Over or under? This is also serious stuff.

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Well, I just read the most interesting post about whether or not the toilet seat should be left up or down.

That got me to thinking about related "serious" topic...

When changing the roll of toilet paper, do you make it so it goes over the roll, or under?

I prefer under.

My wife prefers over.

What's the solution?

~Michael
  • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
    Over.

    Just over....please.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

      Under (as in coming from behind the roll) generally will make the roll go longer as people pull more off when it comes over. That's the only difference that I know of.

      Yeah, I know all sorts of very odd tightwad tips...lol.

      Tina
      You have to be on the lookout for flippers. Some a**hole will flip the roll over and completely wipe you out.
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        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Some a**hole will flip the roll over and completely wipe you out.
        Now THAT is talent....
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Problem solved in this house.
        The paper roll sits on a small stool next to the toilet.
        The only wall close enough to the toilet for a paper holder is in back of the toilet.
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        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post


        I didn't know men knew how to do this. <ducks>
        I even know how to wash my own clothes AND cook for myself...
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        • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          I even know how to wash my own clothes AND cook for myself...

          I can tie my own shoes!

          As for the only solution to the toilet paper issue...

          Get rid of it. All of it.

          Place the old telephone books on the floor right next
          to the toilet.

          Problem solved.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Both.

    My kids don't make distinctions and they wrap that paper all over the house.

    White Christmas - even in March!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Over or under is not as important as having the first two or three sheets hanging down for easy access.
      Trying to find the beginning of the roll may result in severe damage.
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    under
    this causes a slight but useful amount of 'lift' to the roll.(not related to aerodymanic lift)
    Doing so, you'll notice the roll has less friction on the roller which helps to prevent
    Premature Toilet Paper Detachment.So, you can easily pull out 10-15 feet or more of one continuous portion to do your bidnez.

    over
    causes more friction on roller.
    load this way if you wish your guests use less paper and or you are nearing the end of the last roll in the house and expect you'll need to make at least another 'pit stop' before going for groceries to replenish the TP.

    For those guests you wish would GTFH put some shims in the ends of the roller to prevent the roll from moving at all so, only single sheets at a time can be removed.
    Yes, they can remove the roll from the roller.
    For those guests who are rocket scientists, I would devise something that is spring loaded which flies out when the roller is removed.
    maybe some ball bearings, to give them something to think about next time they feel like not playing fair and using more than they 'should be'.
    another idea is to have it hooked up to a mp3 player with the sound of that warning you hear in movies just before the submarine dives or the space ship self destructs.
    btw make sure you have stocked up on TP BEFORE you have that next Texas Chili beer party.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

      Under (as in coming from behind the roll) generally will make the roll go longer as people pull more off when it comes over. That's the only difference that I know of.

      Yeah, I know all sorts of very odd tightwad tips...lol.

      Tina
      That's my theory, too. Another way is to give the roll a slight squeeze so the cardboad tube is oval, this allows it to turn, but not freely.

      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

      Thank you, Dave! I now have an instructional video for the rest of the members of my household. They didn't seem to understand my directions nor demonstrations so perhaps the video will get through.

      Tina

      Edited: Never mind. They're doing it wrong...lol. Although I'm amazed that it's a guy's voice in the video. I didn't know men knew how to do this. <ducks>
      And I will duck, because I didn't know women knew how to do this. I have my own bathroom downstairs. However, more often than not, I get a call from the restroom, "Hoooonnneyyy!!!" and I know what that means. And I don't even use the TP upstairs!

      That being said, when we had one bathroom, we had a simple rule: Whoever changes the roll gets to decide which way it goes.

      All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      For those guests you wish would GTFH put some shims in the ends of the roller to prevent the roll from moving at all so, only single sheets at a time can be removed.
      Squish the roll a bit before you put it on and it won't roll easy. I did this to train children that they do not need 15 feet of paper for one tiny behind.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        And I will duck, because I didn't know women knew how to do this. I have my own bathroom downstairs. However, more often than not, I get a call from the restroom, "Hoooonnneyyy!!!" and I know what that means. And I don't even use the TP upstairs!
        I've been married twice, raised three children and now have a partner and two nieces we're finishing raising. My longest standing job has been Official Toilet Paper Changing Engineer...lol. Neither of my two husbands nor my son seemed to be able to grasp the mechanics of the task. Although, neither have any of the females besides me, either.

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          I've been married twice, raised three children and now have a partner and two nieces we're finishing raising. My longest standing job has been Official Toilet Paper Changing Engineer...lol. Neither of my two husbands nor my son seemed to be able to grasp the mechanics of the task. Although, neither have any of the females besides me, either.

