Did You Know Volkswagen is pronounced Folks-Wagon?

Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Yes.

It is also sometimes translated as People's Car.

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Kevin Riley

14 years ago

And did you know we can thank Adolf Hitler for the Volkswagen? Goes to show that there are two sides to every coin, even one who has gone down in history as one of the most evil men.

He asked Herr Porsche to design a car for the people (das Volk). He wanted a car that all could afford.

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myob

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

And did you know we can thank Adolf Hitler for the Volkswagen? Goes to show that there are two sides to every coin, even one who has gone down in history as one of the most evil men.

He asked Herr Porsche to design a car for the people (das Volk). He wanted a car that all could afford.

And, Volkswagen bought out Porche earlier this year. Volkswagen-Porche is now the largest automobile manufacturing company in the world. Their production overtook Toyota with 4.4 million vehicles so far this year. Toyota, its closest rival, had 4 million in production. GM, which once was number 1, now sits in third globally. It's amazing and rather ironic how things turn out like that.

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John Henderson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by healymedia

I'd bet that 9/10 people out there driving Beetles probably don't know that Hitler himself produced the original sketch on a napkin!

The shape and layout of the VW Beetle (round body, air-cooled rear-mounted engine) were not decided by a German or an Austrian, but by a Czech. Ferdinand Porsche admitted helping himself to the design ideas of Hans Ledwinka....
Tatra T97 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by John Henderson

The shape and layout of the VW Beetle (round body, air-cooled rear-mounted engine) were not decided by a German or an Austrian, but by a Czech. Ferdinand Porsche admitted helping himself to the design ideas of Hans Ledwinka....
Tatra T97 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, it is AMAZING what rumors get spread. ESPECIALLY when they try to give a guy like Hitler any credit for any creativity. The VW bug was obviously built to be CHEAP, efficent, able to use materials they had efficiently, and work well. The air for the windshield washer came from the SPARE TIRE! The engine block was built out of magnesium! It was air cooled! The body type was even such where it could conceivably have been produced with less work.

Hitler MIGHT have said I want an inexpensive and useful car for the masses, etc.... He MIGHT have tasked Porsche with that. I DOUBT he did much more.

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David McKee

14 years ago

Originally Posted by healymedia

I've always loved this fact. It seems to counterintuitive and I'd bet that 9/10 people out there driving Beetles probably don't know that Hitler himself produced the original sketch on a napkin!

Actually it is not counter-intuitive at all. Hitler was a Socialist. Socialism, one of the various forms of collectivism, and whose driving philosophy is known today as "progressive liberalism", always seeks to "level" everything in an egalitarian fashion. So it should be no surprise that He would desire everyone to have the same car - a pregnant roller-skate.

Meanwhile those of ability are, in most socialistic situations, forced to work for the benefit of all (see "Atlas Shrugged") - however in Germany this was a bit different as there was an over-arching sense of "destiny" and animal power lust in the ranks of the elite that allowed some men and women of ability to achieve great things despite the fact that all forms of collectivism usually destroy individual achievement.

Only in those nations that recognize liberty and the freedom of the individual do we find real achievements.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Technically, most English speakers pronounce it Volks-way-gen. However, the German 'v' is pronounced like an 'f', AND the German 'w' is pronounced like a 'v', AND the German 'a' is typically the short vowel sound.

So, the "real" way to pronounce it is closer to Folks-Vah-gen.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

And did you know we can thank Adolf Hitler for the Volkswagen? Goes to show that there are two sides to every coin, even one who has gone down in history as one of the most evil men.

He asked Herr Porsche to design a car for the people (das Volk). He wanted a car that all could afford.

Originally Posted by healymedia

I've always loved this fact. It seems to counterintuitive and I'd bet that 9/10 people out there driving Beetles probably don't know that Hitler himself produced the original sketch on a napkin!

And...guess who joined Hitler in mutual admiration? In fact Adolf was quoted in the news as saying...

"I regard HENRY FORD as my inspiration"

And knowing Ford's background, it's likely the admiration wasn't due solely to his industrial prowess.

