How do you measure sizes in girls jeans?

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I am looking to buy my girlfriend some jeans, but the jeans i am looking at are measured in a different scale. Usually she wears a 7-9 depending on the jean style. These jeans are from 22-29. How can i find the correct size of jeans without having her try them on. And how are girls jeans measured? I am looking at some RVCA jeans if that helps at all... Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author Jim Gillum
    Different countries use different size systems......

    Usually in a good store the clerks know the conversions......

    Or pick out a customer that looks like the same size....have done that before and it works well...
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Awwww, man, I thought there was a punch line coming......its a creaking, WIDE-OPEN door begging somebody to step right in.

      Damn...,
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        Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

        Awwww, man, I thought there was a punch line coming......its a creaking, WIDE-OPEN door begging somebody to step right in.

        Damn...,
        LOL me too..
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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    I would vote for a jeans gift card..........be safe...and good luck <g>
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      I would vote for a jeans gift card..........be safe...and good luck
      Yes, but how do you admire someone wearing a gift card.

      Whoops....guess I answered my own question!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Gillum
    After 3 wives and a few lady friends....warning........

    A gift card does not show enough "thought"....women do not like them from "that special guy".....

    Been there done that....ouch!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Russ Emrick
      My measurement method: on or off.

      Clothing gifts for woman - are you insane? It's not just the size, it's the fit, but butt look the endless critique of details.

      Honey, does this make my butt look fat? Answer anything:

      Oh, so my other clothes make my butt look fat?

      Jewelry. Perfume. Dinner. Spa treatments. Gadgets and accessories she's been hinting at (my wife is a Wii and MP3 junkie). Clothes and appliances I leave to her.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shoaib
      Originally Posted by Jim Gillum View Post

      After 3 wives and a few lady friends....warning........

      A gift card does not show enough "thought"....women do not like them from "that special guy".....

      Been there done that....ouch!!
      It's all about PRESENTATION my friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by Jim Gillum View Post

      After 3 wives and a few lady friends....warning........
      !!
      a slow learner, but have a look at the op a name followed by the id number of a forum spamer / poster just for the Sig link

      1 post says it all to many give away signs, and i thought newbies had to wait before adding a Sig ? maybe 50 posts before a Sig and pm rights are in play would stop this crap.

      And lets not forget ? i need to size jeans ? I know i will open an account on a IM site, that should work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jim Gillum
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        a slow learner, but have a look at the op a name followed by the id number of a forum spamer / poster just for the Sig link

        1 post says it all to many give away signs, and i thought newbies had to wait before adding a Sig ? maybe 50 posts before a Sig and pm rights are in play would stop this crap.

        And lets not forget ? i need to size jeans ? I know i will open an account on a IM site, that should work.
        I resent your implication......you do not know me nor do I know you......I came to this forum to learn and help when I can.....Also to have some fun....

        Maybe my 50 years in marketing and 66 years in life can help someone else....maybe just a little...
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          Originally Posted by Jim Gillum View Post


          Maybe my 50 years in marketing and 66 years in life can help someone else....maybe just a little...


          Your site is new and barely have any post on them and your Learn Marketing site is not even functional yet.

          Why do you have a sig for a site that does not seem quite ready?

          Not criticizing your site, but don't see enough stuff compelling enough to get a visitor stuck and returning to your site.

          The 13th Warrior
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          • Profile picture of the author Jim Gillum
            Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

            Your site is new and barely have any post on them and your Learn Marketing site is not even functional yet.

            Why do you have a sig for a site that does not seem quite ready?

            Not criticizing your site, but don't see enough stuff compelling enough to get a visitor stuck and returning to your site.

            The 13th Warrior
            Just slowly working on the blog (some experimenting)....I am retired (mostly) and stay busy with some of the things I couldn't get to a few years ago.....although I feel that I have posted some decent ideas on the blog.....I am really very softsell....
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        • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
          Originally Posted by Jim Gillum View Post

          I resent your implication......you do not know me nor do I know you......I came to this forum to learn and help when I can.....Also to have some fun....

