Can You Be Bought?

How much and what would i have to do? As long as nobody gets hurt or killed i could be for the right price.

Realistically if i set 1 million in cash in front of you and said "Steve start singing" could you really walk away?

WOW Steve - I hope it wasn't my name that put you off on these kinds of thoughts, LMAO.

Ya know....System of a Down was opening up for someone pretty well known and loved in the industry -- can't remember now who, Tool or Nickel Back, someone like that. Now these guys really sucked 100%. Everyone was thinking that they got some sort of pal boost onto the stage. And that may well be - as bad as they stunk up the place, it wouldn't have been anyone's surprise.

But, low and behold, being on stage actually helped them develop their talents and if you go see them in concert today, you are in for one load of awesome getting down with it. Whatever the deal was that got them up there - they sure took over and made it real.

And what if someone you knew was going to pull you into a seat of power because they were trying to buy a yes man. You knew if you had the chance to get there, you could actually do some good, even if you had to betray a shoddy hand up. Would that fact that you could turn it around and make it good - make it real justify grabbing the dark deal?

I think if I firmly believed I could go on from the buy off and make it real, I probably would take the deal.

Uh........Steve.......if you are offered anything on the song, for any reason - TAKE IT! I'll keep writing til you make it real, pal.

Well, I see this as a more complicated issue. Could I be BOUGHT? NOPE! But I could maybe be RENTED! If someone wanted me to lie about something, I would probably NOT do it. If someone wanted me to break the law, I probably would NOT do it. If it were too much, I would have to assess the situation.

At this point, I even question some things that ARE, in their immediate sense, legal. One company had me change a contract, and I later found it facilitated an embezzlement. IRONICALLY, they ended up stealing from ME.

BUT, if I felt I was as musically talented as others, that I RESPECT, that did well, and given a deal like you said, I would probably GO FOR IT! Of course, I am NOT that talented(at least not as talented as people whose talent I RESPECT ), so I wouldn't. I could never, in good faith, try to sell music I play, even though it would be better than a LOT of the garbage out there, because I would want to sell something BETTER!

As for sleeping with someone? If it were a nice woman that I respected, was healthy, and it would go somewhere, GREAT!!!!!!!!!! I would LOVE the money, but it would be a BONUS! Otherwise, FORGET IT!!!!

Steve

I guess the conversation can change with the amount of money, a few grand is different then a few million. Steve i would never ask you to sleep with me! not even for money!

Eveyone has a price, i guarantee it! Its easy to sit on WF and claim otherwise but money talks and most people listen to it! Look at all the crazy crap that goes on in this world because of money. Better men then I and anyone here have crumbled under its weight and temptation.

I will go out on a limb and say if you claim you have no price you are either lying or delusional

In general... I'm a whore. I do have some limits, but everything is for sale.

Like most people in the world, I am corrupt, and I do have a price. It's not very high either.

I'd definitely be bought in this situation. I mean, it'd be the big break I need. It's not that I'm gonna stink forever.

Not 'everyone' could do it! What are the chances that they'd meet this guy?

People are born with different advantages. I mean, Tim McGraw's dad was a baseball player. He had all the riches to pursue whatever he wanted to. He chose music. Now, he started somewhere and I'm sure he was not as good as he is today (or atleast I think he is). He improved and I would too. Another case, Miley Cyrus... uhh.. hmm.. Enough said.

Now, it's not fair that all of the wannabe musicians don't have rich dads/moms to back them up and that they would have to fight their way into the music industry, with little to no hope of success..

So, maybe this would be the 'advantage' that I have over the others.

Now, I'm not talking about killing someone, robbery and stuff but this situation is very acceptable.

Sumit.

i can't be bought.

but i can be rented for a reasonable rate.

I've sold my soul to my employer in the past. I guess I could be bought.

The one thing i could never be paid to hurt or betray was my family. But people also forget that money will not make you happy. While it does make life easier it will not fill a void that is missing, i think thats what alot of people who do dumb things for money are trying to find.

Steve.........consider,

So a few experts tell you that your work stinks. You turn down a "deal" because it seems to crush your need to have the work stand on it's own merit.

