Advice needed on what is the best manufacturer of RAM!

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Hello everyone,

After careful consideration and research, I purchased the Toshiba A505-S6960 laptop recently. It's a nice laptop, and its 4GB RAM can be upgraded to 8GB RAM, a definite plus to keep it speedy and productive in the coming years.

What I'm not sure about is what RAM manufacturer is best to go with - I think the 4GB RAM is broken up into 2 2GB RAM modules, most likely Toshiba RAM (they offer RAM in their own name on their website). Therefore, I'd have to purchase 2 4GB RAM modules to upgrade to 8GB RAM instead of just one module, BUT, I can purchase two of the same manufacturer, which may help performance instead of mixing two modules of two different manufacturers (Toshiba + Kingston/Crucial/Corsair/Patriot/OCZ, etc.).

What I'm not sure about is, is there a clear-cut better manufacturer of RAM? I've heard good things about Crucial, and customers of different sites, including NewEgg's customers, rate it highly. I know Kingston was recommended by Toshiba at one time, and it seems NewEgg's customers also rate their RAM memory modules highly as well. Toshiba RAM modules might work best with a Toshiba laptop, though there is at least one negative with them - see below.

However, Toshiba's RAM is the most expensive, costing over $500 for 2 4GB RAM modules, and only being available from their website, I believe (probably why it's so expensive), whereas Crucial's 2 4GB RAM modules can be purchased for just over $400 from Newegg.com, while 2 of Kingston's 4GB RAM modules can be purchased for about $338 at Newegg.com.

My question is, is one manufacturer superior to the other, or are all of them virtually the same? Toshiba's RAM probably works best due to its compatibility with the Toshiba laptop, but I've heard and read that other RAM manufacturers work well in them too, and both Crucial and Kingston get high marks. I've also heard that it's better to have two memory modules of the same manufacturer rather than mixing two different brands, though it can work at times.

Additionally, regarding the A505-S6960, the specs for it can be found via this link:
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...A505-S6960.pdf

My additional question includes, which one of these Kingston RAM memory modules would be the correct one?

This one:
Newegg.com - Kingston 4GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM Unbuffered DDR2 900(PC2 7200) System Specific Memory Model KTT800D2/4G - System Specific Memory
OR
This one:
Newegg.com - Kingston 4GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop Memory Model KVR800D2S6/4G - Laptop Memory

My thinking is that it would be the latter of the two; the former comes up when I input the model number that I received from the Kingston Memory Selector, but that is DDR2 900 Mhz PC2-7200, whereas mine is DDR2 800 Mhz PC2-6400, which is what the latter is, making me think that that is the correct module, not the former one.

Any help and advice on this would be greatly appreciated as well - thank you.

I don't have to upgrade the RAM immediately; this is just something I'd like to know about so that when the time comes and a hopefully lower price is offered, I'll be ready to act promptly.

Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

Sincerely,

Joe Chengery III
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick McCombs
    Joe, I have 3 computers. Dell, Compac and a Toshiba laptop and have used Crucial for every upgrade. Never had a problem with any of them. Good product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Me too. I have used Crucial on a few different clones including my Dell now. Never a problem.

    I wouldn't think the manufacturer mix and match would be the issue, but rather the pins config, speed and the other specs that would have to match perfectly -

    For example for a while I have used a mix of whatever memory Dell shipped with my PC and added Crucial to upgrade to more GB. 1+2=3 total.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Rick and Patricia,

    I appreciate the info. - thank you.

    I've heard Crucial is good - I've even thought of upgrading my old laptop (a Toshiba A75-S213 - I know it's older - 2005 - and can only be upgraded from 1GB RAM to 1.5GB RAM, though it wouldn't cost too much and might be worth it, especially since I still use the laptop, including right now!) and had thought about Crucial, but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea due to it having a Kingston RAM module, I believe. It's nice to hear that you can mix different manufacturer RAMs (same specs., of course) and still have an improved laptop.

    Again, I appreciate the info. - thank you. Any more info. (from you or anyone else), please feel free to add any you wish!

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
      Hi Joe,

      Crucial is almost universaly top rated on all counts including warranty
      and their nice selector utility. Not cheap but good. Still cheaper than
      proprietary modules from PC/laptop manufacturers tho'.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Mike, good to speak with you again! :-)

    Thanks for the info. - greatly appreciated! As mentioned, Crucial is a little more expensive than Kingston (about $70-$80 more), but considerably less expensive than Toshiba's RAM (by over $100), so if Crucial is that good of quality (as compared to Kingston), then it's likely worth paying more for it.

