UK and Aussie warriors, need some clarification

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Ok, I keep hearing things in various places that i dont know the meaning to and i need some clarification.

For the u.k. people what does 'bollocks' mean?

For the aussies, wth is 'oi'?
  • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
    "Bollocks" is just basically a way of saying, "You're lying", or "That's wrong". It also has a different meaning;

    "Bollocks" is a word of Anglo-Saxon origin, meaning "testicles". The word is often used figuratively in British English, as a noun to mean "nonsense", an expletive following a minor accident or misfortune, or an adjective to mean "poor quality" or "useless".
    "Oi" is generally just used to get someones attention. For example, "Oi, come here!".
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      And yet, "the dog's bollocks" means the best of its kind.

      We're a strange bunch.





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      • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        And yet, "the dog's bollocks" means the best of its kind.

        We're a strange bunch.
        Ah, but it's a filthy variation of "the bee's knees" or "the cat's whiskers" -- anatomy most important to a particular creature. Also expressed as "the mutt's nuts".
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by John Henderson View Post

          Ah, but it's a filthy variation of "the bee's knees" or "the cat's whiskers" -- anatomy most important to a particular creature. Also expressed as "the mutt's nuts".
          Except that "the bee's knees" originated as a stylized pronunciation of "the business" - nothing to do with that particular insect's anatomy.



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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    Just to add 'the bollocks' from where I'm from means the best. 'top Bollocks' - ladies breasts. Bollocks can also mean talking rubbish or mens genitals.

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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Bollocks is used in Ireland too, but is usually pronounced in a way that sounds more like "bollix".

    Apparently, Colm Meaney (Chief O'Brien) shouted "Aah bollocks!" in the middle of an episode of Star Trek (I don't know which one) and it was left in by the producers who, it seems, just thought it was just something an Irish Starfleet Engineer might say.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      Knickers, Knackers, Knockers.

      Knickers = knickers

      Knackers = bollocks

      Knockers = boobs



      One for the Aussies - define 'munted'.

      I had it defined for me by an Aussie who said it, but I'm interested in whether it's Oz-wide.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rachel Goodchild
        love the word munted.

        there is a character on a tv series here called munter. he's a westie
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    Never heard of munted
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi skyfox7,

      Maybe it's a Perth thing. Or perhaps it has Irish roots, as the girl who said it was Aussie-Irish. Thomas?

      Apparently it means 'f****d up'.

      As in - 'Did you have a good time at the pub?'

      'I got munted.'

      Or - 'What's happened to that push-bike? All it's wheels are buckled.'

      'It's munted'.

      Or - 'Why not go and live in England?'

      'It's TOTALLY munted.'
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
          There is another one...what does 'Hackney' mean?


          Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

          The Tribe of Munt was a bunch
          of ravers from the East End of
          London, Hackney I do believe
          from about 10 years ago.

          I used to know a few of the
          guys from there.

          'Munted' usually refers to the
          condition you get yourself into
          after smoking too much skunk,
          it means to be exceptionally
          relaxed or 'munted'. Off your
          trolley. Off your face.

          Actually.
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          • Profile picture of the author Thomas
            Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

            There is another one...what does 'Hackney' mean?
            It's a place; a borough (administrative area) of London.
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
              Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

              It's a place; a borough (administrative area) of London.
              ah ok.. thats what I thought. whats so special about it that you can pick people out as being hackney on sight or when they speak?
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              • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
                Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

                ah ok.. thats what I thought. whats so special about it that you can pick people out as being hackney on sight or when they speak?
                In North America we can often tell what region a person is from by their accent. In the UK it's much more granular, apparently you can tell what part of a city a person is from by their accent.

                Conan Doyle used this as a plot device in a Sherlock Holmes story.

                Also used in Pygmalion.
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                • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
                  Originally Posted by Lawrh View Post

                  In North America we can often tell what region a person is from by their accent. In the UK it's much more granular, apparently you can tell what part of a city a person is from by their accent.

                  Conan Doyle used this as a plot device in a Sherlock Holmes story.

