Hey Sal...I Got Good News (Updated Jan 7)

14 years ago

This whole thing is awesome, Steve.

You think that writing music for lyrics is tough? Try writing lyrics when you
have no idea what the tune is, LOL. I think we both have to have had some major
dementia at hand for this one.

No matter how it turns out though.....It was a great and fun experience and I'm
glad we did this. Next time, maybe you can write the tune and send it to me
to add the lyrics to it?

Frankly - I'm still having a hard time believing that I wrote lyrics that you actually
liked. Maybe I'm better at the weird forms of writing game than I thought I was.
Lets hope so, eh?
Gives me hope for this damned novel I just started writing, though.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

This whole thing is awesome, Steve.

You think that writing music for lyrics is tough? Try writing lyrics when you
have no idea what the tune is, LOL. I think we both have to have had some major
dementia at hand for this one.

No matter how it turns out though.....It was a great and fun experience and I'm
glad we did this. Next time, maybe you can write the tune and send it to me
to add the lyrics to it?

Frankly - I'm still having a hard time believing that I wrote lyrics that you actually
liked. Maybe I'm better at the weird forms of writing game than I thought I was.
Lets hope so, eh?
Gives me hope for this damned novel I just started writing, though.

Actually, writing lyrics without music isn't that hard.

Here's a trick.

Pick a melody that you know and write new lyrics to it.

You'd be surprised how many lyrics could fit multiple songs as there are
only so many meters you can come up with.

That's another trick.

Come up with a rhythm in your head and write to that. It doesn't matter
if I know what that rhythm is or not because there are multiple melodies
that can be written to one rhythm.

And there are other things you can do that makes writing lyrics a piece of
cake. The hard part is getting them to make sense AND rhyme.

Of course not all lyrics have to rhyme, but then you better be one hell of
a story teller.

I've always been fascinated by the art of songwriting because there are so
many ways to go about it.

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seasoned

14 years ago

So, will WE ever get to hear them?

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

So, will WE ever get to hear them?

Steve, as soon as it's done, I'm going to upload it to YouTube.

I'm shooting for early February.
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HeySal

14 years ago

Thanks for the Info Steve. Um........looks like I did it right. I kinda sang
along while I was writing...as you pointed out though, my musical orientation is
bizarrely different from yours. You remember the email though that told you
what I had in my head for the melody of the first verse and the switch of tone
from there to the second? Yep - I was singing. But you don't want to know
more about that, because at that point it can become very scary science fiction.

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Killer Joe 14 years ago

Steve,

Once you get the song on tape let me know if you want a video done for it.

I promise I'll make it better than the last one...

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- Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Killer Joe
  
  Steve,
  
  Once you get the song on tape let me know if you want a video done for it.
  
  I promise I'll make it better than the last one...
  
  KJ
  
  How can you possibly top Dave Matthews sings Steven Wagenheim?
  
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  Killer Joe 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  How can you possibly top Dave Matthews sings Steven Wagenheim?
  
  I was thinking we'd get The Ruttles involved...
  
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  Karen Blundell 14 years ago
  
  I can't wait to hear it...please keep us all updated, Steve and Sal
  
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HeySal

14 years ago

Karen, I can hardly wait, too. Not only am I not a lyrics writer, I am into a whole
different type of rock than Steve is. This is what you call something bizarrely new and different for 2010. Here's to hoping it's our year, eh? LOL.

KJ......um...Video? You're not gonna dance in a mankini or anything are ya?

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Dave Patterson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

You're not gonna dance in a mankini or anything are ya?

Did you HAVE to say that? Arrrgggggggg....
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- HeySal 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dave Patterson
  
  Did you HAVE to say that? Arrrgggggggg....
  
  Yes, Dave. Yes, I did. Got to keep the bases...covered.
  
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Killer Joe 14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

KJ......um...Video? You're not gonna dance in a mankini or anything are ya?

Sal, I'm guessing you didn't sleep very well last night did you?

OK, but just this once...

KJ
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- Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago
  
  **UPDATE **
  
  Sal, got the main acoustic and electric guitar parts down and the lead vocals
  for the first part of the song up to the first chorus.
  
  This is very different from anything I've ever done before.
  
  Can't wait to see how it turns out.
  
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Michael Motley 14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

KJ......um...Video? You're not gonna dance in a mankini or anything are ya?

I feel the need to pry my skull open with a screwdriver and scrub my brain with a wire brush to get that image out of my head.
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- seasoned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Michael Motley
  
  I feel the need to pry my skull open with a screwdriver and scrub my brain with a wire brush to get that image out of my head.
  
  GOOD, I'm not the ONLY one! Put up the picture of you and your cat again, and maybe THAT will help! 8-)
  
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  Killer Joe 14 years ago
  
  I had to use a can opener and some Clorox, myself.
  
  I'm not sure how my wife stands it.
  
  Especially when her friends come over...:rolleyes:
  
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Karen Blundell

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Karen, I can hardly wait, too. Not only am I not a lyrics writer, I am into a whole
different type of rock than Steve is. This is what you call something bizarrely new and different for 2010. Here's to hoping it's our year, eh? LOL.

different is good! it's always fun to challenge ourselves and step out of our comfort zone. I believe 2010 will be a good year for many of us.

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GT 14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

KJ......um...Video? You're not gonna dance in a mankini or anything are ya?

Man-kini, bi-kini ... whatever KJ prefers to wear ... If the video includes "Sal's Song" with Steven's arrangement, I want to watch it.

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- Killer Joe 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GT
  
  Man-kini, bi-kini ... whatever KJ prefers to wear ... If the video includes "Sal's Song" with Steven's arrangement, I want to watch it.
  
  GT
  
  No you wouldn't. Trust me, if that happened your words would come up faster than a gopher out of geyser hole.
  
  I will take that as a compliment though...:rolleyes:
  
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  GT 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Killer Joe
  
  I will take that as a compliment though...:rolleyes:
  
  KJ
  
  lol - Don't want to discourage you, but I'd better clarify my earlier statement: when mentioning your mankini, when I said "I want to watch it," I was referring to the video of Sal's Song... not your ... well, you know...
  
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HeySal

14 years ago

At any rate, GT -- The fact that Steve is the vocals on the song should keep it safe to listen to at any rate. If I were the vocals, we might have some very interesting responses and any contract in the offering would be from pest control companies thinking that it was another new sonar device to drive off rats. Trust me on that one.

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GT

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

At any rate, GT -- The fact that Steve is the vocals on the song should keep it safe to listen to at any rate. If I were the vocals, we might have some very interesting responses and any contract in the offering would be from pest control companies thinking that it was another new sonar device to drive off rats. Trust me on that one.

lol -- Maybe you are too self-critical? If not, I can relate: vocals are definitely my weak point -- that's one reason you don't see any videos of me.

So, with your good looks as the cover model (and with recognition for the lyrical inspiration), and with Steven's musical talent, it should make the WF Top Ten Hit Parade ... maybe even on YouTube, too!

GT

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HeySal

14 years ago

Well it's on the forum now GT - go give it a listen - it's the post that starts "FREEZE.......

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GT 14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Well it's on the forum now GT - go give it a listen - it's the post that starts "FREEZE.......

Hi, Sal:

Yes, I noticed it after posting in this thread (I always start at the bottom of the threads with new posts and work my way up).

It's a great production, a great collaboration between you and Steven. I left a comment there:

http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...wagenheim.html

Congrats on the achievement, both of you!

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