          Tina
          LOL

          Sounds like we're kindred spirits in the oddest of ways.

          What always gets me is, why don't they look BEFORE they get situated?

          I never understood that. I mean, you're going in there, you know the process, doesn't it make sure you have the paperwork to get the job done?



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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Tina,
      I'm amazed that it's a guy's voice in the video. I didn't know men knew how to do this.
      We know all sorts of things that might surprise you. For proof of that, look at the homes of most bachelors over the age of 30. The confusion occurs because most women don't get much chance to observe men around the house until after they've gotten married. Shortly after that point, a great many men forget everything they ever knew about basic household maintenance.

      I blame it on our lower tolerance for pain.


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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        I just have to share this with everyone. I belong to Paul's newsletter, of course. I just had a brief email exchange with him and he mentioned this thread. It then struck me just how appropriate the title of that particular email was in relationship to this thread: Take a stand, or take a seat!

        Gave me a giggle:p

        Tina

        PS. How embarrassing is it for a ghostwriter to reply to one of the best writers I know and have a typo? Oops.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          I just have to share this with everyone. I belong to Paul's newsletter, of course. I just had a brief email exchange with him and he mentioned this thread. It then struck me just how appropriate the title of that particular email was in relationship to this thread: Take a stand, or take a seat!

          Gave me a giggle:p

          Tina

          PS. How embarrassing is it for a ghostwriter to reply to one of the best writers I know and have a typo? Oops.
          He's quite the gentleman.

          He probably never even noticed....aloud.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
            I'm sure he would notice but as you say, he's a gentleman. I, of course, noticed a nano-second AFTER hitting send.

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            Dave,
            He's quite the gentleman.
            Only offline.

            I refuse to become a Grammar Cop, even online. Especially given my penchant for typos...


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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Maybe this will answer the question?


              But is it even possible with a roll of toilet paper???

              :confused::confused::confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Maybe this will answer the question?

                YouTube - Over Under Sideways Down - Yardbirds (Page)

                But is it even possible with a roll of toilet paper???

                :confused::confused::confused:
                Thank you Steven! By George, I think you've got it! Just throw in a roll, and leave it there wherever it lands. You'll probably still catch hell for it, but you can always say it was the thought that counts.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kat Bartone
              Under (as in coming from behind the roll) generally will make the roll go longer as people pull more off when it comes over. That's the only difference that I know of.
              I think that's true. Maybe men need less than women - which if true, could explain Michael's and his wife's dilemma.

              So, just a gender thing? I DO prefer over...

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Q:How many men does it take to change a roll of toilet paper?

    A: No one knows. It's never happened.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Q:How many men does it take to change a roll of toilet paper?

      A: No one knows. It's never happened.
      Then why am I the only one that does it home, when I don't even use the upstairs bathroom?

      Just sayin'



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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        Then why am I the only one that does it home, when I don't even use the upstairs bathroom?

        Just sayin'



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        But you probably always get it backwards, so a woman has to come in behind you and correct it.
        The guys will never win. :rolleyes:
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    We don't want to fight, argue, or answer questions...

    "We just want a beer and to see sumpin' nekkid"
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

      We don't want to fight, argue, or answer questions...

      "We just want a beer and to see sumpin' nekkid"
      -Jeff Foxworthy
      Thanks alot, Dave. You got me laughing so hard, my beer splattered all over the place.
      Now I'm gonna catch hell from the wife for making a mess in the livingroom and the bathroom.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Thanks alot, Dave. You got me laughing so hard, my beer splattered all over the place.
        Now I'm gonna catch hell from the wife for making a mess in the livingroom and the bathroom.

        Oppppssss.....sorry.


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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Hang the roll under, and you get all kinds of useful logical benefits. Most of them are covered here, with the notable exception of "if the paper is in a location that's hard to see while seated on the toilet, you can more easily locate the hanging tail if you hang it under." This is also useful if you are in a house full of computer and music geeks who frequently pop the circuit breaker - sometimes while you're on the toilet, so you have to finish in the dark. There is no room in the house darker than the bathroom. I mean, complete pitch blackness. Ask any kid who owns toys that glow in the dark.

