day and ended up checking out in the tobacco aisle and happened to notice the price of name brand cigs, over $9 a pack, damn!

How can anyone afford to smoke them any longer?

You could save a little when you bought a carton at around $85 LOL

I wish the prices were at that level when my dad was younger, perhaps he would have quit because he could not afford the 3 pack a day habit that ultimately ended up killing him, ten years after he actually quit.

Scot

[MikeAmbrosio]

I quit 10 years ago when they were $3.35 a pack. I quit for many reasons, but one was I couldn't see spending that much money on suicide. LOL! Now it's ridiculous.

[Mark_w]

To compare, in the UK 2 years ago they were about £5.50 for major brands. Now, closer to £6 I think. £6 = approx $9, but back 2-3 years ago when £1=$2, that would mean $11 cigs.

Don't get me started on petrol (gas) prices too!

[HeySal]

Scot where the heck are you? I freak out when I see 6 bucks. I smoke small cigars that look like cigarettes. Fewer additives and only 1.95 a pack with tax.

[Scot Standke]

HeySal,

I'm in Wisconsin, think we just instituted yet another $1 per pack tax last month to help pay for our big government

Scot

[KimW]

It's been almost 3 years since I quit, and I smoked for close to 40 years. When I started it was about a quarter a pack. (course gas was 13 cents a gallon)
I just came from 7-11 and saw it said name brand cigarettes 3.93 a pack if you buy two packs. I didn't see how much for a single pack,but I know its higher.

[aboutalhah]

Hey Scott, you should be happy, it's not really good for your health.

All the best,
Franck

[HeySal]

Ah cripes - there's one in every crowd.

Oshkosh is in Wisconsin? LOL. Okay, I wondered about where that old saying originated.
Actual cigarettes are between 4 and 6 here in ID. There are one or two brands that you can still get for under 4 here and Oregon, but not many.

[Lawrh]

Here in Edmonton it's $10.50 for a 20 pack and $13 for a 25 pack.
That's the low end of the scale.

It's all the oil money, the merchants feel they can gouge us for everything.
You can't spit without hitting a BMW, and over the summer I've seen several
Lamborghinis, a couple Ferraris, four Maseratis and an Aston Martin DBS.
That's just in the area around downtown.

Until my sales blast through the stratosphere, it might be time to move.
And stop smoking...

[baliblue]

I lived in Australia all my life until 9 months ago. When I left, a pack of smokes was around $12. I moved to Bali where a pack cost a little over one dollar.

Its great. The more you smoke the more you save.

[Bakai]

This creates a new business opportunity. I may start growing tobacco in my backyard instead of that wacky green stuff. More profitable.

[CDarklock]

Depends on where you shop. If I go to Fred Meyer, the store known as Kroger in other parts of the country, a pack costs about $7. At Safeway, about $8. At the local gas station, about $9. At Walgreen's, about $6. Head to an actual smoke shop, and you can get them for just over $5.

[Kurt]

Wow...I can't believe how much cigarettes are everywhere...I quit about 6 years ago, was up to 3 1/2 packs a day.

You can find a pack of Marlboro in Las Vegas for about $5...I thought that was bad.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Kurt

Wow...I can't believe how much cigarettes are everywhere...I quit about 6 years ago, was up to 3 1/2 packs a day.

I quit seven years ago, then started up again last year and I'm back up to just under half a pack daily. I keep cutting it back by a couple, and then it ramps back up again, and I cut back... I'll quit again, eventually. Probably take another year or so to do that.

[Bev Clement]

When we lived in China we used to use our duty free to take them back to a friend in the UK. A pack of 200 was like $10. Think from Hong Kong it is like $30 for 200

[Mark_w]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

When we lived in China we used to use our duty free to take them back to a friend in the UK. A pack of 200 was like $10. Think from Hong Kong it is like $30 for 200

It's not much wonder so many people in Asia smoke when the price is so cheap (even taking into account standards of living etc).