What if the experts are wrong? You will spend your life wondering what could have been.

Do you realize that many of the classic books that are now read and known by about anyone with an education were turned down by sometimes hundreds of publishers?

What if you "sell your soul" and the public goes wild over what you did? It happens. The experts are often fooled when a movie, record, or book they wouldn't look twice at turns out to be a genuine hit with the people.

A deal might only be a cheap pay off for someone else's favor - but unless you get your work out to the public, you will never know if they like it or not. The deal might not have been what you crave........but it's the public which has the say whether they like it or not.

If you take the deal and feel like crap for it -- will your feelings be the same when millions flock to the store to buy your work? Would maybe you be able to look back and say you wouldn't believe how far I had to bend over to get started and laugh?

There are a hell of a lot of people out there with connections that pull them through because of who they know...........but that doesn't mean that the public will buy them.

Wouldn't it be better to know for sure than to spend your life wondering what might have been?

Well if money can't make you happy, then what are you doing here?

If it makes you so unhappy, let me help you...send me your money and you can be happy as you want to be.

well thats mighty big of you steven. :rolleyes:

"I'm grateful for my money, but I'd be a lot happier if I had my health.

And money can't buy that because doctors are not gods."

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be happier with both, money and better health.
And while money can't buy me perfect health, there seems to be a thriving black market for kidneys.

Black Market Kidneys, $160,000 a Pop - Crimesider - CBS News

how does one sell a kidney? i've got a spare...

do you call up kidneys 'r us?

I think that a lot of people have their price. More so than not. But there are always people who cannot be bought for whatever reason.

Which reminds me of the line, we already determined what you are, now all we are negotiating is price.

Oh im sure its kittens or puppies or your family..etc..etc. Anything but money.

Thats why you have been posting 12 times a day for the last 3 years in an internet forum that is centered around making money, and there are about 125,000 entries in google relating to you and making money on the internet...because its really puppies make your day, not money...right T

Yeah, we understand each other. You have no other explanation for the posts and the endless entries into search engines for your wso's, sites, plans, offers...other than the pursuit of money so you're best reply is to stomp your feet and threaten to tattle to the admins.

must make ya feel a little dirty doesn't it?

Hey i know, why dont you throw out your patented 'threat' of how you hope I never need anything from you in the future, as though I somehow did in the past...that'll show me.

you kidding me??? of course i won't

and yet you've spent how many pages arguing with it?

no problem. glad to help out.

I knew that it would be.

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Made ya look.

ou are wrong...not everyone believes that money is the "be all and end all"

The problem with the excess greed in this society is that people have been conditioned and literally taught to be unscrupulous consumers. Eventually the programing to buy each latest greatest toy not only made people more aware of the material status of owning items, but actually transferred their self-esteem from actual self to the material show of the self, which in the long run was tied to their monetary ability to own things.

As a result, when you look around you now, you will see that people feel that anyone who is not wealthy and is not in major ownership of large houses, flashy cars, latest designer fashions, etc, and so on is just not a decent human. They are considered mongrals by their own people. Look at this thread - anything for a buck. That is because the buck is where they hold their self esteem. Look at the jail thread - there are people in jails because they could not afford insurance for cars they absolutely had to drive. Yet these people are lumped together with those who murder, rape, and steal in the minds of many - they are all the same. Not rich = criminal deserving of being brutalized and contained.

While wanting enough money ("currency" if you will, Kay) to give you necessities of life is completely understandable, but when you talk about selling your dreams for a million bucks what you see is people whose dreams do not go beyond a million bucks. They have no valuation of the thrill of achievement for it's own sake beyond their ability to make the mighty dollar from it.

For those people, no matter WHAT they accomplished it would make not one damned difference if they created the most powerful piece of work in the history of their own time unless it produced ridiculous amounts of wealth for them.

This is the reason I feel our society has become a vast wasteland of hollow shells of people who will consume anything in their path to acquire money. Unfortunately - as we can see, when a society feeds on itself, it crumbles. Also unfortunately, these organic wastelands never quite understand what it is they are lacking and they continue to consume and steamroller anything around even after they ARE wealthy in an attempt to gain more........and never realize the one REAL reason that more than enough cash isn't doing the trick for them.