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Michael Motley

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

And...guess who joined Hitler in mutual admiration? In fact Adolf was quoted in the news as saying...

"I regard HENRY FORD as my inspiration"

And knowing Ford's background, it's likely the admiration wasn't due solely to his industrial prowess.

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Michael

Didn't Ford also have some major issues with the Jews? I remember seeing a book by him about the evil jewish empire

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KenThompson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

Didn't Ford also have some major issues with the Jews? I remember seeing a book by him about the evil jewish empire

Yes, Ford and many others did. There's quite a bit of dark history
with that.

When I was in Germany I learned about the volksmarches that
happened during the summer months. Basically it's just short
hiking the people do on the weekends.

When I first heard that expression there, I immediately associated
it with the VW and was very confused.
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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Technically, most English speakers pronounce it Volks-way-gen. However, the German 'v' is pronounced like an 'f', AND the German 'w' is pronounced like a 'v', AND the German 'a' is typically the short vowel sound.

So, the "real" way to pronounce it is closer to Folks-Vah-gen.

All the best,
Michael

BTW The CORRECT pronounciation is folksvahgen! Don't forget, V sounds like F, W sounds like V, and a is usually short(as far as english speakers are concerned).

Steve

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garyv

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW The CORRECT pronounciation is folksvahgen! Don't forget, V sounds like F, W sounds like V, and a is usually short(as far as english speakers are concerned).

Steve

Now I'm really convused... conwused? Oh I give up!

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW The CORRECT pronounciation is folksvahgen! Don't forget, V sounds like F, W sounds like V, and a is usually short(as far as english speakers are concerned).

Steve

Um...did you read my whole thread.

You just retyped my EXACT "real" pronounciation.

HELLO?

~M~

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seasoned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Um...did you read my whole thread.

You just retyped my EXACT "real" pronounciation.

HELLO?

~M~

Sorry, I didn't notice.
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- Michael Oksa 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by seasoned
  
  Sorry, I didn't notice.
  
  Hey Steve, no problem.
  
  I was just having a bit of fun.
  
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Banned 14 years ago

Vee-Dub have always had great ads.

YouTube - 1960 VW Beetle Ad

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loenex

14 years ago

I just know it today.lol It's interesting to know the fact or originn of a car.at this moment, many people still us volkswagen

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seasoned

14 years ago

The Germans simply combine words to get an idea across. SO, they don't REALLY have a proper word for "telephone". SURE, they have one like telefon(forgive the spelling if I wrote it wrong), but that is ADOPTED! The GERMAN version would really be fernsprecher, which means far or distance speaker. And facsimile would be fernkopier SO, cars were EXPENSIVE, and they had a lot of inflation, so they created the volkswagon(people's car).

It makes sense.

BTW it is said that NAPOLEAN thought it a miracle that the jewish people were still around. So hitler wasn't the first, and wasn't the last. He was simply the first in recent memory to go so far. HEY, look at the JEWISH book of ESTHER! Esther - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

The Germans simply combine words to get an idea across. SO, they don't REALLY have a proper word for "telephone". SURE, they have one like telefon(forgive the spelling if I wrote it wrong), but that is ADOPTED! The GERMAN version would really be fernsprecher, which means far or distance speaker. And facsimile would be fernkopier SO, cars were EXPENSIVE, and they had a lot of inflation, so they created the volkswagon(people's car).

It makes sense.

BTW it is said that NAPOLEAN thought it a miracle that the jewish people were still around. So hitler wasn't the first, and wasn't the last. He was simply the first in recent memory to go so far. HEY, look at the JEWISH book of ESTHER! Esther - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Steve

Now, no one can seriously threaten them again.

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Jared Alberghini

14 years ago

My first car was a 1979 VW Scirocco (that I never should have sold).

My second car was a 1988 16v Scirocco... soon followed by an '87 16v Rocco
(both of which I still own after 15 or so years since I scooped them up).

Here are my VW's... the '88 with the black rims, the '87 with the stock aluminum rims...