          Maybe my 50 years in marketing and 66 years in life can help someone else....maybe just a little...
          grab yourself a chill pill, it was in fun and went with the rest of what i wrote as a lead to slow learner / ie everybody posting in a spammers thread. cool down and have some of that fun you speak of
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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    No, gift card is one size fits all and (in my experience) preferred over clothing that is too tight <gee he is telling me i'm too big or it is his wish list more than my "style"> or- they are too big and <omg-did he think these would FIT me???>.
    Of course, you could get incredibly lucky and they are perfect. :-)
    If she has a fav. pair and you have access, you could 'duplicate' brand/size.

    Disclaimer: I'm rather jaded thanks to an ex-sociopath ...umm..i mean, husband...


    really comes down to how well you know needed info, and finding a like-shaped customer willing to test for you might be best bet
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, sizes are ALWAYS different! From what I understand, EVEN girls sizes in the US are just DUMB! At least MALE sizes have SOME bearing in reason. For male's pants, for example, you have waist and length sizes. A simple measurement can get you CLOSE to the size. Unfortunately, NOBODY grows in an IDENTICAL manner, so pants may be based on a bunch of different templates, so the sizes can't be the SOLE measurement.

    Apparently, female clothing is based on a size system that must be related to another. So it is like weight loss commercials, ad a man might say "I went from a size 44 to a size 40", and you know they lost approximately 4" on the waist. A WOMAN might say "I went from a size 2 to a size 0". WHAT THE!?!?!?

    BTW Women often want things to appear slimmer, and may have different figures, so I imagine she may want to try them on. Your best bet is to get something CLOSE. Of course, I couldn't even APPROXIMATE women's sizes, and don't know where YOU are, so I wouldn't try.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sevenhills
    Just go to a shop and ask some girls if you can feel :-P

    Might work well with bra's as well
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      If you'd like a women's point of view...

      Make an evening of it, tell her you'd like to take her shopping, once you're at destination, tell her you'd like to buy her a new pair of jeans, follow her to her favorite stores, as she tries on jeans, sit outside the dressing room very patiently, having her model them for you, compliment her on every pair, have her choose the ones she likes best, then purchase them!

      Trust me, women know what they believe they look best in, she won't buy a pair she doesn't like!

      Then take her to dinner, plan the rest, I think you can handle that part!

      Warning: While shopping, do not whine, roll eyes, sigh, or rush in any way!

      Look like you are enjoying it every bit as much as she is and don't pause even for a second at any "manstuff" stores!

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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        If you'd like a women's point of view...

        Make an evening of it, tell her you'd like to take her shopping, once you're at destination, tell her you'd like to buy her a new pair of jeans, follow her to her favorite stores, as she tries on jeans, sit outside the dressing room very patiently, having her model them for you, compliment her on every pair, have her choose the ones she likes best, then purchase them!

        Trust me, women know what they believe they look best in, she won't buy a pair she doesn't like!

        Then take her to dinner, plan the rest, I think you can handle that part!

        Warning: While shopping, do not whine, roll eyes, sigh, or rush in any way!

        Look like you are enjoying it every bit as much as she is and don't pause even for a second at any "manstuff" stores!

        MissTerraK
        OK...you can have the thread locked now. There's your answer...period.
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


        If you'd like a women's point of view...

        Make an evening of it, tell her you'd like to take her shopping, once you're at destination, tell her you'd like to buy her a new pair of jeans, follow her to her favorite stores, as she tries on jeans, sit outside the dressing room very patiently, having her model them for you, compliment her on every pair, have her choose the ones she likes best, then purchase them!

        Trust me, women know what they believe they look best in, she won't buy a pair she doesn't like!

        Then take her to dinner, plan the rest, I think you can handle that part!

        Warning: While shopping, do not whine, roll eyes, sigh, or rush in any way!

        Look like you are enjoying it every bit as much as she is and don't pause even for a second at any "manstuff" stores!

        MissTerraK



        Holy cow, why don't he also put on shades of lipstick, see if they got dresses in MAN SIZES and make it a TOTAL girls night out.......MEEEE-YOW


        ".....having her model them for you, compliment her on every pair??? So lying is the ingredient for a good marriage/relationship? Fear is ok?

        ".......women know what they believe they look best in..? Then why model them for him or ask him how does she look?

        Any bomb defusers in the house, we have code red, stat.

        Wow, even DOGS aren't on that tight a leash, where's PITA when ya need'em?

        "Don't pause even FOR A SECOND at any "manstuff" stores????? Whaat??

        A Fascist government is not ok, but a Fascist relationship is?