[John M Kane]

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

HeySal,

I'm in Wisconsin, think we just instituted yet another $1 per pack tax last month to help pay for our big government

Scot

Deerfield/Edgerton area in wisconsin has growers
maybe you can find a co-op to by bulk from.
Here is one link I found searching "tobacco farming wisconsin"
>>> Tobacco Farming with Perry Halverson (Deerfield, Wisconsin)

article >>> http://www.smokersclubinc.com/module...ticle&sid=3556

Article about growers transitioning to grow Echinacea
>>> Echineacea as a tobacco crop alternative (Research Brief #48)|Center for Integrated Agricultural Systems

and NO affl

[Intrepreneur]

Originally Posted by Bakai

that wacky green stuff.

Stick with the green stuff you're at least making something happen unlike the uselessness of tobacco.

[wirelessgeek]

At those prices, I'm not sure how anyone can afford to smoke, unless you're Donald Trump or something. I'm not a smoker but I try not to be hypocritical about it; I have my little bad habits, too. I'm sure they would be maybe a couple bucks cheaper if it wasn't for government wanting to tax cigarettes to whazoo...Of course, in my state, they bumped up the sales tax on soda pop and junk food just recently, too. They say it's to pay for dental care for poor people but I'm not so sure.

[forrar]

In Lithuania pack of cigarettes was $1 USD, now they cost $4-5 USD

[powerpuffdc]

I myself has taken all the negative facts of smoking. That is why I decided to look for an alternative because I just cannot quit. Right now I am using VirtuSmoke. It is safe and inexpensive. It worked for me.

[antiquenh]

A friend of mine in the Philippines says that name brand packs there are only around 70 cents. Then again, a lot of things there are cheaper than here in the US.

[mrnightowl]

Thats why I moved to Mexico... Pack of Marbs here only $1.75 and for Mexican brand Delicados only $1.25 by the pack. Cheaper yet by the cartoon or from the market where its probably stolen but still cheap... Just like dvds are 10 pesos.. there are 13 pesos in a dollar right now.

Not really the reason I moved here but sounds good

Eric.

[HomeBizNizz]

We pay 90 NOK here in Norway.
Should come to 16 dollar.
One dollar is 5 NOK.

Yeah, gasoline is 2,2 dollar per liter.
A gallon is 7,7 dollar.

We like to be robbed by the government in taxes and fees.

[tutpeyst023]

Whats that, a Cuban cigar? I can already smoke Marlboro for less than a dollar here in my side of the earth. Unfair Lol

[natscash]

You must really want lung cancer for spending that much on cigarettes.

[jnita]

Here in South Africa a pack of 20's is R25.00 (and sometimes you can get it for R22.50 if you know where to look).
That converts to about $3.33

[HeySal]

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

Stick with the green stuff you're at least making something happen unlike the uselessness of tobacco.

Toabacco isn't useless - it helps fight glaucoma and the nicotine is extremely effective in controlling nervous disorders. The problem comes with the burning material and the addition of many absolute poisons to the tobacco during processing - you can get additive free cigarettes, and while the Gov likes to say there is no difference - one quick look at the required warning on the side of the pack will tell you otherwise. A doctor who has studied multi-national stats smoking/morbidity and independent research will also tell you different than the published and pushed results. There are many studies that do not add up to the propaganda.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

Toabacco isn't useless - it helps fight glaucoma and the nicotine is extremely effective in controlling nervous disorders. The problem comes with the burning material and the addition of many absolute poisons to the tobacco during processing - you can get additive free cigarettes, and while the Gov likes to say there is no difference - one quick look at the required warning on the side of the pack will tell you otherwise. A doctor who has studied multi-national stats smoking/morbidity and independent research will also tell you different than the published and pushed results. There are many studies that do not add up to the propaganda.

I think you're talking about weed not tobacco for controlling glaucoma

Nicotine acts as a stimulant in mammals. I'm not a doctor, but i dont think stimulants help nervous disorders with maybe the exception of add/adhd. It was considered a poison when it was discovered.

There isn't anything good about tobacco to anyone except smokers. Smokers are no different than any other addict, they just like to tell themselves they are. But in reality, they are addicted to a product that kills 1 in 3 that use it.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

It was considered a poison when it was discovered.

