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Old 10-09-2009, 11:44 AM   #1
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I was at WalMart the other day and ended up checking out in the tobacco aisle and happened to notice the price of name brand cigs, over $9 a pack, damn!

How can anyone afford to smoke them any longer?

You could save a little when you bought a carton at around $85 LOL

I wish the prices were at that level when my dad was younger, perhaps he would have quit because he could not afford the 3 pack a day habit that ultimately ended up killing him, ten years after he actually quit.

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Old 10-09-2009, 11:47 AM   #2
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I quit 10 years ago when they were $3.35 a pack. I quit for many reasons, but one was I couldn't see spending that much money on suicide. LOL! Now it's ridiculous.

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To compare, in the UK 2 years ago they were about £5.50 for major brands. Now, closer to £6 I think. £6 = approx $9, but back 2-3 years ago when £1=$2, that would mean $11 cigs.

Don't get me started on petrol (gas) prices too!
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Scot where the heck are you? I freak out when I see 6 bucks. I smoke small cigars that look like cigarettes. Fewer additives and only 1.95 a pack with tax.

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HeySal,

I'm in Wisconsin, think we just instituted yet another $1 per pack tax last month to help pay for our big government

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Name brand is close to $8 here in Massachusetts. Of course, I live on the border of New Hampshire so I just go over there to buy smokes for a little under $5. I remember when I first started smoking, I was spending a dollar per pack.

Before anyone gets any ideas, yes, I know it's bad for me - I'm not an idiot. Please don't start with the lectures...they just make me want a cigarette.

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It's been almost 3 years since I quit, and I smoked for close to 40 years. When I started it was about a quarter a pack. (course gas was 13 cents a gallon)
I just came from 7-11 and saw it said name brand cigarettes 3.93 a pack if you buy two packs. I didn't see how much for a single pack,but I know its higher.

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Hey Scott, you should be happy, it's not really good for your health.

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Ah cripes - there's one in every crowd.

Oshkosh is in Wisconsin? LOL. Okay, I wondered about where that old saying originated.
Actual cigarettes are between 4 and 6 here in ID. There are one or two brands that you can still get for under 4 here and Oregon, but not many.

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Here in Edmonton it's $10.50 for a 20 pack and $13 for a 25 pack.
That's the low end of the scale.

It's all the oil money, the merchants feel they can gouge us for everything.
You can't spit without hitting a BMW, and over the summer I've seen several
Lamborghinis, a couple Ferraris, four Maseratis and an Aston Martin DBS.
That's just in the area around downtown.

Until my sales blast through the stratosphere, it might be time to move.
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I lived in Australia all my life until 9 months ago. When I left, a pack of smokes was around $12. I moved to Bali where a pack cost a little over one dollar.

Its great. The more you smoke the more you save.
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This creates a new business opportunity. I may start growing tobacco in my backyard instead of that wacky green stuff. More profitable.

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Depends on where you shop. If I go to Fred Meyer, the store known as Kroger in other parts of the country, a pack costs about $7. At Safeway, about $8. At the local gas station, about $9. At Walgreen's, about $6. Head to an actual smoke shop, and you can get them for just over $5.

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Wow...I can't believe how much cigarettes are everywhere...I quit about 6 years ago, was up to 3 1/2 packs a day.

You can find a pack of Marlboro in Las Vegas for about $5...I thought that was bad.

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I quit seven years ago, then started up again last year and I'm back up to just under half a pack daily. I keep cutting it back by a couple, and then it ramps back up again, and I cut back... I'll quit again, eventually. Probably take another year or so to do that.

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When we lived in China we used to use our duty free to take them back to a friend in the UK. A pack of 200 was like $10. Think from Hong Kong it is like $30 for 200

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When we lived in China we used to use our duty free to take them back to a friend in the UK. A pack of 200 was like $10. Think from Hong Kong it is like $30 for 200
It's not much wonder so many people in Asia smoke when the price is so cheap (even taking into account standards of living etc).
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HeySal,

I'm in Wisconsin, think we just instituted yet another $1 per pack tax last month to help pay for our big government

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article >>> http://www.smokersclubinc.com/module...ticle&sid=3556

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At those prices, I'm not sure how anyone can afford to smoke, unless you're Donald Trump or something. I'm not a smoker but I try not to be hypocritical about it; I have my little bad habits, too. I'm sure they would be maybe a couple bucks cheaper if it wasn't for government wanting to tax cigarettes to whazoo...Of course, in my state, they bumped up the sales tax on soda pop and junk food just recently, too. They say it's to pay for dental care for poor people but I'm not so sure.

