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As a male, I have been indoctrinated to leave the toilet seat up. For years I have gone along with this, but justice is nigh!

How unfair that we poor males should always be the ones to undertake that dificult task of lifting the toilet seat when necessary.

What is it with females? Are they unable to figure out if is up or down? Or are they unable to physically put the seat down?

From now on I will be fair to all. If I have used the toilet with the seat up, I will leave it up 50% of the time, put it down the other 50%.

How fair is that?
  • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
    I already have enough problems...I'll just continue to put the seat down.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

      I already have enough problems...I'll just continue to put the seat down.
      I hear that
      For the first time in more years then I can count I'm finally alone in the house with the only female being one of the cats.
      I still put the seat down out of habit and fear.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        I have learned to target with a very high precision. Leave the seat down, and never touch it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          I have learned to target with a very high precision. Leave the seat down, and never touch it.
          So...you sit?
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

            So...you sit?
            Nope. I stand straight up, and sight right down my precision barrel. But it requires a steady hand and keeping your eyes on the target at all times. I have never understood why this is such a problem.

            If all you have is a teenie weenie and can't get a good grip, then by all means put the seat up while you tinkle. But be courteous to those who follow behind you, and put the seat down before you leave.
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        • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          I have learned to target with a very high precision. Leave the seat down, and never touch it.
          I'll bet no-one else will touch it, either...

          Here's the deal...put BOTH the seat and the lid down and make her do some work, too.

          Become an equal opportunity antagonist.

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  • Profile picture of the author avandrunen
    As a happily married man who wants to stay happily married...I put the seat down...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I had this argument before.

    Having the seat up just doesn't look as nice as it does down. It is also a
    polite habit so the woman doesn't fall in if she doesn't want to turn a light
    on at night. It also hides all the spray you leave on the seat and rim until
    we can get in there and clean up just one more time after you.
    But if it's a problem to put the seat down - we can be fair:

    You can scrub that toilet as often as we do - and the sinks - and the floors.
    Learn to wipe the mirrors off after you splatter them too. You can also learn
    to wipe any spray from the front of the bowl and the walls, too - not my fault
    you drank too much to aim. When standing on the rug in front of the toilet,
    please stand closer to the bowl - it's shorter than you think and we get very
    sick of having to find a sponge or wash throw rugs, floors, walls that have
    been "painted".

    Now - If the request to put the seat down is too hard or too much trouble for you
    to accomplish - you need to figure out where the cleaning supplies are. You are
    all correct - fair IS fair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I had this argument before.

      Having the seat up just doesn't look as nice as it does down. It is also a
      polite habit so the woman doesn't fall in if she doesn't want to turn a light
      on at night. It also hides all the spray you leave on the seat and rim until
      we can get in there and clean up just one more time after you.
      But if it's a problem to put the seat down - we can be fair:

      You can scrub that toilet as often as we do - and the sinks - and the floors.
      Learn to wipe the mirrors off after you splatter them too. You can also learn
      to wipe any spray from the front of the bowl and the walls, too - not my fault
      you drank too much to aim. When standing on the rug in front of the toilet,
      please stand closer to the bowl - it's shorter than you think and we get very
      sick of having to find a sponge or wash throw rugs, floors, walls that have
      been "painted".

      Now - If the request to put the seat down is too hard or too much trouble for you
      to accomplish - you need to figure out where the cleaning supplies are. You are
      all correct - fair IS fair.
      See what you've done? Happy now Ron?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      ... You can scrub that toilet as often as we do - and the sinks - and the floors.
      Learn to wipe the mirrors off after you splatter them too. You can also learn
      to wipe any spray from the front of the bowl and the walls, too - not my fault
      you drank too much to aim. When standing on the rug in front of the toilet,
      please stand closer to the bowl - it's shorter than you think and we get very
      sick of having to find a sponge or wash throw rugs, floors, walls that have
      been "painted". ...
      If somone is so out of control they start hosing down the place, maybe you should take it up with them outside. Don't even mess with the seat.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        If somone is so out of control they start hosing down the place, maybe you should take it up with them outside. Don't even mess with the seat.
        If you're going to tell me there is no collateral splatter at your house, then you must be MUCH shorter than I imagined...
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          If you're going to tell me there is no collateral splatter at your house, then you must be MUCH shorter than I imagined...
          All of my children and I have fully developed pinpoint targetting capability. Training started at a very young age, with the seat up. Once they mastered the trajectory fundamentals with hands off, the seat goes down. And as they grew, trajectory calculations were adjusted for range and flow pressure. Here is a very proud moment of my youngest:



          One time we all peed right in my wife's coffee cup from 20 feet without even making a mess. And she never knew it. Of course, that's not something I would ever brag about around her.
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          • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            One time we all peed right in my wife's coffee cup from 20 feet without even making a mess. And she never knew it. Of course, that's not something I would ever brag about around her.
            So that begs the question...What kind of coffee is your wife drinking?