So was penicillin, and how many lives has that saved? Are you suggesting that the fact that it was (allegedly) considered a poison when it was discovered implies that nobody should use it? Just wondering.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

So was penicillin, and how many lives has that saved? Are you suggesting that the fact that it was (allegedly) considered a poison when it was discovered implies that nobody should use it? Just wondering.

No, the fact that its highly addictive with no real benefits for usage should be enough to imply that nobody should use it. Its a stimulant that aids in the production of ldl cholesterol. So its speeding your heart up, while at the same time helping to block your arteries, though it takes time to do that. And it still is considered a poison... the fact that its sold as a pesticide should tell you something.

Nicotine's worst problems come usually from what it is associated with, which is tobacco, and the 4000+ chemicals that are in the average cigarette.

Nicotine as in the e-cigarettes in my sig below, while still addictive, atleast doesnt come with the extras that go along with breathing in burning plant matter covered in pesticides, preservatives, and extra chemicals made specifically to increase your addiction to tobacco products.

[Sosu]

When I owned a cigar shop, I charged $5.50 a pack. I did not care to sell them. So I overpriced them. You never see a cigar smoker out in the rain or cold. We enjoy without addiction.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

No, the fact that its highly addictive with no real benefits for usage should be enough to imply that nobody should use it. Its a stimulant that aids in the production of ldl cholesterol. So its speeding your heart up, while at the same time helping to block your arteries, though it takes time to do that. And it still is considered a poison... the fact that its sold as a pesticide should tell you something.

Nicotine's worst problems come usually from what it is associated with, which is tobacco, and the 4000+ chemicals that are in the average cigarette.

Nicotine as in the e-cigarettes in my sig below, while still addictive, atleast doesnt come with the extras that go along with breathing in burning plant matter covered in pesticides, preservatives, and extra chemicals made specifically to increase your addiction to tobacco products.

So I'm told, but all of that has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

You said that it was considered a poison when it was discovered.

I'm asking whether or not it's your contention that the fact that something was considered a poison when it was discovered is a reason for nobody ever using it. So, which is it? Are you saying yes, that fact does mean that nobody should use it (in which case I'm pointing out that exactly the same "logic" applies to penicillin), or no, that fact isn't in itself a reason for people not to use it (in which case I'm wondering why you mentioned it)?

That's not a question you can answer by listing other reasons why people might not like it, is it?

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

So I'm told, but all of that has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

You said that it was considered a poison when it was discovered.

I'm asking whether or not it's your contention that the fact that something was considered a poison when it was discovered is a reason for nobody ever using it. So, which is it? Are you saying yes, that fact does mean that nobody should use it (in which case the same must apply to penicillin?), or no, that fact isn't in itself a reason for people not to use it (in which case I'm wondering why you mentioned it)?

That's not a question you can answer by lisiting other reasons why people might not like it, is it?

And it still is considered a poison... the fact that its sold as a pesticide should tell you something.

Is there a time when you would consider purposely injesting a pesticide a good thing?

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

Is there a time when you would consider purposely injesting a pesticide a good thing?

Sorry, Michael, I'm not intentionally being dense, but was that "yes" or "no" to the question I asked?!

[Michael Motley]

No, because it was orignally thought of as a poison is not a sufficient reason to not use it now.

However its toxicity to humans addictive qualities and its use in killing of insects should probably cover any gaps in 'why shouldnt i use nicotine regularly' discussions...wouldn't you think?

[Fernando Veloso]

I just smoke weed.






Joking, i smoke cigarettes, Marlboro.

Damn addiction.

[Michael Oksa]

But Michael, you are confusing an isolate of nicotine with tobacco. Native Americans were using tobacco for who knows how long, and I'm pretty sure they didn't say "Gee, the nicotine in this stuff is poisonous".

I quit 14 or 15 years ago for a New Year's resolution (they really can work), and I think I was paying about $3/pack, but not entirely sure.

They may be about $9 a pack at Wal-Mart, but I bet they are cheaper Oneida, Potowotami, Ho-Chunk, Dajope, Northern Lights, and so on.



All the best,
Michael

[mbenton]

Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

But Michael, you are confusing an isolate of nicotine with tobacco. Native Americans were using tobacco for who knows how long, and I'm pretty sure they didn't say "Gee, the nicotine in this stuff is poisonous".