        Would'nt want to remind him that he should'nt have his "pair" under her lock and key, jesus, that is NOT the definition of compromise...., talk about control freak...

        Um, does "mommy" also pick out his underwear and dress'em for work? Sheeesssh.

        Does "mommy" ban him from talking to his friends or has a curfew?

        ...ALERT!ALERT!ALERT!

        StepFord wife is coming, StepFord wife is coming, the BodySnatchers pods have hatched, yikes, and holy moley, man...!

        May God have mercy on dudes sanity, man, if he takes this advice, amen and help him Father.

        The 13th Warrior
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          @ The 13th Warrior,

          OK, now you either are single and never really loved a woman, I mean it's one stinking day...

          Or, you were married once, and because you obviously don't know how to treat a lady, it went sour, you're now divorced and joined the He-man woman haters club...

          Or, you umm, swing the "other way"!

          which is it? Oh, never mind, found the answer in your first line:

          why don't he also put on shades of lipstick, see if they got dresses in MAN SIZES and make it a TOTAL girls night out......

          Transvestite!:p

          MissTerraK
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            @ The 13th Warrior,

            OK, now you either are single and never really loved a woman, I mean it's one stinking day...

            Or, you were married once, and because you obviously don't know how to treat a lady, it went sour, you're now divorced and joined the He-man woman haters club...

            Or, you umm, swing the "other way"!

            which is it? Oh, never mind, found the answer in your first line:

            why don't he also put on shades of lipstick, see if they got dresses in MAN SIZES and make it a TOTAL girls night out......

            Transvestite!:p

            MissTerraK
            I will READILY admit that I am a little different from a lot of guys. I am not into sports, for example. I HATE cussing. STILL, my feelings about shopping seem to be EXACTLY like other males. and YEP, I am very much straight.

            BELIEVE ME, it is like TORTURE!!!!! And women are often NOT actually looking for the TRUTH. They don't seem to understand that males and females ARE different. It is NOT society or upbringing, you can't blame the "male society" for THIS.

            So why bring the guy along if you don't REALLY want his opinion, and he dislikes it so? Maybe YOU should judge how much YOU love the man.

            You should be ECSTATIC if a man you like is readily willing to come along. Sometimes they might as well be thrown in jail for a week.

            EVEN after "Men are from mars, women are from venus" many women JUST DON'T GET IT! I once read a book about how women think, written by a woman. IT was candid, and SHE seemed to get it.

            Why is it so many women figure it is the males job to learn THEIR language, so to speak, and don't acknowledge that any difference even really exists.

            Steve
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              I will READILY admit that I am a little different from a lot of guys. I am not into sports, for example. I HATE cussing. STILL, my feelings about shopping seem to be EXACTLY like other males. and YEP, I am very much straight.

              BELIEVE ME, it is like TORTURE!!!!! And women are often NOT actually looking for the TRUTH. They don't seem to understand that males and females ARE different. It is NOT society or upbringing, you can't blame the "male society" for THIS.

              So why bring the guy along if you don't REALLY want his opinion, and he dislikes it so? Maybe YOU should judge how much YOU love the man.

              You should be ECSTATIC if a man you like is readily willing to come along. Sometimes they might as well be thrown in jail for a week.

              EVEN after "Men are from mars, women are from venus" many women JUST DON'T GET IT! I once read a book about how women think, written by a woman. IT was candid, and SHE seemed to get it.

              Why is it so many women figure it is the males job to learn THEIR language, so to speak, and don't acknowledge that any difference even really exists.

              Steve
              I agree 100%! Men and women do think differently, because that was the Master Plan! Opposites attract! Two come together to make one which means the opposite end spectrums become balanced and make a good "whole".

              I admire a man who is not all Macho 100% and does what he enjoys even if it goes against the majority! We are all Uniquely made! Life would be pretty boring if all men and all women walked, talked, thought and did the same way and things.

              Also, I agree with you that every relationship takes both partners giving and taking, it should not be all the man's way, or all the woman's way...
              That is why compromise is a very potent word!

              Thanks for your reply Steve! I like a man who is real!

              Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Watch out, if you get jeans too small she's gonna think that's a "you're too fat" hint and kick your butt.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I'd say the last 2 DO make the thread. MissTerraK SHOULD look at that "women shouldn't go shopping with men" thread though!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      I'd say the last 2 DO make the thread. MissTerraK SHOULD look at that "women shouldn't go shopping with men" thread though!
      Thanks Seasoned, I'm on my way there now!

