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Impossible Code?

by Michael Oksa
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Hi Warriors,

I saw this online and couldn't figure it out. I think it's impossible, but thought you may know more about it.

HELP???

...........................12
..............375+
6089
........................3194
CAN YOU BREAK THE CODE?
That's exactly the way I saw it.

Maybe the alignment means something, or maybe it's a red herring.

Any thoughts?

All the best,
Michael
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    What exactly is it related to...that might help a tad.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    What Sal said,.
    Most code breaking starts with some point of reference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
    "You are here --> ."

    Does that help?
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Immensely Dave, giver me another 15 minutes or so and I think I will have it solved!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    The site (don't remember which one anymore) where I got it from said something like, "the solution is self-evident". My guess is that the information needed to solve it is already there.

    The other thought I had was maybe the words underneath the numbers are a clue. The way it's worded, etc.

    Also, the plus sign + is not helping.

    I like cryptograms, but this doesn't seem like a simple substitution cipher.

    ~Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author ghyphena
    The colours certainly don't make it easier either!

    Number of white squares/dots in front of each line: 27, 14, 0, 24. For general reference.

    The plus sign after 375 coupled with the lack of dots before 6089 lead me to wonder if those two numbers are a single element.

    I did trot down the path of thinking maybe the numbers referred to how many of each colour there were (1 "8", 2 "9"s) but then I more or less hit a wall.

    And then, continuing the counting theme, I thought the numbers represented iterations of each letter - but there are too many letters that only appear once (U, Y, B, K, D at least) and only two "1"s.

    One final meander into the depths of all that is random: 375+6089 = 6464. Relevant?

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    • Profile picture of the author Bjarne Eldhuset
      If you mark the text inside the code-box, you will see that there are lots invisible dots there too. Take a look at the screengrab below, where I marked all text.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Maybe this is the answer to 'what is the sound of one hand clapping'!

    ...finally
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I just had an idea!

    What if each number represents another number in the code?

    For example, the number "375" could maybe mean the 3rd, 7th and 5th number represented in the code.

    3rd number = 3
    7th number = 6 or 0 (depending on whether the "+" is counted)
    5th number = 5

    Hmmm...now that I look again, several of those numbers are the same as their position, but not all.

    Another thought: What if the numbers are meant to be read vertically, or some other direction?

    This is a tough one!

    All the best,
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    I've been coming back to this since you've posted. I
    actually figured out a numerical sequence that only
    works for about a third of it. Then I reminded myself
    that this is a code, and usually codes work out to mean
    something in words. A coded sequence, following some
    cute math thing, is just a math riddle.

    I've explored a number of possibilities that have not
    worked out. The person says it's self evident. So it's a
    matter of finding the right perspective, then it will be I
    guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    There is a correct and really simple addition equation
    that works, but I can't believe that is the point to this.

    Or maybe it's used to accomplish something else.

    16 + 13 = 29
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

      There is a correct and really simple addition equation
      that works, but I can't believe that is the point to this.

      Or maybe it's used to accomplish something else.

      16 + 13 = 29
      Hi Ken,

      I may be missing something, but I don't see how you got that equation.

      You're right, though, there is a difference between a number riddle/puzzle and an actual code.

      However, your solution may be correct. I'm really curious to see how you came up with it.

      All the best,
      Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Well Michael, it's really self-evident. lol. Ok, sorry.

    Take all the numbers of the same color and add them. They equal
    the 3 numbers that comprise the equation.

    Purple: 1,2,8,9,9 = 29
    Red: 7,6,0 = 13
    Green: 3,5,3,1,4 = 16

    Seems an unusual coincidence and may not mean anything.

    But, if you invert them, take the root-mean-square values,
    find the 3rd derivative, take the cosine integral with x,y limits
    to infinity... it works out to...

    12/21/12

    Whaaaaaaaaaa? Ok, just pulling your leg about that part.
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