I quit 14 or 15 years ago for a New Year's resolution (they really can work), and I think I was paying about $3/pack, but not entirely sure.

They may be about $9 a pack at Wal-Mart, but I bet they are cheaper Oneida, Potowotami, Ho-Chunk, Dajope, Northern Lights, and so on.



All the best,
Michael

you're right, but
(a) as their medical community wasn't quite as up to date as we are now, there's no telling how many native american deaths were caused by nicotine,
(b) the native americans didnt slather the nicotine laden tobacco in over 4000 chemicals either.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by mbenton

Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

you'll probably get arrested

[Oscar D]

Originally Posted by mbenton

Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

Nice business idea, not sure if that will be legal

[AvidAZ]

Yeah, i don't smoke, but every time I travel you see people stocking up at the duty-frees. $7-$9 a pack is crazy.

[myob]

I am a heavy smoker and have been for years, but I don't pay a dime for my habit. Just hang out where there is a lot of secondary smoke. Why pay for something that is so abundant and free?

[Dave Patterson]

Originally Posted by myob

I am a heavy smoker and have been for years, but I don't pay a dime for my habit. Just hang out where there is a lot of secondary smoke. Why pay for something that is so abundant and free?

You'd really enjoy a place up the street from me then.

A pool hall named...........The Smokehouse.

[Sosu]

I hate that cigars have the warning labels.

[mr2020]

Many non smokers don't care when the big government taxes smokes. They almost always say, "it's not good for you, so taxing it is a good idea". Eating cheeto's and wasting time watching sports doesn't contribute to the economy, like eating steak and watching educational videos.... Big G is afriad to tax sports and cheetos.... Just rambling.... Maybe.

Mr Twenty Twenty

PS: My attitude, "Govt, get out of my way." Does it show?

PPS: Tobacco has healing properties, like EVERY PLANT does. The problem is that it is not smoked with "good thinking", and cigarettes are loaded full of chemicals, that the Big G allows. Wake up non smokers....

[mrnightowl]

Originally Posted by tutpeyst023

Whats that, a Cuban cigar? I can already smoke Marlboro for less than a dollar here in my side of the earth. Unfair Lol

Can get a box of Cuban cigars and real aged Cuban rum for about $20USD or 280 to 300 pesos.

But damn there are a lot of mean people in this forum. lol Must be nice to be perfect eh? HA!

Marijuana cost about $15USD for 1/2 ounce(14.4 grams). Mafia and the cartels help keep the cost low for that but at a price of 10 or so murders a week related to the cartels in this city alone.

Eric.

[Patrician]

Why to buy US grown pot - especially California High Grade. There may still be a few fields the illegal aliens haven't taken over. Don't support the criminal cartels which are a shade worse than just plain illegals. The cartels are just plain evil.

I smoke additive free cigs for several years about 30 a day minimum. Now I am down to 10 max using puresmokeonline.com (pure smoke) electronic cigarettes.

Nothing bad except nicotine. The filters are equivalent to a pack of cigs so it is running me about $15 for the equivalent of one carton (about $55) (note I actually buy them from a discount cigarette joint which is much cheaper than online. (the $15 cartridges are after the one time $40 cigarette with USB charger). - puresmoke is the only one made in the US that I know of.

I can't understand how nicotine is an upper. The only drawback of the puresmoke is it puts me to sleep.

The cartridges are stronger than my ultra lite cigs and I find myself wanting a cig sometimes while I am smoking it. (and I hate the feeling of not being able to keep my eyes open).

Sooooo - it must be the carbon monoxide I am addicted to and not nicotine as everyone says, and nicotine must be a downer not an upper as everyone thinks (there is actually a debate whether it speeds us up or calms us down). I have to say down.

Anyway - even at 10 I am doing better than 30. I am consistent for weeks now. I will beat this monkey eventually but know it can still kill you years after you quit. Whatever - 'they say it's going to kill me but they won't say when'

[pretty]

For me cigarette really damage our health.... I keep on advising my friends to stop smoking. It can really damage our lungs.