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  • Profile picture of the author Shoaib
    MissTerraK: I know you don't know me, but I will take you shopping for jeans (or anything else) anytime, on YOUR terms.

    @Everyone else: Remember guys, it's all about providing original, QUALITY content & ideas in your relationship. If your girl likes what you do for her, then she will tell her "friends", and they will "link" to you and vouche for you, and your PR will go up!

    This will help you get organic girls, which we all know are the highest quality and provide the best conversion rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


      OK, now you either are single and never really loved a woman, I mean it's one stinking day...
      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


      Or, you umm, swing the "other way"!

      which is it? Oh, never mind, found the answer in your first line:

      why don't he also put on shades of lipstick, see if they got dresses in MAN SIZES and make it a TOTAL girls night out......

      Transvestite!

      Hey, it was in the context of shopping in general, and even still, your "suggestions" were condenscending and feministically militant, '.....don't whine, or DARE look at mens stuff for one second..,"...like you married and are training a child.

      Transvestite???

      Nah, but something I expect a fake church lady to say, absolutely not surprised.

      But with those "RULES" you so quickly snapped out, "YOU" may have a rude awakening as to what you married in the future, if dude tolerates that passive aggressive type behavior from you, Mizz.StepFord wife.

      Better check to see if he is related to Ed Wood, whipcracker.

      Go rent that movie, "The StepFord Wives", you are PERFECT casting if there is yet another future remake.

      You're no Dear Abby, and if dude follow those "DICTATES" and rules you laid down, he just might try out being a Transvestite, what the hell, he's already shopping for ladies panties, one step at a time.

      Say, let's say you LOVE, with a passion, a peanut butter, sardine, mustard and limburger cheese sandwich....just because you LOVE it, does that mean he HAS to "share" in what YOU love to PROVE his love, even if he is either allergic to such food or hurls everytime he smells it, is that your definition of love?

      I think you need to go back to the factory for some maintenance and tune-up on those attitudes of yours, 2nd in line to Toyota's "stuck" accelerator pedal.

      The 13th Warrior
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

        Hey, it was in the context of shopping in general, and even still, your "suggestions" were condenscending and feministically militant, '.....don't whine, or DARE look at mens stuff for one second..,"...like you married and are training a child.

        Transvestite???

        Nah, but something I expect a fake church lady to say, absolutely not surprised.

        But with those "RULES" you so quickly snapped out, "YOU" may have a rude awakening as to what you married in the future, if dude tolerates that passive aggressive type behavior from you, Mizz.StepFord wife.

        Better check to see if he is related to Ed Wood, whipcracker.

        Go rent that movie, "The StepFord Wives", you are PERFECT casting if there is yet another future remake.

        You're no Dear Abby, and if dude follow those "DICTATES" and rules you laid down, he just might try out being a Transvestite, what the hell, he's already shopping for ladies panties, one step at a time.

        Say, let's say you LOVE, with a passion, a peanut butter, sardine, mustard and limburger cheese sandwich....just because you LOVE it, does that mean he HAS to "share" in what YOU love to PROVE his love, even if he is either allergic to such food or hurls everytime he smells it, is that your definition of love?

        I think you need to go back to the factory for some maintenance and tune-up on those attitudes of yours, 2nd in line to Toyota's "stuck" accelerator pedal.

        The 13th Warrior
        You know, you are only insulting my husband, he proposed, he has decided to stay with me for 29 years, he is a macho man, thinks he's quite the barney bad a** too. Rip away on him, he's not an Imer to reply back, he's a quality engineer for Roush Racing.

        Have you seen the Wizard of Oz? Do you know of the cowardly lion? He reminds me a lot of you!

        As to your other comments, obviously I am more mature than you, and won't even dignify them with an answer!

        Now, why don't you go and find someone your own size to pick on, like ToTo!

        To your success!
        MissTerraK
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        • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
          You guys are going through a lot of trouble over a thread trolled to get their sig exposed.

          Now kiss and make up like good Warriors.

          It's unbecoming to fight on a Sunday.

          Or did you guys miss that sermon...

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

            You guys are going through a lot of trouble over a thread trolled to get their sig exposed.

            Now kiss and make up like good Warriors.