                  Also used in Pygmalion.
                  Yes, i think its something like accent. I also have always wondered what Cockney means. When i've seen people referenced as cockney or having a cockney accent, i can definately tell a difference in the accent
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                  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
                    Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

                    Yes, i think its something like accent. I also have always wondered what Cockney means. When i've seen people referenced as cockney or having a cockney accent, i can definately tell a difference in the accent
                    Cockney is generally a slang term for londoner. Manc - manchester person. Scouse(r) - Liverpool. Geordie - Newcastle. Mackam - Sunderland to name a few.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
                      Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

                      Cockney is generally a slang term for londoner. Manc - manchester person. Scouse(r) - Liverpool. Geordie - Newcastle. Mackam - Sunderland to name a few.

                      Rich
                      Is that a bad thing? Generally when i hear/see the refence it tends to be in sort of a derogatory manner. I guessed it to be similar to being called a redneck in the states. Someone thats kind of rough around the edges
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                    • Profile picture of the author Nick Barton
                      Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

                      Cockney is generally a slang term for londoner. Manc - manchester person. Scouse(r) - Liverpool. Geordie - Newcastle. Mackam - Sunderland to name a few.

                      Rich
                      Cockney is much more specific than London. It is the east end of London, a very working class area, whose inhabitants used to speak in rhyming slang, e.g. going for a rosie lee - a cup of tea or going up the frog and toad - road, johnny horner - corner.

                      Just to confuse others they would often only use the initial part of the phrase so you would hear someone say they were going up the frog, meaning they were going up the road which apparently meant they were going home.

                      I used to work with a couple of cockney speilers (barrow boys - the guys you would get selling on a stand) who used rhyming slang all the time to the complete confusion of the rest of us.

                      Cockneys used to be looked down on for their odd speech, but now it is considered cool to sound as if you were "honest working class" (or in old terms, "as common as muck") and many people affect a cockney accent.
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      • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi skyfox7,

        Maybe it's a Perth thing. Or perhaps it has Irish roots, as the girl who said it was Aussie-Irish. Thomas?

        Apparently it means 'f****d up'.

        As in - 'Did you have a good time at the pub?'

        'I got munted.'

        Or - 'What's happened to that push-bike? All it's wheels are buckled.'

        'It's munted'.

        Or - 'Why not go and live in England?'

        'It's TOTALLY munted.'
        People in Australia sometimes refer to vomiting as "munting". So, when they get really drunk they can be described as being "munted".

        It's generally used when someone has taken a lot of drugs, though.
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    Heres one you should find funny: Yobbo
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    I bet you blokes laugh every time you hear about us Americans "wearing a fanny pack", don't you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
      Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

      I bet you blokes laugh every time you hear about us Americans "wearing a fanny pack", don't you?
      Not as much as when you call your best buddy your 'mate'.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

        Not as much as when you call your best buddy your 'mate'.
        lulz... that's a good one.
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi,

            OK, catching up with some answers to multiple posts.

            Mark #14

            Now, how about one of my all
            time favourite words ExRat?

            Bafflegab.

            Any ideas?
            No idea, but it sounds like what you'd say to someone who is using talk (gab) to try and baffle someone - like a lawyer or politician would?

            Edit - just looked it up - bafflegab

            Have you ever read the Oxtail English Dictionary? I came across extracts of it as a kid in a book called 'Not 1984' by Not The Nine O' Clock News. Some of those words entered the vocabulary of my circle of influence ;-)

            Skyfox #15

            Heres one you should find funny: Yobbo
            That one's interesting. See here

            I didn't know it was Aussie, as it travelled over here years ago, whereas bogun is exclusively Aussie. I actually thought yobbo was British. Now I know

            Pat #16,

            People in Australia sometimes refer to vomiting as "munting". So, when they get really drunk they can be described as being "munted".
            Lol. We have 'ralphing', 'hurling' and 'chucking' - 'he just hurled a pavement-pizza.'

