Are UFO's among us from other planets?

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In 1966 I was traveling with a baseball team in South Dakota. To make the story short it was the beginning of UFO investigations. That sighting by all of the team members is marked on a map now of all time UFO sites. I believe what I saw but don't really know what it was as well as the rest of the players. Tell me if you believe in UFO's or not and explain if not why not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I think everyone believes in UFOs - after all, that just means Unidentified Flying Object. Not everyone believes there are aliens and that the UFOs are their spaceships, however.

      I've always felt it would be too arrogant of us to think that out of all the millions of planets out there, ours would be the only one to have life develop. Even if you believe in creationism, there is nothing in the Bible that rules out God creating life on other planets. In fact, there is a point where it mentions angels ruling on other worlds - who's to say what that meant?

      I do think if aliens were to visit, they would likely run away and make a note on the star chart that our planet is not quite ready to join the rest of the universe. We would be a dangerous element to a peaceful universe.

      If aliens really exist and have visited, they must be peaceful - otherwise, they would have wiped us out already in the fear that we may someday leave the planet. Face it, we're the only species on the planet that kills each other for no apparent reason and the only species to keep other organisms in cages and on leashes.

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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Rayne
        The universe is (to the best of our knowledge) infinate.

        That's pretty big

        There is also (to the best of our knowledge) parallel dimensions which raises chances of another planet almost exactly the same as earth being out there.

        It has been said that, for every choice you make, there is another parallel dimension where the 'alternative you' makes another choice. There are thousands/infinate choices, times that by the number of people on the planet and the idea is astounding. Infinite parallel dimensions.

        But that is 'off-topic.' LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I've always believed there are other societies of some kind out there - because I'd hate to think WE are the best there is.

        I'm sort of with Tina on this - I think if we met "the others" we might find ourselves at the bottom of the food chain.

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          I'm sort of with Tina on this - I think if we met "the others" we might find ourselves at the bottom of the food chain.
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          I think that's the last thing the majority of people would think about.
          If we met "the others" the radical religious groups would be frantically running around claiming they are creations of the devil and society as we know it would simply fall apart.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Rayne
        I am not trying to 'act smart' or anything (I can't act that well!) but, humans don't kill for no reason. They kill for satisfaction/pleasure/fear/defense ect. like certain animals do. I don't think I can explain the cage/leash thing though...spiders, flys and webs perhaps...? Maybe not.

        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        Face it, we're the only species on the planet that kills each other for no apparent reason and the only species to keep other organisms in cages and on leashes.


        Who knows, maybe one day we will be the aliens that other planets talk about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Rayne
    They are us...from the future. Seriously...

    ...Maybe.

    Makes sense though...it's simply evoloution. More and more tasks are done by;

    Computers = long fingers for keyboards

    No manual work = 'frail'/small body

    Intelligent = Big head

    Ability to fly at extreme speeds

    ect.

    I mean, it makes sense that 'the future humans' would come back to study ourselves.

    But I just realized I'm talking about aliens more than UFOs



    There was a program on the discovery channel about a scientist who claims he built a 'UFO' for Germany (I think it was Germany) YEARS ago. (Like 50 odd years ago)

    Using magnets wrapped in wire (I'm no scientist but it was something quite simple) He plugged it in and flicked the switch...and (on tv) it lifted off the table. He said the glowing of UFOs were the heat generated from the magnets getting hot.

    He even had pictures of the original full size prototype.



    It made me laugh when, people said that the ministry of defense 'could/would' release all information on UFOs after 40 years.

    I haven't heard anything yet...:rolleyes:LOL


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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Kerr
      I am sure I have relatives who are not from this planet. Maybe we are the dumping place for those who do not fit in elsewhere.
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      • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
        I forgot about this; but I think the french government basically outed itself last year and said "Yeah, Ufos are real. No idea WTF they are. They float around and blahblahblah"


        Well, they didnt put it like that, but you get the idea.