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In Lithuania pack of cigarettes was $1 USD, now they cost $4-5 USD

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I myself has taken all the negative facts of smoking. That is why I decided to look for an alternative because I just cannot quit. Right now I am using VirtuSmoke. It is safe and inexpensive. It worked for me.
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A friend of mine in the Philippines says that name brand packs there are only around 70 cents. Then again, a lot of things there are cheaper than here in the US.

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Tough. $6 is minnesota

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Thats why I moved to Mexico... Pack of Marbs here only $1.75 and for Mexican brand Delicados only $1.25 by the pack. Cheaper yet by the cartoon or from the market where its probably stolen but still cheap... Just like dvds are 10 pesos.. there are 13 pesos in a dollar right now.

Not really the reason I moved here but sounds good

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We pay 90 NOK here in Norway.
Should come to 16 dollar.
One dollar is 5 NOK.

Yeah, gasoline is 2,2 dollar per liter.
A gallon is 7,7 dollar.

We like to be robbed by the government in taxes and fees.

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Whats that, a Cuban cigar? I can already smoke Marlboro for less than a dollar here in my side of the earth. Unfair Lol

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You must really want lung cancer for spending that much on cigarettes.
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Here in South Africa a pack of 20's is R25.00 (and sometimes you can get it for R22.50 if you know where to look).
That converts to about $3.33

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Toabacco isn't useless - it helps fight glaucoma and the nicotine is extremely effective in controlling nervous disorders. The problem comes with the burning material and the addition of many absolute poisons to the tobacco during processing - you can get additive free cigarettes, and while the Gov likes to say there is no difference - one quick look at the required warning on the side of the pack will tell you otherwise. A doctor who has studied multi-national stats smoking/morbidity and independent research will also tell you different than the published and pushed results. There are many studies that do not add up to the propaganda.

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Toabacco isn't useless - it helps fight glaucoma and the nicotine is extremely effective in controlling nervous disorders. The problem comes with the burning material and the addition of many absolute poisons to the tobacco during processing - you can get additive free cigarettes, and while the Gov likes to say there is no difference - one quick look at the required warning on the side of the pack will tell you otherwise. A doctor who has studied multi-national stats smoking/morbidity and independent research will also tell you different than the published and pushed results. There are many studies that do not add up to the propaganda.
I think you're talking about weed not tobacco for controlling glaucoma

Nicotine acts as a stimulant in mammals. I'm not a doctor, but i dont think stimulants help nervous disorders with maybe the exception of add/adhd. It was considered a poison when it was discovered.

There isn't anything good about tobacco to anyone except smokers. Smokers are no different than any other addict, they just like to tell themselves they are. But in reality, they are addicted to a product that kills 1 in 3 that use it.

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So was penicillin, and how many lives has that saved? Are you suggesting that the fact that it was (allegedly) considered a poison when it was discovered implies that nobody should use it? Just wondering.

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So was penicillin, and how many lives has that saved? Are you suggesting that the fact that it was (allegedly) considered a poison when it was discovered implies that nobody should use it? Just wondering.
No, the fact that its highly addictive with no real benefits for usage should be enough to imply that nobody should use it. Its a stimulant that aids in the production of ldl cholesterol. So its speeding your heart up, while at the same time helping to block your arteries, though it takes time to do that. And it still is considered a poison... the fact that its sold as a pesticide should tell you something.

Nicotine's worst problems come usually from what it is associated with, which is tobacco, and the 4000+ chemicals that are in the average cigarette.

Nicotine as in the e-cigarettes in my sig below, while still addictive, atleast doesnt come with the extras that go along with breathing in burning plant matter covered in pesticides, preservatives, and extra chemicals made specifically to increase your addiction to tobacco products.

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When I owned a cigar shop, I charged $5.50 a pack. I did not care to sell them. So I overpriced them. You never see a cigar smoker out in the rain or cold. We enjoy without addiction.
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No, the fact that its highly addictive with no real benefits for usage should be enough to imply that nobody should use it. Its a stimulant that aids in the production of ldl cholesterol. So its speeding your heart up, while at the same time helping to block your arteries, though it takes time to do that. And it still is considered a poison... the fact that its sold as a pesticide should tell you something.