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Michael Motley

14 years ago

i love the old vw beetles. cheap (well, used to be), you can pull the motor in about 25 minutes, easy to work on. and if you know what you're doing you can actually make them pretty damn fast.

I saw a guy down here at a local 1/8th mile drag strip that had a beetle with an original configuration engine, though the block was severely beefed up, and he could pull 6's in the 1/8th. sounded like a psychotic chainsaw.

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jessiej

14 years ago

yup summit menon it's pronounced like that way anyways if i pronounce it wrong no one's gonna kill me

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seasoned

14 years ago

OOPS DAVID!

WATCH IT! You are providing MORE clues!

J/K, I am kind of kidding with someone here that doesn't seem tl understand people like hitler, and you and another hopefully are making it clearer. Of course, he got myopic, lost touch, was greedy, and nuts, but the basic premise was as you so clearly said. AND YEP! NAZI means national SOCIALISM, so he WAS socialist. I wouldn't be surprised at him asking for such a car, etc... but he didn't design it. It was probably like the US today with certain basic limitations, but the car industry fights out the details and compromises.

BTW the nazis, like ALL supposed socialist and communist organizations, has multiple "classes". It is IRONIC, but TRUE! After all, a REAL socialist or communist organization would require altruism that just doesn't exist to a large enough degree. AND, if even ONE non-altruistic person existed, s/he would likely want a place in government, and corrupt it. In NAZI germany's case, SOME in the higher class could actually do some worthwhile work, and had some success. HECK, they almost certainly did the same in Russia. One reason why people hate the US is because it provided a standard of living based on the negotiating, PR, work ethic, speed and/or technical ability of the person. That meant some could do REALLY well, and others didn't even BOTHER. Originally, the government didn't make much of a difference.

HECK, if Hitler hadn't worked his way up with the NAZIs, they probably would have evolved differently, and wouldn't be so hated today. And hitler worked the way up in a reasonable government through negotiating and PR.

Steve

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powderme

14 years ago

Did You Know Volkswagen is pronounced Folks-Wagon?yup i know will they arrest me if i cant pronounce it right?!lol

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Nathan Segal

Apparently, the beetle was actually designed by Hitler.

So you think HE designed that? There was a LOT to be considered. What material to build the block out of, how it was to be shaped, airflow, etc....

HECK, The people at Apple IIc had to go to a LOT of work to make THEIR system portable and air cooled. Even the II was more involved then some might think.

For those that don't know, the first processors generated MORE heat, some were plastic, which doesn't conduct heat as well, and were more sensitive. ALSO, they ALWAYS ran FULL BORE! The INTEL processors used in PCs today generally generate LESS heat, are metal or ceramic, are less heat sensitive, and will even STOP if they get too hot. They also cycle down is they start to get hot. ALSO, the Apple IIs were generally CONVECTION cooled, like the VW bug. The intel PCs today are generally FORCE COOLED like the average car TODAY.

AND, like the ceramic/plastic connection, magnesium/iron was a choice that had a big influence. Even the fins on the block had a purpose.

Frankly, I DOUBT hitler considered such things. HE was one of the MAIN reasons the NAZIs lost WWII! HE made sure the allies got advanced notice of EVERYTHING! I mean he micromanaged things, wanted to be saluted in each broadcast, and selected a patented obfuscating machine. Those 3 things together probably did MORE to help the allies than ANY other thing! Some credit military intelligence, but WHERE did they get the info? Some credit the computer, but WHERE did they get the messages they decrypted? HOW did they figure out how to decrypt it? The answer to ALL those questions? ADOLF HITLER! One of the funniest and most embarassing things of WWII! HECK, if they changed the code disk, the computers could figure it out based on the signoff salute in some of the messages(Even the term "heil hitler" helped win the war!)

Steve

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John Henderson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Nathan Segal

Apparently, the beetle was actually designed by Hitler.

Hey Nathan, take a look at post number 20...

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rondo 14 years ago

I love VW's. I once had an old Type3 fastback. Check out this classic fastback ad with Dustin Hoffman.
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