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Please Do NOT Copy And Paste From Other Sites

by Steven Wagenheim
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If you copy and paste from other sites like Wikipedia, you are infringing
on copyrighted material.

I don't think they would appreciate their content copied and pasted all
over the Internet.

If you want to link to a page of theirs, that's fine.

But do NOT print THEIR content as your own.

In case anybody is wondering where this is coming from, check the
Rock and Roll Obscurity thread and posts made by MW.
  • Profile picture of the author automoversny
    Its never going to stop , why not just post a link the article on wikipedia.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Daniel
    To be honest, I don't think many people/sites - especially Wikipedia - will really care. I was also under the assumption all of Wikipedia was public domain content except images and some pages marked otherwise. I don't know much about it though, and don't care to, just my perception.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by J Daniel View Post

      To be honest, I don't think many people/sites - especially Wikipedia - will really care. I was also under the assumption all of Wikipedia was public domain content except images and some pages marked otherwise. I don't know much about it though, and don't care to, just my perception.
      So when you get sued you'll just toss your arms up in the air and say, "Oh
      well?"

      You aren't sure but you THINK it's okay.

      Unbelievable.

      No wonder lawyers make so much money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Okay, I just went to the Wikipedia site and they specifically say that what
        is on their servers is their content and can't be scraped...though they
        admit that there are people who will do this and therefore can't guarantee
        that it won't happen, though they will try everything they can to prevent it.

        In other words, you're not supposed to do this...period.

        But heck, why not?

        I mean we illegally distribute other marketers ebooks and steal their
        articles, so why not this too?

        This is what I really hate about this world and it burns me to no end.

        Anyway, I'm done ranting.

        Thieves aren't worth anymore of my time.
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      • Profile picture of the author J Daniel
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        So when you get sued you'll just toss your arms up in the air and say, "Oh
        well?"

        You aren't sure but you THINK it's okay.

        Unbelievable.

        No wonder lawyers make so much money.
        I thought it was clear in my post I'm not sure and don't care to know because I don't ever intend on using sites like that. So if I get sued, it won't be for that.

        Adios amigo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Actually wikipedia doesnt mind if you use the information on their site as long as you cite them as the source, and they even give you pretty much every format for citing them that is accepted.

    It is a reference site after all.

    But the do warn you that anyone can write or edit a wiki article, so use at your own risk.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      Actually wikipedia doesnt mind if you use the information on their site as long as you cite them as the source, and they even give you pretty much every format for citing them that is accepted.

      It is a reference site after all.

      But the do warn you that anyone can write or edit a wiki article, so use at your own risk.
      Problem is, this person is NOT citing them as a reference. They are just
      copying and pasting as if it were THEIR material.

      THAT is why I have a problem with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Actually Steven, It is OK to copy Wikipedia. The problem may be with the term "scrape", which could put undo stress on their servers. But, Wikipedia does (or did) have a complete "dump" of all their content you could place on your own site. I did this a few years ago with my www.pheeds.com site.


    Here's their license copied from their site.

    Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This is a human-readable summary of the full license below.
    You are free:
    • to Share--to copy, distribute and transmit the work, and
    • to Remix--to adapt the work
    Under the following conditions:
    • Attribution--You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work.)
    • Share Alike--If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same, similar or a compatible license.
    With the understanding that:
    • Waiver--Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
    • Other Rights--In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:
    • Notice--For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do that is with a link to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
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    • Profile picture of the author Radix
      The Grays running this country (or their speech writers) have been stealing material for years.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Actually Steven, It is OK to copy Wikipedia. The problem may be with the term "scrape", which could put undo stress on their servers. But, Wikipedia does (or did) have a complete "dump" of all their content you could place on your own site. I did this a few years ago with my www.pheeds.com site.


      Here's their license copied from their site.

      Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      This is a human-readable summary of the full license below.
      You are free:
      • to Share--to copy, distribute and transmit the work, and
      • to Remix--to adapt the work
      Under the following conditions:
      • Attribution--You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work.)
      • Share Alike--If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same, similar or a compatible license.
      With the understanding that:
      • Waiver--Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
      • Other Rights--In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:
      • Notice--For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do that is with a link to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

      Thanks Kurt. I don't know. I'm certainly not a lawyer and maybe what
      this guy is doing is OK, but I wouldn't do it. I'd simply link to the article
      and leave it at that.

      Hopefully, you're right and Michael is right that these guys aren't going
      to go after posts in a forum on one hit wonders.

      Still, a little imagination and maybe writing your own thoughts wouldn't be
      too bad a thing...you think?
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      • Profile picture of the author Radix
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Thanks Kurt. I don't know. I'm certainly not a lawyer and maybe what
        this guy is doing is OK, but I wouldn't do it. I'd simply link to the article
        and leave it at that.

        Hopefully, you're right and Michael is right that these guys aren't going
        to go after posts in a forum on one hit wonders.

        Still, a little imagination and maybe writing your own thoughts wouldn't be
        too bad a thing...you think?

        Are you serious?

        This is the internet and I can show you how to make $60,000 in 60 seconds and it won't require any effort on your part.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    He's also just posting on a forum in a random conversation and has links in there that go straight through wikipedia.

    I may be wrong but I just dont see the wikipedia NOC activating the lawyer team's emergency phone tree over excerpts of one hit wonder pages on the WF.
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