    I'll likely keep my eye on it to see if it drops over the coming months - being that the A505 is relatively new, I suspect that the RAM will drop over time (the RAM for my A75 is around $40 at Newegg.com; I suspect it was much higher around 2005 and 2006. :-)

    Again, thanks for the info. - greatly appreciated!

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Frankly, I don't think there is really that much difference. Just buy from a big name, the right type of memory.

    Having said that, the last memory I bought was Crucial, and it worked fine.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Steve,

    Thanks for the info. - greatly appreciated! I'll make sure to keep all the brands in mind, including Crucial. Thanks again!

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
      DDR3 Ram is likely to remain somewhat pricey for a good while
      as it has only lately been utilised by mainstream manufacturers.

      With Windows 7 and the dual core CPU I doubt that you would
      get any real gain in normal usage from adding another 4Gb Ram.

      About a month ago, I built my son a new Intel core2quad system
      with 4 Gb of DDR2 Ram and a midrange gaming graphics card.
      It runs quadcore apps like Photoshop, Vistaargh and Win7 plus
      quad core games like Crysis and Bioshock very well without
      getting more than slightly warm or even more than a slight
      murmour from the standard cooling fans.

      On that basis, I doubt you actually will need another 4Gb Ram Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Mike,

    I appreciate the additional info. - thank you! It's good to know that I may not have to spend any money. I take it from your post that you meant to say "DDR2," not "DDR3" as you mentioned in your first paragraph - is that correct?

    As mentioned above, the A505-S6960's fans rarely come on, and when they do, it's not for very long, and only today was the sound even noticeable, and that again for a few seconds at most, so it seems the latest Toshibas have much more efficient cooling fans, especially as compared to the older Toshibas, like my A75-S213.

    Speaking of my A75-S213, provided I upgraded the RAM from 1GB to 1.5GB RAM, does inserting a new RAM module into the laptop keep the information, files, etc. on my laptop intact or does it erase and/or corrupt it and will force me to download all programs, back up and restore all files, etc.? Any and all info. would be greatly appreciated - thank you.

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
      Hi again Joe,
      according to Toshiba Satellite® A500 Laptop Computers
      the range of models can have either DDR2 or DDR3 ram.
      DDR3 ram is pretty expensive. Some DDR2 Ram is now cheaper
      than the older DDR ram due to volumes and evolution lol.

      When the laptop is powered off ....nothing stays in Ram memory
      and all your stuff will remain as it should be on the hard drive.
      Any change in the size or number of Ram modules/sticks will
      be automatically detected and handled without your intervention.

      32 bit versions of XP and Vista would only "see" a maximimum
      of 3.7Gb Ram ....and ignore any extra installed above that.
      Not sure how much ram 64 bit versions of Vista and Win 7 can
      recognise .... but it is at least 4Gb in my recent experience.

      The crucial Computer memory upgrades for Toshiba Satellite A505-S6960 Laptop/Notebook from Crucial.com page does provide some
      interesting info of ~US$200 for a 4Mb stick of compatible
      DDR2 memory (cough).

      I would just enjoy your new laptop for a year or two Joe
      before spending out on extra Ram .... imho
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjid112
    I must say I agree with Mike. DDR3 is still expensive right now. I'm, too, using DDR2 and it is totally great in performance, at least until now LOL.

    Mmm, Mike are you sure about that? US$200 for a 4MB stick of compatible DDR2 memory? 4MB?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
      Originally Posted by sanjid112 View Post

      I must say I agree with Mike. DDR3 is still expensive right now. I'm, too, using DDR2 and it is totally great in performance, at least until now LOL.

      Mmm, Mike are you sure about that? US$200 for a 4MB stick of compatible DDR2 memory? 4MB?
      The Crucial price for a single 4Gb stick was £136 ... (approx US$ 200)


      LOL, would have been really pricey for the typo 4Mb ...doh!
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Mike and sanjid112,

    Thank you for the info. - greatly appreciated! :-)

    I think part of the reason why I was looking at more RAM was because of the Windows 7 Upgrade and the fact that it supposedly takes 2GB RAM to run (if it's 64-bit, which I'm pretty sure my A505-S6960 is), so I wondered if it would still run well. It does under Vista, but I believe the 64-bit Vista only takes 1GB RAM to run.