            It's unbecoming to fight on a Sunday.

            Or did you guys miss that sermon...

            KJ
            Thanks KJ! But I'll pass, I only kiss one man and that's the idiot that has stayed with me for 29 years!

            And nope, I've heard that sermon loud and clear for years!

            MissTerraK:p
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    13th you don't know what a Stepford wife is Terra is definitely not a robot, programmed, submissive, and with no needs or wants, just obeys what they are programmed to do. You did see the movie didn't you? The original was good, the remake sucked.

    But in all fairness there should also be Stepford husbands I like that idea It would be fun to go shopping with a Stepford husband, he can carry all the bags and shop for hours telling the wife how wonderful she looked in everything hahaha And they'd do all the housework and chores at home. Ohhh someone should make a Stepford Husbands movie, that would be a good one.

    And don't make fun of militant feminists, Terra belongs to a secret society and you get on their bad side, they will torture you while you sleep. Kay King gives the mercenaries the orders so don't get on her bad side either
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post


      13th you don't know what a Stepford wife is
      You're probably right.

      Getting StepFord wife and BodySnatchers or something confused.

      Probably some Alfred Hitchcock or Twilight Zone episode I'm thinking of, or something like that.

      The 13th Warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post


      But in all fairness there should also be Stepford husbands I like that idea It would be fun to go shopping with a Stepford husband, he can carry all the bags and shop for hours telling the wife how wonderful she looked in everything hahaha And they'd do all the housework and chores at home.
      Yeah, but "the ladies" in the major majority of times slowly lose respect for guys like that.

      It would be like she married her brother.......chicks don't get hot for their brother.

      Not saying a guy should never, ever do that stuff, but some of that stuff should be in is very small doses and in a balanced schedule, like ingesting copper for supplementation.

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post

      But in all fairness there should also be Stepford husbands I like that idea It would be fun to go shopping with a Stepford husband, he can carry all the bags and shop for hours telling the wife how wonderful she looked in everything hahaha And they'd do all the housework and chores at home. Ohhh someone should make a Stepford Husbands movie, that would be a good one.
      But THEN, society would be like the GOOD guys in that firefly episode. They wanted to make a utopia, free of all strife. For MOST, it WORKED! And they didn't even go to work! Of course, the REST became like killer zombies!

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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


        Of course, the REST became like killer zombies!

        They probably did'nt get their FDA recommended daily requirement of Football and other "dude" stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Have you seen that show Bridezillas? You would love it hahaha
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post


      Have you seen that show Bridezillas? You would love it hahaha
      Ok, ok, no more movies....I've already got a list of movies I am supposed to see and just simply have not got around to seeing them, but thanks for the recommendation.....

      .....awww, hell, now I gotta go to YouTube to see what's up with this.

      The 13th Warrior
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      • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
        Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

        Ok, ok, no more movies....I've already got a list of movies I am supposed to see and just simply have not got around to seeing them, but thanks for the recommendation.....

        .....awww, hell, now I gotta go to YouTube to see what's up with this.

        The 13th Warrior
        It's not a movie it's one of those "reality" shows. Oh I just wish I could upload the one with Karen, she was just evil the way she screamed and insulted everyone over nothing and everyone was her slave. And you had to wonder why the fiancee was marrying someone so evil but he's the one who proposed. I don't think any of em are on youtube. You are so deprived you don't know what you've missed It will make every other female you know seem a million times better hahaha
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post


          I don't think any of em are on youtube. You are so deprived you don't know what you've missed It will make every other female you know seem a million times better hahaha
          Just watched part of the Marsha and Archie episode, holy cow, what a train wreck.

          Bridezilla shows why its over before it even starts.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well - not all women are straight out of 1950's sitcoms.
    My waist is 23, my hips 33. I need a 34 inch inseam. Buy me a pair of army kahkis as long as you pay attention to those measurements they won't fall down when I walk - if they look great I'll stick some stelletos on and we can go to dinner - if they look like crap, you can take me to that canyon river you wanted to fish. I'm going rock hunting - be back by early dusk to start the fire..catch an extra fish for the dog. Thanks much sweetie. See ya when the sun's waning.

    Jeesh.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I need a 34 inch inseam.
      Good Lord, 34 inches :confused:

      How far up are you measuring?