We can feel sorry for these people - but also must be aware of the dangers they are to us all.

There are those that still hold something inside above acquisition and these people need to stay united or they will be consumed by the rest......a live retake of the Dawn of the Dead. Only when others can see the strength in that unity that goes beyond what they can reach into their pockets to grab will they be rendered back to into the world of deeper esteems and values that give meaning to life and community - our children must always be exposed to those who value what they create or humans will soon become nothing more than robots for the wealthy to command as easily as a stroke of their pens.

Make your money - it DOES give necessities, it does give a bit of comfort and power. Do not trade that for your sense of worth in that which you create, though, or you are as good as a dead man walking.

"(Question #26 = Would you be willing to kill an innocent person if it would end hunger in the world?)"

The problem with things like this is they are dealing with impossibilities.
There is no way killing an innocent person could end world hunger.

On the other hand, as unlikely as it would be, someone could offer someone a millions dollars to sleep with someone.

Film At 11!

First Alexa Smith playing the harp, and now Wagenheim and Motley Spooning! Am I in another dimension? What the heck's going on in here? Did I miss some good Christmas hooch or something?

There are things I may do that I don't LIKE or WANT to do for money.

But I won't lie, I won't steal, I won't break a law.

I'm not going to Hell for any amount of money. (Or at least I am going to try NOT to go to Hell.)

Well, if I was standing on a corner NO! But if you wanted to buy my business then yes! LOL

Well many people say they wouldn't but I believe although it might sound harsh that anyone can be bought...it's just a matter of amount of money. Maybe a person who is living a great life somewhere away from modern civilization and found money really useful in this life...maybe that person wouldn't. But then again - the chances are - nobody will ever try to buy you for the price you consider to be your price (millions for example), so most people would say no.

Now, this is the coolest thread ever!

People on the edge of prostitution, Steven Wagenheim becoming the new hottie and me discovering what "spooning" is.

Way To Go!

And the reverse is also true - you can believe in something with all your might -- and sometimes a fairy tale just remains a fairy tale no matter how much you want it to be the truth. Because you see something as "truth", doesn't make it so. It just makes your belief so.

I am on the side of those who may be bought in certain terms, but when push comes to shove, if something really violates their principals or compromises their ultimate dream (other than that of being rich) they can stand and say "no thank you" with no regrets or remourse -- and do so not because they are afraid of what the ultimate consequences may be, but because the offer was not in accordance with the foundation upon which they build their own self.

Ok, I admit it...Brad Pitt could have me for a million dollars.

I'm so ashamed.

Yes I could. It all depends on the situation. I don't think I could be bought in an illigal transaction but if it was legal and the price was right I could be bought. If I was an athlete in school and had an opportunity to play college ball and a person in the NBA offered me several millions to play professional ball, I would definitlely take that buy out. There are all kinds of situations that we are bought out and does not include money. Sometimes we adapt to the situations in our work force and go along with the wishes of the higher ups rather than taking a stand and risking loosing your job. That buyout is done everyday.That question is loaded with lots of scenarios that some might not consider being bought. It depends on your personal philosophy of being bought.

Syliva Rolfe said:"(Did you know 99% of stats are made up...)

I'm sorry Sylvia, I have it from good sources that it is actually 86% of all stats are made up.

We're gonna be calling you something else if you don't hurry and slide that X-mas tree outta the way and get in your studio and put some music to that Wagentaylor hit song that's getting stale.....

We're waaaaaitinnnngggg...... ;>)

So Karen is another.....you have another here. All I want is the freedom to go where and when I want and a dog to go with - a man if and only if the right guy that I enjoy being with is around to join us. Fancy house? No kids, no need - all I need is a small place in the mountains or very near to them.

Could I live with having a lot of money? You betcha I could. Could it make me happy? Only if I had the freedom I need and a dog to love, possibly a man......but there's a lot of em who think just like that and that I can do without any day of the week, rich or broke.