Nicotine's worst problems come usually from what it is associated with, which is tobacco, and the 4000+ chemicals that are in the average cigarette.

Nicotine as in the e-cigarettes in my sig below, while still addictive, atleast doesnt come with the extras that go along with breathing in burning plant matter covered in pesticides, preservatives, and extra chemicals made specifically to increase your addiction to tobacco products.
So I'm told, but all of that has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

You said that it was considered a poison when it was discovered.

I'm asking whether or not it's your contention that the fact that something was considered a poison when it was discovered is a reason for nobody ever using it. So, which is it? Are you saying yes, that fact does mean that nobody should use it (in which case I'm pointing out that exactly the same "logic" applies to penicillin), or no, that fact isn't in itself a reason for people not to use it (in which case I'm wondering why you mentioned it)?

That's not a question you can answer by listing other reasons why people might not like it, is it?

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So I'm told, but all of that has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

You said that it was considered a poison when it was discovered.

I'm asking whether or not it's your contention that the fact that something was considered a poison when it was discovered is a reason for nobody ever using it. So, which is it? Are you saying yes, that fact does mean that nobody should use it (in which case the same must apply to penicillin?), or no, that fact isn't in itself a reason for people not to use it (in which case I'm wondering why you mentioned it)?

That's not a question you can answer by lisiting other reasons why people might not like it, is it?
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Is there a time when you would consider purposely injesting a pesticide a good thing?

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Is there a time when you would consider purposely injesting a pesticide a good thing?
Sorry, Michael, I'm not intentionally being dense, but was that "yes" or "no" to the question I asked?!

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No, because it was orignally thought of as a poison is not a sufficient reason to not use it now.

However its toxicity to humans addictive qualities and its use in killing of insects should probably cover any gaps in 'why shouldnt i use nicotine regularly' discussions...wouldn't you think?

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But Michael, you are confusing an isolate of nicotine with tobacco. Native Americans were using tobacco for who knows how long, and I'm pretty sure they didn't say "Gee, the nicotine in this stuff is poisonous".

I quit 14 or 15 years ago for a New Year's resolution (they really can work), and I think I was paying about $3/pack, but not entirely sure.

They may be about $9 a pack at Wal-Mart, but I bet they are cheaper Oneida, Potowotami, Ho-Chunk, Dajope, Northern Lights, and so on.



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Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

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But Michael, you are confusing an isolate of nicotine with tobacco. Native Americans were using tobacco for who knows how long, and I'm pretty sure they didn't say "Gee, the nicotine in this stuff is poisonous".

I quit 14 or 15 years ago for a New Year's resolution (they really can work), and I think I was paying about $3/pack, but not entirely sure.

They may be about $9 a pack at Wal-Mart, but I bet they are cheaper Oneida, Potowotami, Ho-Chunk, Dajope, Northern Lights, and so on.



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(a) as their medical community wasn't quite as up to date as we are now, there's no telling how many native american deaths were caused by nicotine,
(b) the native americans didnt slather the nicotine laden tobacco in over 4000 chemicals either.

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Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

you'll probably get arrested

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Okay, so if I go to Kentucky and load the van with Marlboros at $3 a pack, then drive to Wisconsin and sell them for $7 a pack...

Nice business idea, not sure if that will be legal

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Yeah, i don't smoke, but every time I travel you see people stocking up at the duty-frees. $7-$9 a pack is crazy.

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I am a heavy smoker and have been for years, but I don't pay a dime for my habit. Just hang out where there is a lot of secondary smoke. Why pay for something that is so abundant and free?

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I am a heavy smoker and have been for years, but I don't pay a dime for my habit. Just hang out where there is a lot of secondary smoke. Why pay for something that is so abundant and free?
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I hate that cigars have the warning labels.

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Many non smokers don't care when the big government taxes smokes. They almost always say, "it's not good for you, so taxing it is a good idea". Eating cheeto's and wasting time watching sports doesn't contribute to the economy, like eating steak and watching educational videos.... Big G is afriad to tax sports and cheetos.... Just rambling.... Maybe.

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Whats that, a Cuban cigar? I can already smoke Marlboro for less than a dollar here in my side of the earth. Unfair Lol
Can get a box of Cuban cigars and real aged Cuban rum for about $20USD or 280 to 300 pesos.

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