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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


        obviously I am more mature than you
        Mature...?!? Ok then....., fine..,


        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


        Or, you umm, swing the "other way"!

        which is it? Oh, never mind, found the answer in your first line:

        why don't he also put on shades of lipstick, see if they got dresses in MAN SIZES and make it a TOTAL girls night out......

        Transvestite!:p

        MissTerraK
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Good Lord, 34 inches :confused:

        How far up are you measuring?

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        Holy crap KJ...
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post


        Good Lord, 34 inches :confused:

        How far up are you measuring?

        KJ
        Shocked at 34 inch hips as too big???

        You like a "famine" type frame?

        Needs a few more corn feed, meat and potatoes for my taste.

        Different strokes for different folks.
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        • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
          Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

          Shocked at 34 inch hips as too big???
          A 34" inseam is what Sal's talking about.

          I like my girls with their hips on the outside.

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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by The 13th Warrior View Post

          Shocked at 34 inch hips as too big???

          You like a "famine" type frame?

          Needs a few more corn feed, meat and potatoes for my taste.

          Different strokes for different folks.
          34" inseam! Considering I am considered by some to be tall, and my pants are only 32", a 34" INSEAM would make her TALL, like maybe 6'8"!!!!! Of course, she probably isn't short, and she DID say she was accounting for stilletos, so I can understand.

          Wikipedia says they can be up to 10". THAT would make her TRUE inseam like 24, which would make her maybe 5'10". That would be taller than the average woman, but certainly not overly so. All approximations, in case you are wondering.

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          • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            34" inseam! Considering I am considered by some to be tall, and my pants are only 32", a 34" INSEAM would make her TALL, like maybe 6'8"!!!!!
            Steve, that's what caught my eye...I'm 6'6" and I have a 34" inseam (I have short legs/long torso) so naturally seeing a woman say she needs a 34" inseam got me wondering.

            I'm also a leg man...:p

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Good Lord, 34 inches :confused:

        How far up are you measuring?

        KJ
        Uh...Joe? I'm assuming they'll look terrific and am accounting for stilettos. If that doesn't go - it's easier to hem than to lengthen. LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      Buy me a pair of army kahkis as long as you pay attention to those measurements they won't fall down when I walk - if they look great I'll stick some stelletos on and we can go to dinner - if they look like crap, you can take me to that canyon river you wanted to fish. I'm going rock hunting - be back by early dusk to start the fire..catch an extra fish for the dog. Thanks much sweetie. See ya when the sun's waning.

      Jeesh.
      Now that is down home, simple and uncomplicated.

      Should buy some more farmland to grow some more like that.

      The 13th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    apparently women's waist/hip/inseam sizes are top secret. They have a cryptic system for labeling their sizes because god forbid someone tell a woman she's fat. The only way you can understand the measuring system is A: Be female, or B: have a super secret decoder ring...that can only be gotten if you are a female.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      apparently women's waist/hip/inseam sizes are top secret. They have a cryptic system for labeling their sizes because god forbid someone tell a woman she's fat. The only way you can understand the measuring system is A: Be female, or B: have a super secret decoder ring...that can only be gotten if you are a female.
      You are a genius, WF BFF, you are correct on both counts!:p

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  • Profile picture of the author cleanoutguru
    Ask someone from the store to help you with the size conversions. You better buy the correct size of jeans..
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    You don't buy women clothes, its much easier to just go buy them a pear of ear rings or a necklace, less hassle.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    I agree with that guy ^^^^^
    You just don't buy women (or other ppl period) clothes. Think most with common sense would know that esp. a 66 yr old. If you want her to have clothes give her a credit card and let her pick them out. Everyone has a different style and tastes, everyone should buy their own clothes and the only other ppl you should clothes shop for is kids.

    Just like when my grandmother would get me clothes for my birthday- they were NEVER worn. I just wondered where she got them. Getting a teenager a big teddy bear sweat shirt?? Never wore it. Think she finally figured out clothes was not a good gift idea. Different tastes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post

      Just like when my grandmother would get me clothes for my birthday- they were NEVER worn. I just wondered where she got them. Getting a teenager a big teddy bear sweat shirt?? Never wore it. Think she finally figured out clothes was not a good gift idea.
      Valerie, I'm guessing that must have really annoyed you...:p

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I"m pretty sure its illegal to buy women clothes without them being there to pick it out.

    just give her money, its always the right size, always the right color.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      just give her money, its always the right size, always the right color.
      WANT TO BET!?!?!?