        Boing Boing Article on the French gov and UFO's.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
          Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

          I forgot about this; but I think the french government basically outed itself last year and said "Yeah, Ufos are real. No idea WTF they are. They float around and blahblahblah"


          Well, they didnt put it like that, but you get the idea.


          Boing Boing Article on the French gov and UFO's.
          Dude, you are walking a thin line. When they come down, and they will, you may just find your name on thier short list.

          I hope you don't value your face too much.
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          • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
            Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

            Dude, you are walking a thin line. When they come down, and they will, you may just find your name on thier short list.

            I hope you don't value your face too much.
            Nah, I've got a plan. I'm going to write a virus in windows 95 and use it to destroy their mothership.

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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
              Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

              Nah, I've got a plan. I'm going to write a virus in windows 95 and use it to destroy their mothership.

              <In my best Sam Kinison voice>
              Good answer.... good answer....
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        • Profile picture of the author bravo75
          The Belgium goverment were the first nation to officially admit to having their security breached by UFO's


          Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

          I forgot about this; but I think the french government basically outed itself last year and said "Yeah, Ufos are real. No idea WTF they are. They float around and blahblahblah"


          Well, they didnt put it like that, but you get the idea.


          Boing Boing Article on the French gov and UFO's.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            There is a thing called the "nuclear decision threshold," which is good enough reason to believe that any aliens that might exist would take one look at us and leave. After all, what kind of species would point weapons at their own world?

            That's leaving aside the whole issue of the energy and time involved in getting here from a nearby solar system, much less another part of this or another galaxy.

            I do not believe that aliens have ever visited this planet. That said, I'd bet every quatloo I've got that there are other intelligent life forms out there. Thousands of species of them, at a bare minimum.

            We have only developed the ability to get a clear look at a tiny part of our own small stellar neighborhood, and we've spotted a number of places that could potentially support/develop Earth-like life. Multiply that by what we can't see yet, and it's as near to certain as it could possibly be without direct knowledge. And that ignores the probability of other forms of life that we wouldn't easily recognize.


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  • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
    If I was a space alien I would stay the *hell* away from this planet.

    I'd be terrified; if one of our ships crashed and the humans reverse engineered it they'd be conquering the galaxy in ten or twenty years.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I am not trying to 'act smart' or anything (I can't act that well!) but, humans don't kill for no reason. They kill for satisfaction/pleasure/fear/defense ect. like certain animals do.
      I believe I said no APPARENT reason. I don't know of any animals that kill for satisfaction or pleasure - do you? They kill in self-defense, defense of their young or for food.

      Humans kill for stupid reasons and I'm not just talking about sociopaths.

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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        I believe I said no APPARENT reason. I don't know of any animals that kill for satisfaction or pleasure - do you? They kill in self-defense, defense of their young or for food.

        Humans kill for stupid reasons and I'm not just talking about sociopaths.

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        Yes, according to some biologists, it is believed that there is at least one other animal that kills for "fun" (for lack of a better word").

        Any guesses?

        (And if you saw the other thread where this was mentioned, gives others a chance to guess)

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        • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          Yes, according to some biologists, it is believed that there is at least one other animal that kills for "fun" (for lack of a better word").

          Any guesses?

          (And if you saw the other thread where this was mentioned, gives others a chance to guess)

          ~Michael
          I'm not sure what thread you are referencing but cats are very well known for taking sadistic pleasure in the kill. Both big and small. A leopard will kill you just because you're alive and a house cat will delight in tormenting a cornered mouse. I love cats but have no doubt about their inner nature.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by Lawrh View Post

            I'm not sure what thread you are referencing but cats are very well known for taking sadistic pleasure in the kill. Both big and small. A leopard will kill you just because you're alive and a house cat will delight in tormenting a cornered mouse. I love cats but have no doubt about their inner nature.
            Good guesses, but not quite what I had in mind. Hint: These animals are often considered to be of higher intelligence.