            Michael #17,

            There's also a word which is unrelated to the borough of Hackney -

            Hackneyed

            If you look lower down the page on that link, you'll see more definitions of hackney.

            Lawrh #20,

            In North America we can often tell what region a person is from by their accent. In the UK it's much more granular, apparently you can tell what part of a city a person is from by their accent.
            This is true. In fact it's so complex that even English people get confused by it.

            Probably the best example is where I am originally from - Birmingham. Outsiders call us Brummies. But they often get this wrong. There is a large chunk of what is shown as Birmingham on a map which is called the black country (due to it's industrial past.)

            It's not actually part of Birmingham, and the residents there will tell you this quite firmly and also that they are not Brummies. They have a very different accent, although it is based on similar tones.

            Yet on TV and nationally, when someone does 'a Birmingham/Brummie accent' it is a mixture of the two, with the accent heavily weighted towards the Black Country version - which is incorrect.

            Add to this that the real Brummies have variations depending on whether they are from North, South etc.

            Then add again that I am not a true Brummie - I was born just outside the border in Solihull, and guess what - our accent is again a slightly different version. Even within the Black Country itself, a West Bromwich accent is different to a Dudley accent which is different to a Wolverhampton accent.

            For confused Brits - compare Jasper Carott or UB40 (Brummie) with Ozzy Osbourne or Adrian Chiles (Black Country).

            Michael #24,

            Is that a bad thing? Generally when i hear/see the refence it tends to be in sort of a derogatory manner. I guessed it to be similar to being called a redneck in the states. Someone thats kind of rough around the edges
            (I disagree, Mark #26)

            Not in itself, but as you might guess, each area has stereotypical character traits associated with it, that are used for banter but are so well worn that each type usually hates them, not least because you can't accurately generalise, so they're false.

            Scousers (Liverpool) are associated with thieving.

            (EG What's the difference between Batman and a scouser? It's possible for Batman to go out without Robin')

            The brummie accent (when impersonated by outsiders) makes you sound thick (stupid), therefore we are thick. (Barry from Auf Weidersehen Pet - he had the most messed up imitation Brummie accent ever, even worse than 'Bomber's' East Anglian accent (he's (Pat Roach) actually a Brummie)).

            Northerners from Yorkshire all wear flat caps and have whippets as dogs.

            Anyone from East Anglia drives a tractor etc....

            Nick #27,

            Cockney is much more specific than London. It is the east end of London, a very working class area, whose inhabitants used to speak in rhyming slang, e.g. going for a rosie lee - a cup of tea or going up the frog and toad - road, johnny horner - corner.
            But there's also dispute about the 'real' East End and 'real' Eastenders. Although to outsiders, Dagenham, for example is the East End, I've come across many Londoners who say that 'real' Eastenders (real cockneys, or cockerneys) are the ones born within the sound of the Bow Bells, the classic barrow boys.

            Cockneys used to be looked down on for their odd speech, but now it is considered cool to sound as if you were "honest working class" (or in old terms, "as common as muck") and many people affect a cockney accent.
            You mean a mockney.

            Mark #31,

            There are quite a few words for
            'mate' here.
            What about 'geezer.'

            And in Australia, everyone is your mate - women, your girlfriend, your mother, your enemy, a policeman, a judge etc...Eg - 'I'm gonna kill you, mate'.

            In this part of the world, it's quite
            common for the old boys to greet
            you with, "Oi'roight me cock /
            cocker / 'andsome / love / lover /
            bird / boy?"
            You have some strange linguistic quirks down there. Although a Derbyshire traffic copper once called me 'love' (quite unnerving) and further up the road everyone is 'duck.'

            As I'm now living in the land of your sworn enemies, I'll have to see what banter I can dig up. Apparently, the way to insult a Devonian is something to do with 'a proper job.' Not sure if that one crosses the border to Cornwall as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author Thomas
              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              ...'hurling'...
              LOL. I'd forgotten about that. Hurling is actually the name of a sports game over here. A national sport, if you will... as big here as soccer is over there. If you told an Irish person that you "hurled all over the place", don't be surprised if the ask you who you play for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I'd like to make my way over to that side of the pond some day. I understand my family line has some basis in wales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      I'd like to make my way over to that side of the pond some day. I understand my family line has some basis in wales.
      Now they have their own 'real' language Michael.