      OH, you mean the MONEY!? MAYBE you're right THERE.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      I"m pretty sure its illegal to buy women clothes without them being there to pick it out.
      Now you are really showing your genius status!

      You are on a roll Baby!

      MissTerraK
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  • Profile picture of the author falcons
    i normally fit them at the store bec. even i know my size what happen is that if i buy to another store it is a different size so ireally need to fit them
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonCase24
    It's simple, get a tape measure then check your girl's waistline, etc. Just make up a reason why you need these stuffs. If you can't think of any, then bring her to the store then let her fit that item. Usually, I'm doing that strategy. It's not a surprise anymore? Yes, it's not, but at least I'm sure, no waste of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay Guys -- You need to realize something........

    Women are not built the same as men - 6'6" with an inseam of 31"? I am a full head shorter than you - 5'6" and my inseam is 31" - that's to the floor not to my ankle because I wear my pants long - put 4" stilletos under a pair of pants and you are going to want a longer inseam unless you are buying a shorter pant style such as skin tight to the ankle, in which case you want the inseam hitting the bottom of the ankle and not the floor.

    Many men are built like monkeys and have longer torsos and shorter legs. Never forget when shopping for women's clothes......we have evolved and have a longer inseam ratio than men do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      6'6" with an inseam of 31"?
      You mean 34" for the inseam.

      If it were 31 inches I'd be a tripod. :p

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        You mean 34" for the inseam.

        If it were 31 inches I'd be a tripod. :p

        KJ

        Ah - I'm glad I was mistaken there, Bill -- I just figured that was why we only got the waist up view, LOL. My ex was 6'2" and there was only a few inch hip height difference between us and his legs were well proportioned for a male.
        That thick build might be a good thing on a guy, but I'm thinking that a woman would look pretty funny with the same leg length ratio that men have.

        But the point is that the inseam is something that men mess up on when they shop. The pants I was bought without trying first were always a tad too short. Not a problem - just keep the receipt and take em back if they don't fit........then all she has to gripe about is what a cheapskate you are. LMAO.
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post


        You mean 34" for the inseam.

        Holy Moley, someone should rename this thread " Martha Stewarts Seamstress Tips and Suggestions", I'm sure tailors and seamstresses find this engaging, CAPTIVATING and "hot".

        Please o' please somebody, someone, make a blog and a wso on this juicy subject.

        Questions like, "should I get a Singer plastic measuring tape with the metal ends or the Fiberglass material with the metric scale for best accuracy?"

        Yikes
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay Guys -- You need to realize something........

      Women are not built the same as men - 6'6" with an inseam of 31"? I am a full head shorter than you - 5'6" and my inseam is 31" - that's to the floor not to my ankle because I wear my pants long - put 4" stilletos under a pair of pants and you are going to want a longer inseam unless you are buying a shorter pant style such as skin tight to the ankle, in which case you want the inseam hitting the bottom of the ankle and not the floor.

      Many men are built like monkeys and have longer torsos and shorter legs. Never forget when shopping for women's clothes......we have evolved and have a longer inseam ratio than men do.
      Yeah, I think we ALL realize that women are built differently then men. That is one reason I just ESTIMATED. My measurements were based on inaccurate estimates based on ME. Still, you say your inseam was to the floor. MY estimate is based on a couple inches higher, so my estimate is automatically too short. I said I had a length of 32". If I followed YOUR sense of fashion, it would be 34". I tried to determine my inseam(Using 8.5X11 paper as a guideline), and it is approximately the same as my pants length! I guess it is. That means my inseam is 3" larger than yours, and I am about 7" taller. BTW The person that said "6'6" with an inseam of 31" PROBABLY has shoes similar to MINE SO, for purposes of comparison, he is "6'6" with an inseam of 33"! So I guess HE has longer legs than you ALSO! Of course, we ARE taller, so that is kind of expected.

      But YEAH, women have bigger hips, and a smaller waist, etc... so pants either have to be more expandable, or made to fit the gender. But HEY, even different size MEN have different relative dimensions.

      And you don't have to insult us by saying we are built like monkeys. HEY, YOU'RE a member of the great ape family ALSO! 8-) REALLY, LOOK IT UP!