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            • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
              Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

              Good guesses, but not quite what I had in mind. Hint: These animals are often considered to be of higher intelligence.

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              There's been some nasty stories about dolphins lately, is that what you had in mind? Some ape species such as chimps and baboons can be pretty violent, but I think I will go with the dolphins this time.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andie
            Originally Posted by Lawrh View Post

            I'm not sure what thread you are referencing but cats are very well known for taking sadistic pleasure in the kill. Both big and small. A leopard will kill you just because you're alive and a house cat will delight in tormenting a cornered mouse. I love cats but have no doubt about their inner nature.
            Ouch, that hurt~!
            Yes, they do 'seem' to enjoy the chase; but oddly enough they do often have reasons behind it; even if it is no more than to give a 'gift' to their 'master'.
            (Cats are thoughtful that way)
            As well...because you are 'alive'...they view you as a very real threat to them (rightfully so, I expect) so their 'inner nature' isn't really that bad

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    I've lived with a blonde for 15+ years....so I can say YES, positively, there ARE aliens among us.
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    How do we reach that alien target market, and what do they want to buy?
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      How do we reach that alien target market, and what do they want to buy?
      I'm thinking they would be ripe for all kinds of stuff.

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    Look, when the aliens get here... don't talk to them. Don't even look at them. They will melt your damn face off!
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      Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

      Look, when the aliens get here... don't talk to them. Don't even look at them. They will melt your damn face off!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

      Look, when the aliens get here... don't talk to them. Don't even look at them. They will melt your damn face off!
      WAIT!

      Does that mean Keith Richards has seen an alien!?!



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    Yes, I was referring to dolphins.
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      IF we weren't clouded by mystery over this topic, purposefully, by the governments we wouldn't get so confused about it all. We would have enough concrete information to make our own decisions etc but because we are not given all the info we can't join all the dots.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        IF we weren't clouded by mystery over this topic, purposefully, by the governments we wouldn't get so confused about it all. We would have enough concrete information to make our own decisions etc but because we are not given all the info we can't join all the dots.
        Sorry, but I'm not confused by the issue at all. But I know a lot of people are.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          Sorry, but I'm not confused by the issue at all. But I know a lot of people are.

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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

            Michael....it was only a television show...
            Ohhhhh!!! THAT explains it! Thanks, Dave.



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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I believe in aliens.

    I also believe that if a entity had the intelligence to have the technology to find us and then make it here, they would probably be smart enough to monitor us before they landed, and would see that we kill each other off over beliefs or color of skin. And if they are presumably different than we are, why would they want to just plop down in the middle of a big city and say 'hi we're the new neighbors!'
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  • Profile picture of the author J Daniel
    I'm absolutely positive you saw a UFO. But following the spirit of the question, all I have to say is "no."
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmymc
      Given all the earlier reports of crashed ships and alien bodies strewn about... you would think they could come up with a simple crash avoidance system... or at the very least an ejection seat.

      Unless of course, we are living in one of those clear plastic paper weights with the snow that floats down when you shake it. I think that's where I am now and someone forgot and put me and my universe in the deep freeze.

      Rods intrigue me more than anything... right now.
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    This is some mad sh.t, check it out!

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    I used to think "I believe" but since the day I saw a strange object fly from left to right, stop mid air, and then flash up into the atmosphere in a split of a second... i can tell you:

    I am a believer.

    Don't know if it was man made or alien BUT that damn thing flew like nothing I know of in this world.
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    • Profile picture of the author ABing
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      I used to think "I believe" but since the day I saw a strange object fly from left to right, stop mid air, and then flash up into the atmosphere in a split of a second... i can tell you:

      I am a believer.

      Don't know if it was man made or alien BUT that damn thing flew like nothing I know of in this world.

      saw something real similar once myself, in Pensacola...a couple of military Blackhawks saw it as well...(i was in the navy at the time)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Kerr
    There are definitely aliens amongst us.

    Just look at some of the posts on this forum.
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