      Oh and this is the longest railway station name in the world - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch located in Wales.

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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Mark,

        I'll be with you 'dreckly' Exrat
        Que? Now you've lost me

        Hi Richard,

        When did you move to Lanzarote? Or have you always been there. I have to admit I'm jealous. <- green.

        I'd like to join you over that way, to be honest.

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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas
        Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

        Now they have their own 'real' language Michael.

        Oh and this is the longest railway station name in the world - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch located in Wales.

        Rich
        Lol. We have the world's longest port name in Ireland: Muckanaghederdauhaulia. I'd like to see the drunken sailor say that.

        Still doesn't beat the Kiwis, though, with a place called:

        Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikm aungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu

        (That's supposed to be all one word. I don't know why that space is appearing in it!)

        Apparently, it roughtly translates as: The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

          Still doesn't beat the Kiwis, though, with a place called:
          Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikm aungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu
          Thomas, I think the domain name is available...


          @Roger, I'm guessing that "dreckly" is Cornish-speak for "directly". Or it could be Muttley's twin brother.



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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    dreckley sounds like something you would hear from a redneck in the states. Actually a lot of the people in the appalachians, what most here know as 'hillbillies' can usually trace their routes back to scots/brits/irish beginnings. Seems that most landed in the virginia/ky/ohio/tn area when they came to the states from europe.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
        Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

        What can I say to that?

        Are you implying?...
        Maybe you are in some way my redneck cousin. Do you ever use the word y'all? Have you ever went 'over yonder'? Evern been in a 'holler'? When you move into a new house, does part of the housewarming party entail removing the wheels from the house?
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      what most here know as 'hillbillies' can usually trace their routes back to scots/brits/irish beginnings.
      At least 40%, and probably as much as 50%, of all Americans are of Irish or British (English/Scottish/Welsh) origins, so there doesn't seem likely to be a connection.

      Although I could be wrong... it has happened (once).
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
        Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

        At least 40%, and probably as much as 50%, of all Americans are of Irish or British (English/Scottish/Welsh) origins, so there doesn't seem likely to be a connection.

        Although I could be wrong... it has happened (once).
        If 50% of the country can be traced back to english/scottish/welsh origins, and the biggest part of those people landed in this country on the eastern coast, all through ky/tn/va/wva/ohio that sounds like its highly likely that the 'rednecks' of this country can trace their lines back to your previous countrymen. My familiy lines started as Norman, then moved on to land in wales, england, scotland and france. When all branches of my family's tree hit this country in the late 1600's it was in those areas as well. Figures thats where most of the whiskey in this country is made...didnt want to move too far away from mommas teet
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Thomas, I could submit you and Mark to the redneck union at our next meeting. You can be like honorary rednecks...or maybe like a redneck ambassador for your countries.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
        Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

        My dearest Michael

        When we have the pleasure of making
        one anothers acquaintance, it is going
        to be my absolute pleasure to boot
        your rosy red bottom to kingdom come!

        From here on in, I am absolutely impervious
        to your aspersions and indeed will take no
        great umbrage at your utterly preposterous
        remarks.

        Bottoms up!


        Mark Andrews...
        See...thats a Redneck response right there if I ever heard one. You will make a fine representative.

        Don't take it as something bad..its not. Redneck is a badge of honor to those who are called by that tag. Hold your redneck head high.
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          Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

          See...thats a Redneck response right there if I ever heard one. You will make a fine representative.

          Don't take it as something bad..its not. Redneck is a badge of honor to those who are called by that tag. Hold your redneck head high.
          Not in the circles I run in Micheal!

          As my 91 year old Czecholslovakian grama would say. "Che Che, Lo Lo'"

          Translated, that means...loud, obnoxious, gaudy, low class, hillbilly, or redneck!

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