            How did that conversation go..."Honey? Did you put unsweetened lemonade in my coffee instead of cream?"

            "I don't know...Why are you asking?

            "Well, it used to be good to the last drop, but this cup tastes like it's good from the first drop."

            "Yea, we bought it at WalMart. The ad said Uhl never no the difference." :p

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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

              So that begs the question...What kind of coffee is your wife drinking?

              How did that conversation go..."Honey? Did you put unsweetened lemonade in my coffee instead of cream?"

              "I don't know...Why are you asking?

              "Well, it used to be good to the last drop, but this cup tastes like it's good from the first drop."

              "Yea, we bought it at WalMart. The ad said Uhl never no the difference." :p

              KJ
              Such questions never did come up, as there were more pressing issues in hand.

              It was November 12, 1978.
              The football score was Miami Dolphins 25, Buffalo Bills 24.
              One minute 30 seconds left in the final quarter.
              My wife was in the bathroom. A big coffee mug, nearly empty, was on the table.
              The kids and I were about ready to blow up.
              So tell me, what would you do?
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              • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                Such questions never did come up, as there were more pressing issues in hand.

                It was November 12, 1978.
                The football score was Miami Dolphins 25, Buffalo Bills 24.
                One minute 30 seconds left in the final quarter.
                My wife was in the bathroom. A big coffee mug, nearly empty, was on the table.
                So tell me, what would you do?
                I would no doubt turn the sound down on the TV, put some loud epic music on the stereo, heavy on the timpani, of course, and let 'er rip.

                High fives all around once the deed was done, and celebrate a testosterone overload of the highest magnitude.

                Only then would I offer my wife a drink of the Godly nectar.

                She, of course, can smell rat from across the room, so after I disinfected the entire house, including the driveway, I would probably question the wisdom of drinking those last two beers as the clock ran down.

                But the real important question here is this...

                Can you remember who won the game? :p

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        If somone is so out of control they start hosing down the place, maybe you should take it up with them outside. Don't even mess with the seat.
        LMAO - just read the way that sounded. NO I didn't mean that the mirrors and sinks get sprayed, but walls near the toilet, rugs, seats, etc, do get drips on them occasionally. I did have an ex whose drunk brother-in-law didn't even find the toilet and went all over the floor once and you better believe I did take that one outside!

        I was just saying that men don't always think about the fact that it is usually someone else who does all or a majority of the cleaning in that room and maybe if putting a seat down is too much to ask then maybe expecting someone else to do most or all of the cleaning is also a bit much to expect and they need to get their asses in gear and do half of the cleaning.

        Dave....too small does count in the BR...where the little rug in front of the toilet usually reaps the repercussions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    I have had lots of men in my life and not one has ever put the seat down and it is not a big deal to me.

    Is it any wonder that divorce rates are so high? People that supposedly love each other actually arguing about toilet seats and toothpaste caps.

    Where is the love?

    (I still have never gotten over splitting up with my first husband who wanted to argue about record albums and who had what when they came to the table - take them all, and just get the hell out) - this was very easily accomplished when he found all his stuff at the bottom of the stairs (on the street). Very efficient.

    yeh, where is the love.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraserb
    In my house I have 3 boys so invariable the seat is up and the floor is often wet !

    I try and put the seat down for my wife as I know she tells me their's too much testosterone in our house as it is!

    Fraser
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    There is/was a gay men's bar in Gay Bar, California (San Francisco) called the Badlands.

    They have a huge antique bathtub in the men's room for like a giant pee spitoon - (peetoon)

    I guess they got tired of cleaning and so big like that who could miss it.

    Now ask me how I knew that.

    (I can't remember how or why I would have seen that but I did, I guess when I say even my best girlfriends are guys, they must have given me a tour)
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    The only clear solution to me is that everybody should be trained
    to close the toilet entirely - seat and lid - this way everybody
    has to open it to use it.

    From a Chinese perspective it's very bad Feng Shui to have an
    open toilet; it allows your wealth to flush away.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    From a Chinese perspective it's very bad Feng Shui to have an
    open toilet; it allows your wealth to flush away.
    Interesting.
    I also heard that in Massachusetts that just having toilets makes your money
    flush away.
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