    But if you hang the roll over, it's prettier. So the average woman - who cares about "pretty" in the bathroom, for some ludicrous reason I simply don't grasp - wants it hung over. And since I don't really care one way or the other, I hang it over simply because I don't want some woman horrified to discover that I hang it "wrong." I've heard women claim they broke up with boyfriends over this.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    But if you hang the roll over, it's prettier. So the average woman - who cares about "pretty" in the bathroom, for some ludicrous reason I simply don't grasp - wants it hung over. And since I don't really care one way or the other, I hang it over simply because I don't want some woman horrified to discover that I hang it "wrong." I've heard women claim they broke up with boyfriends over this.
    Okay.....I made my completely sexist and insensitive joke, so now I can make a very honest statement that:

    IF you were to ask me right now whether I hang it up or down, I'd have to go look and see, and then couldn't guarantee you that is the way it is hung every time I change a roll. I have been known to just stick the roll on the floor and not even hang it until after a few uses. The lid as well as seat are always down because I have animals and do not fancy a wet slurping kiss unexpectedly hitting my face after he decided maybe to sneak an illicit slurp or two instead of asking me to fill his bowl.

    I really never would think that these issues would actually come up in a REAL conversation in a household. IF they really do.......maybe it's time to think of getting out more together and finding something fun to do together to talk about later instead of being stuck philosophizing about which way a toilet roll functions the best. How many times can you discuss it before boredom drives you to divorce? What's on next week's topic list....how many drops of dish soap is required to fulfill the task without under/over usage?

    Buy a bidet and just hang his and hers towels......and refrain from conversations whether the towel needs two or three folds.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
      Get a Japanese toilet. Not only do they include a bidet, they also have
      a toasty warm air blow dryer. No paper, no towels needed.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Lawrh View Post

        Get a Japanese toilet. Not only do they include a bidet, they also have
        a toasty warm air blow dryer. No paper, no towels needed.
        And we have a winner!
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Lawrh View Post

        Get a Japanese toilet. Not only do they include a bidet, they also have
        a toasty warm air blow dryer. No paper, no towels needed.
        But installing a Japanese toilet with air blower could take all day.
        Installing a roll of toilet paper - 20 seconds max.
        And unlike such fancy gadgets, even if you get the roll in backwards, it still works.
        Also, with a toilet roll, you don't even need to have it completely installed before using.
        Some of us heavy eaters and drinkers just don't have all day to mess around with contraptions like that.
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    This very topic is covered in Chapter 9, Pgs. 111 -113 of "Work The System" by Sam Caprenter to illustrate lack of innate systems thinking by the vast majority of people.

    Needless to say, a systemic analysis of the act of loading toilet paper on a toilet paper dispenser, and of the toilet paper retrieval process, gives only one possible conclusion...

    Over.


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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Don't get me wrong, I don't really care which way it goes. I prefer it under, but my bathroom downstairs doesn't even have a holder, so it doesn't matter.

    And for those who argue about it (I've seen it happen, almost coming to blows), I'd humbly suggest my original solution is a good one. Whoever chages the roll, gets to decide.

    Simple.



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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Kerr
    Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

    Well, I just read the most interesting post about whether or not the toilet seat should be left up or down.

    That got me to thinking about related "serious" topic...

    When changing the roll of toilet paper, do you make it so it goes over the roll, or under?

    I prefer under.

    My wife prefers over.

    What's the solution?

    ~Michael
    Michael, I am disappointed that you have breached my copyright on the "serious stuff".

    While I admit the over/under argument interests me (over, of course), this does not excuse your breach of copyright.

    Be advised that the full resources of Nar Nar Goon will be used against you.

    If you have trouble finding Nar Nar Goon, it is just north of Koo Wee Rup.

    I must warn you that you are likely to be attacked by bunyips, which are native to the area.

    Shame on you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Ron Kerr View Post

      Michael, I am disappointed that you have breached my copyright on the "serious stuff".

      While I admit the over/under argument interests me (over, of course), this does not excuse your breach of copyright.

      Be advised that the full resources of Nar Nar Goon will be used against you.

      If you have trouble finding Nar Nar Goon, it is just north of Koo Wee Rup.

      I must warn you that you are likely to be attacked by bunyips, which are native to the area.

      Shame on you.
      My sincerest apologies, Ron.

      Let's just flush the whole thing.

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    Apology accepted.

    I can tell the bunyips to go to bed as it is very late here.
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  • Profile picture of the author llamafier
    I never really thought about that... I guess it would have to be over. Just doesn't seem right the other way.
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    Any predictions how soon a single sheet of TP(one ply) is worth more than a single Dollar Bill or has that already occurred?
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      Originally Posted by John M Kane View Post

      Any predictions how soon a single sheet of TP(one ply) is worth more than a single Dollar Bill or has that already occurred?
      When it comes to the bathroom 1 sheet of any ply toilet paper is always worth more then a dollar bill. Do you know how dirty money really is
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