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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


        And you don't have to insult us by saying we are built like monkeys. HEY, YOU'RE a member of the great ape family ALSO! 8-) REALLY, LOOK IT UP!
        Ha-Ha, clothes fitting tips for ex-monkeys, ex-apes, post-neanderthal's , "....these tips and more, next time , on the Oprah Winfrey show...,"
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay Guys -- You need to realize something........

      Women are not built the same as men - 6'6" with an inseam of 31"? I am a full head shorter than you - 5'6" and my inseam is 31" - that's to the floor not to my ankle because I wear my pants long - put 4" stilletos under a pair of pants and you are going to want a longer inseam unless you are buying a shorter pant style such as skin tight to the ankle, in which case you want the inseam hitting the bottom of the ankle and not the floor.

      Many men are built like monkeys and have longer torsos and shorter legs. Never forget when shopping for women's clothes......we have evolved and have a longer inseam ratio than men do.
      yeah, but that has nothing to do with the cryptic measuring system women use for their waistline.


      Ladies if you have a 40" waist, its a 40" waist..get over it. its not a 2, or an 8 or whatever, its 40 fricken inches
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

        yeah, but that has nothing to do with the cryptic measuring system women use for their waistline.


        Ladies if you have a 40" waist, its a 40" waist..get over it. its not a 2, or an 8 or whatever, its 40 fricken inches
        Whoa Michael!

        Down boy...we women didn't design the measuring system, we have to use it because it was in place when we were born, and in actuality, I have no idea who came up with it. It could have been a man!:p

        There are and always have been men clothes designers and taylors!

        You are right though, when measuring your waist, the number you get is what it is!

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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post


        yeah, but that has nothing to do with the cryptic measuring system women use for their waistline.


        Ladies if you have a 40" waist, its a 40" waist..get over it. its not a 2, or an 8 or whatever, its 40 fricken inches
        LOL.

        I'll bet a bundle at 1-20 odds that a fella did'nt invent that system.

        I guess saying a size 8 rather than 40" girth is like saying flatulence instead of fart.

        Or Lavatory instead of Toilet.

        Or Grey Poupon instead of mustard.

        "Do you have any Grey Poupon?"

        "....citizens of such noble breeding address things properly....,"

        Ha-Haaa.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    From wikipedia:

    Hominidae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Hominidae (anglicized Hominids, also known as great apes[notes 1]) form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: chimpanzees, gorillas, humans and orangutans.[1]
    Inter species don't generally, and I don't think interr family, ever produce offspring, and the offspring WOULD be different. So Men and women belong to the same family, etc...

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    One site CLAIMS that a woman's size can be converted to a man's waist size by adding 21. So size 8 means a man's size 29".

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  • Profile picture of the author BricknMortar
    Simple - it starts at "Hot" on one end of the rack and ends at "Not" on the other
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by BricknMortar View Post

      Simple - it starts at "Hot" on one end of the rack and ends at "Not" on the other
      Ha,ha...very cute in a male kind of way!

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      • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Ha,ha...very cute in a male kind of way!

        MissTerraK
        Terra, then you might like this one...

        Do you know how you can tell a male chromosome from a female chromosome?











        You pull down its' genes.

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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

          Terra, then you might like this one...

          Do you know how you can tell a male chromosome from a female chromosome?











          You pull down its' genes.

          KJ
          Thanks KJ!

          That was cute! Thanks for the smile! Perfect timing!

          I can always count on you for a smile, chuckle and even a belly roll laugh!:p

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    wow - someone removed my post that I said that women no longer have a gland in their heads that men still do...........Hey - I wasn't being sexist....it's the darned truth - at least according to psycho-linguistic professors at U of M. The gland accounts for the differences in speech when angry between males/females. 15 years ago I could have remembered the name of that darned thing. Crap, now I"m going to have to go look it up again.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    When my wife and I go shopping I always ask her as she tries them if they make her feel comfortable. That is the quickest way to have a successful shopping experience. And the jeans that feel comfortable for her also happen to make her butt look good, which I like. So it is win-win for the both of us (not a leg man!) I guess for me it comes down to knowing her size but also being observant as to her style likes and dislikes. I wouldn't dream of getting her hip huggers as that isn't her style, just as she knows not to get me tight fitting jeans as I prefer a more relaxed fit especially on my legs.

    As always, simple works best.
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