    Mike - I think some of the A500 models do have DDR3 memory, but I'm pretty sure the A505-S6960 only has DDR2 memory. I presume you can't upgrade to DDR3 memory, or can you? I'm not sure, but I am curious - I presumed any RAM upgrade would have to be DDR2 memory - am I mistaken on this or am I correct?

    I've heard that 32-bit Vista and 7 can only recognize about 3GB RAM or so; I've heard that you need 64-bit Vista or 7 to recognize more than that (up to at least 8GB RAM, I think; I haven't seen any laptops as of yet that can be upgraded past 8GB RAM - I presume that that's still only in the "land of the desktops." :-) Thanks for the confirmation!

    Still, from reviews and info. I've read online, it seems that the A505-S6960 and similar models run well under Windows 7 (from those who downloaded or got advance RC copies of it), so I just wondered if I'd need to get more RAM right away. It's nice to know that that's probably not necessary - I can afford to wait for a while and then reconsider.

    sanjid112 - I think Mike meant to say "4GB," not "4MB." :-) That would be pretty expensive DDR2 memory, and as mentioned above, my old laptop (A75-S213) can get a 1GB Crucial RAM module (instead of a 512MB memory module) for around $40 from Newegg.com, so Mike definitely meant to say "GB," not "MB."

    Again, thanks for the info. - I greatly appreciate it and learned much about RAM and how it works with a computer, as well as getting a better idea of when to upgrade and when it's not necessary.

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello again everyone,

    I decided to purchase the Crucial 1GB RAM module that will upgrade my Toshiba A75-S213 (my 4-year old laptop), since the cost wasn't that much ($35.99), plus I thought it might help to extend the life and usability of my laptop.

    I received the module, but have not installed it yet, as I have a few questions - any advice and info. you can provide would be greatly appreciated - thank you!

    1. If for some reason the module does not work (i.e. the computer will not boot and/or experiences problems, etc.), will reinstalling the old (512MB) module that is currently in my laptop allow it to boot again successfully like it does now? I still do a lot on this laptop, so I'd hate for something to happen to it by accident.

    2. I know there are two memory modules in the Satellite A75-S213 (2 512MB modules) - I think one of the modules is supposed to be removed and replaced with the 1GB module, but not the other one. Is there an easy way to know which one is the one to be removed? I'd hate to remove the wrong one by accident, then have to reinstall it and also remove the correct one.

    3. Any advice, info., or links on the best and easiest way to install RAM would be greatly appreciated - this will be my first time upgrading the RAM on a computer I own - thank you! :-)

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Joe Chengery III
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I wont used anything but crucial or kingston.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Michael,

    Thanks for the info. - greatly appreciated!

    As mentioned above, Toshiba recommended Kingston at one time before coming out with their own RAM modules on their website; the Kingston was a little cheaper than Crucial, though I've heard many good things about Crucial, plus they offer a limited lifetime warranty (I'm not sure if Kingston does or not).

    I have heard conflicting reports about Crucial working in some Toshiba laptops, but probably all brands of RAM have occasional problems with specific laptops of all brands from time to time, so hopefully, the Crucial 1GB RAM module I got above will work in my Toshiba A75-S213 with no problems.

    Thanks again for the info. - greatly appreciated!

    Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

    Sincerely,

    Joe Chengery III
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by jchengery View Post

      Hello Michael,

      Thanks for the info. - greatly appreciated!

      As mentioned above, Toshiba recommended Kingston at one time before coming out with their own RAM modules on their website; the Kingston was a little cheaper than Crucial, though I've heard many good things about Crucial, plus they offer a limited lifetime warranty (I'm not sure if Kingston does or not).

      I have heard conflicting reports about Crucial working in some Toshiba laptops, but probably all brands of RAM have occasional problems with specific laptops of all brands from time to time, so hopefully, the Crucial 1GB RAM module I got above will work in my Toshiba A75-S213 with no problems.

      Thanks again for the info. - greatly appreciated!

      Please take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!

      Sincerely,

      Joe Chengery III
      Ram used to be RAM! You were paying for MEMORY! There were TWO types(static and dynamic), and ONE rating(cycle time)! It was SIMPLE!!!!!!

      NOW, I doubt ANYONE can tell you how many types and ratings there are, and you are NOT paying for memory! You are paying for a memory MODULE!

      So the module working in one system does NOT mean it will run in another system EVEN if it is the SAME company, speed, and processor.

      Steve
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